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http://colloquy.mobi] 18:00:22 ebw [~user@f051128100.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #sbcl 18:02:30 -!- Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:16:51 -!- akovalen` is now known as akovalenko 18:32:33 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:33:36 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:34:43 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.47.250.140] has joined #sbcl 18:34:43 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.47.250.140] has quit [Changing host] 18:34:43 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 18:40:45 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:40:54 -!- rpg [~rpg@23-25-144-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:41:30 An object finalizer may be called in any dynamic scope in any thread. So if I have a global variable, which the finalizer alters, I have to guarantee that my global variable is nevere rebound in a let or as a function argument. Or can't I simply write a finalizer, which alters a global variable? 18:41:51 ebw: you could use a global, rather than a special. 18:42:05 (sb-ext:defglobal) 18:43:10 Cool. 18:44:34 But if I guarantee that my (defvar *variable*) is never rebound it is ok too? 18:44:47 yes. 18:45:22 So I could do it even portable with trivial-garbage:finalize and a documented convention. 18:45:58 rpg [~rpg@23-25-144-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #sbcl 18:59:20 why does the sbcl source have lots of form-feed ^L chars? 19:00:09 jarmond: helps readers get a feel for the source's structure 19:00:54 rather than a commented line? 19:02:17 You get both. I've gotten used to the ^L, and I find they're better section markers than a comment that might get lost in the rest. 19:02:32 brown [user@nat/google/x-bgtkcxiyyeexxwuy] has joined #sbcl 19:02:35 emacs can't navigate through commented lines 19:02:52 good point. they do stand out in my current color theme. 19:02:57 -!- brown is now known as Guest70432 19:03:18 stassats:how do you navigate through ^L's? 19:03:22 also, when you print it on paper, it makes it go to a new piece of paper! 19:03:31 print on what? 19:04:02 maybe it's for the kindle version 19:04:15 jarmond: C-x ]/[ 19:04:35 stassats: oh very nice! 19:19:46 -!- yacks [~yacks@180.151.36.168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23:43 -!- dioxirane [~OXO@unaffiliated/dioxirane] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:57 -!- jarmond [~user@93-96-213-180.zone4.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:21:02 Qworkescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #sbcl 21:43:29 -!- rpg [~rpg@23-25-144-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: rpg] 21:51:34 Hydan [~hydan@ip-89-102-13-27.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #sbcl 22:26:25 sdemarre [~serge@50.93-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #sbcl 22:41:41 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:01:25 -!- sdemarre [~serge@50.93-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:03:30 -!- nyef [~nyef@c-76-119-183-159.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: G'night all.] 23:12:12 -!- Posterdati [~antani@host228-151-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:17:00 -!- psilord [~psilord@23-25-144-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:51:39 -!- ebw [~user@f051128100.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]