00:08:42 leoc` [~leoc.git@p5DDB8866.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #sbcl 00:08:56 -!- leoc [~leoc.git@p5DDB8866.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:02:59 -!- Posterdati [~antani@host201-213-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:15:49 Posterdati [~antani@host107-26-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #sbcl 01:19:18 LiamH [~none@96.231.218.61] has joined #sbcl 01:46:35 -!- Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@108-225-26-178.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:57:53 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@173-228-44-92.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:06:26 Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@71-84-34-33.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #sbcl 02:14:12 prxq_ [~mommer@mnhm-590c1fb7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #sbcl 02:15:15 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-4d011893.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:16:47 -!- Thra11 [~thrall@94.8.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:05:26 lichtblau: 0001-Adapt-cheneygc.c-to-type-changes-in-gc-internal.h.patch 05:05:37 http://random.christoph-egger.org/0001-Adapt-cheneygc.c-to-type-changes-in-gc-internal.h.patch 05:05:44 seems to work 05:25:02 -!- LiamH [~none@96.231.218.61] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:34:01 LiamH [~none@96.231.218.61] has joined #sbcl 05:35:02 -!- LiamH [~none@96.231.218.61] has quit [Client Quit] 06:41:07 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.47.253.199] has joined #sbcl 06:41:08 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.47.253.199] has quit [Changing host] 06:41:08 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 07:03:08 snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #sbcl 07:11:44 christoph_debian: thanks! 07:14:59 (merged, pushed) 07:36:43 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 07:38:30 Krystof: how would you feel about removing #+unix from win32 random seed (+ (get-internal-real-time) #!+unix (ash (sb!unix:unix-getpid) 32)) during the freeze? 07:39:19 getting the proper solution wouldn't fit during the freeze, so maybe this slight workaround would do 07:42:57 without this change, windows users will get 0 as a random seed at the beginning of run-time for another month 07:43:16 and potential for breaking things by remove #+unix is low 08:12:28 -!- ASau [~user@46.115.34.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:25:42 I can live with that. 08:27:23 Krystof: that being "removing #+unix"? 08:29:22 yes 08:29:47 ok, will commit once i get to test it on windows 08:43:48 tcr1 [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 08:49:40 -!- leoc` [~leoc.git@p5DDB8866.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:52:13 -!- Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@71-84-34-33.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:52:36 Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@71-84-34-33.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #sbcl 08:55:09 -!- flip214 [~marek@unaffiliated/flip214] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:59:53 flip214 [~marek@unaffiliated/flip214] has joined #sbcl 09:01:48 -!- easye` [~user@213.33.70.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:03:23 -!- prxq_ is now known as prxq 09:16:48 easye` [~user@213.33.70.157] has joined #sbcl 09:39:20 fwiw FreeBSD seems fine 10:48:32 Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 11:17:40 -!- tcr1 [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:20:53 tcr1 [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 11:50:57 edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-149-172-63-75.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #sbcl 12:18:17 -!- eataix [eataix@unaffiliated/eataix] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 12:35:44 -!- zulu_inuoe [~quassel@184.89.111.53] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09:23 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:31:37 is the idea to test sbcl head? For some reason, it gets this machine to swap a lot. 13:31:45 building it, i mean. 13:53:47 hrm 13:53:52 how much RAM do you have? 13:54:42 in the olden days, bright sparks used to change the memory management to make it more efficient (usually related to page zeroing) which would fail totally on machines with less RAM than sbcl's heap 13:54:50 I always used to whine about that 13:57:11 I don't think we've done exactly that again but it might be that there's something up, of course 14:02:49 i have 4gig 14:03:19 at the end of the build process it prints out a disassemble of a function called sbprof::consalot 14:03:19 that ought to be completely enough 14:03:32 I also have 4gig; let me see... 14:03:43 in fact, it prints a lot of stuff it doesn't usually print 14:03:53 i too have 4G, but no swap 14:04:04 haven't encountered any problems 14:10:32 what is this additional output? It comes from something being profiled 14:16:02 sb-sprof tests 14:18:43 -!- loke [~elias@bb115-66-85-121.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19:22 some sbcl tests tend to make my computer unusable too 14:20:04 my guess is that maybe sbcl uses futexes in some unexpected way that confuses the scheduler 14:20:08 or something similar 14:22:18 i see a huge spike in xload at the end of the building process. 14:22:55 sb-sprof is the last contrib to be built 14:36:25 LiamH [~none@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has joined #sbcl 14:46:44 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-177-175.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 14:49:48 attila_lendvai1 [~attila_le@92.46.10.160] has joined #sbcl 14:49:48 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:50:02 -!- attila_lendvai1 is now known as attile_lendvai 15:04:31 i don't know what happens. I thought it was swapping but it doesn't seem to do that. It just sends the load through the roof. As the machine still works I'd say it doesn't matter 15:04:39 sb-sprof tests are newish 15:04:42 (dec 5) 15:06:43 way to reproduce: run xload and build 15:20:49 I'd assume it also does the same thing to (require 'sb-sprof) (sb-sprof::consing-test) 15:21:50 stassats: one could also add get-universal-time. 15:22:21 pkhuong: many things can be added, but i'll add CryptGetRandom to windows after the freeze 15:22:29 or just increment a counter. 15:23:55 also (sb-ext:get-bytes-consed), although it'll be the same at start-up 15:24:30 and thread id, not just process id 15:54:39 leoc [~leoc.git@p5DDB8FC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #sbcl 15:56:50 -!- Posterdati [~antani@host107-26-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:01:09 Posterdati [~antani@host107-26-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #sbcl 16:07:16 Thra11 [~thrall@94.8.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #sbcl 16:17:55 -!- Thra11 [~thrall@94.8.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:23:35 Thra11 [~thrall@94.8.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #sbcl 16:32:33 -!- leoc [~leoc.git@p5DDB8FC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:37:38 -!- attile_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.10.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:40:43 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c1fb7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:40:50 -!- Thra11 [~thrall@94.8.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52:17 Thra11 [~thrall@94.8.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #sbcl 17:07:28 leoc [~leoc.git@p5DDB9F5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #sbcl 17:13:11 -!- leoc [~leoc.git@p5DDB9F5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:18:49 -!- Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@71-84-34-33.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:29:07 hydan [90a0e235@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.160.226.53] has joined #sbcl 17:35:53 Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@71-84-34-33.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #sbcl 17:57:51 ASau [~user@46.115.66.208] has joined #sbcl 18:11:17 -!- hydan [90a0e235@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.160.226.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:22:25 nikodemus` [~nikodemus@cs27127210.pp.htv.fi] has joined #sbcl 18:22:25 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o nikodemus` 18:23:40 sdemarre [~serge@91.180.66.31] has joined #sbcl 18:45:32 prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c1fb7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #sbcl 19:27:18 leuler [~user@p548FA88D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #sbcl 19:52:24 Fare [fare@nat/google/x-bkuadbibqlrzhyis] has joined #sbcl 20:04:52 -!- kanru` [~kanru@118-163-10-190.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:08:52 -!- Thra11 [~thrall@94.8.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: kthxbai] 20:16:15 hydan [~udzinari@ip-89-102-13-27.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #sbcl 20:17:02 -!- nikodemus` [~nikodemus@cs27127210.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:17:22 -!- Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@71-84-34-33.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:19:58 Thra11 [~thrall@94.8.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #sbcl 20:22:48 -!- edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-149-172-63-75.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: mental blackout] 20:29:56 nikodemus` [~nikodemus@cs27127210.pp.htv.fi] has joined #sbcl 20:29:56 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o nikodemus` 20:39:17 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:48:33 Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@108-225-26-178.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #sbcl 20:52:00 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.66.31] has left #sbcl 20:54:06 Qworkescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #sbcl 20:54:51 slyrus [~chatzilla@173-228-44-92.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #sbcl 21:04:25 -!- snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:13:51 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@173-228-44-92.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:24:21 -!- nikodemus` [~nikodemus@cs27127210.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:30:46 -!- leuler [~user@p548FA88D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.1.2 $Revision: 1.796.2.6 $ (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:29:29 Has SBCL started using threads on all platforms? 22:30:10 no 22:30:36 Then it looks like it started dlopen'ing libpthread. 22:30:54 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c1fb7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31:06 I'm checking 1.1.3 again. 22:32:00 linking to libpthread is not the same thing as supporting lisp threads 22:32:04 is that on netbsd ? 22:32:17 Yes. 22:35:50 -!- brown` [user@nat/google/x-hzggktisvondoaxm] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:07 brown` [user@nat/google/x-ycdiawtomyfuztxf] has joined #sbcl 22:46:49 -!- Qworkescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:47:36 Qworkescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #sbcl 22:50:47 -!- Thra11 [~thrall@94.8.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: kthxbai] 22:58:03 Thra11 [~thrall@94.8.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #sbcl 22:58:36 slyrus [~chatzilla@172.1.59.137] has joined #sbcl 23:15:49 Right. 23:16:05 * /tmp/lang/sbcl/work/sbcl-1.1.3/src/runtime/sbcl --noinform --core /tmp/lang/sbcl/work/sbcl-1.1.3/output/sbcl.core --lose-on-corruption --disable-debugger --no-sysinit --no-userinit --eval '(load (format nil "SYS:CONTRIB;~:@(~A~);TEST.LISP" "sb-sprof"))' STYLE-WARNING: Undefined alien: "pthread_kill" 23:16:12 Thus, the build doesn't finish. 23:17:19 Any idea why it is trying to use pthread here? 23:19:37 ASau` [~user@46.115.88.171] has joined #sbcl 23:21:35 Hrm. 23:21:38 Where did I stop? 23:23:25 -!- LiamH [~none@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:23:51 -!- ASau [~user@46.115.66.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:25:03 -!- ASau` is now known as ASau 23:27:51 on "Any idea why it is trying to use pthread here?" 23:27:58 ASau: fixed in SBCL 1.1.4 23:28:14 ITYM HEAD. 23:29:08 any particular reason that you're building without threads? 23:29:26 Inertia? 23:29:30 How do I turn them on? 23:30:09 oh, NetBSD. No idea about that. Sorry. 23:30:52 Have you got threads working on FreeBSD or Solaris? 23:32:29 on freebsd they work rather well 23:32:54 last time I tried, at least 23:33:21 Then I'll see about adding them. 23:33:53 Not right now, of course :) 23:34:38 tomorrow, then ? 23:34:48 No, not this week. 23:34:56 :D 23:35:15 It is all planned. 23:44:01 worked on solaris/x86 last I checked. 23:52:18 LiamH [~none@96.231.218.61] has joined #sbcl