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[~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:56:02 pkhuong: please remind me again what the plan for your `threaded test robustness' patches was...: Are you planning on pushing them this month, or shall I? 09:58:30 Hmm, no nikodemus. It seems a little bold for test ATOMIC-UPDATE to create 1000 threads in a row, expecting that to work -- in a pure test no less. 09:58:34 But how far can I decrease that parameter without ruining what the test is trying to accomplish? 09:59:01 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 10:03:35 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:07:36 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 10:15:05 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:18:51 lichtblau: go ahead. 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"X is always false" 18:13:45 just make your build pedantic and fail on warnings. 18:15:16 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 18:21:31 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:25:57 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 18:33:11 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:36:35 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 18:40:48 rpg [~rpg@23-25-144-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #sbcl 18:43:03 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:45:18 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 18:46:21 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-132-113.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 18:47:31 why, oh why, would gettimeofday return a tv_sec of 0 every now and then? 18:47:48 *lichtblau* finds it suspicious that there's a #!+darwin special case there already 18:51:32 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:55:59 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 18:59:06 antgreen [user@nat/redhat/x-weoklszpvfmpqbyh] has joined #sbcl 19:02:24 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:06:14 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 19:13:13 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:17:47 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 19:18:58 -!- jsnell [~jsnell@ash.snellman.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:19:36 jsnell [~jsnell@ash.snellman.net] has joined #sbcl 19:24:35 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:28:30 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 19:35:53 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:39:33 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 19:44:55 slyrus_ [~chatzilla@173-228-44-92.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #sbcl 19:48:25 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:57:05 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 20:04:36 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:08:14 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 20:15:37 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:19:24 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 20:23:50 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:28:25 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 20:34:00 -!- les [moreorles@fsf/member/les] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:35:17 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:35:29 les [~les@lesharris.com] has joined #sbcl 20:35:29 -!- les [~les@lesharris.com] has quit [Changing host] 20:35:29 les [~les@fsf/member/les] has joined #sbcl 20:37:25 -!- SHUPFS [~user@S0106001111de1fc8.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:39:45 SHUPFS [~user@S0106001111de1fc8.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 20:40:40 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 20:40:59 -!- les [~les@fsf/member/les] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:44:50 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:51:43 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 20:56:14 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:00:27 les [moreorles@lesharris.com] has joined #sbcl 21:00:27 -!- les [moreorles@lesharris.com] has quit [Changing host] 21:00:27 les [moreorles@fsf/member/les] has joined #sbcl 21:02:18 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 21:05:01 -!- les [moreorles@fsf/member/les] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:09:48 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:12:00 les [moreorles@fsf/member/les] has joined #sbcl 21:14:45 Why does REDUCE cons so much? Is that necessary? 21:14:54 -!- antgreen [user@nat/redhat/x-weoklszpvfmpqbyh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:00 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 21:22:17 probably not. what are you calling it on? 21:22:24 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:24:13 froydnj, some simple micro benchmarks: (reduce #'+ ) 21:25:02 Unless + is consing I guess, but an equivalent loop isn't consing. 21:26:32 does (reduce #'(lambda (x y) (+ x y)) ) cons? 21:26:36 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 21:27:05 'cause #'+ is probably consing 21:27:11 froydnj, no it is not. 21:27:18 Why would #'+ be consing then? 21:27:38 argument parsing or something? 21:28:07 because in the lambda case, the + gets compiled to call GENERIC-+, since the call obviously has two args 21:28:20 yes 21:28:59 in the bare #'+ case, you're forced to call the actual function, which needs to do &rest consing 21:29:15 I don't think the &rest list there has been made properly dx 21:30:38 I wonder if an eta reduction: #'f --> (lambda (x y) (f x y)) is always valid in a REDUCE, and furthermore, if that's easily programmed in SBCL 21:31:24 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:31:31 or probably (funcall #'f x y) instead of (f x y) 21:33:05 (and I should probably say eta-conversion, not reduction) 21:43:44 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 21:48:40 froydnj, thanks for the insight 21:51:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:54:48 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 21:59:11 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:00:00 OS X Mountain Lion tests failing: BACKTRACE-INTERRUPTED-CONDITION-WAIT 22:00:10 don't have time to get more detailed about it, gotta go eat 22:05:25 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 22:09:56 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:16:08 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 22:18:22 -!- rpg [~rpg@23-25-144-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: rpg] 22:20:23 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:29:45 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 22:36:04 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:40:08 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 22:41:09 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@69.84.244.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:44:37 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:54:29 -!- redline6561 [~redline65@li69-162.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 22:56:17 redline6561 [~redline65@li69-162.members.linode.com] has joined #sbcl 22:57:24 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 23:02:12 -!- slyrus_ [~chatzilla@173-228-44-92.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:03:58 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:07:55 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 23:09:49 slyrus_ [~chatzilla@173-228-44-92.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #sbcl 23:10:07 -!- LiamH [~none@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:15:37 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:18:14 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 23:25:41 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:28:33 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 23:31:11 -!- milanj [~milanj_@109-93-103-71.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:35:01 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:45:04 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 23:48:30 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-5f75c60d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:52:37 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:53:27 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-132-113.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:53:54 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-132-113.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:55:59 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl