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Hrm. 15:12:12 antgreen [~user@CPE00222d6c4710-CM00222d6c470d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #sbcl 15:32:43 pdlogan [~patrick@174-25-37-137.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 15:43:08 -!- tcr1 [~tcr@155-dom-3.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:03:46 frito [~user@cpc2-sotn4-0-0-cust13.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #sbcl 16:12:42 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@94.44.3.22] has joined #sbcl 16:12:42 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@94.44.3.22] has quit [Changing host] 16:12:42 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 16:16:08 -!- frito [~user@cpc2-sotn4-0-0-cust13.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31:52 tcr1 [~tcr@155-dom-3.acn.waw.pl] has joined #sbcl 16:39:57 frito [~user@cpc2-sotn4-0-0-cust13.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #sbcl 16:41:38 -!- frito [~user@cpc2-sotn4-0-0-cust13.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:42:02 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:45:11 Hexstream [~hexstream@modemcable075.97-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #sbcl 16:47:16 Congratulations on the move to git! I can't think of better news for SBCL! And I think it should be featured on sbcl.org or something... Anyway, are there plans to move to github as well? That would be a logical next step and would make it even easier to contribute I'd think. 16:50:21 the repo is on github somewhere. 16:50:33 Hexstream: is it possible to make github mirror the sf one? 16:51:06 it is possible 16:51:08 (e.g., can sf's commit hook push to github?) 16:51:21 i think github can do a pull mirror, can't it? 16:51:30 I guess I just don't see the value of SourceForge over Github. 16:51:48 everyone else uses github, isn't that reason enough? :) 16:51:57 foom: I haven't found a way to do that. 16:52:18 http://support.github.com/discussions/repos/3760-make-github-pullmirror-an-external-git-repo-through-rest-call 16:54:06 Ah, you have to request it manually. I see. 16:55:51 -!- foom [~jknight@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:56:34 -!- misterncw [~misterncw@82.71.241.25] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:19 oh yay. 17:02:39 I'll set up a mirror in the github.com/sbcl group if that's ok 17:04:13 foom [~jknight@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #sbcl 17:06:04 ok, seems like gh staff need to set this up 17:07:31 I created a Launchpad issue for an hypothetic move to github... https://bugs.launchpad.net/sbcl/+bug/794664 17:08:30 Hexstream: we've been through this before. some committers don't want to use github 17:08:34 so no. 17:08:46 not yet, at least 17:09:11 I want names!! Or more importantly, reasons. 17:11:21 Hexstream: sourceforge gives us shell access to the repo 17:11:58 people can make as many github mirrors as they like -- even i have one -- so it's also nice to have something that is distinct from them as the official upstream 17:12:13 that's enough reasons for me right now 17:14:41 we've spent enough manpower and mailing-list-bytes on the issue this year. 17:14:58 that too 17:15:17 Being linked from sbcl.org as the official git repo seems like enough of a distinguishing mark to me, as well as quickly dwarfing the other github sbcl repos in terms of watchers, forks, commits, and general activity... 17:15:20 just in case my comment was unclear, I meant " everyone else uses github, isn't that reason enough not to use it?" :) 17:16:28 if there is an actual live contributor whose workflow is impeded by not having sbcl on github, they should speak up 17:16:30 foom: Thanks, now I know that it's a ridiculous argument and isn't just a misunderstanding on my part. 17:16:51 -!- Krystof [~csr21@217-162-207-189.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:17:00 nikodemus: Do future actual live contributors count? 17:17:11 Hexstream: no 17:17:19 sadly, no 17:17:28 and even then you would get to explain how you're impeded 17:17:31 something that's measurable now would help 17:17:48 I just mailed diffs until I learned cvs. 17:17:55 I truly believe github is nicer about allowing people to start contributing. but it's not going to happen. 17:18:35 (after all, people contributing and getting hooked is how they make money. how sf.net makes money is still a mystery to me (-:) 17:18:51 antifuchs: a github mirror would definitely be nice -- and then we could make "fork sbcl on github" the preferred patch submission format 17:18:59 yes indeed 17:19:00 pkhuong: And did you walk to school uphill both ways? If so, does everyone have to walk that same path? 17:19:16 I think I'll write to their support so we can have github.com/sbcl/sbcl.git 17:19:59 eatime. 17:20:00 (well, we can have it already, but not as an automatic mirror) 17:20:43 Hexstream: no. I just don't care enough about this issue to spend even more time on it for a couple months. 17:23:19 github is great at lowering barriers, yes. that's fine. i still don't seriously believe we're missing out any significant contributors because there isn't a "fork this" button on the website 17:24:10 i really don't see what significant workflow improvement github would offer beyond making it /even more trivial/ to set up your own public clone -- because it's not like it's hard right now 17:25:28 well, they take care of the hosting portion, which still is a bit hard to figure out if you don't have a machine somewhere 17:25:36 gor[e] [~svr@gw2.masterhost.ru] has joined #sbcl 17:30:33 -!- foom [~jknight@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:31:24 antifuchs: sure, but you can have your own repo on github already 17:31:31 yes, no doubt. 17:31:32 anyway. 17:31:57 hence my claim that it's trivial already *shrug* 17:32:20 I agree that sbcl as a project probably won't suffer if committers' destination when pushing is sf.net instead of github 17:32:42 but I think it's a good thing to have a sort of canonical repository on gh as well 17:33:01 (which we also seem to agree on) 17:34:44 aye 17:35:06 so yay (: 17:35:12 \o/ 17:42:20 -!- rpg [~rpg@216.243.156.16.real-time.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:48:12 tcr2 [~tcr@155-dom-3.acn.waw.pl] has joined #sbcl 17:48:12 -!- tcr1 [~tcr@155-dom-3.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:13 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181058025.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:10:38 -!- Hexstream [~hexstream@modemcable075.97-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #sbcl 18:22:29 -!- tcr2 [~tcr@155-dom-3.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12:53 nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181063174.pp.htv.fi] has joined #sbcl 19:12:53 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o nikodemus 19:33:56 -!- minion [~minion@tiger.common-lisp.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:33:56 -!- specbot [~specbot@tiger.common-lisp.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:33:56 -!- lisppaste2 [~lisppaste@tiger.common-lisp.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38:41 yay. 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