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http://sourceforge.net/projects/sbcl/files/sbcl/1.0.46/ 14:41:46 there are no binaries for windows there 14:42:07 then this means that you have to build it yourself 14:42:28 on windows =( ?? 14:42:47 if that's what you use, yes 14:45:06 ok 14:45:06 thx 14:45:10 -!- phao [phao@189.40.82.229] has quit [Quit: Fui embora] 14:59:26 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 15:12:27 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181058025.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:32:32 -!- flip214 [~marek@unaffiliated/flip214] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:19 hopefully all of the darwin x86-64 and x86 users are verifying that the mach ports cleanup changes didn't actually break anything... 15:45:56 -!- woudshoo` [~user@ipleiden.intellimagic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:46:33 woudshoo` [~user@ipleiden.intellimagic.net] has joined #sbcl 15:48:02 tsuru [~charlie@adsl-87-47-213.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #sbcl 15:55:20 -!- 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[~mommer@mnhm-4d010646.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:02:12 has anyone seen very slow compilation times on sbcl/os x? 22:02:14 sprof says 22:02:17 > 1 40326 53.0 40326 53.0 40326 53.0 - "foreign function lstat$INODE64" 22:02:35 i.e. 53% of the time in the compilation run is inside lstat() 22:03:36 is that bootstrapping time? 22:03:51 it takes a few minutes to bootstrap for me, but nothing worryingly slow. 22:04:02 (but I'm on an SSD. what kind of a drive is that?) 22:04:15 redline6561 [~user@cpe-76-184-243-16.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #sbcl 22:04:37 no, it's building-mcclim-time (except that I think the user aborted before mcclim built) 22:06:57 ah 22:07:06 hm, best make sure that asdf isn't doing something stupid 22:07:23 which, funnily enough, is what I'm doing right now also (: 22:07:35 (except on allegro/windows, not on sbcl/os x) 22:07:35 http://paste.lisp.org/display/120333 22:07:42 -!- dlowe [~dlowe@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:08:13 I would assume that OS X's stat is slow. but getting called 40k times is a bit excessive 22:08:21 a surprising amount of time in mach_msg_server as well 22:08:49 yeah. This is sbcl started from the terminal 22:08:59 -!- mega1 [~user@catv4E5C915D.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:09:45 that's not being called 40k times, it's 40k hits from the sigprof firing at 10ms 22:10:29 oh 22:11:55 but that is 400 seconds accounted to lstat 22:12:21 is that on a network volume, maybe? 22:12:24 or a slow spinning drive? 22:12:36 doubt it, though I have asked the user to look for suspicious timestamps 22:12:38 I can imagine that happening for a bunch of hardware reasons too 22:12:56 I see slow lstat-ing on my spinning drive that parks way too often, too 22:14:39 OS X likes to slow down to a crawl when a disk is about to die. 22:15:10 that would be a good explanation, too 22:17:00 *silently* slow down, that is. 22:17:33 yeah, tons of random writes everywhere 22:30:40 why would a dying disk cause random writes? 22:31:11 luis: it wouldn't. but the random writes that happen regularly will be slower on a dying disk 22:33:11 and louder :) 22:33:36 tcr [~tcr@217-162-131-235.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 22:33:38 sometimes, yeah 22:34:14 hdds will sometimes transparently write to other sectors. it's annoyingly complicated (and SMARTReporter is invaluable) 22:45:42 is there a way to trace a labels in sbcl these days? 22:46:10 I know there was talk about that and maybe cmucl does it (?) but I think it's still not possible in sbcl? 23:22:04 foom: on linux, yes. :encapsulate nil will insert a breakpoint instruction. 23:22:46 I don't know which other platforms it works on. 23:23:24 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@173-228-44-88.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:35:52 -!- antifuchs is now known as spacefox 23:37:07 -!- spacefox is now known as antifuchs 23:52:57 hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-128-236.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl