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of vc 18:21:15 "To disable VC entirely, set the customizable variable vc-handled-backends to nil" 18:22:10 cmm: ah, saving files is no longer awful. thanks! 18:22:17 then again, VC is sort of addictive 18:22:42 eh, not really 18:23:29 well, we use CVS at work, I guess your mileage may be less constant :) 18:24:37 :) certainly possible. whatever the vc-git backend does makes saving files intolerable 18:24:51 yuck. use magit 18:24:55 magit 18:24:56 <3 magit 18:25:01 indeed 18:25:40 magit doesn't need VC, I gather? 18:25:40 I do use magit! but vc was insinuating itself 18:26:20 and I couldn't figure out how to make edebug tell me *where* vc was being called from 18:26:58 probably from C code 18:27:34 eeevil 18:28:41 "saving files awful" in what way? 18:29:00 slow? 18:29:17 unrelated: try git-wip, it's really pretty neat. 18:30:11 yeah, saving files consistently caused a little busy cursor 18:30:26 -!- woudshoo [~user@ironhead.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:30:30 for a second or two 18:31:32 antifuchs: what is that ? 18:31:40 weird; I'm using vc-mode with emacs23 in a giant repo, and don't see that 18:31:53 it is a little helper that automatically commits to a hidden branch when you save a file 18:31:55 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@adsl-99-49-13-243.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:31:56 it does however take a few seconds of busywait to open a git-controlled file for the first time 18:32:04 fe[nl]ix: very, very useful if you want to go back in time (: 18:32:31 also, for "this used to work an hour ago" headscratchery 18:32:50 I just type git commit -a -m "WIP: whatever" every few hours. :) 18:33:01 foom: see, I automated that process (: 18:33:07 (also, it doesn't clutter the current branch) 18:34:27 I like the clutter because I'm working on like 5 closely related things, and I commit the works-in-progress separately with a different name after WIP, then rebase coalesce all the related things together every week or so. 18:34:55 yeah, automated WIPing is usually better if you work on topic branches 18:41:30 foom: huh, odd. define "giant"? maybe it's my disks or something...quad-core 8GB of RAM ought to be able to handle a couple of git processes forking off... 18:41:31 -!- Krystof [~csr21@csrhodes.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:41:50 froydnj: 800MB repo. 18:42:44 it's not the du -sh, it's the tree depth/number of files/filesystem perfomance nuances that matter 18:42:53 Opening the first file with a cold cache takes a significant amount of time (i guess to get the revision or whatever emacs is doing...not really sure what) 18:43:01 After that opening/saving is fast 18:44:11 it may be doing a "git status" (: 18:44:11 well, it's mostly textual code. Lots of history, and lots of files. :) 18:44:19 ... to read branch info and stuff 18:47:48 foom: that's about how big my repo is 18:49:02 to impressionable bystanders: those guys are talking about qpx and gcc, respectively! 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