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(bug "Really got here")) 15:23:34 hah! 15:27:46 so we have slow-methods, but they don't have named-lambdas 15:29:25 nikodemus: I remember having a hard time getting slow methods into the backtrace when I was working on the backtrace cleanup patch... so I just stared at the cleanup code double as much and hoped it works as expected. 15:34:13 no wonder... 15:35:35 i did remember having seen them in backtraces, though -- but i think we _can_get them during pcl bootstrap, which explains that 15:57:45 -!- redline6561 [~redline@gate-30.spsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:10:46 rpg [~rpg@216.243.156.16.real-time.com] has joined #sbcl 16:35:01 redline6561 [~redline@c-66-56-55-169.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 17:43:29 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@dhcp-174.mirrorimage.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:56:09 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181058025.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:57:01 hargettp [~hargettp@dhcp-162.mirrorimage.net] has joined #sbcl 18:00:06 jeti [~user@p54B47544.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #sbcl 18:14:44 nyef: re *break-on-signals*: fair enough. although I consider that as a workaround... 18:30:18 -!- tsuru [~user@c-68-53-57-241.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 18:30:25 tsuru` [~charlie@adsl-87-46-139.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #sbcl 18:39:41 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:43:15 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@catv-89-132-188-47.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:21:53 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 19:36:20 -!- cmm [~cmm@bzq-79-182-202-208.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:37:14 cmm [~cmm@bzq-79-182-202-208.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #sbcl 20:49:01 kclifton [~kclifton@s198-166-45-245.ab.hsia.telus.net] has joined #sbcl 21:06:53 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:41:33 -!- kclifton [~kclifton@s198-166-45-245.ab.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: kclifton] 21:43:10 minion [~minion@common-lisp.net] has joined #sbcl 22:06:17 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@dhcp-162.mirrorimage.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51:45 hargettp [~anonymous@pool-71-174-141-119.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 23:00:16 -!- tcr [~tcr@cpc5-bour5-2-0-cust340.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:40:45 -!- homie [~user@xdsl-78-34-109-36.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:42:10 homie [~user@xdsl-78-34-109-36.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 23:47:28 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@adsl-75-55-215-234.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has left #sbcl 23:50:29 slyrus [~chatzilla@adsl-75-55-215-234.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #sbcl