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``Erik pchrist araujo incandenza Krystof timjstewart Modius rien joast katesmith ntd`` peterhil felipe cnl Hun peddie myu2 rsynnott qebab chr` Posterdati ec|detached BrianRice pok jamief kanru lonstein oconnore cataska luis Nshag cods eli algorist_ a7p derrotebaron erk galdor j_king pkhuong zfx yahooooo adeht akkartik phadthai simontwo_ ejohnson johs thijso specbot mal__ Jabberwockey CallToPower bfein krappie__ hohum mornfall minion rabite 04:13:08 -!- names: mdavadriansmith herbie_ euphidime lisppaste albino ramus ineiros yan_ kencausey nome` fmu krl ecraven cmbntr housel p_l|backup tychoish huehnts delYsid setheus ozzloy acieroid nuba PissedNumlock strlen rvncerr foom rbancroft Yamazaki-kun process reb tic_ guther tomaw clog df_aldur shachaf ve dostoyevsky antifuchs cibs rotty 04:13:28 Quadrescence, got it. Now how exactly does this whole managerial thing work? 04:14:03 sigjuice [~sigjuice@c-71-198-22-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 04:14:18 -!- skeptical_p [~rononovsk@bzq-79-180-185-4.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 259 seconds] 04:14:20 *Quadrescence* tag-teams beach while I find juice. 04:14:26 jweiss [~user@nat/redhat/x-ljnjhzljgxbexull] has joined #lisp 04:14:26 nefo [~nefo@unaffiliated/nefo] has joined #lisp 04:14:26 froggey_ [~froggey@unaffiliated/froggey] has joined #lisp 04:14:26 acelent` [~user@2001:690:2100:4:200:1aff:fe19:ddfc] has joined #lisp 04:14:26 Legooola1 [~Legooolas@2001:838:320::1] has joined #lisp 04:14:26 fe[nl]ix [~lacedaemo@pdpc/supporter/professional/fenlix] has joined #lisp 04:14:26 Adrinael [~adrinael@barrel.rolli.org] has joined #lisp 04:14:26 christop` [~user@oteiza.siccegge.de] has joined #lisp 04:14:26 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #lisp 04:14:49 Quadrescence, I'd give you some of mine. Thanks for so much information! 04:14:55 arbscht [~arbscht@unaffiliated/arbscht] has joined #lisp 04:15:09 AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@unaffiliated/afterdeath/bot/antispambot] has joined #lisp 04:15:38 m1ndvirus: Low-level code signals a condition. The stack is searched for a handler, but is not unwound. Low-level code establishes restarts that correspond to predefined actions (create the file, ignore, ...). The handler in high-level code decides what restart to use and invokes it. Low level code continues as instructed. 04:16:00 m1ndvirus: or high-level code can explicitly unwind the stack by using a non-local transfer of control. 04:16:20 borism [~boris@ec2-46-137-99-139.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #lisp 04:17:29 djinni` [~djinni`@li125-242.members.linode.com] has joined #lisp 04:17:50 m1ndvirus: In languages that don't do that, high-level code must create the file and then try to re-create the stack between it and the low-level code, because that stack was unwound by the exception mechanism. 04:18:11 -!- dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.69.75] has quit [Quit: dnolen]