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2017-06-10T00:59:52Z jack_rabbit: Trying stumpwm. Any advice?
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2017-06-10T01:04:32Z Bike: hooking up slime can make problem fixing easier
2017-06-10T01:04:36Z Bike: and there's a channel
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2017-06-10T01:07:07Z jack_rabbit: Hooked up slime, and am now lurking in ##stumpwm.
2017-06-10T01:07:12Z jack_rabbit: Thanks
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2017-06-10T02:35:17Z drmeister: Is there a way to loop over the (key . value) pairs of an alist with LOOP?
2017-06-10T02:36:08Z drmeister: Got it
2017-06-10T02:36:08Z drmeister: (loop for (k . v) in '( (a . 1) (b . 2)) collect k)
2017-06-10T02:37:10Z drmeister: Am I allowed to pop entries from a list that I'm looping over in LOOP?
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2017-06-10T02:38:49Z Bike: clhs 3.6
2017-06-10T02:38:50Z specbot: Traversal Rules and Side Effects: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/03_f.htm
2017-06-10T02:38:58Z Bike: which i guess would mean yes, but that's nasty
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2017-06-10T02:44:33Z drmeister: Ok.
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2017-06-10T02:57:49Z drmeister: Bike - this traitlet thing is working very nicely!
2017-06-10T03:01:08Z Bike: glad to hear it.go mop
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2017-06-10T04:36:30Z learning_: lisp is cool. i wanted to see what it would be like to have a variable that represents the last form evaluated. i really don't know what im doing in lisp, but i was able to make a macro on my own that is 5 lines long and lets me play around with my idea. i dont think i could do this in any other language.
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2017-06-10T04:39:53Z beach: Good morning everyone!
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2017-06-10T08:19:24Z flavio81: good morning gentlemen
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2017-06-10T08:20:19Z flavio81: How are you gentlemen !!
2017-06-10T08:20:29Z beach: Hello flavio81.
2017-06-10T08:20:36Z flavio81: All your base are belong to us.
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2017-06-10T08:20:41Z flavio81: sorry, just joking
2017-06-10T08:20:43Z flavio81: bonjour Beach
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2017-06-10T08:21:09Z flavio81: if i was in france i could go and see one of my most favorite groups, Magma
2017-06-10T08:21:25Z beach: Are they still active?
2017-06-10T08:21:32Z flavio81: definitely !
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2017-06-10T08:22:12Z flavio81: hi p9s
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2017-06-10T13:45:16Z drmeister: Is this a reasonable type for a slot in a class definition.   Don't worry about the :metadata keyword - that's handled by something else.
2017-06-10T13:45:20Z drmeister: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tqsA5Q6A/
2017-06-10T13:47:14Z Bike: doesn't the loop return nil
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2017-06-10T13:51:09Z drmeister: Right!
2017-06-10T13:51:14Z drmeister: Thank you
2017-06-10T13:51:37Z drmeister: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5ZFLj0cz/
2017-06-10T13:51:49Z drmeister: I'm mimicking this...
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2017-06-10T13:52:07Z drmeister: https://github.com/drmeister/spy-ipykernel/blob/master/ipywidgets/widgets/domwidget.py#L84
2017-06-10T13:52:46Z drmeister: I'm a bit mystified by this:    https://github.com/drmeister/spy-ipykernel/blob/master/ipywidgets/widgets/domwidget.py#L21
2017-06-10T13:52:55Z drmeister: The **widget_serialization part
2017-06-10T13:53:29Z Bike: means it uses the dictionary in that variable. which is imported from widget, i guess.
2017-06-10T13:53:47Z Bike: https://github.com/drmeister/widget-dev/blob/master/ipywidgets/widgets/widget.py#L43
2017-06-10T13:54:25Z drmeister: Ah - thank you very much
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2017-06-10T14:03:16Z anon_: is there a way in common lisp to get a list of all subclasses of a given superclass?
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2017-06-10T14:08:42Z Bike: class-direct-subclasses in the mop
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2017-06-10T14:18:01Z mejja: Re CL in Scheme: https://github.com/tinysun212/bbn_cl
2017-06-10T14:19:19Z mejja: Re Scheme in CL: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/lang/scheme/impl/scheme88/
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2017-06-10T14:25:02Z DBeepBeep: Is there any easy way to destruct a list and pass its elements to a function?
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2017-06-10T14:26:11Z jackdaniel: DBeepBeep: (apply 'function my-list) if I understand your intention correctly (destructuring is something different, achieved with destructuring-bind)
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2017-06-10T14:27:13Z DBeepBeep: I've got a list representing an rgb value. I want to expand it such that each individual value is being passed to a fill-rect function.
2017-06-10T14:27:37Z DBeepBeep: I could make a wrapper function or just assign everything with a let
2017-06-10T14:27:48Z DBeepBeep: but I was wondering if there are any built-in options
2017-06-10T14:28:05Z jackdaniel: DBeepBeep: read once again what I wrote
2017-06-10T14:28:31Z jackdaniel: given you have list (1 2 3) and function bar, (apply 'bar '(1 2 3)) will be equivalent to (bar 1 2 3)
2017-06-10T14:29:09Z jackdaniel: of course instead of quoted list you may put there a variable having the list
2017-06-10T14:29:28Z DBeepBeep: Yep that will work
2017-06-10T14:29:35Z DBeepBeep: Thanks
2017-06-10T14:29:40Z jackdaniel: sure
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2017-06-10T16:51:52Z shka_: anybody here working for keepit.com?
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2017-06-10T16:58:24Z madrik: Greetings.
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2017-06-10T17:14:04Z deba5e12: does anyone know if there already exists a cffi interface to capstone? i feel like i've seen it somewhere, but can't seem to dig it up on google. it's easy enough to roll my own, but figured i'd check.
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2017-06-10T17:24:09Z AndreasO: Having problems with this line: (read-from-string (run-program "nproc" '() :output :stream))
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2017-06-10T17:55:19Z beach: AndreasO: What happened, and what did you expect would happen?
2017-06-10T17:56:20Z AndreasO: beach: get a number?
2017-06-10T17:56:33Z beach: Did you read the manual for run-program?
2017-06-10T17:56:51Z beach: It says "run-program will return a process structure."
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2017-06-10T17:57:33Z beach: I have never used run-program.  I am just reading the manual.
2017-06-10T17:57:38Z jackdaniel: AndreasO: (with-output-to-string (s) (sb-ext:run-program "/usr/bin/nproc" () :output s)) ; if it's sbcl run-program
2017-06-10T17:57:54Z jackdaniel: run-program from which implementation?
2017-06-10T17:58:03Z beach: Or just (read (process-output (run-program ...)))
2017-06-10T17:58:26Z beach: Or just (read (process-output (run-program "nproc" '() :output :stream)))
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2017-06-10T17:59:09Z beach: AndreasO: http://www.sbcl.org/manual/ section 7.7.3
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2017-06-10T18:16:26Z puchacz: hi, what CSS parser should I use?
2017-06-10T18:16:45Z puchacz: string->parse tree->modify something->serialise back to string
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2017-06-10T18:18:40Z shka_: puchacz: what you are working at? :-)
2017-06-10T18:20:38Z jackdaniel: puchacz: css-lite handles the second part s-exp -> string, but I'm not aware of any css parser
2017-06-10T18:20:47Z puchacz: I got templates for anki (learning system) from users I need to parse
2017-06-10T18:21:03Z puchacz: thanks, I will be back in few minutes :)
2017-06-10T18:21:37Z puchacz: jackdaniel: yeah, for what I want to do the first part is cruicial :)
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2017-06-10T18:23:52Z jackdaniel: puchacz: if you are ready for some digging, you may butcher closure web browser which has css parser: https://common-lisp.net/project/closure/
2017-06-10T18:24:16Z AndreasO: jack-daniel:uiop in ccl now but i dont get the right output
2017-06-10T18:24:43Z AndreasO: jack-daniel: (read-from-string (uiop:run-program "/usr/bin/nproc" :output :string))
2017-06-10T18:25:05Z jackdaniel: my nick is jackdaniel , not jack-daniel ,)
2017-06-10T18:25:21Z AndreasO: jackdaniel: oops
2017-06-10T18:25:45Z jackdaniel: AndreasO: (read-from-string (with-output-to-string (s) (uiop:run-program "nproc" :output s)))
2017-06-10T18:26:20Z jackdaniel: or even better: (read-from-string (uiop:run-program "nproc" :output :string))
2017-06-10T18:27:22Z puchacz: jackdaniel: okay, I can try, however googling gives at least 2 hits: https://github.com/bhyde/css-parser and https://github.com/thodg/parse-css
2017-06-10T18:27:26Z puchacz: I haven't tried either
2017-06-10T18:27:53Z jackdaniel: OK, go with them. I didn't look in the search engine, just remembered that closure had some support for css
2017-06-10T18:28:18Z puchacz: will do - thanks
2017-06-10T18:28:26Z jackdaniel: sure
2017-06-10T18:28:43Z puchacz: I am hanging around here - if anybody has any experience with either of them, or anything similar - please give me a shout!
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2017-06-10T18:32:25Z AndreasO: jackdaniel: it works,
2017-06-10T18:33:46Z jackdaniel: of course it does ;-)
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2017-06-10T18:37:34Z shka_: jackdaniel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W7c8QghPxk
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2017-06-10T19:27:26Z puchacz: hey, fare, are you around?
2017-06-10T19:27:48Z puchacz: or anybody else who knows where to find fare-matcher
2017-06-10T19:27:52Z puchacz: it disappeared from git
2017-06-10T19:32:35Z jackdaniel: puchacz: https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/frideau/fare-matcher
2017-06-10T19:32:46Z jackdaniel: common-lisp.net moved to gitlab in the meantime
2017-06-10T19:32:59Z jackdaniel: if you have found a link on cliki, could you update it?
2017-06-10T19:39:05Z puchacz: jackdaniel: I will
2017-06-10T19:39:23Z jackdaniel: <3
2017-06-10T19:41:38Z puchacz: done :)
2017-06-10T19:41:56Z puchacz: one of these css parsers rely on it
2017-06-10T19:42:44Z puchacz: it also relies on a custom fork of a parser :( https://github.com/bhyde/metapeg
2017-06-10T19:42:52Z puchacz: no joy so far
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2017-06-10T19:55:02Z fiddlerwoaroof: Does (defmethod foo ((bar keyword))) hang for anyone else?
2017-06-10T19:55:05Z fiddlerwoaroof: (in slime)
2017-06-10T19:55:22Z stara: How in emacs set tabulation?
2017-06-10T19:56:10Z fiddlerwoaroof: (SBCL 1.3.17.88-a40115dc3, if that makes a difference, although I don't get the same results from the repl)
2017-06-10T19:59:17Z jackdaniel: fiddlerwoaroof: yes, it hangs for me on slime + sbcl 1.3.18
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2017-06-10T20:00:10Z jackdaniel: on the other hand: (class-of :kda) returns built-in-class symbol
2017-06-10T20:00:14Z jackdaniel: keyword isn't class name
2017-06-10T20:01:00Z jackdaniel: it hangs on repl too for me
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2017-06-10T20:03:10Z axwin: Hangs for me on SBCL REPL too. It compiles and works on CCL REPL though.
2017-06-10T20:03:55Z jackdaniel: sbcl bug probably
2017-06-10T20:04:03Z fiddlerwoaroof: jackdaniel: I realize that, just trying to see if my bug is reproducible :)
2017-06-10T20:04:10Z jackdaniel: works on ecl :)(
2017-06-10T20:04:18Z axwin: I am on 1.3.18 btw
2017-06-10T20:04:19Z fiddlerwoaroof: I'm not sure if it's a sbcl bug or some odd interaction with slime
2017-06-10T20:04:51Z axwin: Same result in REPL or Sly for me.
2017-06-10T20:04:56Z jackdaniel: fiddlerwoaroof: it hangs on terminal on sbcl for me too
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2017-06-10T20:06:17Z fiddlerwoaroof: I see, just noticed this happens if I use the right sbcl :)
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2017-06-10T20:10:19Z fiddlerwoaroof: Hmm, it works in 1.3.14.debian but not in 1.3.16
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2017-06-10T20:56:32Z puchacz: hmmm, I am still trying my luck with this css-parser and I got this:
2017-06-10T20:56:33Z puchacz: http://paste.lisp.org/display/348490
2017-06-10T20:56:57Z puchacz: fresh lisp, the only thing I did was (require :css-parser)
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2017-06-10T21:03:04Z fiddlerwoaroof: Which version of sbcl?
2017-06-10T21:04:53Z puchacz: newest
2017-06-10T21:05:03Z fiddlerwoaroof: 1.3.18?
2017-06-10T21:05:32Z puchacz: I tried both sbcl-1.3.12 and sbcl-1.3.18
2017-06-10T21:05:46Z fiddlerwoaroof: How did you install css-parser?
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2017-06-10T21:06:30Z puchacz: I downloaded from https://github.com/bhyde/css-parser but it does not matter - it is not css parser that crashes, but metapeg
2017-06-10T21:06:49Z puchacz: which I downloaded from https://github.com/bhyde/metapeg
2017-06-10T21:07:19Z puchacz: and fare-matcher from https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/frideau/fare-matcher
2017-06-10T21:07:26Z puchacz: everything else via quicklisp
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2017-06-10T21:07:48Z puchacz: I can refresh all quicklisp libraries but I doubt it is the problem
2017-06-10T21:08:29Z fiddlerwoaroof: I'm just trying to replicate the error
2017-06-10T21:08:37Z puchacz: great, thanks
2017-06-10T21:08:52Z puchacz: mind however that these libraries are not as well maintained as quicklisp ones
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2017-06-10T21:09:34Z fiddlerwoaroof: fwiw, you can checkout your libraries into $HOME/quicklisp/local-projects and then quickload them
2017-06-10T21:09:45Z fiddlerwoaroof: It doesn't make a difference in this case, though
2017-06-10T21:09:53Z puchacz: that's what I did with the libraries I downloaded
2017-06-10T21:10:09Z puchacz: I mean I linked directories to local-projects in quicklisp
2017-06-10T21:11:51Z fiddlerwoaroof: Ah, I was confused by you saying you loaded css-parser with require
2017-06-10T21:12:10Z puchacz: I did :) but they live in local-projects
2017-06-10T21:15:06Z fiddlerwoaroof: I'm not sure what's going on.  Maybe load up css-parser in slime one form/file at a time to find where the bug is?
2017-06-10T21:15:43Z puchacz: did you replicate it then?
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2017-06-10T21:16:20Z fiddlerwoaroof: Yes I did
2017-06-10T21:16:32Z puchacz: thanks.....
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2017-06-10T21:19:12Z fiddlerwoaroof: The bug seems to occur starting with the form at line 715 in parser.lisp
2017-06-10T21:20:22Z puchacz: yes.
2017-06-10T21:21:17Z fiddlerwoaroof: Maybe try compiling with CCL?
2017-06-10T21:21:19Z puchacz: initially I said it was in metapeg, but I was wrong
2017-06-10T21:21:51Z puchacz: I will try lispworks, I never tried CCL
2017-06-10T21:21:59Z fiddlerwoaroof: It seems to work in ccl, can't say if the parser actually works
2017-06-10T21:22:36Z puchacz: oh, if you compiled it, can you try one of the examples from here please? https://github.com/bhyde/css-parser
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2017-06-10T21:23:38Z fiddlerwoaroof: It doesn't look like it works
2017-06-10T21:23:44Z fiddlerwoaroof: (on ccl, at least)
2017-06-10T21:23:51Z puchacz: thanks. I think I need another solution for css
2017-06-10T21:25:41Z fiddlerwoaroof: You might look at extracting the css parser from the closure browser or trying the other project
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2017-06-10T21:28:25Z fiddlerwoaroof: Depending on your needs, it might not be too difficult to write your own
2017-06-10T21:28:40Z puchacz: I would write my own. closure is not maintained either
2017-06-10T21:28:47Z puchacz: how do I start...?
2017-06-10T21:28:59Z fiddlerwoaroof: I know the closure browser's parser works
2017-06-10T21:29:12Z puchacz: I would need a parser and serialiser
2017-06-10T21:29:47Z puchacz: and I think I can nick a grammar in a format recognisable by one of the lisp's parser generators
2017-06-10T21:30:30Z puchacz: I can see closure is on quicklisp
2017-06-10T21:31:05Z fiddlerwoaroof: That's the xml library, iirc
2017-06-10T21:31:22Z puchacz: ah
2017-06-10T21:32:14Z puchacz: I forgot I have it already for html :-)
2017-06-10T21:32:41Z puchacz: (at some point I promised myself to migrate to plump, because it has jquery like selectors)
2017-06-10T21:33:02Z puchacz: (and does not make fuss about html5 etc)
2017-06-10T21:33:23Z fiddlerwoaroof: There is also a css-selectors library for cxml
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2017-06-10T21:33:40Z puchacz: maybe - but not a parser
2017-06-10T21:33:59Z puchacz: ah, I know what you mean - I do not need to migrate just for selectors
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2017-06-10T21:34:30Z puchacz: I don't know which one is "better" these days closure-html or plump
2017-06-10T21:34:32Z stara: Where slime is option compile and RUN?
2017-06-10T21:34:57Z puchacz: stara: I do not understand
2017-06-10T21:35:08Z puchacz: C-c C-c to compile a function under cursor
2017-06-10T21:35:16Z fiddlerwoaroof: puchacz: it depends on what you need, cxml/fxml validate against a schema or DTD
2017-06-10T21:35:31Z fiddlerwoaroof: plump is like BeautifulSoup or similar non-validating parsers
2017-06-10T21:36:09Z stara: OK, but I if write (string-upcase "hi").
2017-06-10T21:36:11Z puchacz: fiddlerwoaroof: I don't need validation, I use it against raw internet webpages. closure-html with some tweaks to DTD works so far
2017-06-10T21:36:32Z stara: compiling (STRING-UPCASE "hi")
2017-06-10T21:36:41Z stara: and I not see what me compiled.
2017-06-10T21:36:57Z fiddlerwoaroof: puchacz: for that purpose plump+lquery is probably better :)
2017-06-10T21:37:30Z puchacz: fiddlerwoaroof: this is why I keep promising myself to migrate :)
2017-06-10T21:37:43Z puchacz: stara: I still do not understand
2017-06-10T21:38:26Z puchacz: stara: maybe google for "marco baringer slime video"
2017-06-10T21:39:38Z puchacz: fiddlerwoaroof: no parser generators recommended here http://www.cliki.net/current%20recommended%20libraries
2017-06-10T21:39:52Z stara: Instead be:  compiling (STRING-UPCASE "hi") "HI". It I have: compiling (STRING-UPCASE "hi").
2017-06-10T21:40:19Z puchacz: stara: google for this video please
2017-06-10T21:40:52Z puchacz: and for general common lisp tutorial style book, google for gigamonkey practical common lisp
2017-06-10T21:41:18Z fiddlerwoaroof: puchacz: I like smug because I find parser-combinators easier to use than other parsers
2017-06-10T21:41:33Z fiddlerwoaroof: However, you might not need a "real" parser library
2017-06-10T21:42:02Z puchacz: I tried it, but it blows stack easily, no? does not seem to be real world hardened
2017-06-10T21:42:31Z fiddlerwoaroof: That's a limitation of parser-combinators, to some degree
2017-06-10T21:43:22Z puchacz: when I tried it, initially I thought - oh, I found something that would wean me off regexes eventually :)
2017-06-10T21:43:26Z puchacz: but it did not happen
2017-06-10T21:43:59Z fiddlerwoaroof: It works really well for me
2017-06-10T21:44:09Z puchacz: what do you parse?
2017-06-10T21:44:15Z fiddlerwoaroof: Simple things, mostly
2017-06-10T21:44:39Z fiddlerwoaroof: https://github.com/fiddlerwoaroof/tempores/blob/master/parser.lisp
2017-06-10T21:44:59Z antoszka: stara: how about joining #lisp-pl?
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2017-06-10T21:46:23Z stara: <Puchacz> Thanks for hint.
2017-06-10T21:46:44Z antoszka: That's an unusual IRC client ;)
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2017-06-10T22:14:45Z fiddlerwoaroof: jackdaniel: I think I've traced the bug to commit 810ccc869678de3df38aac41df8ca39b47388f93 using git bisect...
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