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2017-05-29T00:24:58Z antonv: in SLIME, how to go "Back"
2017-05-29T00:25:12Z antonv: the sortcut was "something L"
2017-05-29T00:25:24Z antonv: I can't remember how to do that
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2017-05-29T00:30:49Z antonv: parjanya: for example I did "go to definition" natigated to some source code. After reading the definition I want to return where I was before that.
2017-05-29T00:32:01Z parjanya: uh, that I don’t know... q? C-<left>?
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2017-05-29T00:33:04Z Bicyclidine: that's C-,
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2017-05-29T00:47:04Z antonv: Bicyclidine: thanks
2017-05-29T00:47:07Z antonv: work
2017-05-29T00:47:09Z antonv: works
2017-05-29T00:47:19Z antonv: But I used another shortcut..., something with L
2017-05-29T00:47:44Z Bicyclidine: If you do C-h k C-, you'll get the help for the function, which will list the keys it's bound to
2017-05-29T00:47:49Z Bicyclidine: (and of course you can change those if you want)
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2017-05-29T00:49:21Z pjb: antonv: use C-h m   to see all the bindings in the current mode.
2017-05-29T00:50:24Z antonv: Bicyclidine: pjb: thanks
2017-05-29T00:50:41Z antonv: C-, turns out to be "return from definition"
2017-05-29T00:50:46Z antonv: My command was more generic
2017-05-29T00:50:59Z antonv: not only for definition navigation
2017-05-29T00:51:05Z antonv: just returned to previous buffer and line
2017-05-29T00:51:43Z Bicyclidine: oh, i wouldn't know that then. probably in emacs help somewhere if it's not obvious from the list of bindings.
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2017-05-29T00:54:47Z antonv: not obvious... Ok, maybe I will remember it next time
2017-05-29T00:54:52Z antonv: Another question, about CFFI
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2017-05-29T00:55:10Z antonv: I want to have binding for a foreignt function which was renamed
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2017-05-29T00:56:26Z antonv: Previous this OpenSSL function was called SSLeay and now it is called OpenSSL_version_num
2017-05-29T00:57:16Z Bicyclidine: renamed as in between versions, not some magical DLthing?
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2017-05-29T00:57:22Z antonv: How to correctly do CFFI declaration to dynamically check what symbol exists and use it?
2017-05-29T00:57:30Z Bicyclidine: agh.
2017-05-29T00:57:34Z antonv: Bicyclidine: renamed between versions
2017-05-29T00:58:17Z antonv: The irony is that this function returns library version.
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2017-05-29T00:58:26Z antonv: OpenSSL version.
2017-05-29T00:58:49Z pjb: declare both and try both. The one that doesn't signal an error is the good one.
2017-05-29T01:00:00Z antonv: pjb: is it correct to wrap (cffi:defcfun ...) into an exception handler?
2017-05-29T01:00:22Z pjb: it is correct to wrap anything in a condition handler.
2017-05-29T01:00:32Z antonv: I don't know when (cffi:defcfun ...) does actual work: at compile time, load time
2017-05-29T01:00:36Z pjb: There are no exception in lisp: every behavior is normal!
2017-05-29T01:01:43Z Bicyclidine: antonv: i think it depends on the implementation actually.
2017-05-29T01:01:52Z antonv: Bicyclidine: exactly
2017-05-29T01:02:53Z Bicyclidine: but i don't think cffi has enough to query whether a symbol has a function. hell i don't know if C does off the top of my head
2017-05-29T01:03:13Z Bicyclidine: i guess dlsym can tell you whether there's a memory location for it.
2017-05-29T01:03:54Z antonv: Bicyclidine: CFFI has such feature, but it's not guaranteed to work on any impl (all impls have it except for Corman)
2017-05-29T01:04:45Z antonv: pjb: on some implementations (cffi:defcfun ...) doesn't fail whaterver foreign name you use, event non-existing
2017-05-29T01:04:48Z Bicyclidine: oh. well... do that then?
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2017-05-29T01:05:05Z pjb: and try both
2017-05-29T01:05:11Z antonv: Bicyclidine: I want portable thing, 100 correct
2017-05-29T01:05:27Z pjb: then use dlopen yourself.
2017-05-29T01:05:34Z Bicyclidine: you're not gonna get it from cffi
2017-05-29T01:05:45Z Bicyclidine: nobody uses corman anyway
2017-05-29T01:05:47Z antonv: pjb: dlopen doesn't work on Windows, I want portable
2017-05-29T01:06:01Z pjb: then install linux on your windows box!
2017-05-29T01:06:04Z Bicyclidine: actually half of cffi doesn't work on corman as i remember. doesn't it not have defcfun?
2017-05-29T01:08:04Z antonv: defcfum maybe work
2017-05-29T01:08:20Z antonv: BTW, this thing is called  foreign-funcall in CFFI
2017-05-29T01:08:23Z antonv: https://common-lisp.net/project/cffi/manual/cffi-manual.html#Functions
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2017-05-29T01:09:58Z antonv: pjb: the box is not mine :)
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2017-05-29T01:14:01Z Bicyclidine: so i got it backwards.
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2017-05-29T01:25:33Z Bicyclidine: corman supports defcfun but not foreign-funcall, not foreign-funcall but not defcfun
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2017-05-29T01:27:16Z JuanDaugherty: there's no sb-flavors or sb-clos someplace is there?
2017-05-29T01:27:27Z JuanDaugherty: (analogous to sb-pcl)
2017-05-29T01:31:18Z Bicyclidine: there's an sb-pcl?
2017-05-29T01:31:36Z Bicyclidine: oh, wait, the internals yeah.
2017-05-29T01:32:06Z Bicyclidine: well there's no flavors on account of sbcl is newer than when flavors stopped, and sb-clos would be sb-pcl.
2017-05-29T01:33:47Z antonv: I'm thinking to use cffi:foreign-funcall and rule-out corman, but first want to ensure the problem is impossible to solve with cffi:defcfun
2017-05-29T01:34:30Z antonv: pjb: can you help writing error handler so I will catch error a compile, load or call-time?
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2017-05-29T01:35:41Z antonv: (handler-case (cffi:defcfun ("SSLeay" ssleay) :long) (.....))
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2017-05-29T04:06:24Z beach: Good morning everyone!
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2017-05-29T04:10:51Z azzamsa: beach: have a great fun days. happy hacking!.
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2017-05-29T06:18:12Z MONODA: anyone know of a pdf viewer written in cl?
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2017-05-29T06:43:06Z MONODA: ah. well i didn't know about the pdf-tools package for emacs. I think that'll be sufficient for my use case!
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2017-05-29T15:32:00Z beach: Soon to appear: A more modern-looking version of my HTML-ized AMOP site, i.e. http://metamodular.com/CLOS-MOP/  (not my work)
2017-05-29T15:32:02Z beach: For more, information, see: https://github.com/robert-strandh/CLOS-MOP-HTML/issues/2
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2017-05-29T17:33:33Z flip214: beach: pretty pretty PLEASE, please have that included with phoe's CLUS...
2017-05-29T17:33:51Z flip214: a.k.a. "oh no, another fragmented CL document" ;)
2017-05-29T17:34:10Z beach: It is out of my hands.
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2017-05-29T17:57:04Z paule32: hello my friends
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2017-05-29T17:57:57Z paule32: is it possible, to inject code into lisp, so e.g. i can create strange projects
2017-05-29T17:58:02Z paule32: let me explain
2017-05-29T17:58:15Z paule32: i give the user the possible to work with 0 and 1
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2017-05-29T17:58:49Z paule32: the user can now use this bits, and create a component
2017-05-29T17:58:59Z paule32: like and, xor ...
2017-05-29T17:59:09Z paule32: and a parity bit
2017-05-29T17:59:19Z paule32: for calculations
2017-05-29T17:59:45Z paule32: the result is, the computer emulate him self
2017-05-29T17:59:57Z paule32: ok, ver utopical, but possible?
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2017-05-29T18:05:29Z whoman: yes.
2017-05-29T18:06:55Z paule32: cool
2017-05-29T18:07:20Z paule32: how does it shown in a smart console program?
2017-05-29T18:07:34Z whoman: ?
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2017-05-29T18:07:56Z paule32: the operation  A and B
2017-05-29T18:07:58Z whoman: macros from top to bottom. its how lisp is built anyway, so just remake it ?
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2017-05-29T18:59:41Z pjb: paule32: check reader macros.
2017-05-29T19:00:06Z pjb: paule32: try: #.(progn (print 'hi) 42)
2017-05-29T19:00:50Z pjb: paule32: try: (progn (write-string "Enter an integer: ") (force-output) (read)) RET  #.(progn (print 'hi) 42)  RET
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2017-05-29T19:09:35Z paule32: pjb: ?
2017-05-29T19:09:48Z paule32: HI Enter integer: 21
2017-05-29T19:09:51Z paule32: HI
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2017-05-29T19:20:01Z mhd: meta: do we have a common lisp eval bot?
2017-05-29T19:21:42Z mhd: on this channel, ala clojurebot on #clojure?
2017-05-29T19:23:51Z paule32: no, im not a robot :-)
2017-05-29T19:25:13Z paule32: the only thing here i can see, that the progn command execute the list - or better sayed: the commands in the list
2017-05-29T19:26:08Z mhd: example?
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2017-05-29T19:26:31Z paule32: or would this apply to "read" a textfile with commands, that stream is then exec
2017-05-29T19:27:34Z paule32: so, the scope is like you start a bash in a bash
2017-05-29T19:27:47Z paule32: each derivate from the parent
2017-05-29T19:28:12Z paule32: this intend to the second line
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2017-05-29T19:28:41Z paule32: write string, then flush strem buffer, read
2017-05-29T19:29:02Z paule32: and then exit the scope to execute scope 3
2017-05-29T19:29:17Z paule32: no nonsens
2017-05-29T19:29:26Z paule32: first line has 1 scope
2017-05-29T19:29:36Z paule32: second line 3
2017-05-29T19:29:42Z paule32: third 1
2017-05-29T19:29:54Z paule32: in context of commands
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2017-05-29T21:03:22Z pjb: paule32: RET = RETURN Obviously, you had to enter the two forms separately!
2017-05-29T21:03:28Z pjb: Try again.
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2017-05-29T21:11:39Z paule32: yes
2017-05-29T21:11:51Z paule32: without RET
2017-05-29T21:12:40Z paule32: #!/usr/local/bin/clisp
2017-05-29T21:12:40Z paule32: (progn (print 'hi) 42)
2017-05-29T21:12:40Z paule32: (progn (write-string "Enter integer: ") (force-output)(read))
2017-05-29T21:12:40Z paule32: (progn (print 'hi) 42)
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2017-05-29T21:15:20Z dim: damn I know have a rosettacode account :)
2017-05-29T21:15:58Z dim: let's stop the computer for the day before I get drawned too much into that thing...
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2017-05-29T22:13:09Z pjb: paule32: the problem seems to be that you are not working with a REPL.  This is highly inhabitual.  You won't be benefiting to the fullest from lisp, if you go on like that.
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2017-05-29T22:14:09Z pjb: paule32: type exactly, at a shell:  clisp -q -ansi -norc RET  (progn (write-string "Enter an integer: ") (force-output) (read)) RET  #.(progn (print 'hi) 42)  RET
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