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form from Apress (as of 11 April 2005). 2016-09-10T08:21:34Z jackdaniel: it has a chapter about macros and describes various gotchas 2016-09-10T08:23:58Z myrkraverk: thank you minion 2016-09-10T08:24:52Z eivarv joined #lisp 2016-09-10T08:26:30Z vapid: rude 2016-09-10T08:26:52Z beach: minion: thanks! 2016-09-10T08:26:52Z minion: no problem 2016-09-10T08:27:13Z ukari joined #lisp 2016-09-10T08:31:08Z beach: myrkraverk: The only thing I can think of that would be applicable to all such macros would be that they are typically implemented as a call to a function named INVOKE-WITH-FOO so that the body of the macro is passed as a closure to that function. 2016-09-10T08:32:09Z myrkraverk: Hmm, ok. 2016-09-10T08:32:17Z beach: That way, the code that establishes bindings, that calls unwind-protect, etc, is not duplicated. 2016-09-10T08:32:20Z myrkraverk: I'm not sure what that means, though. 2016-09-10T08:33:28Z beach: myrkraverk: Get a copy of the McCLIM repository, and type git `grep 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Did I miss something? 2016-09-10T19:29:16Z cromachina: you missed nothing 2016-09-10T19:30:20Z Jesin joined #lisp 2016-09-10T19:32:42Z ukari joined #lisp 2016-09-10T19:34:05Z Oladon quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-09-10T19:34:57Z jlarocco joined #lisp 2016-09-10T19:35:32Z Oladon joined #lisp 2016-09-10T19:37:18Z manuel_ quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-09-10T19:52:36Z manuel_ joined #lisp 2016-09-10T19:57:22Z shrdlu68: Is there a mailing list for hunchentoot? 2016-09-10T19:58:36Z shrdlu68: I've found this: https://gitter.im/edicl/hunchentoot, but it seems to be a little sparse and deserted, last activity in April. 2016-09-10T20:00:55Z robotoad joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:03:07Z wotfan joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:04:17Z ritschmaster: What about the GitHub page? https://github.com/edicl/hunchentoot 2016-09-10T20:08:09Z scymtym joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:10:46Z shka quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-09-10T20:12:01Z shrdlu68: ritschmaster: I got to the gitter.im page from github, but I suppose I will just use the github issues page. 2016-09-10T20:12:49Z wotfan quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T20:14:42Z deank quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-09-10T20:14:56Z erguven quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2016-09-10T20:18:07Z lnostdal quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-09-10T20:25:58Z BlueRavenGT quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-09-10T20:27:22Z adolf_stalin joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:31:31Z Fare quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2016-09-10T20:32:50Z whiteline quit (Quit: Leaving) 2016-09-10T20:32:59Z test1600 quit (Quit: Leaving) 2016-09-10T20:33:12Z whiteline joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:34:36Z whiteline quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T20:34:37Z stepnem quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-09-10T20:34:53Z whiteline joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:35:06Z fiddlerwoaroof: pipping: I'm a bit curious about that bug report. I managed to compile fricas just fine on my computer 2016-09-10T20:35:20Z fiddlerwoaroof: I wonder what the Gentoo ebuild does that causes the crazy memory usage 2016-09-10T20:37:19Z lnostdal joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:37:39Z xantoz: fiddlerwoaroof: you could try reading the ebuild to see if anything looks strange: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/dev-lisp/sbcl/sbcl-1.3.8.ebuild 2016-09-10T20:39:23Z xantoz: or maybe it's the fricas ebuild that's odd ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2016-09-10T20:42:18Z slyrus joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:42:42Z Ipe_ joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:47:28Z gravicappa quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-09-10T20:50:30Z dddddd joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:51:11Z attila_lendvai joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:51:11Z attila_lendvai quit (Changing host) 2016-09-10T20:51:11Z attila_lendvai joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:51:45Z stepnem_ joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:51:45Z attila_lendvai quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-09-10T20:54:09Z Ipe joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:54:10Z Ipe_ quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-09-10T20:54:34Z attila_lendvai joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:57:02Z sjl joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:57:56Z angavrilov quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T20:57:59Z ggole quit 2016-09-10T20:58:00Z stepnem_ quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-09-10T20:58:08Z bocaneri quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-09-10T20:58:30Z schjetne joined #lisp 2016-09-10T20:59:58Z puchacz quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2016-09-10T21:06:16Z stepnem_ joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:06:44Z MarkusBarthlen joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:07:08Z ovenpasta quit (Quit: ovenpasta) 2016-09-10T21:07:09Z Xizor quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-09-10T21:12:33Z zacts quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.5) 2016-09-10T21:13:05Z zacts joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:16:29Z andrei-n quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T21:16:58Z Fare joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:19:37Z stepnem_ is now known as stepnem 2016-09-10T21:22:47Z JoshYoshi joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:22:58Z pjb quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T21:24:10Z adolf_stalin quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T21:25:12Z Josh_2 quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-09-10T21:25:39Z attila_lendvai quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T21:27:37Z pipping: fiddlerwoaroof: well, it's odd that there's no reference to a separate gentoo bug or an upstream bug with the sbcl people 2016-09-10T21:27:58Z pipping: fiddlerwoaroof: so I'm not sure if it should be taken too seriously 2016-09-10T21:29:12Z JoshYoshi quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-09-10T21:30:02Z asc232 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T21:30:22Z billstclair: shrdlu68: you could just email Han Hübner: https://github.com/hanshuebner 2016-09-10T21:31:50Z billstclair: Who is apparently on this channel as H4ns . 2016-09-10T21:32:04Z jlarocco quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T21:32:38Z ASau` joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:32:41Z ASau quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-09-10T21:32:50Z vlatkoB quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T21:33:03Z billstclair: That’s Hans, not Han 2016-09-10T21:33:36Z k4rtik quit (Quit: Leaving) 2016-09-10T21:34:19Z toogley quit (Quit: toogley) 2016-09-10T21:35:17Z Fare quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-09-10T21:35:26Z ASau` is now known as ASau 2016-09-10T21:39:05Z Josh_2 joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:39:47Z shrdlu68: billstclair: Ah, yeah. 2016-09-10T21:40:38Z shrdlu68 left #lisp 2016-09-10T21:41:01Z hhdave joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:45:16Z toogley joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:46:28Z toogley quit (Client Quit) 2016-09-10T21:47:09Z toogley joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:48:17Z five776 joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:48:25Z five776 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-09-10T21:48:43Z five776 joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:48:50Z five776 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-09-10T21:49:47Z gingerale quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T21:49:54Z toogley quit (Client Quit) 2016-09-10T21:52:32Z can3p quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2016-09-10T21:53:27Z toogley joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:54:12Z hhdave quit (Quit: hhdave) 2016-09-10T21:55:16Z hhdave joined #lisp 2016-09-10T21:57:54Z sjl quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-09-10T22:00:18Z hhdave quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:00:39Z manuel_ quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:02:09Z bitch quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:02:53Z adolf_stalin joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:05:54Z holycow joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:06:31Z Ipe quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T22:06:51Z holycow: hi 2016-09-10T22:07:03Z holycow: i'm trying to load up garnet according to this page: https://github.com/earl-ducaine/cl-garnet 2016-09-10T22:07:51Z holycow: (ql:quickload :xoanon.gui.garnet.asd) always returns system-not-found which is odd because it is in the local-projects folder 2016-09-10T22:08:10Z holycow: any tip on how to get it loaded up? 2016-09-10T22:11:44Z JuanDaugherty: right now I'm dubious 2016-09-10T22:12:08Z holycow: me too. the git command is even wrong in the instructions 2016-09-10T22:12:09Z JuanDaugherty: that it runs anything like the last functional level 2016-09-10T22:12:34Z holycow: ah that wasn't for me, sorry. 2016-09-10T22:12:37Z pipping: "clone git". hmmm 2016-09-10T22:12:39Z dddddd quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:13:02Z JuanDaugherty: but let's be encouraging, great if there was a working version with sbcl 2016-09-10T22:14:06Z pipping: holycow: I think the .asd is the offender. the rest of the instructions works 2016-09-10T22:14:40Z holycow: weird, look sokay 2016-09-10T22:14:52Z pipping: holycow: (well, except for the point where inside of garnet something explodes) 2016-09-10T22:15:06Z hhdave joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:15:20Z JuanDaugherty: looks like xquartz is most likely path 2016-09-10T22:15:35Z holycow: what? i'm on linux 2016-09-10T22:15:45Z pipping: holycow: so I mean: (ql:quickload :xoanon.gui.garnet) works once you have garnet in quicklisp/local-projects and regenerated the system index 2016-09-10T22:17:05Z pipping: until this happens: http://dpaste.com/24S53N7 2016-09-10T22:17:22Z holycow: huh 2016-09-10T22:18:25Z jasom: that just needs a copy-readtable to work 2016-09-10T22:18:59Z holycow: pipping: oh you are right. i did not know about regenerating system-index 2016-09-10T22:19:01Z holycow: thank you 2016-09-10T22:19:03Z BlueRavenGT joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:20:30Z ASau quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-09-10T22:20:46Z EvW quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:23:15Z manuel_ joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:23:27Z k4rtik joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:23:28Z ritschmaster: Is garnet a thing? 2016-09-10T22:23:40Z jasom: FWIW if you just take the upstream garnet, the build-garnet script works just fine with sbcl 2016-09-10T22:24:36Z fe[nl]ix quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 2016-09-10T22:25:09Z kilimanjaro quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:26:10Z kilimanjaro joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:26:13Z fe[nl]ix joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:26:43Z l1x quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:26:59Z holycow: something is better than nothing 2016-09-10T22:28:53Z l1x joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:28:53Z yeticry quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:28:53Z araujo quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:29:30Z yeticry joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:29:30Z GyorsCsi1a joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:30:43Z holycow: pipping: thanks for the help. bbl 2016-09-10T22:30:46Z holycow quit (Quit: Lost terminal) 2016-09-10T22:31:26Z araujo joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:31:36Z drmeister quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:31:36Z GyorsCsiga quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:31:36Z nzambe quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:31:36Z keix quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T22:31:36Z easye quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T22:31:36Z drmeister joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:31:36Z drmeister quit (Changing host) 2016-09-10T22:31:36Z drmeister joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:31:40Z easye` joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:32:52Z BlueRavenGT quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:34:17Z l1x_ joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:34:50Z Baggers left #lisp 2016-09-10T22:36:19Z MoALTz quit (Quit: Leaving) 2016-09-10T22:36:28Z zacharias quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:37:23Z drmeister_ joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:37:49Z ristur quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:37:49Z fe[nl]ix quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 2016-09-10T22:37:49Z l1x quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:37:49Z tanuzzo quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:37:50Z holly2 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:37:51Z ristur joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:37:51Z drmeister quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:37:51Z cpt_nemo quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:37:52Z cpt_nemo joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:38:08Z l1x_ is now known as l1x 2016-09-10T22:38:22Z drmeister_ is now known as drmeister 2016-09-10T22:38:32Z Blkt_ joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:38:36Z joshe quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:38:36Z fe[nl]ix joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:40:29Z jasom: hmm 2016-09-10T22:40:40Z jasom: it's not guaranteed that (eq "foo" foo") will be false, is it? 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2016-09-10T22:46:08Z jasom: or without the reader macro, I suppose 2016-09-10T22:46:20Z Bike: copy-seq? 2016-09-10T22:46:21Z manuel_ quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:46:26Z manuel__ is now known as manuel_ 2016-09-10T22:46:31Z jasom: right 2016-09-10T22:46:41Z jasom: fresh simple array of rank one 2016-09-10T22:50:21Z atgreen quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:55:40Z varjag quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:56:38Z deank joined #lisp 2016-09-10T22:56:46Z mishoo quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-09-10T22:58:37Z robotoad quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Do I need to name the git checkout the same directory name? 2016-09-10T23:26:47Z ritschmaster: The git checkout/clone may have any name. Even the .asd files within the library may have different name. The only important thing is the name given at DEFSYSTEM 2016-09-10T23:26:48Z myrkraverk: Nope, naming it jsown works fine; thank you #lisp. 2016-09-10T23:27:02Z myrkraverk: Ah, nice. 2016-09-10T23:27:31Z ritschmaster: As Quicklisp uses the symbol name of DEFSYSTEM for loading it. 2016-09-10T23:28:12Z pragmata joined #lisp 2016-09-10T23:29:16Z manuel_ quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2016-09-10T23:29:24Z lnostdal quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-09-10T23:29:41Z seg quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-09-10T23:31:14Z EvW joined #lisp 2016-09-10T23:40:16Z seg joined #lisp 2016-09-10T23:44:03Z stepnem quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-09-10T23:44:09Z manuel_ joined #lisp 2016-09-10T23:48:53Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-09-10T23:51:40Z eivarv quit (Quit: Sleep) 2016-09-10T23:56:38Z xtal_ joined #lisp 2016-09-10T23:58:17Z White_Flame quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-09-10T23:59:03Z ukari quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)