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I have a list (A B) and I also have ((A (B C)) (B (D E)). I iterate through (A B), when at A, I need to get (B C), when at B I need to get (D E) 2016-07-26T03:36:11Z Bike: (loop for key in '(a b) do (whatever (second (assoc key list)))) 2016-07-26T03:36:27Z beach joined #lisp 2016-07-26T03:36:30Z Bike: assuming the list isn't ordered or anything that's pretty much how it's gonna go 2016-07-26T03:36:38Z beach: Good morning everyone! 2016-07-26T03:36:50Z fugue: Thanks 2016-07-26T03:38:42Z Petit_Dejeuner: fugue: you mean a depth first search? 2016-07-26T03:39:38Z fugue: Petit_Dejeuner: Somewhat. What Bike suggested worked. I just needed to find the adjacency list given the 'head' or w/e 2016-07-26T03:42:17Z schoppenhauer quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2016-07-26T03:43:31Z IPmonger joined #lisp 2016-07-26T03:44:02Z schoppenhauer joined #lisp 2016-07-26T03:45:55Z lexicall quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-07-26T03:46:45Z dainis quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-07-26T03:47:59Z IPmonger quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2016-07-26T03:48:19Z mastokley quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-07-26T03:52:33Z brendyn joined #lisp 2016-07-26T03:53:33Z sukra quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-07-26T03:55:23Z Bike: not a depth first search. no actual tree. 2016-07-26T03:56:25Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-07-26T03:57:40Z fugue: Bike: similarly Given ((A (B C)) (B (C E)) and 'C' , what method is to be used to remove the C's from the assoc lists? -> ( (A (B)) (B (E)) ) 2016-07-26T03:59:41Z kn-928 joined #lisp 2016-07-26T04:00:34Z kn-928 quit (Client Quit) 2016-07-26T04:02:07Z beach: (loop for item in alist collect (list (first item) (remove thing (second item)))) 2016-07-26T04:02:20Z beach: clhs remove 2016-07-26T04:02:21Z specbot: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/f_rm_rm.htm 2016-07-26T04:09:53Z lexicall joined #lisp 2016-07-26T04:14:45Z lexicall quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-07-26T04:16:02Z fugue: beach: 'C' is actually coming from another list. 2016-07-26T04:16:32Z Bike: what does that mean 2016-07-26T04:16:35Z beach: It doesn't matter. when I wrote THING, I meant the C you were talking about. 2016-07-26T04:17:27Z fugue: it means ListA=(Z B Y) and ListB=((A (B C)) (B (C E)). I'm currently iterating over ListA and for each element, if its in the assoc list, remove it 2016-07-26T04:17:35Z dainis joined #lisp 2016-07-26T04:17:45Z fugue: So the only thing that will hit in that case is (A (B C)) and it will become (A (C)) 2016-07-26T04:17:57Z Bike: look, you have pretty much the code, now you need to generalize it a bit 2016-07-26T04:18:03Z Bike: we don't want to write the whole thing for you 2016-07-26T04:18:07Z Bike: you have the tools you need 2016-07-26T04:18:38Z fugue: I respect that. My question is, would I need to iterate over listB as well? 2016-07-26T04:18:48Z fugue: Dring each iteration of listA 2016-07-26T04:19:06Z beach: fugue: What did it look like I was doing in that last code? 2016-07-26T04:19:12Z Bike: that's what the loop is in beach's code 2016-07-26T04:19:38Z fugue: Oh, wtf 2016-07-26T04:19:54Z Bike: i mean, that's all that would make sense, since you didn't tell us about the other list 2016-07-26T04:20:01Z OlegWock joined #lisp 2016-07-26T04:20:25Z OlegWock quit (Client Quit) 2016-07-26T04:20:29Z fugue: That was an asshole move 2016-07-26T04:20:32Z fugue: (by me) 2016-07-26T04:20:50Z fugue: I somehow think you guys should be able to know exactly what I'm thinking 2016-07-26T04:21:06Z beach: It's a common mistake. 2016-07-26T04:21:44Z dainis quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-07-26T04:21:53Z fugue: One made too often 2016-07-26T04:22:08Z beach: "I have some things and some stuff, and I would like to do something that is mentioned in stuff to the things. Is there anything already in Common Lisp to do that, or do I have to roll my own?" 2016-07-26T04:22:52Z Tristam quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-07-26T04:24:00Z Tristam joined #lisp 2016-07-26T04:24:08Z beach: [A generalization of the common mistake.] 2016-07-26T04:24:22Z beach: At least, that is often how it sounds to me. 2016-07-26T04:24:51Z beach: But I am notoriously bad with understanding such problems. Other #lisp participants do better. 2016-07-26T04:27:45Z loke quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-07-26T04:36:54Z oleo_ quit (Quit: Leaving) 2016-07-26T04:37:38Z asc232 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-07-26T04:39:01Z vlatkoB joined #lisp 2016-07-26T04:40:17Z loke joined #lisp 2016-07-26T04:42:50Z defaultxr quit (Quit: gnight) 2016-07-26T04:45:09Z Petit_Dejeuner: beach: "Is there anything already in Common Lisp to do that, or do I have to roll my own" I imagine this is caused by A) having a premade solution to the problem in other languages B) not wanting to reinvent the wheel 2016-07-26T04:47:55Z beach: Sounds plausible. 2016-07-26T04:49:05Z Petit_Dejeuner: at least that's why I did (do?) it 2016-07-26T04:51:45Z ramky joined #lisp 2016-07-26T04:52:03Z protist quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2016-07-26T04:55:01Z pillton: Is the order of evaluation for functions important in CL? Could you change it so that it is arbitrary? 2016-07-26T04:55:19Z beach: pillton: You can't change it without violating the standard. 2016-07-26T04:55:40Z pillton: Yep. Assume you could though. 2016-07-26T04:55:40Z beach: pillton: Of course, there are cases where there is no way to tell the difference. 2016-07-26T04:55:49Z jasom: pillton: what exactly do you want to do? 2016-07-26T04:56:24Z beach: pillton: If you don't care about the standard, then sure. Scheme does not have a defined order of evaluation for example. 2016-07-26T04:57:01Z mvilleneuve joined #lisp 2016-07-26T04:57:09Z pillton: I know. I was just wondering if it would impact something in CL. 2016-07-26T04:59:26Z pillton: jasom: I am trying to do something without relying on a code walker or symbol macrolet wizardry. 2016-07-26T04:59:30Z Sucks quit (Quit: Leaving) 2016-07-26T04:59:33Z Petit_Dejeuner: If any expressions where order changes meaning are given as arguments to the same function, but I don't know how you'd check for that. 2016-07-26T05:02:22Z Bike: "impact something in CL" isn't what you mean, what you mean is "impact CL code I care about" 2016-07-26T05:07:47Z pillton: Inline something doesn't change the order of evaluation does it? 2016-07-26T05:09:45Z kushal joined #lisp 2016-07-26T05:11:25Z Bike: you mean, do the arguments still have to be evaluated left to right for an inlined call? yes 2016-07-26T05:11:41Z karswell quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-07-26T05:12:22Z karswell joined #lisp 2016-07-26T05:13:17Z pillton: Yeah. So CL can't use normal order evaluation in some circumstances? 2016-07-26T05:13:35Z Bike: oh, that's what you meant. 2016-07-26T05:14:03Z Bike: it can use normal order evaluation wherever it's impossible to tell what order of evaluation is used. 2016-07-26T05:14:58Z Bike: so it's ok when an argument has no side effects and halts, i suppose. 2016-07-26T05:17:22Z loke: Bike: Well, arguably halting is a side effect, isn't it? 2016-07-26T05:17:46Z Bike: yes, but i didn't feel like having an argument 2016-07-26T05:18:03Z loke: Fair enough. 2016-07-26T05:18:44Z pillton: We're not having an argument. 2016-07-26T05:19:26Z Bike: thanks to my careful planning 2016-07-26T05:20:21Z pillton: I don't think I have ever had an argument in this channel. 2016-07-26T05:20:48Z H4ns: you can't blame that on the channel :) 2016-07-26T05:21:18Z pillton: Touche.... 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How do I compile all methods in a generic function? (dolist (method (clos:generic-function-methods #'foo)) (setf (clos:method-function method) (compile nil (clos:method-function method)))) doesn't seem to work because (setf clos:method-function) is undefined. 2016-07-26T13:53:51Z luis: (compile 'foo) doesn't seem to compile the methods either. 2016-07-26T13:54:09Z moore33: luis: In general they would already be compiled. 2016-07-26T13:54:16Z luis: moore33: oh, sure. 2016-07-26T13:55:01Z Karl_Dscc joined #lisp 2016-07-26T13:55:06Z luis: This is mostly idle curiosity. 2016-07-26T13:56:30Z schjetne joined #lisp 2016-07-26T13:56:42Z papachan` joined #lisp 2016-07-26T13:57:09Z IPmonger quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2016-07-26T13:57:34Z adolf_stalin joined #lisp 2016-07-26T13:58:36Z cromachina quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-07-26T13:59:58Z luis: Hmm. (compile '(method foo _specializers_)) seems to do the trick! 2016-07-26T14:00:16Z luis: On ACL at least. 2016-07-26T14:00:55Z luis: Doesn't seem to be a standard thing, according to CLHS's definition of "function name". 2016-07-26T14:01:05Z xaotuk quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-07-26T14:01:17Z quazimodo quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-07-26T14:01:33Z quazimod1 quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-07-26T14:05:07Z lexicall quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-07-26T14:05:58Z lexicall joined #lisp 2016-07-26T14:06:27Z DavidGu joined #lisp 2016-07-26T14:08:34Z quasus joined #lisp 2016-07-26T14:10:12Z elimik31 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-07-26T14:10:14Z lexicall quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-07-26T14:13:54Z IPmonger joined #lisp 2016-07-26T14:18:16Z IPmonger quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-07-26T14:20:48Z DavidGu quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-07-26T14:21:08Z DavidGu joined #lisp 2016-07-26T14:23:34Z IPmonger joined #lisp 2016-07-26T14:27:57Z IPmonger quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-07-26T14:29:15Z Ven_ quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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That did it. 2016-07-26T15:39:46Z holly2 joined #lisp 2016-07-26T15:40:52Z rpg: I'll figure out how to get this non-interactively so that I can hook the slime-repl appropriately. 2016-07-26T15:41:19Z ASau quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-07-26T15:41:27Z jackdaniel: I think you'll have to plug into some method in swank as an :around 2016-07-26T15:41:37Z jackdaniel: or maybe it's bound to some parameter 2016-07-26T15:41:49Z jackdaniel: (internal parameter I suppose) 2016-07-26T15:43:25Z Petit_Dejeuner joined #lisp 2016-07-26T15:44:55Z deank quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-07-26T15:45:25Z rpg: I'm not sure I understand the system architecture, since slime-repl is only an extension. Somewhere in swank-repl.lisp I need to find the stream that gets stuff into the REPL. I'm not entirely sure how this is done, since normally I think the repl gets stuff as a result of a call into lisp. Here we have lisp trying to push stuff at the repl. But I guess this is isomorphic to any other tracing. 2016-07-26T15:46:22Z jackdaniel: swank is basically an RPC implementation where slime is on the other end 2016-07-26T15:46:47Z jackdaniel: s/an/a/ 2016-07-26T15:48:03Z rpg: Looks like the block comment on "IO to Emacs" should have the information I need. 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Is it similar to rvm (Ruby Version Manager) and pyenv? 2016-07-26T17:59:06Z phoe: Is it feasible and anyhow usable later on to provide :TYPE when declaring slots in DEFCLASS? 2016-07-26T17:59:11Z phoe: Or is it just an optimization? 2016-07-26T17:59:13Z phoe: clhs defclass 2016-07-26T17:59:13Z specbot: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/m_defcla.htm 2016-07-26T17:59:57Z John[Lisbeth] quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-07-26T18:00:04Z IPmonger joined #lisp 2016-07-26T18:00:04Z rpg: phoe: "later on"? 2016-07-26T18:00:43Z John[Lisbeth] joined #lisp 2016-07-26T18:02:02Z phoe: rpg: yes, later. 2016-07-26T18:02:25Z phoe: I mean - is the :TYPE argument used for anything other than optimizing the generic functions that access that slot? 2016-07-26T18:02:45Z rpg: phoe: Depends on the implementation. CCL uses it for type-checking in at least some circumstances. 2016-07-26T18:03:08Z Petit_Dejeuner: aw, sbcl doesn't use it to check if it was initialized correctly :( 2016-07-26T18:04:10Z John[Lisbeth] quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-07-26T18:04:53Z IPmonger quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-07-26T18:04:54Z John[Lisbeth] joined #lisp 2016-07-26T18:08:15Z John[Lisbeth] quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-07-26T18:09:02Z John[Lisbeth] joined #lisp 2016-07-26T18:09:41Z xrash quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-07-26T18:10:22Z reb`` quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-07-26T18:10:49Z Petit_Dejeuner: phoe: Putting this around my class definition made it type check safely. (locally (declare (optimize safety) ...) 2016-07-26T18:11:28Z phoe: Petit_Dejeuner: I see. 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What's the best way to submit it? 2016-07-26T20:01:00Z warweasle has a patch file. 2016-07-26T20:02:02Z mastokley quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-07-26T20:02:09Z Davidbrcz joined #lisp 2016-07-26T20:04:54Z John[Lisbeth] quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-07-26T20:05:39Z John[Lisbeth] joined #lisp 2016-07-26T20:05:57Z phoe: warweasle: I think it might be contacting jackdaniel and/or sending it to the ECL gitlab 2016-07-26T20:08:06Z warweasle: phoe: So gitlab is still the right repo? 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