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2016-06-16T03:07:24Z Polyphony: Is there a standard common-lisp function that will return a whole "row" of a multi-dimensional array?
2016-06-16T03:08:11Z pillton: No, but you can do it using displaced arrays.
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2016-06-16T03:08:51Z Polyphony: hmm, i guess that makes sense
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2016-06-16T03:09:11Z pillton: Keep in mind that arrays are stored in row major order.
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2016-06-16T03:12:27Z pillton: You can use the function array-row-major-index to compute the displacement offset.
2016-06-16T03:12:31Z pillton: clhs array-row-major-index
2016-06-16T03:12:31Z specbot: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/f_ar_row.htm
2016-06-16T03:15:51Z Polyphony: thanks folks
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2016-06-16T03:33:05Z akkad: does ccl have posix inode/length functions?
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2016-06-16T03:57:15Z jasom: akkad: what are inode/length functions?
2016-06-16T03:57:18Z pillton: akkad: I don't know what functions you seek but you can use apropos to search for symbols. The output shows which symbols have functions bound to them.
2016-06-16T03:57:23Z pillton: clhs arpopos
2016-06-16T03:57:23Z specbot: Couldn't find anything for arpopos.
2016-06-16T03:57:29Z pillton: clhs apropos
2016-06-16T03:57:29Z specbot: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/f_apropo.htm
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2016-06-16T04:28:43Z beach: Good morning everyone!
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2016-06-16T06:59:43Z jackdaniel: PuercoPop: I'm not sure if I tried it, thanks!
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2016-06-16T07:00:09Z jackdaniel: PuercoPop: what would you suggest instead?
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2016-06-16T07:01:24Z ayala: hellooo
2016-06-16T07:01:31Z jackdaniel: o/
2016-06-16T07:01:33Z ayala: Can someone help me?
2016-06-16T07:01:43Z ayala: I'm trying to do that:
2016-06-16T07:01:49Z jackdaniel: ask the question, I think that if it will be OK then someone will :)
2016-06-16T07:02:03Z PuercoPop: jackdaniel: why not stay at docbook? asciidoc is a nice alternative syntax to docbook
2016-06-16T07:02:08Z ayala:  (f '((a b c) (f g) (g t) (o p)) 2 2)
2016-06-16T07:02:13Z ayala: (g t)
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2016-06-16T07:02:27Z jackdaniel: PuercoPop: I inherently hate xml :|
2016-06-16T07:02:31Z ayala: (defun f (liste n m)
2016-06-16T07:02:32Z ayala:   (cond
2016-06-16T07:02:32Z ayala:     ((atom liste) nil)
2016-06-16T07:02:32Z ayala:     ((and (eq (length (car liste)) m) (eq (car liste) (nth n liste))) (car liste))
2016-06-16T07:02:32Z ayala:     (t (f (cdr liste) n m)) ) )
2016-06-16T07:02:35Z jackdaniel: too verbose
2016-06-16T07:02:38Z jackdaniel: ayala: use paste.lisp.org
2016-06-16T07:03:38Z ayala: ok
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2016-06-16T07:06:21Z ayala: http://paste.lisp.org/+6TQG
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2016-06-16T07:11:08Z PuercoPop: jackdaniel: think of asciidoc as docbook minus to xml :D
2016-06-16T07:11:42Z jackdaniel: does it have indexes etc? (never read about asciidoc)
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2016-06-16T07:15:42Z PuercoPop: jackdaniel: asciidoc is literally like docbook but with a friendlier syntax XML for syntax. So yes
2016-06-16T07:16:12Z jackdaniel: OK, I'll examine if it's suitable :)
2016-06-16T07:16:59Z ayala: u saw it?
2016-06-16T07:17:30Z jackdaniel: ayala: and what's the problem?
2016-06-16T07:17:47Z jackdaniel: use eql instead of eq (don't as why, read Practical Common Lisp for details)
2016-06-16T07:17:48Z PuercoPop: it is also extensible so you can add stuff clhs:remove-if
2016-06-16T07:18:35Z ayala: it works with eql?
2016-06-16T07:19:12Z ayala: the problem is when i ask (f '((a b c) (f g) (g t) (o p)) 2 2)
2016-06-16T07:19:26Z ayala: it doesn't give me (g t)
2016-06-16T07:19:35Z jackdaniel: ayala: because you quote arguments
2016-06-16T07:19:53Z jackdaniel: if you call function with arguments 1 2 3, then it goes like
2016-06-16T07:19:56Z jackdaniel: (function 1 2 3)
2016-06-16T07:20:19Z jackdaniel: if you want to call a function with a list, then (f (list 1 2 3)), not (f '(1 2 3))
2016-06-16T07:20:22Z ayala: even if it's a list?
2016-06-16T07:20:25Z jackdaniel: eventually (f `(1 2 3))
2016-06-16T07:20:29Z jackdaniel: note backquote, not quote
2016-06-16T07:21:35Z jackdaniel: but use (list …)
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2016-06-16T08:55:48Z scymtym: PuercoPop: sounds like a bug. do you have a concise test case?
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2016-06-16T13:16:56Z hjudt: i have a question regarding alists and hash tables: when does one use hash tables, and when can one still use alists? to put it another way, what is _big_?
2016-06-16T13:17:21Z hjudt: (i encounter alists when decoding json with cl-json)
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2016-06-16T13:19:55Z Xach: hjudt: I use alists when I want easy literals for a dozen or so things. I also use them when I want a structure that I can extend non-destructively, by prepending entries. That makes it easy to scope extensions with the call stack.
2016-06-16T13:21:02Z _death: if you have to ask what is big, just use a hashtable
2016-06-16T13:21:10Z Xach: I use hash tables when literal initial values aren't important or when I expect many entries.
2016-06-16T13:21:24Z _death: if you find that your program is too slow, profile
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2016-06-16T13:27:18Z jdz: _death: even so Xach's heuristics are good
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2016-06-16T13:27:56Z _death: jdz: I agree
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2016-06-16T13:29:21Z _death: there are other subtleties, and many c.l.l threads about them :)
2016-06-16T13:29:32Z jdz: doing Python for my day job i miss singly linked lists a lot, especially plists which allow to augment arglists passed down to callees without modifying the original list
2016-06-16T13:30:19Z hjudt: _death: i get the alists from cl-json, and the responses are from bulk requests (that means there are multiple responses in one http response and therefore multiple lists). i simply wonder if i should parse that data into an immediate data structure or just use it and assign it finally.
2016-06-16T13:30:36Z hjudt: that data needs to go into object slots for further access
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2016-06-16T13:31:39Z hjudt: since there are less than 50 items in the main list i guess its probably ok to simply use those alists as provided
2016-06-16T13:32:24Z _death: hjudt: you can pick whatever's convenient and hide it behind an interface.. then if it's too slow etc. you can change it
2016-06-16T13:32:41Z hjudt: i can still think about another solution if it gets too slow, but today's machines should easily cope with such lists...
2016-06-16T13:32:51Z hjudt: thanks
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2016-06-16T13:52:45Z dim: in https://github.com/dimitri/pgloader/issues/337#issuecomment-226436393 it looks like an SBCL ldb paste where the Garbage Collector is failing... right?
2016-06-16T13:55:30Z Xach: dim: it's an out-of-memory message from ldb, yes
2016-06-16T13:56:09Z dim: I mean more like the trace including 11: SB-KERNEL::COLLECT-GARBAGE
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2016-06-16T14:02:49Z PuercoPop: scymtym: no, it is in the montezuma code base. I'm unsure how to reduce it as I'm not familiar with its codebase
2016-06-16T14:03:16Z dim: so basically, would it be a failure in   22: QMYND-IMPL::PARSE-RESULTSET-ROW
2016-06-16T14:03:16Z dim:  or in   11: SB-KERNEL::COLLECT-GARBAGE or somewhere else entirely?
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2016-06-16T14:27:36Z scymtym: PuercoPop: the (montezuma:add-indexes index) method assigns a vector value to the &rest parameter. SBCL seems to assume that the variable will only be bound to list values
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2016-06-16T14:34:17Z PuercoPop: scymtym: thanks! But how does it manage to do that? Isn't the rest list constructed on the call site?
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2016-06-16T14:39:48Z scymtym: PuercoPop: it assigns to the &rest parameter, i.e. the indexes variable in &rest indexes
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2016-06-16T14:40:53Z PuercoPop: scymtym: ah right. That is not portable right?
2016-06-16T14:41:10Z PuercoPop: I should change the setf to the a let
2016-06-16T14:41:30Z scymtym: i would say that's questionable style, but still looks like a bug in SBCL - at least i couldn't find anything in the clhs forbidding something like that
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2016-06-16T14:44:04Z scymtym: honestly, maybe rewrite that method. further down there is another assignment to indexes followed by (apply … indexes). it is not immediately clear whether that code can be reached in case a vector has been assigned to indexes
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2016-06-16T14:47:59Z PuercoPop: btw there is another issue I'm investigation, basically a reduce of a vector with a couple of objects and 0's with a key score (which has a method for the objects but not for 0) 'works' on SBCL but fails on CCL. Any idea why it could succeed in SBCL?
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2016-06-16T14:52:44Z scymtym: no. did you try TRACEing the SCORE function?
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2016-06-16T15:06:29Z PuercoPop: scymtym: yeah, it appears to ignore the rest of the elements of the vector
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2016-06-16T15:09:18Z scymtym: non-local exit from the :key #'score function?
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2016-06-16T15:11:59Z PuercoPop: no, I mean it is only called twice for a vector of length 8
2016-06-16T15:12:06Z PuercoPop: ahh
2016-06-16T15:12:25Z PuercoPop: you mean the possible cause
2016-06-16T15:12:42Z PuercoPop: well first I'll first add-indexes, thanks for the help
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2016-06-16T15:46:29Z therik: hello, I have a question about (read) and streams in SBCL general... I've M-.'ed the read function and there's %read-preserving-whitespace, which contains an endless loop that seems to be running till the stream gets the data...
2016-06-16T15:48:22Z therik: I might be misunderstanding it here, but does this mean that the thread will be locked and frying the processor in endless loop in case the stream just doesn't give anything back? Or does it somehow detect that this loop doesn't do anything and switch to other thread instead?
2016-06-16T15:49:29Z igam`: therik: there's probably some blocking I/O further down the call graph.
2016-06-16T15:50:00Z igam`: therik: on unix, I/O shoudl always be done in a loop until you have the data you need.
2016-06-16T15:50:08Z igam`: therik: cf.:  man 2 read
2016-06-16T15:50:35Z therik: thanks
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2016-06-16T15:54:06Z therik: igam`: so if I understand, it just puts the thread into background gracefully and checks on it periodically... So to do (loop (read)) in one thread to get repeated messages from socket is also correct implementation and it won't cause performance trouble, right?
2016-06-16T15:58:30Z igam`: therik: yes, the unix kernel will actually do that, blocking on the read syscall.
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2016-06-16T15:59:11Z igam`: therik: we need the loop because on the other hand, the unix kernel may and will exit from the syscall before having read the requested data (eg. on signal, if it decide this thread must handle the signal, etc).
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2016-06-16T16:11:12Z jasom: igam`, therik: "always" is an exaggeration.  The whole reason that libc doesn't wrap read() with a loop is that you might sometimes want to change your behavior if you get interrupted.
2016-06-16T16:13:41Z jasom: therik: also, read will only ever return 0 bytes read in the case of end-of-file, so it will do one of: 1) Make progress 2) return an error 3) be at end-of-file
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2016-06-16T16:20:35Z jasom: though looking at %read-preserving-whitespace it doesn't work at all how you described; it uses read-char in a loop.  read-char is guaranteed to return something or error, and it explicitly checks for eof.
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2016-06-16T18:19:56Z jasom: paule32 is unable to see any messages in this channel, and he is talking but we can't see his; any ideas?
2016-06-16T18:20:42Z therik: try different server?
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2016-06-16T18:20:53Z jasom: therik: he can talk in #sbcl
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2016-06-16T18:23:04Z jasom: paule32: can you hear me now?
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2016-06-16T18:25:00Z jsnell: maybe he's been muted? (or whatever the name of that irc mode flag is)
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2016-06-16T18:25:47Z jasom: jsnell: that's what I'm looking at, but I would think he would see my messages
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2016-06-16T18:28:11Z jasom: anyone with op status around? slyrus Xach p_l?
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2016-06-16T18:29:09Z Xach: hello
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2016-06-16T18:29:26Z jasom: Xach: paule32 is unable to talk in here, I was wondering if he matches one of the quiet rules
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2016-06-16T18:30:29Z Xach: Not that I can tell
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2016-06-16T18:30:58Z Xach isn't familiar with channel modes added after 1998
2016-06-16T18:31:13Z jasom: should be the same as +b
2016-06-16T18:31:30Z Xach: It doesn't look like it's on the q list to me.
2016-06-16T18:31:38Z jasom: *3?!*@*
2016-06-16T18:31:39Z Xach: but it's hard to eyeball
2016-06-16T18:31:49Z jasom: paule32 matches *3? right?
2016-06-16T18:31:52Z Xach: oh, in the nick. i was looking at username.
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2016-06-16T18:32:05Z ChanServ has set mode +o Xach
2016-06-16T18:32:10Z Xach has set mode -q *3?!*@*
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2016-06-16T18:32:20Z jasom: paule32: try talking now
2016-06-16T18:32:24Z Xach: make it count!
2016-06-16T18:32:29Z paule32: 1
2016-06-16T18:32:30Z paule32: 2
2016-06-16T18:32:30Z paule32: 3
2016-06-16T18:32:33Z therik: yupii :)
2016-06-16T18:32:34Z jasom: 1 2 3 I hear you
2016-06-16T18:32:41Z paule32: supi
2016-06-16T18:32:57Z jasom: thanks Xach!
2016-06-16T18:32:58Z therik: well, that was a daily dose of drama..
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2016-06-16T18:33:11Z paule32: bann list?
2016-06-16T18:33:13Z Xach: no problem
2016-06-16T18:33:20Z Xach: but let us put it all past us and chat of lisp
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2016-06-16T18:34:00Z jasom: I think paule32 wanted a list in a list https://paste.fedoraproject.org/379995/46607818/
2016-06-16T18:35:24Z paule32: yes
2016-06-16T18:35:38Z jasom: (GEH ES_ IHN GUT)  <-- paule32 this tries to call a function named "GEH" with the parameters ES_ IHN GUT
2016-06-16T18:36:04Z paule32: or if that better:  https://paste.fedoraproject.org/380183/14660980/
2016-06-16T18:36:13Z jasom: I think you want (defvar *a_zustand-eingang-new* '((geh es_ ihn gut) (w__ sie)))
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2016-06-16T18:37:34Z jasom: other oddities include (string "es"      ) where the call to function string is redundant
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2016-06-16T18:38:07Z jasom: oh, I misread; you probably want (list (list geh es_ ihn gut) (list w__ sie))
2016-06-16T18:38:27Z paule32: here is my plan/idea: a list of sentences
2016-06-16T18:38:45Z paule32: then random peek a sentence
2016-06-16T18:38:50Z jasom: that would be equal to (("geht" "es" "Ihnen" "gut") ("wollen" "sie"))
2016-06-16T18:38:52Z paule32: and print it out, or make decisions
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2016-06-16T18:40:08Z paule32: (("go" "to" "cinema") ("do" "you" "want")) are two different lists?
2016-06-16T18:41:32Z jasom: that is a list containing two lists of strings
2016-06-16T18:41:49Z jasom: and (list (list geh es_ ihn gut) (list w__ sie)) would construct such a list
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2016-06-16T18:42:44Z paule32: because i need only 1 list at time
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2016-06-16T18:43:01Z jasom: (list "Wollen" "Sie" "nach" "Hause" "gehen") would make a list, for example.
2016-06-16T18:43:10Z paule32: yes
2016-06-16T18:43:30Z jasom: so what exactly do you want the value of *a_zustand-eingang-new* to be?
2016-06-16T18:43:31Z paule32: but i need a form, where i can pick up a sentence
2016-06-16T18:44:13Z paule32: (list "How" "are" "you")
2016-06-16T18:44:16Z paule32: or
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2016-06-16T18:44:36Z paule32: (list "Do" "you" "want")
2016-06-16T18:45:22Z pjb: (list "Do" "you" "want") #| --> ("Do" "you" "want") |#
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2016-06-16T18:47:27Z paule32: and all sentence's (list1 + list2) should be in a (super) list, which can contain e.g. 10 sentence's and when i would like to say "get random (superlist)" then print (superlist-item)
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2016-06-16T18:48:14Z jasom: yeah, so it goes back to what I posted: (list (list geh es_ ihn gut) (list w__ sie))
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2016-06-16T18:49:38Z paule32: ah, fine
2016-06-16T18:49:57Z paule32: it works
2016-06-16T18:50:00Z paule32: thank you
2016-06-16T18:51:37Z jasom: http://paste.lisp.org/+6TRP
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2016-06-16T18:52:53Z jasom: proper capitalization for first-person formal versus third-person feminine is an excercise left up to the reader.
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2016-06-16T18:58:58Z paule32: random seems not be random: or is the fact, that i have not enough data?
2016-06-16T19:01:45Z jasom: paule32: random is deterministic from the point that you startup lisp
2016-06-16T19:01:51Z dlowe: are you setting the random seed?
2016-06-16T19:02:03Z jasom: i.e. if you startup sbcl and do (list (random 10) (random 10)) you will get (6 9)
2016-06-16T19:02:31Z jasom: if you (setf *random-state* (make-random-state)) it will shuffle it
2016-06-16T19:02:45Z jasom: sorry
2016-06-16T19:02:49Z jasom: if you (setf *random-state* (make-random-state t)) it will shuffle it
2016-06-16T19:05:38Z paule32: yes, indeed
2016-06-16T19:05:41Z paule32: thank you
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2016-06-16T20:05:09Z peey: For quicklisp, does my .asd file need to have the same name as the system?
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2016-06-16T20:08:26Z akkad: no
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2016-06-16T20:09:13Z peey: Thanks
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2016-06-16T20:26:33Z jasom: peey: you can even have multiple systems in a single .asd file
2016-06-16T20:27:13Z jasom: though they should ideally be closely related (e.g. same library with added optional features, testing, &ct.)
2016-06-16T20:27:46Z peey: I saw this in another library. Why would someone have an asd file for their test file?
2016-06-16T20:28:25Z peey: Unless it's part of a larger system and they expect it to be loaded. Answered my own ques lol.
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2016-06-16T20:29:42Z peey: Does asdf search through all .asd files in the "central registry"? I'm having a little trouble finding my newly written system with asdf load system
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2016-06-16T20:30:23Z peey: All nested directories and subdirectories
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2016-06-16T20:57:34Z Grue`: peey: on the contrary, the purpose of tests being in another asd system is to be able to *not* load test code into your image when you just load your main system
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2016-06-16T20:59:52Z Grue`: asdf:*central-registry* is an ancient thing and you shouldn't be using it
2016-06-16T21:00:13Z Grue`: see https://common-lisp.net/project/asdf/asdf.html#Configuring-ASDF-to-find-your-systems
2016-06-16T21:00:36Z Grue`: for how to configure asdf to search in subdirectories of some path
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2016-06-16T21:17:23Z Xach: asdf:*central-registry* is one of the easiest options
2016-06-16T21:17:37Z Xach: most other options are harder to learn how to use.
2016-06-16T21:18:18Z therik: muhahahaaaaaaaa YES, CL side is ready... now let's fix streams in nodejs
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2016-06-16T21:21:00Z therik: probably no big deal for most of you, but i'm very proud of myself :) first time working with threads, first time with nodejs, first time with unix sockets..
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2016-06-16T21:31:02Z Grue`: how is adding *symlinks* to every single asdf system to a specific directory easy in any shape of form?
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2016-06-16T21:35:02Z PuercoPop: Grue`: for one, *central-registry* allows the user to inspect which paths are going to be searched
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2016-06-16T21:36:43Z PuercoPop: (I use source-registry.conf.d but the current asdf mantainer prefer's central-registry, there is nothing wrong with using it
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2016-06-16T21:42:06Z Grue`: it seemed archaic even when I started using Lisp like 12 years ago
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2016-06-16T22:17:22Z jasom:  the easiest on *nix is to just put everything you want it to find in ~/common-lisp; it searches all subdirectories of that if you don't tell it otherwise
2016-06-16T22:17:50Z jasom: note that whether or not symlinks to directories are followed is implementation dependent
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2016-06-16T23:37:53Z therik: ok, i'm getting Unhandled memory fault at #x7FFF00000014.Unhandled memory fault at #x7FFF00000014...
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