2015-02-11T00:00:14Z mischief: haha. now i need car to implement cond. yay 2015-02-11T00:00:30Z kephra: I guess, I have to walk there for a coffee - to pester Michael Stoll (clisp) 2015-02-11T00:00:51Z vaporatorius quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T00:00:53Z profess quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-02-11T00:01:30Z kephra: ... well he is at the math faculty - and I founded the computing lab for applied math an visualization there (a bridge between CS and math - cluster computing and the like) 2015-02-11T00:04:04Z dafunktion joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:08:08Z antgreen joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:09:14Z yrdz quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-02-11T00:09:16Z Xach: I don't think he has been involved with clisp for a long time 2015-02-11T00:09:32Z yrdz` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:09:58Z Ethan- joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:10:17Z yrdz` quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T00:10:51Z ruste quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T00:11:03Z kephra: he is likely not teaching lisp at the math department 2015-02-11T00:11:28Z ruste joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:11:35Z smull quit (Quit: leaving) 2015-02-11T00:12:50Z kephra: currently my memories play games. I think some Israeli guy was clisp lead dev 10 years ago - but I can not remember his name, even if he was on irc at that time 2015-02-11T00:12:53Z smull joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:13:23Z quasisane joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:13:28Z bgs100 joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:14:24Z kephra: you had been here 10 years ago, Xach ;-) 2015-02-11T00:20:13Z Xach: bruno haible is still active 2015-02-11T00:21:21Z Longlius joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:21:46Z dafunktion quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T00:23:34Z Pyridrym quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T00:23:52Z vsync_ joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:24:53Z Pyridrym joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:26:37Z attila_lendvai quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2015-02-11T00:29:19Z attila_lendvai joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:29:19Z attila_lendvai quit (Changing host) 2015-02-11T00:29:19Z attila_lendvai joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:30:03Z manuel__ joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:31:11Z mischief: haha damnit 2015-02-11T00:31:12Z attila_lendvai quit (Client Quit) 2015-02-11T00:31:16Z mischief: unbound symbol cond 2015-02-11T00:34:17Z theseb joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:34:32Z dtm` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:37:05Z dtm` quit (Client Quit) 2015-02-11T00:37:24Z k-dawg joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:38:11Z urandom__ quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2015-02-11T00:41:56Z Big_G: How is Haskell actually pronounced? 2015-02-11T00:43:03Z Bicyclidine: /ˈhæskəl/. off topic 2015-02-11T00:44:53Z Ober joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:45:08Z Big_G: Bicyclidine, Sorry. Wrong channel 2015-02-11T00:47:01Z jasom: æ looks really ugly in my font 2015-02-11T00:48:31Z Bicyclidine: the schwa is giant for me. doesn't fit very well with the other characters. 2015-02-11T00:49:23Z kons joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:49:55Z kephra: Xach, but bruno was not on freenode, or? 2015-02-11T00:52:10Z meiji11 joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:52:39Z dafunktion joined #lisp 2015-02-11T00:53:23Z harish quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2015-02-11T00:57:07Z Bicyclidine quit (Quit: leaving) 2015-02-11T00:57:51Z ebrasca: Me name is Bruno Cichon 2015-02-11T00:59:09Z profess joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:01:02Z ebrasca: Xach: are you speaking about me? 2015-02-11T01:07:46Z Xach: ebrasca: no. 2015-02-11T01:09:09Z dafunktion quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-02-11T01:09:57Z mischief: i run out of memory computing the 100th fibnonacci number :c 2015-02-11T01:11:51Z vdamewood quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2015-02-11T01:17:18Z Big_G quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T01:17:58Z pjb: - 2015-02-11T01:18:37Z MrWoohoo joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:20:11Z Pyridrym quit (Quit: leaving) 2015-02-11T01:21:32Z k-dawg quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2015-02-11T01:23:49Z cpc26 joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:24:19Z heurist` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:25:37Z cpc26_ quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-02-11T01:26:10Z J_4096 quit (Quit: leaving) 2015-02-11T01:26:29Z heurist quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-02-11T01:29:50Z edgar-rft joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:30:59Z emaczen joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:31:07Z emaczen: hey guys 2015-02-11T01:32:17Z Xach: Was ist los? 2015-02-11T01:32:21Z emaczen: I'm having issues with getting common lisp connected to mysql 2015-02-11T01:32:23Z emaczen: I was unable to install clsql-mysql via quicklisp 2015-02-11T01:32:23Z emaczen: with cl-mysql I can't seem to execute a query 2015-02-11T01:33:08Z emaczen quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T01:33:32Z emaczen joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:33:42Z Xach: qmynd is the other mysql library that i know of 2015-02-11T01:34:17Z emaczen: I think my internet just bugged out. 2015-02-11T01:34:24Z emaczen: All I can see is Xach's message 2015-02-11T01:34:49Z emaczen: Has anyone used cl-mysql ? 2015-02-11T01:37:14Z Pyridrym joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:37:26Z echo-area joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:37:29Z Mon_Ouie quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-02-11T01:38:03Z sheilong joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:39:29Z Xach hasn't 2015-02-11T01:41:41Z protist just emailed Peter Herth about ltk's brace escaping issues 2015-02-11T01:45:54Z echo-area quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T01:46:40Z echo-area joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:48:36Z innertracks joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:48:58Z emaczen: minion: quicklisp 2015-02-11T01:48:58Z minion: quicklisp: No definition was found in the first 5 lines of http://www.cliki.net/quicklisp 2015-02-11T01:50:43Z newline1 joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:51:16Z GuilOooo quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-02-11T01:51:46Z emaczen: What does this mean: [Condition of type ASDF/BACKWARD-INTERFACE:OPERATION-ERROR] 2015-02-11T01:54:08Z Xach: emaczen: i don't know. did it print more above that? 2015-02-11T01:56:02Z Longlius quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-02-11T01:57:39Z Karl_Dscc quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T01:57:59Z emaczen: Xach: yeah I'll try to recreate it in a second 2015-02-11T01:58:31Z Longlius joined #lisp 2015-02-11T01:58:57Z ynniv quit (Quit: ynniv) 2015-02-11T01:59:53Z emaczen: Xach: OPERATION-ERROR while invoking # on 2015-02-11T01:59:54Z emaczen: # 2015-02-11T01:59:54Z emaczen: [Condition of type ASDF/BACKWARD-INTERFACE:OPERATION-ERROR] 2015-02-11T02:03:28Z badkins quit 2015-02-11T02:06:37Z newline1 left #lisp 2015-02-11T02:08:05Z MrWoohoo quit (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]) 2015-02-11T02:10:54Z GuilOooo joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:14:44Z harish joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:17:36Z brkpnt_ joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:18:14Z Xach: that that sometimes means it can't compile something with the c compiler 2015-02-11T02:18:41Z emaczen: I'll check my gcc version 2015-02-11T02:18:56Z emaczen: I have 4.6.3 2015-02-11T02:23:24Z pjb: emaczen: wouldn't you prefer to use Postgres? Mysql has so many problems… 2015-02-11T02:23:39Z ruste quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T02:24:10Z ruste joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:32:22Z nsjph joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:33:29Z emaczen: pjb: I could convert a database I already have in mysql ... 2015-02-11T02:34:26Z pjb: https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/How_to_make_a_proper_migration_from_MySQL_to_PostgreSQL 2015-02-11T02:35:28Z mordocai joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:37:13Z seg joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:39:20Z kyl_______ is now known as kyl` 2015-02-11T02:43:40Z warweasle joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:49:15Z Guest7_ joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:49:39Z emaczen: pjb: wil mysqldump work? 2015-02-11T02:49:43Z emaczen: I don't think so 2015-02-11T02:50:08Z brkpnt_ quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T02:51:26Z yrk joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:51:31Z johann joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:51:57Z yrk quit (Changing host) 2015-02-11T02:51:57Z yrk joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:53:19Z dafunktion joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:54:14Z pjb: There are tools to convert. 2015-02-11T02:54:56Z yrk quit (Client Quit) 2015-02-11T02:56:32Z johann quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2015-02-11T02:57:17Z hagiri joined #lisp 2015-02-11T02:57:36Z akkad: unlink(2) comes to mind 2015-02-11T02:57:52Z dafunktion quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2015-02-11T02:59:24Z Guest7_ quit (Max SendQ exceeded) 2015-02-11T03:01:37Z stardiviner quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-02-11T03:04:21Z EvW quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-02-11T03:05:50Z zRecursive joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:05:55Z zRecursive left #lisp 2015-02-11T03:07:05Z loke: Any of the SLIME developers ever hang out here? 2015-02-11T03:07:30Z protist: what is the best gtk binding for Common Lisp? 2015-02-11T03:08:38Z loke: protist: There are only two, right? 2015-02-11T03:09:12Z Guest89653 quit (Quit: Lost terminal) 2015-02-11T03:09:25Z protist: my interface is getting pretty nifty...but I am starting to get annoyed with some escaping issues in ltk: http://imgur.com/1M9Bh3z 2015-02-11T03:09:27Z protist: loke: idk 2015-02-11T03:09:58Z loke: I played around with cl-gtk2 some years ago. Looks simple enought ot me 2015-02-11T03:10:12Z protist: what about lambda-gtk? 2015-02-11T03:10:14Z protist: I don't OOP 2015-02-11T03:10:50Z emaczen quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T03:12:21Z nyef: protist: Have you considered McCLIM instead of a set of GTK bindings? 2015-02-11T03:12:27Z akkad: gtk is C not CPP 2015-02-11T03:12:49Z protist: akkad: figured it has an OOP interface 2015-02-11T03:12:57Z protist: akkad: on the lisp side 2015-02-11T03:14:00Z stardiviner joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:14:52Z Guest62464 joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:16:53Z Xach: One option is to start OOPing. 2015-02-11T03:17:18Z beach joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:17:25Z beach: Good morning everyone! 2015-02-11T03:17:47Z Guest7 joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:18:55Z Guest7 quit (Client Quit) 2015-02-11T03:19:28Z theseb quit (Quit: Leaving) 2015-02-11T03:19:38Z Guest7 joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:20:55Z nisstyre quit (Changing host) 2015-02-11T03:20:55Z nisstyre joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:21:53Z ehaliewicz quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-02-11T03:22:37Z Denommus quit (Quit: going home) 2015-02-11T03:23:39Z pillton: Good morning beach. 2015-02-11T03:23:43Z nyef: Hello beach. 2015-02-11T03:27:36Z ruste quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T03:29:43Z ruste joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:30:20Z mordocai quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-02-11T03:31:01Z kapil__ joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:31:38Z Guest7 quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) 2015-02-11T03:34:20Z Nashukray joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:34:24Z drmeister: Hi beach 2015-02-11T03:35:52Z beach: drmeister: I think your approach could be implemented by replacing the hoisting step by a similar but different one. 2015-02-11T03:36:23Z drmeister: Are you going to generalize the hoisting step? 2015-02-11T03:36:48Z mordocai joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:36:55Z nyef: ... Is a "petard" involved in this hoisting? 2015-02-11T03:37:13Z beach: What is a "petard"? 2015-02-11T03:37:27Z drmeister: It's like a spear 2015-02-11T03:37:28Z beach: drmeister: Generalize how? 2015-02-11T03:37:41Z Bike: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/hoist+with+own+petard 2015-02-11T03:38:17Z Bike: it's a siege bomb. kind of a weird idiom 2015-02-11T03:38:31Z beach: Got it. Thanks Bike. 2015-02-11T03:39:05Z drmeister: Well, I haven't looked at the hoisting code but could you use generic functions so that I could implement a method to generate constant and load-time-value accesses? 2015-02-11T03:39:24Z beach: I mix up my languages. In french a "petard" is a fire cracker or a joint. 2015-02-11T03:39:46Z beach: drmeister: Not worth it. The entire hoisting code is 10 lines. 2015-02-11T03:39:53Z Guest62464 quit (Quit: Leaving) 2015-02-11T03:39:56Z beach: drmeister: Just write your own version of it. 2015-02-11T03:40:05Z drmeister: And I misremembered what a petard is. 2015-02-11T03:41:00Z drmeister: I feel like we've had this conversation (hoisting by petards) on #lisp before and I made the same screwup. 2015-02-11T03:41:08Z Big_G joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:41:11Z drmeister: deja vu all over 2015-02-11T03:41:24Z drmeister: Ok, hoisting code is 10 lines. So I can write my own? 2015-02-11T03:41:32Z beach: Yes, easy. 2015-02-11T03:41:35Z drmeister: I can write 10 lines. 2015-02-11T03:42:04Z zacharias_ joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:42:44Z drmeister: Have you had a chance to fix the other problem re: The slot CLEAVIR-IR::%LAMBDA-LIST in the object a CLEAVIR-IR:TOP-LEVEL-ENTER-INSTRUCTION#<0x1118b6478> is unbound. 2015-02-11T03:42:57Z beach: drmeister: No, just woke up. 2015-02-11T03:43:03Z beach: I need the day to do that. 2015-02-11T03:43:11Z beach: Especially since I also have to work on my papers. 2015-02-11T03:43:17Z beach: The deadline is approaching. 2015-02-11T03:43:59Z mearnsh quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2015-02-11T03:44:06Z beach: drmeister: You can reuse the function for finding all the LOAD-TIME-VALUE-ASTs. Then the hoisting code is just 7 lines. 2015-02-11T03:44:55Z zacharias quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-02-11T03:45:14Z drmeister: This is all of the code that does the hoisting? 2015-02-11T03:45:18Z drmeister: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/KsIiaf0G 2015-02-11T03:45:37Z beach: Yes. 2015-02-11T03:47:40Z cibs quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T03:49:16Z drmeister: Hmmm 2015-02-11T03:49:16Z quazimodo quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-02-11T03:49:36Z drmeister: What does find-load-time-value-asts do? It finds the load-time-value-asts? That includes all constants as well? 2015-02-11T03:49:48Z beach: There are no constants anymore. 2015-02-11T03:50:17Z beach: So it, er, finds the LOAD-TIME-VALUE-ASTs. 2015-02-11T03:50:30Z mearnsh joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:50:48Z beach needs to come up with a more pertinent name for it. 2015-02-11T03:51:01Z drmeister: So much information - yet it seems like I knew this before. 2015-02-11T03:52:38Z beach: Knowing and having been told are two different things. 2015-02-11T03:53:25Z drmeister: So the (mapcar #'cleavir-ast:form load-time-value-asts) recovers the form for each of the ast nodes. 2015-02-11T03:53:35Z capcar quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1) 2015-02-11T03:54:03Z mordocai quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-02-11T03:54:06Z dafunktion joined #lisp 2015-02-11T03:54:14Z drmeister: How does the gensym get associated with the form? 2015-02-11T03:55:19Z beach: The gensym is just the name used for the LEXICAL-AST that replaces the LOAD-TIME-VALUE-AST. 2015-02-11T03:56:07Z drmeister: I see that the ast node gets changed to a cleavir-ast:lexical-ast with the :name (gensym). But the lambda list in the top-level-enter-instruction needs the gensym as well doesn't it? Where does that get set up? 2015-02-11T03:56:36Z beach: No, the lambda-list does not have symbols in it. It has LEXICAL-ASTs 2015-02-11T03:57:20Z drmeister: Ah and each lexical-ast has the gensym name 2015-02-11T03:57:35Z beach: the variable LOAD-TIME-VALUE-ASTS used to be a list of LOAD-TIME-VALUE-ASTs, but after the CHANGE-CLASS, it is now a list of LEXICAL-ASTs. 2015-02-11T03:58:16Z beach: Yes, the gensym is just the name used for the LEXICAL-AST that replaces the LOAD-TIME-VALUE-AST. 2015-02-11T03:58:34Z dafunktion quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2015-02-11T03:58:56Z drmeister: Got it. 2015-02-11T03:59:36Z drmeister: I haven't seen these things in the dot graphs - so I don't know what's associated with what. 2015-02-11T04:00:15Z theos: hey 2015-02-11T04:00:49Z theos: anyone familiar with face/gesture recognition in CL? 2015-02-11T04:01:44Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-02-11T04:02:06Z K1rk quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-02-11T04:02:27Z pjb: theos: there's gesture recognition in garnet. 2015-02-11T04:02:57Z K1rk joined #lisp 2015-02-11T04:03:13Z theos: pjb i see. what about face recognition through webcams etc? 2015-02-11T04:03:21Z nyef: pjb: Why do I suspect that theos was asking about a different sort of gesture? 2015-02-11T04:03:34Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T04:03:36Z pjb: IIRC, something has been done using OpenCV from CL with FFI. 2015-02-11T04:03:59Z pjb: oh, right if you mean gesture as filmed with a camera, it's not garnet. 2015-02-11T04:04:35Z theos: nyef :D 2015-02-11T04:05:01Z ASau quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T04:06:11Z theos: or, is there something that can identify the faces of users? face ID system etc 2015-02-11T04:06:17Z pjb: Oh it's cold in here. Please close the window. >click< 2015-02-11T04:06:30Z warweasle quit (Quit: The clowns will eat me...) 2015-02-11T04:07:11Z pjb: theos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_ytVKMqm-k 2015-02-11T04:07:45Z drmeister: beach: What does a lexical-ast represent? 2015-02-11T04:07:53Z bgs100 quit (Quit: bgs100) 2015-02-11T04:08:00Z beach: drmeister: A variable. 2015-02-11T04:08:14Z cibs joined #lisp 2015-02-11T04:08:15Z Nashukray quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) 2015-02-11T04:08:30Z theos: pjb aha! i totally forgot about opencv. thanks 2015-02-11T04:08:33Z drmeister: So what should I replace it with? A load-time-value-vector-lookup-ast? 2015-02-11T04:08:52Z Zhivago: Although opencv is kind of a pig. 2015-02-11T04:08:52Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2015-02-11T04:09:09Z beach: drmeister: There should already be ASTs for array lookup. 2015-02-11T04:09:14Z pjb: You can always use it to prototype, and later rewrite it in CL. 2015-02-11T04:09:46Z beach: drmeister: Cleavir/Abstract-syntax-tree/array-related-asts.lisp 2015-02-11T04:09:56Z yrdz joined #lisp 2015-02-11T04:10:44Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T04:12:12Z drmeister: This one is currently kind of special but I might be able to generalize it to use the regular array lookup stuff. 2015-02-11T04:12:32Z drmeister: I need to think on this - it's a lot of new stuff to think about. 2015-02-11T04:12:45Z beach: drmeister: Or, create your own AST class. 2015-02-11T04:14:14Z drmeister: Ok, well, I'm going to get some sleep - if you get a chance to fix the problem above - shoot me an email. 2015-02-11T04:14:26Z beach: OK. 2015-02-11T04:15:02Z bb010g joined #lisp 2015-02-11T04:16:09Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-02-11T04:16:41Z theos: Zhivago would you recommend something else? 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2015-02-11T05:28:01Z Vivitron joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:28:07Z mitzovar: count from one to 100 2015-02-11T05:28:23Z khisanth_ joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:28:48Z mitzovar: if number is divisible by 3 print fizz 2015-02-11T05:28:48Z mitzovar: if by 5 print buzz 2015-02-11T05:28:48Z mitzovar: if by both print fizzbuz 2015-02-11T05:28:48Z mitzovar: if none of above print the number 2015-02-11T05:29:27Z pranavrc joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:29:27Z pranavrc quit (Changing host) 2015-02-11T05:29:27Z pranavrc joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:29:37Z H4ns: use google. 2015-02-11T05:29:40Z mearnsh joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:29:52Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2015-02-11T05:30:22Z Khisanth quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2015-02-11T05:30:27Z gingerale joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:31:13Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:31:38Z beach: mitzovar: It isn't hard. You can do it. 2015-02-11T05:31:57Z mitzovar: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/FizzBuzz#Common_Lisp 2015-02-11T05:32:03Z mitzovar: nice 2015-02-11T05:32:29Z pjb: mitzovar: why do you _need_ a solution to the fizzbuzz problem? 2015-02-11T05:32:32Z mitzovar: I mean I am beginning to get programming, I mean prolog and lisp and haskell and smalltalk seem awesome 2015-02-11T05:32:41Z mitzovar: I was just asked it in a job int. 2015-02-11T05:32:50Z pjb: And? 2015-02-11T05:32:51Z mitzovar: I gave a solution in bash 2015-02-11T05:33:00Z pjb: That's good. 2015-02-11T05:33:19Z mitzovar: I wanted to see lisp, I guess its mostly the same, mod is 0 then print for three cases, then foirth print the # 2015-02-11T05:33:39Z mitzovar: I thought the lisp solution would be more recursive. 2015-02-11T05:33:52Z theos: iterative? 2015-02-11T05:33:55Z pjb: It's always possible to introduce recursion. 2015-02-11T05:33:59Z mitzovar: I have a copy of let over lambda but wana read gentle intro first 2015-02-11T05:34:13Z mitzovar: I also have a copy of amop 2015-02-11T05:34:18Z beach: mitzovar: Why did you think it would be recursive. 2015-02-11T05:34:36Z mitzovar: well like start at one, then check, then add one and recurse 2015-02-11T05:34:42Z mitzovar: until 100 2015-02-11T05:34:48Z beach: Why on earth would you do that? 2015-02-11T05:34:50Z mitzovar: as maybe a 5th condition 2015-02-11T05:34:55Z mitzovar: I duno 2015-02-11T05:35:02Z mitzovar: seemed a good idea or something 2015-02-11T05:35:16Z mitzovar: I thought lisp was about recursion more than loops 2015-02-11T05:35:23Z pjb: Nope. 2015-02-11T05:35:25Z beach: You thought wrong. 2015-02-11T05:35:38Z mitzovar: although I have heard of the loop macro and even a improved loop macro or something 2015-02-11T05:35:45Z mitzovar: I think long a lot 2015-02-11T05:35:54Z mitzovar: I do try and update my thinking 2015-02-11T05:36:14Z mitzovar: like for example I was trying to get in shape with hit short workouts 2015-02-11T05:36:14Z milosn quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-02-11T05:36:24Z mitzovar: and now I am going all in with volume to lose fat 2015-02-11T05:36:32Z mitzovar: since wilt and herschell did volume 2015-02-11T05:37:33Z milosn joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:37:52Z kirin` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T05:38:00Z mitzovar: my dad gave me a copy of winston and horn 2015-02-11T05:38:05Z mitzovar: hes had for liek a long time 2015-02-11T05:38:10Z pjb: You have a great dad. 2015-02-11T05:38:13Z mitzovar: 2nd ed! 2015-02-11T05:38:17Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:38:23Z mitzovar: he didnt get too into lisp 2015-02-11T05:38:29Z mitzovar: was ee rocket radar guy 2015-02-11T05:38:48Z mitzovar: I have always dreamed of making a lisp powered website 2015-02-11T05:40:53Z theos: there is a 3rd ed too 2015-02-11T05:42:54Z dafunktion joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:43:24Z protist: cl-cffi-gtk really isn't any more annoying to use than ltk 2015-02-11T05:43:38Z protist: my application doesn't look as pretty by default...but it seems more powerful 2015-02-11T05:44:24Z mitzovar: I think I had a 3rd ed, huge paperback, huge!! and I ripped some pages out to read in the gym, and then I was mad at myself like wtf was I thinking. 2015-02-11T05:44:31Z protist: mitzovar: check out the stuff by edi weitz if you want to do web stuff 2015-02-11T05:44:40Z protist: mitzovar: hunchentoot 2015-02-11T05:45:05Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-02-11T05:45:07Z protist: mitzovar: better a damaged book than an unread one 2015-02-11T05:45:09Z mitzovar: have map and reduce that hadoop and google n people with big data use been around for a long time in lisp? 2015-02-11T05:45:15Z protist: mitzovar: that said I am very anal about my books 2015-02-11T05:45:30Z mitzovar: its unread and damaged 2015-02-11T05:45:34Z mitzovar: I kinda pussed out 2015-02-11T05:45:37Z mitzovar: didnt finish it 2015-02-11T05:45:45Z mitzovar: so now im back to reading gentle intro 2015-02-11T05:45:47Z pranavrc quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-02-11T05:45:48Z protist: mitzovar: I didn't mean un-finished 2015-02-11T05:45:51Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:45:54Z mitzovar: lisp just fits nicely my brain 2015-02-11T05:45:54Z ynniv quit (Quit: ynniv) 2015-02-11T05:45:56Z protist: mitzovar: you got more read by damaging it 2015-02-11T05:45:58Z mitzovar: seems so convenient 2015-02-11T05:46:06Z mitzovar: lol 2015-02-11T05:46:11Z mitzovar: yeah i kinda did 2015-02-11T05:46:29Z mitzovar: ansi common lisp by graham kicked my ass 2015-02-11T05:47:14Z protist: mitzovar: as far as the fizzbuzz thing....I usually prefer map, reduce, and friends to recursion 2015-02-11T05:47:17Z mitzovar: the format function looks all weird and seems to use {} and "" and non () 2015-02-11T05:47:37Z protist: mitzovar: format is weird 2015-02-11T05:47:45Z protist: mitzovar: it is basically another language 2015-02-11T05:47:46Z innertracks quit (Quit: innertracks) 2015-02-11T05:47:49Z mitzovar: is format just an exception to the like s expression norm? for some reason? 2015-02-11T05:47:58Z dafunktion quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-02-11T05:48:31Z protist: mitzovar: decalarative programming is powerful in certain domains...format is a DSL (in a fashion) 2015-02-11T05:48:37Z protist: mitzovar: just like regexes 2015-02-11T05:48:44Z mitzovar: with a decent size box can hunchentoot serve 1000s of requests/second? 2015-02-11T05:48:45Z pranavrc joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:49:07Z protist: mitzovar: no idea....if you get to that kind of traffic, then you can just hire someone else to fix it hahaha 2015-02-11T05:49:21Z Pyridrym quit (Quit: leaving) 2015-02-11T05:50:00Z protist: if anyone is interested...the latest screenshots from my APL interpreter (written in Lisp) http://i.imgur.com/1M9Bh3z.jpg 2015-02-11T05:50:20Z protist: I'm rewriting the gui in cl-cffi-gtk, though 2015-02-11T05:51:13Z mitzovar: lol 2015-02-11T05:51:15Z protist: the little program there is untested and doesn't run in my APL yet...was just playing 2015-02-11T05:51:30Z mitzovar: apl has a very short fizzbuzz solution 2015-02-11T05:51:36Z protist: of course 2015-02-11T05:51:38Z mitzovar: apl is kinda fascinating too 2015-02-11T05:51:54Z mitzovar: I couldnt find a free apl interpreter 2015-02-11T05:52:01Z protist: what keeps more people from exploring it is the characterset...and that it scares some people 2015-02-11T05:52:08Z protist: I think the gui will help with that 2015-02-11T05:52:14Z mitzovar: I heard they used to have contests for apl not in lowest number of lines of code 2015-02-11T05:52:17Z protist: and having it interface with Common Lisp will help as well 2015-02-11T05:52:18Z mitzovar: but the shortest 1 line 2015-02-11T05:52:32Z protist: that is popular in many languages 2015-02-11T05:52:43Z mitzovar: well why do apl if you can just do lisp? 2015-02-11T05:52:45Z protist: check out "code golf" 2015-02-11T05:52:54Z protist: there are things that APL is better at 2015-02-11T05:52:57Z kirin` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T05:53:20Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:53:24Z protist: mostly math scenarios 2015-02-11T05:53:30Z protist: especially exploratory math 2015-02-11T05:53:58Z protist: and since my APL is written in Lisp...I can mix them 2015-02-11T05:54:22Z protist: (apl-defun copy-matrix (|m|) "m[⍳⍴m]") 2015-02-11T05:55:10Z jlongster joined #lisp 2015-02-11T05:55:29Z protist: (map 'vector (apl-fun (|x|) "x*⍳10") #(2 3 4)) 2015-02-11T05:55:48Z pillton: theos: What do you want to do with the face? Geometry or identification? 2015-02-11T05:56:10Z theos: pillton everything 2015-02-11T05:56:23Z pillton: Well they are two different problems. 2015-02-11T05:56:39Z theos: pillton identification is the primary goal. other things can wait 2015-02-11T05:57:05Z pillton: I don't know anything to do with identification. Geometry I do. 2015-02-11T05:57:10Z theos: :S 2015-02-11T05:57:14Z mitzovar: I read that many business apps can be more numerical, like saving data space, and making processing faster 2015-02-11T05:57:27Z mitzovar: like I was talking to the firebirdDB people 2015-02-11T05:57:55Z mitzovar: and they told me of a manufacturing app that was very numerical in its processing and was 1/10 the size of competitors database 2015-02-11T05:58:25Z theos: pillton what applications does geometry have? 2015-02-11T06:00:07Z kirin` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T06:00:19Z pillton: Heaps. Visual speech recognition, expression transfer, expression detection, emotion recognition... and so on. 2015-02-11T06:00:30Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:00:41Z pillton thinks this is off topic though. 2015-02-11T06:04:12Z drmeister quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-02-11T06:04:37Z drmeister joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:05:19Z gluegadget quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-02-11T06:07:32Z gluegadget joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:07:43Z kirin` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T06:08:06Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:10:35Z manuel__ quit (Quit: manuel__) 2015-02-11T06:13:57Z zacharias_ quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-02-11T06:14:51Z kirin` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T06:15:14Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:15:51Z mitzovar: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/FizzBuzz#Scheme the scheme fizzbuzz shows a recursive procedure like I had envisioned 2015-02-11T06:17:14Z pjb: mitzovar: this has no interest, any iteration can trivially be transformed into a recursion. 2015-02-11T06:19:31Z mitzovar: oh 2015-02-11T06:20:18Z mitzovar: what do you think about cl-prevayler? as a replacement for postgresql? 2015-02-11T06:20:45Z mitzovar: www.hypertable.org is interesting thing somewhat similar, but on n nodes, and using some idea called bigtable 2015-02-11T06:21:40Z mitzovar: data in ram, and updates logged to a file before updating image state 2015-02-11T06:21:43Z rhllor joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:21:47Z mitzovar: mi fascinated by this 2015-02-11T06:23:19Z kirin` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T06:23:24Z DeadTrickster quit (Read error: No route to host) 2015-02-11T06:23:43Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:23:58Z DeadTrickster joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:25:02Z pocket joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:25:14Z pjb: Yes, this is a nice optimization. 2015-02-11T06:25:29Z pocket_ joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:25:38Z pocket quit (Client Quit) 2015-02-11T06:25:44Z beach: mitzovar: https://github.com/robert-strandh/Clobber is an alternative to usual prevalence. 2015-02-11T06:25:48Z pocket_ quit (Client Quit) 2015-02-11T06:26:02Z pocket joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:27:42Z theos: hmm facial expression recognition is good too 2015-02-11T06:28:33Z Zhivago: You could generate a histogram of the expressions people use when programming in lisp. 2015-02-11T06:28:46Z Zhivago: They could range from constipated to pensive. 2015-02-11T06:29:29Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-02-11T06:30:09Z pillton: Wouldn't it be concentration rather than boredom? 2015-02-11T06:30:56Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:31:01Z Zhivago: Where did boredom come into it? 2015-02-11T06:31:54Z theos: is there a native CL lib that can do that? 2015-02-11T06:32:18Z pillton: Oh, sorry. I misread your sentence. 2015-02-11T06:33:02Z mitzovar: woa coool 2015-02-11T06:33:22Z mitzovar: what is a good typing tutor free software? 2015-02-11T06:33:33Z mitzovar: it's time I learned to type fast 2015-02-11T06:34:07Z mitzovar: oh wait emacs has one no? 2015-02-11T06:34:11Z Zhivago: irc. 2015-02-11T06:34:20Z mitzovar: lol 2015-02-11T06:34:35Z johann quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T06:34:59Z gingerale quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-02-11T06:35:09Z johann joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:35:25Z pocket quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T06:36:08Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-02-11T06:37:42Z Harag joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:38:07Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:38:57Z karswell quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T06:39:22Z karswell` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:39:32Z nsjph: irc is a great typing speed tutor 2015-02-11T06:39:33Z johann quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-02-11T06:39:46Z nsjph: alas, less so for grammar 2015-02-11T06:41:58Z salva quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-02-11T06:42:24Z radioninja joined #lisp 2015-02-11T06:43:22Z theos: users provide good feedback for grammar though. 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When, and why? 2015-02-11T09:37:09Z H4ns: loke: April 29, 2015-02-11T09:37:32Z H4ns: loke: no, March 29 through April 11 2015-02-11T09:37:36Z radioninja quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-02-11T09:39:27Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2015-02-11T09:39:58Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T09:42:03Z JuanDaugherty joined #lisp 2015-02-11T09:45:24Z gingerale joined #lisp 2015-02-11T09:46:26Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-02-11T09:47:37Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T09:51:01Z salv0 joined #lisp 2015-02-11T09:54:17Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2015-02-11T09:54:47Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T09:55:02Z loke: Oh, you'll arive a week after I leave 2015-02-11T09:55:06Z loke: So no overlap 2015-02-11T09:55:36Z H4ns: bummer. 2015-02-11T09:57:01Z MutSbeta joined #lisp 2015-02-11T09:58:56Z JuanDaugherty quit (Quit: Hibernate, etc.) 2015-02-11T10:00:56Z intinig joined #lisp 2015-02-11T10:00:59Z psy_ joined #lisp 2015-02-11T10:01:03Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 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There's a switch to leave the dross lying about, don't recall what it is. 2015-02-11T21:41:38Z munksgaard joined #lisp 2015-02-11T21:42:38Z lispyone_ quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T21:45:07Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-02-11T21:45:25Z taylanub: looks like the problem was that Guix runs make with -j set to >1 by default, and the Makefile isn't written with parallelism taken into count. adding --jobs=1 to make arguments in the package recipe fixed the issue :) 2015-02-11T21:45:53Z askatasuna quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1) 2015-02-11T21:46:07Z taylanub: I should probably send in a bug report to ECL 2015-02-11T21:46:14Z Longlius quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T21:46:27Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T21:46:28Z Bicyclidine: isn't ecl unmaintained now 2015-02-11T21:47:02Z taylanub: ugh, there's already a bug report for this issue anyway 2015-02-11T21:47:34Z taylanub: oh but that's from 2009 and supposedly closed, so it must have been reintroduced 2015-02-11T21:47:55Z taylanub: oh, closed because "We do not support parallel builds of ECL." 2015-02-11T21:48:16Z taylanub: wonder if a Makefile can't declare that limitation?.. w/e 2015-02-11T21:48:59Z lispyone joined #lisp 2015-02-11T21:49:04Z EvW quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-02-11T21:49:23Z BRPocock: There isn't a "full-time maintainer" but the listserv is pretty helpful. 2015-02-11T21:49:37Z BRPocock: ecls-list@lists.sourceforge.net 2015-02-11T21:51:54Z innertracks joined #lisp 2015-02-11T21:52:17Z BRPocock: Nifty: You can inhibit parallelism in a particular makefile with the `.NOTPARALLEL' pseudo-target (*note Special Built-in Target Names: Special Targets.). 2015-02-11T21:52:52Z hiroakip quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-02-11T21:53:03Z fragamus joined #lisp 2015-02-11T21:53:44Z kirin` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T21:54:07Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T21:55:46Z ahungry quit (Quit: leaving) 2015-02-11T21:56:18Z josemanuel joined #lisp 2015-02-11T21:57:22Z zett_zelett joined #lisp 2015-02-11T21:58:40Z zett_zelett: Hi, I have an exam on λ calculus tomorrow including stuff about LISP – would it be too impolite to misuse this channel for some questions on M-expressions/S-expressions and similar things? 2015-02-11T22:01:06Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-02-11T22:01:47Z Xach: yes. 2015-02-11T22:02:05Z Xach: If you have a question about Common Lisp, feel free to ask. 2015-02-11T22:02:28Z Xach: I personally strongly dislike questions related to short-term homework/exam problems but really enjoy long term learning projects. 2015-02-11T22:02:56Z nell quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.2-dev) 2015-02-11T22:03:01Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:03:54Z mmathers: first off Lambda is from Lahmed. Which is a Cattle Prod. The primary tool forcing people and beasts to do something hard, like Calculus 2015-02-11T22:04:09Z Xach: stack overflow seems more amenable to context-free Q&A. 2015-02-11T22:04:10Z EvW joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:04:23Z akkad: and #clnoobs 2015-02-11T22:05:23Z fridim_ quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2015-02-11T22:07:02Z gendl joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:07:03Z monod quit (Quit: Sto andando via) 2015-02-11T22:07:23Z hiroakip joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:08:38Z ehu quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2015-02-11T22:10:01Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-02-11T22:10:16Z lispyone quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T22:10:27Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:13:03Z josemanuel quit (Quit: Saliendo) 2015-02-11T22:14:23Z Joreji joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:15:18Z mmathers: yeah. what Xach said. We are just here to stroke each others neckbeards. 2015-02-11T22:16:11Z Xach: mmathers: If you like helping people who do not want to actually learn Lisp, feel free to do it via private messages. 2015-02-11T22:17:19Z kuzy000_ quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2015-02-11T22:17:29Z akkad: :D 2015-02-11T22:17:35Z kirin` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T22:17:46Z lispyone joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:17:58Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:18:34Z badkins quit 2015-02-11T22:18:40Z decent: I want to learn lisp! 2015-02-11T22:19:08Z Fare quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2015-02-11T22:19:09Z ehu joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:22:10Z Joreji quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T22:24:28Z ebrasca: decent: http://www.cliki.net/Getting%20Started 2015-02-11T22:24:51Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-02-11T22:25:14Z zacts joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:25:36Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:25:42Z eudoxia quit (Quit: Leaving) 2015-02-11T22:25:44Z BRPocock: random (but I see Xach is maybe alive): Any way to query ASDF for packages created by a System load? — (asdf:find-packages-touched (asdf:find-package foo)) … (seems the answer is "no?") 2015-02-11T22:26:14Z decent: ebrasca: thanks. :) 2015-02-11T22:26:24Z Xach: BRPocock: not exactly. 2015-02-11T22:26:41Z Xach: BRPocock: you can use (list-all-packages) before and after and find the difference easily enough 2015-02-11T22:27:01Z Xach: BRPocock: the problem (for me) is that approach is not very fine-grained. 2015-02-11T22:27:17Z Xach: that is, loading A might load B, C, and D, and you're really only interested in A's packages. 2015-02-11T22:28:00Z BRPocock: yeah, and I'm looking post-mortem :-) 2015-02-11T22:28:03Z wheelsucker quit (Quit: Client Quit) 2015-02-11T22:28:33Z zett_zelett: Who said I don’t want to actually learn LISP? 2015-02-11T22:28:55Z BRPocock: For an autodoc system. My answer is probably parsing the ASD, recursing over sources, READ'ing and finding DEFPACKAGE forms and just hope nobody has too fancy a macro wrapped around them. 2015-02-11T22:29:09Z Xach: zett_zelett: the words "misuse" and "tomorrow" suggested it to me. 2015-02-11T22:29:09Z zett_zelett: Just because I got time management issues doesn’t mean I’m not actually interested! 2015-02-11T22:30:01Z Xach: BRPocock: i had an idea about using the introspection tools of the implementation that say "package xyz is defined in source file abc" and matching up system definition pathnames to them 2015-02-11T22:31:40Z Bicyclidine: well, lambda calculus doesn't have to do a whole lot with programming. presumably you'd learn about church-rosser and such rather than how to print factorials 2015-02-11T22:32:07Z BRPocock: +1 thanks, that's a much better idea. 2015-02-11T22:32:34Z kirin` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T22:32:58Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:34:20Z jtza8 joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:36:58Z EvW quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T22:37:08Z EvW joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:38:25Z zadock quit (Quit: Leaving) 2015-02-11T22:39:49Z kirin` quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-02-11T22:40:44Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:41:14Z innertracks quit (Quit: innertracks) 2015-02-11T22:42:04Z juanlas quit (Quit: juanlas) 2015-02-11T22:43:03Z taylanub: yeah, LC is basically just lexical scoping / first-class closures. that's fundamental/essential to the language semantics of course, which is significant, but also, well, fundamental. 2015-02-11T22:43:05Z munksgaard quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2015-02-11T22:43:33Z nell joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:44:17Z LiamH quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2015-02-11T22:47:24Z mrSpec quit (Quit: mrSpec) 2015-02-11T22:47:52Z kirin` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-11T22:48:16Z kirin` joined #lisp 2015-02-11T22:50:36Z manuel__ quit (Quit: manuel__) 2015-02-11T22:52:46Z lispyone quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-11T22:53:28Z nell quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.2-dev) 2015-02-11T22:54:19Z jasom: wow, I have a follwer that doesn't appear to be a spam account. 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