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2014-12-05T01:29:19Z drmeister: I'm working on getting swank working.  Does anyone have any tips?
2014-12-05T01:29:42Z drmeister: I can load swank-loader.lisp without it complaining.  I've added #+clasp specific forms.
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2014-12-05T01:44:33Z kurakot: is there an existing algorithm implementing Natural Sort Order in common lisp?
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2014-12-05T01:49:05Z pillton: Sorting can be performed with SORT. What you need is a natural order predicate. What is the natural order?
2014-12-05T01:49:14Z jasom: kurakot: the closest built-in function is string-lessp
2014-12-05T01:50:16Z jasom: kurakot: however, that is still just a character-by-character comparison
2014-12-05T01:55:04Z l3thal: I had to write a sort function today. fun++
2014-12-05T01:55:23Z l3thal: ;D
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2014-12-05T02:05:40Z kurakot: jasom: i tried using string-lessp here
2014-12-05T02:05:41Z kurakot: http://paste.lisp.org/display/144586
2014-12-05T02:06:25Z kurakot: it does not work though -_-'
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2014-12-05T02:10:15Z drmeister: Does anyone know how to start swank?
2014-12-05T02:10:41Z pillton: SANKE:START-SERVER
2014-12-05T02:10:54Z pillton: err, SWANK:START-SERVER
2014-12-05T02:10:58Z drmeister: "clasp_boehm_o -l swank-loader.lisp"  doesn't actually run anything.  There is a swank-loader:init function.
2014-12-05T02:11:07Z drmeister: swank:start-server - got it.
2014-12-05T02:12:59Z drmeister: What do you load to start swank?   (load "swank-loader.lisp") loads fine but doesn't load "swank.lisp" as far as I can tell and that contains start-server
2014-12-05T02:13:20Z pillton: I use (asdf:load-system "swank")
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2014-12-05T02:15:51Z drmeister: Excellent, and I have ASDF working.
2014-12-05T02:18:51Z dlowe: Xach: local-time now also has a release branch
2014-12-05T02:18:53Z dlowe: and a new release
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2014-12-05T03:02:35Z nydel: how to read a line from input stream but such that the user doesn't see echo of the input, as when prompting for a password?
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2014-12-05T03:03:53Z pillton: I think that is a terminal issue.
2014-12-05T03:03:54Z Zhivago: In an implementation dependent fashion.
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2014-12-05T03:07:21Z nydel: yeah i can't quite figure out where to tackle it. say i've a socket open for connection and i use linux telnet to connect. my functions in my repl/daemonized process prompt for login with #'read-line and that's fine. but when i prompt for password i don't know exactly where to go about, say, temporarily disabling echo. or do i use something other than read-line? i'm a bit lost in all the different buffers and
2014-12-05T03:07:22Z nydel: streams.
2014-12-05T03:09:46Z nydel: i guess anytime i call #'read-line in all of this, the user's terminal is going to echo, and i just have to accept that. so where go i from there?
2014-12-05T03:10:02Z nydel: this can't be undoable i wouldn't suppose
2014-12-05T03:10:06Z pillton: The man page for telnet mentions something about LINEMODE.
2014-12-05T03:11:10Z nydel: pillton: oh you know what, i plan to write the client end myself in CL after i have the server working, i'm only using gnu/linux telnet for testing in the meantime. so maybe i worry about it then instead of now?
2014-12-05T03:11:53Z nydel: (i.e. such that you couldn't successfully connect with telnet and be prompted to login once things are done)
2014-12-05T03:13:33Z nydel: incidentally i'm not finding the flag to set LINEMODE for remote/local in the man
2014-12-05T03:15:49Z nydel: strike that, the server has to inform telnet of linemode support. now i /really/ don't know where to look up how that's done. telnet spec/rfc?
2014-12-05T03:16:27Z Xach: dlowe: yow
2014-12-05T03:18:39Z nydel: it's in here http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1184 somewhere i think. freaking tangential rabbit holes. gotta love them.
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2014-12-05T03:20:24Z beach: Good morning everyone!
2014-12-05T03:20:51Z nydel: (format stream-of-socket-thread "IAC WILL LINEMODE~%IAC DO LINEMODE~%")(force-output stream-of-socket-thread) seems to have started it up
2014-12-05T03:21:07Z nydel: howdy beach how are you?
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2014-12-05T03:21:48Z beach: nydel: Fine thanks.  Yourself?
2014-12-05T03:22:57Z nydel: beach: pretty well, navigating many specs of tcp/ip sub protocols, woo! what you up to?
2014-12-05T03:23:31Z beach: nydel: Mainly trying to help drmeister write a compiler.
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2014-12-05T03:23:58Z nydel: beach: compiles cl? to binary?
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2014-12-05T03:24:17Z beach: nydel: Ask him! :)
2014-12-05T03:24:39Z nydel: ha, well drmeister ?
2014-12-05T03:25:05Z beach: From the logs, I take it he is trying to get SWANK to work in Clasp (his Lisp system)
2014-12-05T03:25:55Z beach: His system integrates C++ and Common Lisp.
2014-12-05T03:25:59Z drmeister: Hello.
2014-12-05T03:26:52Z drmeister: minion tell nydel about clasp
2014-12-05T03:26:59Z drmeister: Darnit!
2014-12-05T03:27:06Z drmeister: minion: tell nydel about clasp
2014-12-05T03:27:07Z minion: nydel: clasp: An implementation of Common Lisp that interoperates smoothly with C++ and uses LLVM to generate native code
2014-12-05T03:27:07Z beach: minion: please tell nydel about clasp
2014-12-05T03:27:13Z drmeister: Yehaa
2014-12-05T03:27:24Z nydel: please do
2014-12-05T03:28:01Z beach: nydel, and my part in there is called Cleavir.
2014-12-05T03:28:12Z beach: minion: please tell nydel about Cleavir.
2014-12-05T03:28:12Z minion: nydel: Cleavir: A project to create an implementation-independent compilation framework for Common Lisp. Currently Cleavir is part of SICL, but that might change in the future
2014-12-05T03:28:38Z drmeister: Anyway nydel - yes, it's a new implementation of Common Lisp written from the ground up in C++ so it interoperates with C++ and allows one to expose C++ libraries easily within Common Lisp without using an FFI.
2014-12-05T03:29:02Z drmeister: It uses LLVM as the backend as a JIT and as an ahead-of-time compiler.
2014-12-05T03:30:02Z nydel: this sounds super fun. is the source-in-progress viewable on a git or something?
2014-12-05T03:30:23Z drmeister: beach: I was setting up *inferior-lisp* again (my laptop got wiped out a couple of weeks ago) and I got fed up and decided to bang at slime for a few hours.
2014-12-05T03:31:09Z beach: drmeister: Good choice.
2014-12-05T03:31:10Z drmeister: I got swank-loader.lisp to load and I'm seeing how far I can get with it this evening.  It would be way more fun to program in Clasp if I had slime.
2014-12-05T03:31:40Z drmeister: nydel: github.com/drmeister/clasp
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2014-12-05T03:32:25Z drmeister: Viewable, buildable, and runnable.
2014-12-05T03:34:25Z nydel having a look
2014-12-05T03:35:57Z jasom: kurakot: a true natural sort odering function may never have been written in any language
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2014-12-05T03:36:52Z nydel: wow yay this is really something! let me take a couple hours to read the source. there are 7 contributors listed, are they all active & is the project looking for more potentially?
2014-12-05T03:37:43Z nydel: not that i could or would be invited, i am betting this is just right in that over-my-head-but-should-follow-the-emails-during-dev section of things
2014-12-05T03:40:00Z nydel: i'm going to attempt a build on CentOS
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2014-12-05T03:47:10Z drmeister: nydel: I'm always interested in contributions.
2014-12-05T03:47:22Z drmeister: It's open source and everything that entails.
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2014-12-05T03:48:16Z drmeister: At this point I'm the primary contributor.  I've been working on it by myself (more or less) quietly for four years.   Beach and I are working together to integrate a new compiler front end to make it a lot faster.
2014-12-05T03:49:45Z drmeister: You could say we have parallel and enlightened self interests and complimentary interests and backgrounds.  I'm always looking for  more excellent collaborators.
2014-12-05T03:51:32Z drmeister: Question about slime - how does it implement its own debugger for a host Common Lisp?   It seems to me that a debugger is very low-level, implementation dependent functionality.
2014-12-05T03:52:00Z Zhivago: With implementation dependent bits.
2014-12-05T03:52:18Z beach: And probably some #+ and #-.
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2014-12-05T03:56:13Z drmeister: Ah, the answer to everything implementation dependent.
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2014-12-05T04:02:02Z beach: drmeister: How close is your system to ECL?  Perhaps there was an ECL implementation of SWANK that could be reused, at least partially?
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2014-12-05T04:02:37Z drmeister: Its pretty close in terms of the functionality.
2014-12-05T04:03:59Z drmeister: I did that.  I  cp ecl.lisp clasp.lisp   and then do a s/ecl/clasp/(carefully)    I don't want declare --> dclaspare
2014-12-05T04:04:38Z drmeister: Right now I got distracted trying to figure out why some of my stack frames have -unknown-file- for their source file.
2014-12-05T04:04:52Z drmeister: The joys of rolling your own Common Lisp.
2014-12-05T04:05:44Z beach: drmeister: What kind of contributions do you expect/solicit/need?
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2014-12-05T04:08:29Z drmeister: Well, that's tough to say - I don't expect or solicit anything because I'm afraid that people will say no - I need lots of bug fixes and speedups and optimizations, expected features like quick-lisp support, new C++ libraries being exposed to Clasp - stuff like that.
2014-12-05T04:09:03Z drmeister: I'm kind of working away, trying to make it faster and better to the point where people are excited enough to collaborate and contribute.
2014-12-05T04:09:15Z drmeister: Also, to the point where I can use it for my research.
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2014-12-05T04:09:31Z beach: Yes, I see.
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2014-12-05T04:10:07Z axion: if i have a list of strings in the format of ("1/2/3" "4/5/6" "7/8/9"), what would be the least hackiest way to create the list: (1 4 7)?
2014-12-05T04:11:16Z drmeister: Your contribution is enormous.  Right when I reached the end of my rope and saw that my generated code was not adequate you came along with Cleavir.  That's the biggest win I've had so far - and I'm just getting to the point of incorporating Cleavir.
2014-12-05T04:12:30Z drmeister: I've got a couple of weeks not with few interruptions and it's time to get serious.  So here I am messing around with swank (sigh).
2014-12-05T04:12:42Z beach: axion: (loop for string in <list> collect (digit-char-p (char string 0)))
2014-12-05T04:14:12Z axion: beach: ok, and if there was an arbitrary amount of characters between the slashes in each set?
2014-12-05T04:14:15Z beach: drmeister: I see.  I would not call Cleavir a "contribution" though.  And I was not asking so much for myself.  I just wanted to get an idea what needs to be done.
2014-12-05T04:15:18Z drmeister: Of course not, not in the normal sense - it's your research.  But I can use it, right?
2014-12-05T04:15:38Z beach: axion: (loop for string in <list> collect (parse-integer string :junk-allowed t))
2014-12-05T04:15:53Z beach: drmeister: Of course.
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2014-12-05T04:16:55Z drmeister: Right, and if I use it to cure aging by developing robust catalysts that are smaller than enzymes that reverse the oxidative cross links between collagen fibers in skin, you can use that.
2014-12-05T04:17:15Z axion: beach: thank you
2014-12-05T04:17:22Z beach: axion: Anytime!
2014-12-05T04:17:36Z axion: i completely forgot about junk-allowed
2014-12-05T04:17:47Z beach: drmeister: That might be too late for my personal use. :)
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2014-12-05T04:18:14Z drmeister: We're not dead yet.
2014-12-05T04:18:44Z axion: beach: on a related note, would there be a similar way to get the 2nd and 3rd numbers of each string?
2014-12-05T04:18:51Z axion: separate 3 item lists
2014-12-05T04:19:23Z axion: not needed anytime soon, but eventually will need to work with these too
2014-12-05T04:19:28Z beach: axion: You want me to do *all* your work for you?
2014-12-05T04:19:43Z axion: :) no, ok
2014-12-05T04:19:45Z beach: axion: Try using split-sequence, maybe?
2014-12-05T04:22:25Z beach: axion: (loop for string in <list> collect (loop for substring in (split-sequence:split-sequence #\/ string collect (read-from-string substring))))
2014-12-05T04:23:29Z Bike: or use parse-integer, maybe.
2014-12-05T04:23:35Z beach: Sure.
2014-12-05T04:24:30Z Bike: actually i think you could just use position then, since p-i takes :start ;end
2014-12-05T04:25:13Z beach: Yes, but it gets messy anyway, because you need to keep the old position and find the next one from there.
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2014-12-05T04:25:31Z beach: Though I guess if you have only two occurrences of #\/ it is doable.
2014-12-05T04:26:02Z beach: But axion changes the specifications incrementally, so perhaps the next change is for an arbitrary number of #\/.
2014-12-05T04:27:50Z axion: lol, thanks guys
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2014-12-05T04:28:29Z beach: axion: I am not sufficiently awake to do more taxing stuff, so no problem.
2014-12-05T04:28:39Z axion: that is the final spec :)
2014-12-05T04:28:59Z beach: axion: Just messing with you.
2014-12-05T04:29:07Z axion: i was messing around with very hacky split-sequence stuff prior to asking. this will give me enough info to make it better
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2014-12-05T04:40:46Z emaczen: Is there such thing as a multi-element case statement in elisp?
2014-12-05T04:40:53Z emaczen: As an example, say that I just want to do different things based on
2014-12-05T04:40:53Z emaczen: 	  the types in a pair
2014-12-05T04:42:23Z Bike: try #emacs
2014-12-05T04:42:46Z emaczen: Why?
2014-12-05T04:43:04Z emaczen: Bike: Why would elisp have it and not common-lisp?
2014-12-05T04:43:06Z Bike: because this channel isn't about elisp, and people in #emacs will know elisp better than us CL people
2014-12-05T04:43:30Z emaczen: Oops, I am happy with either common-lisp or elisp :)
2014-12-05T04:43:55Z Bike: well, i'm not sure i understand your question anyway
2014-12-05T04:44:46Z emaczen: Bike: I'll try explaining it with a different syntax (maybe somewhat reminiscent of Scala)
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2014-12-05T04:46:04Z emaczen: Tup(x, y) match {
2014-12-05T04:46:04Z emaczen:   case x:Int, y:Symbol => ...
2014-12-05T04:46:04Z emaczen:   case x:Function, y:Double => ...
2014-12-05T04:46:07Z emaczen: }
2014-12-05T04:46:24Z emaczen: Bike: Did what I paste in display Ok for you?
2014-12-05T04:46:33Z Bike: yes, though you should probably use a paste bin for that
2014-12-05T04:46:54Z Bike: (typecase (cons x y) ((cons integer symbol) ...) ((cons function double-float) ...))
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2014-12-05T04:49:30Z emaczen: Bike: Sweet! I'll try it out.
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2014-12-05T05:04:11Z emaczen: Bike: Thanks very much! It does indeed work.
2014-12-05T05:04:25Z Bike: no problem
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2014-12-05T05:08:10Z beach: drmeister: The picture on how to convert HIR to MIR is getting clearer.  I think I know all the steps that need to be taken.  Now I just have to come up with a CLOS protocol for the implementation-specific part.
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2014-12-05T05:17:34Z easye: OTR in CL?
2014-12-05T05:18:15Z beach: minion: What does OTR stand for?
2014-12-05T05:18:15Z minion: Orthodoxality Tic Retanner
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2014-12-05T05:18:24Z easye: Latest Quicklisp Irconclad has all then necessary crypto
2014-12-05T05:19:27Z easye: "Off The Record" a chat protocol with repudiation.
2014-12-05T05:19:42Z drmeister: beach: Great, because I'm wracking my brains trying to figure out how to go straight from HIR to LLVM-IR.   I think an intermediate step would make things a lot easier.
2014-12-05T05:20:33Z easye: So, I'm like why doesn't OTR layer on IRC (nee ERC).
2014-12-05T05:20:34Z beach: drmeister: Definitely.  MIR will be very close to what all the books use.  Just virtual registers, memory operations, arithmetic, that kind of stuff.
2014-12-05T05:21:37Z easye: And then I'm eyeing the <KEYGEN> tag in HTML5 and thinkin...
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2014-12-05T05:24:42Z easye: cuz as I read the tea leaves, Certs are gonna be free if "Let's Encrypt" succeeds.
2014-12-05T05:26:16Z easye: Which comes actually to a question about Parenscript wrt. namespaces, which actually is sort of on topic.
2014-12-05T05:26:21Z easye ducks.
2014-12-05T05:27:39Z easye: "PS:PS is to PS:PS* as CL:COMPILE is to CL:EVAL"  how do I research this assertion?
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2014-12-05T05:28:02Z Bike: the parenscript manual, probably?
2014-12-05T05:28:11Z easye: Not enough examples.
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2014-12-05T05:28:22Z easye: I want to lexically close file compilation.
2014-12-05T05:29:05Z easye: So, why isn't there a PS:PS analog to PS:COMPILE-FILE
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2014-12-05T05:30:46Z easye: Bike: the parenscript manual refers to concepts like "compile time macro expansion" that I want to understand better.
2014-12-05T05:31:28Z easye: I've been using CL for almost a decade, and I still don't understand all the phases in a proper abstraction.
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2014-12-05T05:36:17Z emaczen: Bike: How do I get this to work: (case (cons '+ 0)
2014-12-05T05:36:17Z emaczen: 	   ((cons '+ 0) (format t "it-worked")))
2014-12-05T05:36:55Z beach: emaczen: It depends on what you want it to do.
2014-12-05T05:37:12Z emaczen: Bike: I want it to check for the addition symbol and zero.
2014-12-05T05:37:31Z emaczen: beach: Same thing.
2014-12-05T05:37:57Z beach: And where are those objects located?
2014-12-05T05:38:22Z emaczen: Plus is loaded by default as addition right?
2014-12-05T05:38:23Z Bike: emaczen: (eql +)
2014-12-05T05:38:34Z Bike: and (eql 0), actually
2014-12-05T05:38:44Z Bike: oh, you're on case, not typecase
2014-12-05T05:38:51Z Bike: won't work with case, it compares with eql
2014-12-05T05:39:18Z emaczen: Bike: I just want to implement the rule "x+0 = x"
2014-12-05T05:39:40Z Bike: honestly i'd just use cond
2014-12-05T05:39:55Z Bike: (cond ((equal (rest expr) '(+ 0)) ...))
2014-12-05T05:40:54Z emaczen: I guess I can do that for now -- case statements are just so much cleaner.
2014-12-05T05:41:03Z emaczen: I guess once I am more experienced I can do that.
2014-12-05T05:41:25Z Bike: you might want to look up the book Paradigms of Artificial Intelligence, it includes a pattern matching system to do just that kind of simplification
2014-12-05T05:41:36Z emaczen: Who wrote it?
2014-12-05T05:41:39Z Bike: norvig
2014-12-05T05:42:14Z Bike: paradigms of artificial intelligence programming, sorry
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2014-12-05T05:42:32Z beach: minion: please tell emaczen about PAIP.
2014-12-05T05:42:32Z minion: PAIP: No definition was found in the first 5 lines of http://www.cliki.net/PAIP
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2014-12-05T05:43:19Z emaczen: Bike: I'll ask for Christmas :D
2014-12-05T05:44:03Z emaczen: Bike: Is there a default / catch all symbol for the case statement?
2014-12-05T05:44:18Z Bike: yes, t or otherwise
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2014-12-05T05:44:27Z emaczen: Awesome!
2014-12-05T05:44:27Z Bike: clhs case
2014-12-05T05:44:27Z specbot: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/m_case_.htm
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