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2014-11-05T00:48:45Z wglb: Interesting. To run without crash, regular (non-x) maxima needs a command line argument that is apprently not used. Else it tries to 'load' the current directory.
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2014-11-05T01:25:40Z qbit: nub question :D what's the diff betwee ;; and ;;+ ?
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2014-11-05T01:28:50Z jasom: qbit: syntactically, nothing.  I've not encountered ;;+ myself.
2014-11-05T01:28:52Z jasom: clhs 2.4.4.2
2014-11-05T01:28:53Z specbot: Notes about Style for Semicolon: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/02_ddb.htm
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2014-11-05T01:30:30Z qbit: nice
2014-11-05T01:30:33Z qbit: thanks jasom
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2014-11-05T03:26:53Z resttime: anyone with cl-sbga know which way the #'matrix* function goes?
2014-11-05T03:26:53Z minion: resttime, memo from pjb: you can do that by defining *vert-shader* as a symbol macro instead of a special variable.  (define-symbol-macro *vert-shader* (shader 'vert))  (defun (setf shader) (new-value name) (store-somewhere new-value name) (recompute-dependant name) new-value)
2014-11-05T03:26:53Z minion: resttime, memo from pjb: Of course, now (let ((*vert-shader* …)) …) won't work.  You can use #+clisp ext:letf instead (or similar)
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2014-11-05T03:27:54Z resttime: ohhh that's interesting
2014-11-05T03:28:41Z resttime: anyways I just want A x B = C is the same as (matrix* A B) or (matrix* B a)
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2014-11-05T03:31:14Z resttime: actually i can probably just test it myself quickly
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2014-11-05T04:19:27Z beach: Good morning everyone!
2014-11-05T04:19:46Z catcher: Morning
2014-11-05T04:20:15Z beach: catcher: Are you new here?
2014-11-05T04:21:02Z catcher: Apparently yes
2014-11-05T04:21:25Z beach: I don't recognize your nick.  But sometimes people use different nicks.
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2014-11-05T04:22:16Z beach: I see.
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2014-11-05T04:26:51Z beach: Yesterday I talked about eliminating (partial) redundant conditional branches.  I think I can do it by using the standard PRE technique for finding the places where instructions have to be inserted, and then using local rewrite rules to replicate the code.  This technique must be tested and proven of course.
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2014-11-05T04:45:45Z drmeister: Hello beach.  I'm getting started now with Cleavir.
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2014-11-05T04:46:17Z drmeister: I just got a chat request from croOoOoak - damn bots.
2014-11-05T04:47:09Z beach: drmeister: Yeah, I agree.
2014-11-05T04:47:18Z beach: drmeister: Any questions so far?
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2014-11-05T04:49:42Z drmeister: Not yet.  I'm just reading through your last set of instructions you gave me.
2014-11-05T04:50:02Z drmeister: I spent the last couple of days getting Clasp to generate object files directly rather than calling out to clang to do it.
2014-11-05T04:51:37Z drmeister: I forked SICL a couple of weeks ago, you've probably made changes.  Is there a quick way to update a forked repo?
2014-11-05T04:51:53Z beach: I wouldn't know.
2014-11-05T04:51:56Z drmeister: That's a general question to anyone who might know.
2014-11-05T04:53:51Z beach: What's the reason for forking it rather than just checking it out?
2014-11-05T04:54:48Z beach: I'm sorry, I don't know as much GIT as I would like.
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2014-11-05T04:57:27Z drmeister: No problem, I got it.   I don't think there is any git question that can't be answered with a google search.
2014-11-05T04:57:50Z drmeister: I had to configure an upstream repository and point it to your SICL repo and then fetch from there.
2014-11-05T04:58:05Z drmeister: I've got changes now that are 13 hours old.  So it looks like it worked.
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2014-11-05T04:59:07Z drmeister: I don't know what the issues are re: forking or checking out.
2014-11-05T04:59:24Z drmeister: I guess forking is for when you want to make local changes and then submit pull requests?
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2014-11-05T05:00:37Z beach: I don't know :(
2014-11-05T05:01:12Z drmeister: I do have something I wanted to get some advice on.
2014-11-05T05:01:33Z drmeister: Literal values and symbols - how should one compile those into code?
2014-11-05T05:01:50Z drmeister: I have a way but I'm wondering if there's a better way.
2014-11-05T05:01:53Z beach: Is this the file compiler?
2014-11-05T05:02:25Z drmeister: Primarily the file compiler but COMPILE needs to deal with it as well.
2014-11-05T05:02:56Z drmeister: Do you have a moment for me to describe the approach I took?
2014-11-05T05:02:57Z beach: Well, COMPILE already has access to the constants, so it can store them in the static environment.
2014-11-05T05:03:03Z beach: Sure.
2014-11-05T05:03:19Z pillton: drmeister: I found this to be insightful when learning git. http://www.git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Distributed-Git-Distributed-Workflows
2014-11-05T05:04:14Z drmeister: When I generate compiled code I generate a function that creates literal values and stores them in an array indexed by integers.
2014-11-05T05:04:36Z drmeister: The compiled code then looks up the values when it needs them indexed by the integer indices.
2014-11-05T05:04:49Z beach: Sounds good.
2014-11-05T05:04:59Z beach: And where do you store the array?
2014-11-05T05:05:01Z drmeister: When a compiled file is loaded, an array is created that is keyed to the name of the compiled file.
2014-11-05T05:05:36Z drmeister: I store it in a hash table in the singleton "LISP" object, the key is the name of the compiled file.
2014-11-05T05:06:08Z drmeister: The value is a thing called a LoadTimeValues  object.   It stores two arrays actually, one for literals and load-time-values and the other array just stores symbols.
2014-11-05T05:06:33Z beach: Too fast for me.  Maybe someone else understood.
2014-11-05T05:06:45Z drmeister: The part I'm not completely happy about is to get a reference to one of these values I call a function with the integer index and it returns a pointer to the object.
2014-11-05T05:07:02Z beach: What does it mean for an array to be "keyed" to something?
2014-11-05T05:08:14Z drmeister: The global environment has a hash-table where the keys are the names of fasl files that are loaded and the values are the LoadTimeValues objects.
2014-11-05T05:08:29Z beach: I see.
2014-11-05T05:08:35Z drmeister: The LoadTimeValues objects are just two arrays, one for literal values and the other for symbols.
2014-11-05T05:08:53Z drmeister: So the LoadTimeValues object is keyed to the filename of the compiled file that is loaded.
2014-11-05T05:09:17Z beach: Not the solution I would have chosen.
2014-11-05T05:09:32Z drmeister: What would you have done?
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2014-11-05T05:10:35Z beach: I would have created a static environment for the functions that are loaded, and that static environment would contain literals.  They would be referred to just like any old variables by the code.
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2014-11-05T05:11:29Z drmeister: The special problem that I have is to maintain interoperability with C++, the literals have to be created by C++ function calls.    I can't really compile literals into a static environment.
2014-11-05T05:11:50Z beach: OK, my advice is useless then.
2014-11-05T05:12:01Z Zhivago: You can't compile them into C++ variables and then register descriptions in lisp-land for linkage?
2014-11-05T05:12:17Z drmeister: I'm not discounting your advice.  I'd love to do something like that but I haven't figure out how.
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2014-11-05T05:12:29Z drmeister: Imagine if I have a literal like (CONS 1 2)
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2014-11-05T05:14:14Z drmeister: I can store the integer values 1 and 2 in the LLVM module - but I don't see how I could store a CONS or anything more complicated than that.
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2014-11-05T05:14:29Z beach: drmeister: You can use any method you like to create those things at load time.
2014-11-05T05:14:58Z beach: drmeister: You can still store them in the static environment once the code is loaded.
2014-11-05T05:15:08Z drmeister: Right, so what I do is invoke calls at load-time to create the objects and put them in the LoadTimeValues array for values.
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2014-11-05T05:15:59Z drmeister: So there's some overhead involved in creating load-time-values and literals at load time.
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2014-11-05T05:16:20Z beach: That shouldn't be a problem.
2014-11-05T05:16:37Z beach: As long as it is efficient to access them at runtime.
2014-11-05T05:17:11Z beach: I also don't understand why the file name of the compiled file is involved.
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2014-11-05T05:17:58Z beach: I think Zhivago is saying the same thing.  Once the code is loaded, why aren't those literals in normal variables?
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2014-11-05T05:20:36Z drmeister: Thinking.
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2014-11-05T05:20:46Z drmeister: Oh - yeah - garbage collection roots.
2014-11-05T05:21:21Z drmeister: I'd have to make all of those normal variables GC roots.
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2014-11-05T05:22:45Z beach: drmeister: Can you run code like this: (let ((x (cons 1 2))) (lambda (a) (cons a x)))?
2014-11-05T05:23:20Z beach: drmeister: If you have something like (lambda (a) (cons a '(1 2))), you can then turn it into the previous one.
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2014-11-05T05:23:48Z drmeister: For the Boehm GC they would have to be in memory allocated with GC_MALLOC_UNCOLLECTABLE.  For MPS they would have to be registered as roots.
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2014-11-05T05:24:29Z beach: I don't get it.  Are you saying that every time you run something like my first example above, you need to do some manual declaration of roots to the GC?
2014-11-05T05:25:52Z drmeister: If I have that in a file and COMPILE-FILE it?
2014-11-05T05:26:10Z beach: No, if that is the code that is executed at load time.
2014-11-05T05:27:30Z beach: Suppose you are compiling this: (defun f (a) (cons a '(1 2)))
2014-11-05T05:27:36Z beach: Now you have a literal '(1 2).
2014-11-05T05:27:41Z drmeister: Entering something like that into the REPL is different than COMPILE-FILE.
2014-11-05T05:28:25Z beach: Turn that into code that when you load it, it evaluates (let ((x (cons 1 2))) (defun f (a) (cons a x)))
2014-11-05T05:28:28Z drmeister: That literal gets put into a special array.
2014-11-05T05:29:12Z drmeister: Do you have a concrete example?
2014-11-05T05:29:36Z beach: I thought my example was concrete.  No?
2014-11-05T05:29:50Z drmeister: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/bwQaVcQX
2014-11-05T05:29:55Z beach: You must be able to execute arbitrary code at load time.
2014-11-05T05:30:03Z drmeister: I can.
2014-11-05T05:31:03Z beach: So the expression above only has literals 1 and 2.  Problem solved.
2014-11-05T05:32:54Z beach: Think of (defun f (a) (cons a '(1 2))) as (defun f (a) (cons a (load-time-value (cons 1 2))))
2014-11-05T05:32:56Z drmeister: Right, but this is in the REPL.   I'm worrying about COMPILE-FILE.
2014-11-05T05:33:43Z beach: I thought you had problems with complicated literals such as lists, no?
2014-11-05T05:33:50Z drmeister: Right - but it's at the REPL, compiled with COMPILE.  The (load-time-value (cons 1 2)) just returns the value of (cons 1 2)
2014-11-05T05:34:25Z beach: In the file compiler, it should arrange for the code (cons 1 2) to be executed at load time.
2014-11-05T05:34:37Z drmeister: No, I don't have problems with them.  I'm wondering if there's a better way to do it rather than generating code that runs at load-time to build the values, put them in an array and have the code reference them using integer indices.
2014-11-05T05:35:07Z beach: How you build the values is not that important.  How you reference them at runtime is.
2014-11-05T05:35:32Z drmeister: That is what I do, I arrange for the code (cons 1 2) to be executed at load time, the result is put in an array at a specific index and then when the code needs that value it pulls it up using the integer index.
2014-11-05T05:36:27Z drmeister: I reference them with a pointer to an array and an index into the array.
2014-11-05T05:37:23Z drmeister: You were suggesting above to reference them like any other global variable - directly.  I see now that if I did that, I would need to tell the garbage collector that that global variable is a root, otherwise the value would be garbage collected.
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2014-11-05T05:38:15Z beach: I suppose this has to do with some restrictions on LLVM, C++, or a combination of them.  I guess my advice won't be able to take those into account.
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2014-11-05T05:38:28Z drmeister: The array that stores all of the literals is pointed to by a root pointer and so transitively, everything within it is kept alive.
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2014-11-05T05:40:32Z drmeister: Some of the things that I did, I did because I needed to work with those restrictions.  After a while I forget why I did them.   This helps me remember.
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2014-11-05T05:41:51Z drmeister: I guess if I could force LLVM to write the code that it generates into memory managed by the garbage collectors then the GC's could see the pointers within the code.  Currently I can't do that.
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2014-11-05T05:43:05Z drmeister: I can't garbage collect generated code.  Functions just accumulate in Clasp.
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2014-11-05T05:44:03Z drmeister: So I can't put pointers to objects within generated code - so I access them indirectly using integer indices into arrays of pointers that are in garbage collector managed memory.
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2014-11-05T05:49:39Z drmeister: I wonder how ECL does it, or any CL that compiles to C - I would guess they have similar issues.
2014-11-05T05:50:32Z beach: It seems like it has to do with the GC you use.
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2014-11-05T05:50:39Z Bike: i think that's kind of usual? load time value sort of lends itself to having arrays
2014-11-05T05:54:27Z drmeister: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HXaEvyWO
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2014-11-05T05:55:40Z drmeister: On line 61 is the only call to CONS
2014-11-05T05:56:39Z drmeister: Line 54 is where it looks up the literal (cons 8 9) which was created at compile time and put into globalRunTimeValues[111]
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2014-11-05T05:57:53Z drmeister: LTV[ 111]@0x1162cb8e0 --> (8  . 9 )@0x115fec358 (base@0x115fec340)
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2014-11-05T06:01:18Z drmeister: I can access the arrays that are created for load-time-values and literals.  That last one stores the value (cons 8 9) which was generated at compile time.
2014-11-05T06:01:48Z drmeister: Ok, well I can see I'm straying in to implementation dependent details that others probably don't have to worry about.
2014-11-05T06:03:47Z drmeister: I'll come back when I have some more general Cleavir questions.
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2014-11-05T09:26:03Z Baggers: Hi folks, I have a emacs/slime issue I dont know how to track down. Normally slime gives me the argument list when I am inside a form, however recently it shows but dissapears after less than a second. There are no weird messages in *Messages* or *slime-events* so I dont know where to start looking. Any clues?
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2014-11-05T09:33:30Z Baggers: Hmm problem seems to be it only shows the auto-doc very briefly after space-key..other keys seem to be fine
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2014-11-05T09:35:16Z H4ns: i've seen that behavior, too.  it seems that when you don't hit space after the function name, you get the argument list display.
2014-11-05T09:35:25Z Baggers: yeah
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2014-11-05T09:40:39Z Grue`: you should probably report the bug, they are usually fixed quickly
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2014-11-05T09:51:55Z Baggers: Grue`: will do
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2014-11-05T10:01:18Z loke: Baggers: I know that one
2014-11-05T10:01:26Z loke: It took me a while to track that one down
2014-11-05T10:02:14Z loke: I figured out an easy fix:
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2014-11-05T10:02:22Z loke: Add the following to your initialisation:
2014-11-05T10:02:37Z loke: (eldoc-add-command 'slime-space)
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2014-11-05T10:04:55Z Baggers: loke: You star! that works perfectly
2014-11-05T10:05:14Z H4ns: is this a bug in slime?  has it been reported yet?
2014-11-05T10:05:30Z Baggers: H4ns: yeah I just reported it
2014-11-05T10:05:38Z Baggers: I will add this fix
2014-11-05T10:05:43Z H4ns: thanks!
2014-11-05T10:06:34Z Baggers: to the issue that is
2014-11-05T10:07:05Z loke: I never reported it. Perhaps I should have :-)
2014-11-05T10:09:16Z H4ns: works great for me as well, thanks loke1
2014-11-05T10:09:17Z H4ns: !
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2014-11-05T10:09:54Z loke: Yay!
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2014-11-05T10:10:22Z loke: I thought I was alone in suffering from it
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2014-11-05T11:08:20Z dim: awesome fix, confirm it works for me too
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2014-11-05T16:20:04Z rx14: getting a good 100% on esper
2014-11-05T16:20:20Z rx14: lies
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2014-11-05T16:20:39Z H4ns: rx14: wrong channel?
2014-11-05T16:20:45Z rx14: yes
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2014-11-05T19:00:05Z dim: anyone here knows if SBCL supports threading on OpenBSD?
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2014-11-05T19:00:23Z dim .oO(yeah I have a pgcharts user on OpenBSD, yeah)
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2014-11-05T19:06:31Z Xach: dim: I don't think so, based on semi-recent irc discussion.
2014-11-05T19:07:30Z dim: ok, would it explain strange behavior from hunchentoot to serve pages, where the users sees a systematic 20s delay for each HTTP hit?
2014-11-05T19:07:56Z Xach: I don't know, sorry. I don't know what behavior should be expected from single-threaded hunchentoot, if any.
2014-11-05T19:08:18Z Grue`: theoretically there shouldnt be delay if only *one* user is accessing it
2014-11-05T19:08:48Z Grue`: I used to run it on CLISP a long time ago
2014-11-05T19:08:50Z H4ns: dim: sounds as if the next request is only handled after the first connection times out
2014-11-05T19:08:56Z dim: any single web browser nowadays is doing parallel http queries, limited I think to 2 concurrent ones on the same server
2014-11-05T19:09:12Z dim: H4ns: mmm, that's a good though yes
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2014-11-05T21:05:31Z ahungry: Anyone ever had an issue in slime where the mode line that shows function inputs disappears after pressing space?
2014-11-05T21:06:08Z ahungry: Like, typing "(print" will have it show the next input, but as soon as you press space it hides "(print " until you begin to type again at which point it re-appears
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2014-11-05T21:08:06Z Grue`: ahungry: a few people had recently
2014-11-05T21:08:10Z Grue`: there's even a fix
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2014-11-05T21:08:30Z Grue`: 13:02 <loke> Add the following to your initialisation:
2014-11-05T21:08:30Z Grue`: 13:02 <loke> (eldoc-add-command 'slime-space)
2014-11-05T21:08:52Z ahungry: Nice, thanks Grue` you rock!
2014-11-05T21:08:55Z Grue`: seems like a bug in recent versino of slime
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2014-11-05T21:09:41Z ahungry: so much better
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2014-11-05T21:10:28Z francogrex: dears for those using win32 os, I wrote a simple post on how to use cffi for sharing data through named shared memory, may be useful: http://paste.lisp.org/display/144289
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2014-11-05T23:01:10Z didi: Suppose I have a project with two files: `macros.lisp' and `functions.lisp'. I set up for ASDF to first load `macros.lisp' and then `functions.lisp'. All good so far. But now, suppose I want to use a function from `functions.lisp' inside a macro in `macros.lisp'. Do I have to do something special about it?
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2014-11-05T23:03:22Z Xach: didi: do you mean it expands into a call to that function?
2014-11-05T23:03:29Z Xach: didi: or that it uses a function to produce the macroexpansion?
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2014-11-05T23:04:21Z didi: Xach: Ah. I didn't think about this difference. In this particular case, it uses a function to produce the macroexpansion.
2014-11-05T23:07:26Z Xach: didi: then you should arrange for the needed function to be loaded before the macro is defined. you can do that by putting it into a file loaded before macros.lisp or putting it into macros.lisp with an eval-when around it.
2014-11-05T23:08:14Z didi: Xach: Cool. Thank you.
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