19:36:43 ccl-logbot [~ccl-logbo@setf.clozure.com] has joined #lisp 19:36:43 19:36:43 -!- names: ccl-logbot angavrilov ehaliewicz cabaire Nizumzen vkrest zacharias nug700 kushal sheilong hiroakip Patzy malbertife bjorkintosh Alfr developernotes karswell Pullphinger Vivitron slyrus kirin` spacebat cory786 AndChat-420761 drmeister SHODAN jsambrook sid_cypher zbigniew hypno_ sorabji5252 duggiefresh arbscht wedgeV percopal nyef Oddity EvW zajn sellout- scoofy mathrick ThatOtherPerson Code_Man` boogie theos eMBee joneshf-laptop normanrichards CatMtKing 19:36:43 -!- names: askatasuna easye Kromitvs fiveop paul0 senj jtza8 frx clop apocalyptic-lexi segv- yrk lumen Bike tensorpudding kobain BaconOverflow fortitude ahungry_ bjz naryl schoppenhauer oleo copec harish KDr2 _5kg zygentoma mishoo jackdaniel sohail ski dkordic alexherbo2 optikalmouse antoszka fe[nl]ix Blkt BlastHardcheese effy sword emma_ vaporatorius loke_ OldContrarian Shinmera stepnem chitech rainbyte mrSpec aftershave gko Guthur-work ahungry alezost Codynyx 19:36:43 -!- names: wheelsucker ubii syrinx seangrov` prxq doomlord_ DrCode keen__ sytse tokenrove jaimef ASau heddwch PuffTheMagic Tristam p_nathan ferada dsp_ dlowe erg cjwelborn REPLeffect cpt_nemo nightshade427 cmbntr subtlepath vhost- pillton [SLB] ianmcorvidae milosn joserr zophy ldionmarcil DeadTrickster GuilOooo gigetoo joast akersof ``Erik lupine cafe^muerte Kruppe flip214 MightyJoe __main__ Denommus knob gabot clog ThePhoeron FrostyX cantstanya MrWoohoo sirdancealo2 19:36:43 -!- names: kbtr eigenlicht axion joshe Yanez rvchangue ivan djinni` cyphase gf3 drdo xan_ jdz oconnore billstclair scharan rdd hlavaty Petit_Dejeuner Krystof plathrop vsync Mon_Ouie asedeno Anarch nydel ered jasom cdidd kanru zarul vert2 _d3f tsuru sixbitslacker eee-blt_ hyperboreean loke reeed Phoodus impulse AntiSpamMeta mcsontos Tordek dan64 blackwolf aeth zz_karupanerura cibs tali713 Neptu KingNato abeaumont_ Zhivago jsnell_ ecraven sjl mshroyer ozzloy Ober_ 19:36:43 -!- names: mikaelj_ Nshag acieroid matko faheem tomaw iwilcox tkd kmder nightfly H4ns yeltzooo freiksenet epsylon` rtoym xian phadthai redline6561 nbouscal Adeon K1rk ircbrowse benny nitro_idiot_ eak_ hiredman musicalchair spacefrogg cods j0ni hpd Wukix nuba bhyde Roin otwieracz pchrist gensym zenoli killmaster luis xristos tychoish fikusz tessier brucem aerique_ housel nullman Labrit abbe nicdev chadhs dim bentgf vnz robiv specbot smull oGMo tvaalen MikeSeth aoh 19:36:43 -!- names: finnrobi felideon daimrod yano theBlackDragon yroeht1 macdice setheus JPeterson chr wyan Cheery guaqua` capisce felipe bobbysmith007 Natch eagleflo Posterdati mood wchun enn sfa marsam quasisane Zag rk[wrk] wormphlegm p_l|backup Ash gemelen revolve Fade dRbiG sklr igorw peccu1 fmu ineiros __class__ sigjuice p_l karbak runningskull Mandus PuercoPop DrForr Khisanth Kabaka j_king cross brown``` justinmcp_ foom newcup rk[imposter] cic_ _8hzp _andares |3b| 19:36:43 -!- names: ramus stopbit Xach robot-beethoven ktx Praise rotty_ stokachu _death Jubb galdor The_third_man danlentz abend sbryant sshirokov dyreshark fnordbert Odin- Mathieu TristamWrk nialo` staykov samebchase sauerkrause froggey Munksgaard jdoles Subfusc Ralt surrounder p9f ZombieChicken bege jack_rabbit minion srcerer mtd hugod _schulte_ pjb dfox Tarential Yamazaki-kun d4gg4d___ davorb qiemem krrrcks z0d MoALTz_ wilfredh varjag yakov splittist__ ggherdov ivan\ 19:36:43 -!- names: cmatei ConstantineXVI gluegadget mal___ victor_lowther ft dotemacs WeirdEnthusiast jayne johs pok_ 19:36:46 mathrick: in clojure doesn't () represent a cons and [] a vector? 19:36:50 or python list in Hy 19:36:57 mathrick: but in ny () maps to a python list it appears 19:37:15 and [] doesn't map to anything (it's only used in special forms like defun and cond) 19:37:26 jasom: it does, but it seems that you can largely switch those around in many forms in clojure, like ns 19:37:35 defn and let will yell at you if you do, though 19:37:52 so it's arbitrary and rather directionless, AFAICT 19:37:55 -!- vkrest [~vkrest@173.252.71.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:37:56 mathrick: clojure tends to actually use the sequence abstraction a lot, hence the ()/[] independence 19:38:34 mathrick: as somebody who uses a language based on "friendly" (english-like, lots of optional stuff) syntax, it's not a winning strategy <-- I don't understand what you mean by that 19:38:45 so what's the hy code to dynamically generate [a b c] (if you are in a macro, for example) 19:38:57 who knows :) 19:39:00 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.5.56] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:39:05 mathrick: I was concurring that having an optional comma delimiter is silly 19:40:01 -!- normanrichards [~textual@70.114.215.220] has quit [] 19:40:04 mc40 [~mcheema@146.255.107.122] has joined #lisp 19:41:55 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:42:13 mathrick: according to the hy documentation () is a list and [] is a vector, but python lists are essentially vectors argh! 19:42:35 -!- kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:42:58 fortitude: ah, in that case I'd point out that "as someone who does X, it's Y" is invalid grammar. It should be "as someone who does X, I can say that Y". The former actually means "it is someone who does X, and also the same 'it' is Y". So basically you just said that clojure used a language with english-like syntax :) 19:43:36 and yes, I know it's an extremely widespread error, to the point people don't seem to be aware that the grammar they use has a specific parse tree, but it does 19:43:59 mathrick: given how tired I am, you're pretty lucky I was able to string together a sentence that long at all :p 19:44:04 :) 19:44:14 can you sleep? 19:44:23 can, but often don't 19:44:38 then do 19:44:54 skimping on sleep is not a winning strategy either 19:45:12 kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 19:45:18 ah, but there is so much to do on my own time, and so much to zonk out for at work 19:45:28 snits [~snits@inet-hqmc05-o.oracle.com] has joined #lisp 19:45:32 "zonk out"? 19:45:49 aric` [~user@63-152-62-6.cdrr.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 19:46:02 "zombie through", "ignore", "perform-on-autopilot", take your pick 19:46:41 -!- cory786 [~cory@CK-Laptop.wifi.utoledo.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:46:47 -!- kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Changing host] 19:46:47 kushal [kdas@nat/eucalyptus/x-tnycefspivslnplb] has joined #lisp 19:46:47 -!- kushal [kdas@nat/eucalyptus/x-tnycefspivslnplb] has quit [Changing host] 19:46:47 kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 19:46:57 oh 19:48:19 fortitude: you should still sleep. Basically every time you think you can save on sleep and do something else instead, you're wrong. You will be doing less, and of worse quality, in the time you could've spent sleeping and in the rest of your time, so there's a net loss more often than not 19:49:06 I don't disagree 19:50:11 GC for the brain 19:50:44 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:51:39 I'm working on getting my daughter to not eat in the middle of the night, so sleep is not currently an option 19:51:42 oGMo: more literally than you might think, if the recent research is right 19:51:58 fortitude: i mean it pretty literally, though more is involved 19:52:39 jasom: if you can't sleep, then you can't sleep. But absent external factors, "I will not save on sleep and do X instead" is almost invariably a bad idea 19:53:10 mrhooray [~textual@c-98-207-106-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:53:26 francogrex [~user@109.128.82.138] has joined #lisp 19:54:10 -!- ThatOtherPerson [~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:54:13 read a hard book until you force a full collection ;) 19:54:49 Foxboron [~sp00n@146.185.137.105] has joined #lisp 19:54:51 -!- SHODAN [~shozan@fsf/member/shodan] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:54:56 s/not// 19:55:57 -!- Patzy [~something@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-151-137.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:55:58 dmiles_afk [~dmiles@c-67-189-17-39.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:56:37 Patzy [~something@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-151-137.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 19:57:05 minion: memo for Fare: so I've been reading a bit through the Baker's paper, but it's still not clear to me what exactly the benefits of linear logic and lack of GC are. Ie. what exactly will moll give me in practical terms compared to some other implementation strategy, and what will I pay for those benefits? 19:57:05 Remembered. 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I get started with this? 21:56:01 sbcl has a profile. Read its sources. 21:56:17 profiler 21:57:04 profile.lisp in code? thanks 21:57:06 -!- easye [~user@2a01:4f8:200:4310::30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:51 -!- zajn [~zajn@c-50-173-48-75.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: zajn] 21:57:59 is there a lisp function for determing if a particular cons cell is part of a list? 21:58:16 like member, but for the cons cells 21:59:12 ldiff I'd guess. 21:59:43 no, that'd be tailp 21:59:53 oh jeez 21:59:59 how did I not see that 22:00:00 (tailp cons list) 22:00:06 I just used tailp ten seconds ago -.- 22:02:04 pierpa [~user@95.236.58.43] has joined #lisp 22:07:10 -!- pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 22:12:27 -!- nyef [~nyef@c-50-157-244-41.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: G'night all.] 22:12:34 okay so... the high resolution timer in "profile.lisp" has a comment on it claiming that it isn't a high resolution timer? 22:12:55 -!- liqu0rice [~yaaic@brln-4dba979b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:13:31 most profilers work stochastically. 22:15:31 eventually it seems to bottom out at syscalling sb_gettimeofday and subtracts values from that, with some tricks to make sure this is fairly fast and doesn't incur too much overhead 22:16:36 i remember rdtsc being used, either in a main profiler or some demoing pkhuong was doing 22:16:46 Yeah I googled and got an old IRC log 22:16:54 but the lisp paste pointed to by that is gone 22:17:24 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@88.231.50.227] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:04 ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@li283-143.members.linode.com] has joined #lisp 22:18:27 you can get it off archive.org sometimes. 22:18:32 -!- dstatyvka [ejabberd@pepelaz.jabber.od.ua] has left #lisp 22:20:50 no such luck. thanks though 22:21:13 ah, i was thinking of WITH-CYCLE-COUNTER, which should be in the mainline 22:21:18 experimental/deep in internals, though 22:23:25 oh perfect 22:23:59 this is exactly what i wanted thanks 22:24:14 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:24:37 just be aware it's super fragile. and only works on x86/64, of course. 22:24:55 *mogglebam* nods 22:25:18 ... by "super-fragile" what do you mean? 22:26:13 that it's labeled experimental, unexported, and ready to be whooshed away by a developer's whims. 22:26:23 looking at it, it looks pretty straightforward, similar to the way a C program would call rdtsc with inline asm 22:26:32 ohhh just like not maintained and stuff, sure. 22:26:43 KaiQ [~localhost@p578FC80C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 22:26:47 yeah, sure, it just uses rdtsc pretty much 22:29:09 heck it says "maybe export" if the with-cycle-counter interface gets a way to translate into real execution time. 22:29:29 I'll see if i can patch that while i'm digging around in here. 22:31:58 pdk [~realname@c-71-236-103-197.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:34:38 ustunozg_ [~ustunozgu@88.231.50.227] has joined #lisp 22:36:00 -!- harish [~harish@175.156.87.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:37:23 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@li283-143.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:38:14 CatMtKing [~CatMtKing@ed-uluka.dyn.ucr.edu] has joined #lisp 22:39:10 -!- ustunozg_ [~ustunozgu@88.231.50.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:39:20 -!- clop [~jared@moat3.centtech.com] has left #lisp 22:39:59 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:41:43 -!- sellout- [~Adium@66.185.108.211] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:49:04 tsuru [~charlie@adsl-74-179-198-164.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #lisp 22:49:20 -!- fortitude [~mts@rrcs-24-97-165-124.nys.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:51:36 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:54:35 is there more elegant solution to subtract one list from another then marrying it with remove-if and lambda? 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:P 23:10:12 slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.5.56] has joined #lisp 23:10:16 no, just trying to condesne a block of code to be more simple 23:10:35 I'm doing homework :-) 23:10:55 clop2 [~jared@99-23-195-115.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 23:11:04 i would look up REMOVE-IF 23:12:34 Codynyx [~cody@c-75-72-223-59.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:12:56 http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/c_sequen.htm <- you should usually start there with that kind of thing 23:13:24 since i'm pre-processing with split-sequence, i just found i can do :remove-emtpy-subseqs t 23:14:00 -!- kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 23:14:54 -!- Denommus [~user@unaffiliated/denommus] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:14:56 kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 23:20:03 -!- ehu [ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:21:17 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 23:23:55 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: ZzzZ] 23:25:27 pyml [~pyml@c-24-23-243-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:25:41 -!- pyml [~pyml@c-24-23-243-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #lisp 23:26:18 -!- sheilong [~sabayonus@unaffiliated/sheilong] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:28:18 -!- malbertife [~malbertif@host252-167-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:31:27 seangrove [~user@24-182-13-178.static.arhd.ca.charter.com] has joined #lisp 23:33:59 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:34:03 -!- alexherbo2 [~alexherbo@APlessis-Bouchard-154-1-84-139.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3-dev] 23:34:17 CatMtKing [~CatMtKing@ed-uluka.dyn.ucr.edu] has joined #lisp 23:36:14 -!- ck`` [~ck@dslb-094-219-236-112.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:40:05 -!- chameco [~samuel@cpe-67-246-148-164.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:40:08 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:40:50 frxx [~a@78-1-133-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 23:40:52 blargh 23:41:07 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.248.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:42:15 -!- duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:31 -!- doomlord_ [~servitor@host86-184-12-236.range86-184.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:43:39 -!- frx [~a@93-141-67-193.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:43:55 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-144-157.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:44:56 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-186-224.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 23:47:46 zRecursive [~czsq888@183.12.94.108] has joined #lisp 23:49:08 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 23:54:10 ckoch` [~ckoch@ne102624l.eng.utoledo.edu] has joined #lisp 23:54:10 -!- mrhooray [~textual@c-98-207-106-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:55:13 -!- scoofy [~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu] has left #lisp 23:57:10 -!- milosn [~milosn@94.12.79.143] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:57:15 chameco [~samuel@cpe-67-246-148-164.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 23:57:49 i really wish i could put &rest after &key in a macro lambda list and get all the keyword not named in the &key in the &rest arg list. 23:58:02 milosn [~milosn@94.12.79.143] has joined #lisp 23:59:51 segv-: I thought you could