00:00:15 -!- vaporatorius [~vaporator@36.Red-79-151-236.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:47 nonameinmind [~user@90.Red-176-83-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 00:01:48 I do however find it strange that LOOP accepts symbols but ignores their package. 00:02:18 because it doesn't matter to it 00:02:42 you can't define new clauses, so, it doesn't matter to you too 00:02:59 why not ITERATE? 00:03:13 I think I'd drop LOOP altogether if I was designing Admiral Lisp 00:03:14 why iterate? 00:03:14 I realise that, but it is a strange decision to make. 00:03:22 Jini: i also hate iterate1 00:03:23 ! 00:03:23 it's extensible and lispy 00:04:03 it's easier to build macros employing iterate to get new loop-like constructs 00:04:49 what do you use then? series? :) 00:05:14 i love LOOP 00:05:44 heh, okay 00:05:53 love doesn't have to have grounds for it 00:06:00 i do not think extensibility is actually necessary for LOOP, the main complaint is that LOOP is not featureful enough and needs to be extended to cover that 00:06:20 -!- nonameinmind [~user@90.Red-176-83-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06:34 Seriously? Not featureful enough? 00:06:46 and the fact that LOOP does not use list structures makes it easier to distinguish between the iteration parts and code parts 00:07:34 nonameinmind [~user@90.Red-176-83-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 00:07:54 I would have thought the main complaint would be the differing implementations. 00:08:31 that doesn't constitute a problem 00:08:56 only that some implementations are more lax, causing CLISP's loop to break 00:09:14 -!- nialo [nialo@c-24-147-120-102.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:09:43 nialo [~nialo@c-24-147-120-102.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 00:09:54 how many people have actually added iterate extensions? 00:10:12 you mean, published? 00:10:35 whichever metric you want to use 00:10:51 I wrote a few macros wrapped over iterate for some specific problems, but I won't even remember now what they were for 00:11:25 have you used defclause? 00:11:27 I remember I was pleased with the fact that I could use COLLECT in FLETs and nested forms 00:11:35 no, just defmacro expanding to iter 00:12:55 -!- nonameinmind [~user@90.Red-176-83-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15:06 loop does have on construct which can be used nested, LOOP-FINISH 00:16:20 but i'd strive for minimizing the instances where you need to use nested constructs 00:17:10 ggggggg [~user@90.Red-176-83-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 00:17:49 why constraining yourself? 00:18:19 to not descend into chaos 00:19:00 -!- pillton [~user@124-148-37-96.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #lisp 00:20:44 cneira [~cneira@pc-33-7-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lisp 00:22:03 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:23:50 order out of chaos? 00:25:04 -!- Jini [~pidgin@195.112.102.205] has quit [Quit: gotta sleep, cya!] 00:26:11 -!- cneira [~cneira@pc-33-7-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 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[~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: ZzzZ] 00:46:33 -!- ggggggg [~user@90.Red-176-83-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:47:52 -!- zz_karupanerura is now known as karupanerura 00:50:07 [SLB] [~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua] has joined #lisp 00:55:40 -!- lman [~lman@unaffiliated/lman] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 00:58:00 Bike: actually &aux differs from let* in the position of declarations. &aux help simplify macros. 00:59:00 lman [~user@unaffiliated/lman] has joined #lisp 00:59:14 smithzv [~user@99-71-111-56.lightspeed.whtnil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 01:01:10 i was going to joke about you pointing out such an obscure thing but i thought better of it 01:02:11 lyanchih [~lyanchih@118-163-141-228.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 01:02:19 -!- tesuji [~tesuji@unaffiliated/tesuji] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:03:32 hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 01:04:56 Bike: of course, the corolary is that it may be used in macros, but not directly written by the programmer :-) 01:06:20 pjb: so a programmer doesn't write macros? ;D 01:08:38 -!- theBlackDragon [~dragon@77.109.122.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:10:49 -!- lman [~user@unaffiliated/lman] has quit [Quit: sleeping, bye] 01:13:36 cneira [~cneira@pc-33-7-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lisp 01:16:07 nug700 [~nug700@71-223-57-66.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 01:21:38 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:27:10 theBlackDragon [~dragon@77.109.122.2] has joined #lisp 01:27:29 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 01:28:59 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:33:52 I'm having troubles using cffi, here is the code I have is pretty simple but does not work http://paste.lisp.org/display/140678 01:35:45 because that library does not contain such a function 01:37:56 but it does 01:38:15 no, it does not 01:38:22 stassats, I coded hte library it only has one function 01:38:45 then you did it wrong 01:39:12 or it is loading not the library you think it's loading 01:39:54 why don't you annotate the paste with the code of the library 01:41:23 and use load-foreign-library with an absolute pathname of the library you just compiled 01:43:17 stassats: thanks I'll check the lib again 01:55:23 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@101.171.168.158] has joined #lisp 01:55:51 -!- DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@101.171.168.158] has quit [Client Quit] 01:58:27 hrs [~textual@24.102.229.60.res-cmts.eph2.ptd.net] has joined #lisp 02:04:21 n0n0 [~n0n0___@2602:306:c410:500:d1b6:768f:8909:3492] has joined #lisp 02:11:54 Xenasis [~quassel@212.56.121.30] has joined #lisp 02:12:20 -!- Xenasis [~quassel@212.56.121.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12:36 Xenasis [~quassel@212.56.121.30] has joined #lisp 02:13:22 What's the recommended resource for learning Common Lisp for a beginner in Lisp? 02:13:30 minion: pcl 02:13:30 pcl: pcl-book: "Practical Common Lisp", an introduction to Common Lisp by Peter Seibel, available at http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ and in dead-tree form from Apress (as of 11 April 2005). 02:13:59 Anything other than that, or is that the only one? o.o 02:14:07 minion: gentle 02:14:07 gentle: "Common Lisp: A Gentle Introduction to Symbolic Computation" is a smoother introduction to lisp programming. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/LispBook/ 02:14:11 do you have a problem with it? 02:14:16 thanks, I'll have a look 02:14:45 it seems a bit fast, I've not done C or Perl before and it assumes I've done one of them I think 02:14:59 I've programmed quite a bit in OCaml and Java, but not C or Perl 02:15:20 it doesn't assume that at all 02:15:37 KaiQ [~localhost@p5B2B1EF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 02:15:38 and your background is well suited for it 02:15:47 klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has joined #lisp 02:15:59 I'm not sure; I'll look at this other book 02:16:24 Lisp does look very pretty and is conveniently used to program Emacs, but it seems a lot more complicated than OCaml/Haskell 02:16:32 So I think I might need to take it slower 02:16:48 no, Haskell is much more complicated 02:17:35 It doesn't feel that way, if naught else 02:18:03 you may feel that way because you know it already 02:18:56 Learning (basic) Agda was easier than learning (basic) Common Lisp with that particular webiste 02:18:58 *website 02:19:38 maybe the language is somehow easy and I can't see it yet, cool 02:19:46 but as I said, it seems a lot more complicated than OCaml/Haskell 02:20:00 Corvidium [~cosman246@187.153.78.196] has joined #lisp 02:20:43 is OCaml/Haskell the new C/C++? 02:20:49 just even more bizarre 02:21:01 Not particularly, OCaml's just a language I know and enjoy 02:21:11 Xenasis: Have you used Haskell to do real application ? 02:21:24 Not Haskell, but I did make a music player with OCaml 02:21:27 i mean, why do you group them, they're not particularly alike 02:21:36 OCaml and Haskell are rather alike o.o 02:21:51 Haskell just has monads and default lazy 02:22:10 i like the way you say "just" 02:23:02 not really 02:23:34 Xenasis: then, CL is just like OCaml, but with parenthesis 02:23:50 Not at all 02:23:54 The syntax is entirely different 02:24:07 Not to mention the structure 02:24:49 Haskell can be read and understood by an OCaml programmer and Haskell can be read and understood by an OCaml programmer, assuming basic knowledge on eihter side 02:25:19 p_nathan2 [~Adium@174-21-165-174.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 02:25:30 (and good programming on both of their parts) 02:25:33 imagine how much of CL you could have learned instead of arguing 02:25:44 Guthur` [~user@eth2845.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 02:26:40 sfa_ [~sfa@208.66.156.12] has joined #lisp 02:27:11 Tordek_ 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Interpretation of Computer Programming. 02:57:34 SICP is Scheme rather than CL, of course. 02:59:49 Ethan- [~Ethan-@60-248-176-37.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 03:01:58 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-25-12-219.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:06:42 Scheme seems to be a reduced CL ? 03:06:52 no 03:07:03 it's a completely different language 03:07:11 really ? 03:07:11 boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 03:07:26 do you really have to say "really?"? 03:08:42 I just glimpsed Scheme and it didnot inspire my learning demands ... 03:09:46 inspiring learning demands? what does that even mean? 03:10:18 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-108-42-99-156.snfcca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 03:13:45 gienah [~mwright@gentoo/developer/gienah] has joined #lisp 03:14:29 zRecursive, One of the things I notice the most is that it doesn't have the lisp-2 stuff that cl has. 03:14:37 No using #' to refer to a function. 03:14:49 that's actually a pretty minor difference 03:16:18 zRecursive: they are similar in the same way that java and javascript are similar. the syntax is vaguely the same, but they work differently 03:17:35 -!- keen_ [~blackened@p73a2a7fb.wmaxuq00.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has left #lisp 03:19:43 -!- Xenasis [~quassel@212.56.121.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:20:20 -!- gabot [~eli@racket/bot/gabot] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:22:40 -!- davazp [~user@170.Red-83-63-202.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:25:11 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 03:25:26 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:25:33 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:25:46 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 03:26:58 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:27:30 -!- zacts [~user@unaffiliated/zacts] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 03:28:11 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-108-42-99-156.snfcca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:28:38 sellout- [~Adium@c-68-83-156-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 03:28:51 madnificent: I always regard Scheme as a classroom langauage. Maybe i am wrong though. 03:29:44 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 03:30:09 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:30:11 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-108-42-99-156.snfcca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 03:30:39 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 03:34:58 edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-109-193-013-113.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 03:35:20 vinian [~vinian@218.241.129.62] has joined #lisp 03:41:15 cdidd [~cdidd@37-144-37-136.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lisp 03:45:47 patbarron [~pat@lectroid.com] has joined #lisp 03:46:13 zacts [~zacts@unaffiliated/zacts] has joined #lisp 03:47:38 -!- JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-198-255-198-157.buffalo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:47:53 ejbs [~user@h82-117-106-112.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #lisp 03:48:54 I've got this new editor project on the tip of my tongue... I can't remember what it was called, all I remember is that it embedded language-awareness into the editor itself or something. Anyone got any clue what I'm talking about from these vague statements? 03:50:09 loke [~loke@203.127.16.194] has joined #lisp 03:54:29 Found it: http://projectured.org/ 03:59:04 leo2007 [~leo@222.130.178.200] has joined #lisp 03:59:23 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@37-144-37-136.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:10:11 -!- Guthur` [~user@eth2845.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:11:04 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:12:38 Guthur` [~user@eth2845.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 04:12:59 -!- ejbs [~user@h82-117-106-112.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:14:38 cdidd [~cdidd@95-28-197-163.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lisp 04:15:26 -!- yrdz [~p_adams@unaffiliated/p-adams/x-7117614] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:17:02 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@118-163-141-228.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:17:36 Ogion [~Ogion@96.Red-83-38-69.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 04:19:01 -!- smithzv [~user@99-71-111-56.lightspeed.whtnil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:24:46 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:26:20 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-68-83-156-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:27:48 lyanchih [~lyanchih@118-163-141-228.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 04:27:53 -!- nug700 [~nug700@71-223-57-66.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:29:33 kristof [~kristof@unaffiliated/kristof] has joined #lisp 04:29:38 -!- cneira [~cneira@pc-33-7-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:33:35 -!- LiamH [~none@pool-173-73-130-210.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:35:02 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@118-163-141-228.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:39:41 ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-28.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 04:44:04 sellout- [~Adium@c-68-83-156-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 04:45:56 nug700 [~nug700@75-167-35-21.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 04:46:53 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-108-42-99-156.snfcca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:58:50 organometallica [~bigsqueez@c-50-129-214-32.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 05:00:17 beach [~user@ABordeaux-651-1-234-131.w109-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 05:00:27 Good morning everyone! 05:02:30 G'mornin' 05:10:32 motionman [~motionman@unaffiliated/motionman] has joined #lisp 05:11:55 afternoon 05:12:10 lyanchih [~lyanchih@118-163-141-228.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 05:12:58 -!- motionman is now known as DoughnutProcesso 05:13:05 -!- DoughnutProcesso is now known as DonutProcesso 05:13:07 -!- DonutProcesso is now known as DonutProcessor 05:14:46 haxx [~Rob@135-23-80-105.cpe.pppoe.ca] has joined #lisp 05:17:24 alama [~jessealam@p57A78E5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 05:21:29 -!- kristof [~kristof@unaffiliated/kristof] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 05:22:17 -!- klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Examining code and documentation, it appears that I shouldn't need to convert my items to be of type heap-node myself. 05:40:14 This leads me to believe I'm doing it wrong. 05:47:39 -!- naryl [~weechat@46.182.24.168] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:47:54 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:49:37 naryl [~weechat@46.182.24.168] has joined #lisp 05:57:20 -!- Adlai [~Adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:58:10 Adlai [~Adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #lisp 06:02:07 quazimodo [~quazimodo@d110-33-11-211.bla800.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #lisp 06:04:21 -!- Ethan- [~Ethan-@60-248-176-37.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:08:37 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-28-197-163.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:09:51 -!- Adlai [~Adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:10:03 tesuji [~tesuji@unaffiliated/tesuji] has joined #lisp 06:11:51 -!- n0n0 [~n0n0___@2602:306:c410:500:d1b6:768f:8909:3492] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:15:11 angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has joined #lisp 06:16:05 -!- tesuji [~tesuji@unaffiliated/tesuji] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:16:09 hualet_deepin [~user@59.173.241.82] has joined #lisp 06:20:46 -!- hualet_deepin [~user@59.173.241.82] has left #lisp 06:22:45 n0n0 [~n0n0___@2602:306:c410:500:d1b6:768f:8909:3492] has joined #lisp 06:23:17 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@118-163-141-228.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: lyanchih] 06:26:50 tesuji [~tesuji@unaffiliated/tesuji] has joined #lisp 06:27:19 pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 06:27:55 STilda [~kvirc@188.162.166.31] has joined #lisp 06:28:34 -!- pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 06:30:03 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 06:30:34 cdidd [~cdidd@95-27-171-164.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lisp 06:34:31 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-68-83-156-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:36:15 -!- patbarron [~pat@lectroid.com] has quit [Quit: Exiting HexChat] 06:39:48 Adlai [~Adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #lisp 06:40:33 -!- Guthur` [~user@eth2845.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:42:18 Guthur` [~user@eth2845.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 06:42:46 lyanchih [~lyanchih@202.39.219.19] has joined #lisp 06:48:22 -!- alama [~jessealam@p57A78E5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 06:49:50 -!- antonv [5daba1b0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.171.161.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:50:09 -!- bgs100 [~nitrogen@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Quit: bgs100] 06:50:16 -!- n0n0 [~n0n0___@2602:306:c410:500:d1b6:768f:8909:3492] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:04:26 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@183.13.192.28] has left #lisp 07:05:10 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@147.30.98.207] has joined #lisp 07:05:11 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@147.30.98.207] has quit [Changing host] 07:05:11 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 07:06:35 -!- blacklabel [~user@c-71-202-128-245.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:08:31 nipra [~nipra@122.177.225.100] has joined #lisp 07:13:11 -!- quazimodo [~quazimodo@d110-33-11-211.bla800.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:15:48 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.220.55] has joined #lisp 07:17:25 blacklabel [~user@c-71-202-128-245.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 07:17:33 Harag [~Thunderbi@ti-228-191-192.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 07:20:56 arkiver [~arkiver@61.12.126.211] has joined #lisp 07:22:42 Hi. I am trying to create a small web app using Restas. I followed thier tut on setting up a hello world app. here is my code: https://gist.github.com/arkiver/8130807 07:22:50 but I keep getting a 404 in the browser when I visit localhost:8085 07:23:04 am I missing something in the code ? 07:23:10 or maybe configs? 07:23:56 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 07:24:06 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 07:28:46 alezost [~user@128-70-204-126.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lisp 07:31:20 Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 07:32:22 aap_ [~aap@85.183.44.54] has joined #lisp 07:39:22 -!- sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:44:25 MrWoohoo [~MrWoohoo@pool-74-100-140-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 07:48:12 -!- DonutProcessor is now known as OldGum 07:52:50 -!- nug700 [~nug700@75-167-35-21.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 07:56:48 fridim_ [~fridim@bas2-montreal07-2925317577.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 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has joined #lisp 15:13:05 -!- yfgyugs87fy [~m@197.121.106.111] has left #lisp 15:13:21 it already did stop 15:14:13 -!- Ethan- [~Ethan-@60-248-176-37.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:16:52 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: BBL] 15:20:01 pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 15:20:27 I think I will be extremely reluctant to help yfgyugs87fy if he or she needs Lisp help in the future. 15:21:53 nicholasbulka [~nicholasb@c-71-229-50-52.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:23:01 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 15:23:37 -!- Petit_Dejeuner [~saefa@c-174-48-40-89.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:24:29 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24:41 -!- pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 15:25:07 drmeister 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I've been experimenting with #'format using SBCL 1.0.57.0-2 and I've discovered that it does not always conform with the HyperSpec. eg) (format nil "~19,0,' ,4:B" 3333) causes entry to the debugger. 16:50:34 If, instead of the 0 I use '0, I get 000001101 0000 0101, which is not what the HyperSpec says. 16:50:41 your code is not conforming 16:51:30 (format nil "~19,0,' ,4:B" 3333) is the code in the HyperSpec 16:52:07 It causes entry to the SLIME debugger 16:52:19 -!- vinian [~vinian@124.202.190.196] has left #lisp 16:52:23 that code is not conforming, whatever you tell me 16:52:35 stassats: What should it be then? 16:53:08 clhs ~b 16:53:08 http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/22_cbc.htm 16:53:40 -!- BnMcGn [~ben@66.244.241.97] has quit [Quit: BnMcGn] 16:53:45 -!- m6502 [~user@lisp.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:54:13 the second argument is a character, so, it should be '0 16:55:12 bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 16:55:35 Ok. So with the quote, the form produces 000001101 0000 0101, which is not in the HyperSepc 16:55:40 *HyperSpec 16:56:00 and nowhere does it say that comma-interval is meant for splitting the padding 16:56:13 so, the result you get is fully conforming 16:56:24 flame_ [~flame_@unaffiliated/flame/x-0205742] has joined #lisp 16:56:39 -!- klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57:06 Ok, but the form (format "~19,10,1 ,4:B" 3333) does not produce what the HyperSpec says. 16:58:08 this is a doubly wrong form 16:58:16 Sorry. My mistyping: (format "~19,'0,' ,4:B" 3333) does not prodicdew 16:58:26 now, only one wrong thing 16:58:30 -!- flame_ [~flame_@unaffiliated/flame/x-0205742] has quit [Client Quit] 16:58:49 but, (format t "~19,'0,' ,4:B" 3333) produces exactly what CLHS prescribes 16:58:57 flame_ [~flame_@unaffiliated/flame/x-0205742] has joined #lisp 17:00:04 My copy of SBCL produces 000001101 0000 0101 for that last form. 17:00:42 As does my copy of CCL. You probably wanted to see 0000 1101 0000 0101, but the comma chars don't get interspersed with the pad chars 17:01:05 Poenikatu: as it should 17:01:16 clhs ~d 17:01:17 http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/22_cbb.htm 17:01:25 describes the behaviour 17:02:05 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 17:02:23 specbot: that refers to ~D 17:02:33 -!- antgreen_ [~green@CPE002454ac476b-CM0019477f82fc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:02:39 You could add #x10000 to the number, format it with ~,,' ,4:B, and remove the leading 1 17:03:10 stassats: Ah, just notice exactly what you produced, but ~D is not what the form uses. It uses ~B. 17:03:18 clhs ~b 17:03:18 http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/22_cbc.htm 17:03:27 -!- deadghost [~deadghost@pool-173-55-80-153.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:03:30 (format nil "~,,' ,4:B" (+ 3333 #x1000)) => "1 1101 0000 0101" 17:03:33 pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 17:03:46 So remove the leading "1 " 17:04:09 Ooops. (format nil "~,,' ,4:B" (+ 3333 #x10000)) => "1 0000 1101 0000 0101" 17:04:37 -!- tatsuhiko [~user@188.165.96.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:04:54 (subseq (format nil "~,,' ,4:B" (+ 3333 #x10000)) 2) => "0000 1101 0000 0101" 17:06:10 Poenikatu: if you read ~b, it says to read you the entry for ~d 17:06:15 billstclair: That's a lot of extra work just to reproduce what is in the CLHS. Which suggests that SBCL is not conforming with #'format. 17:07:15 it suggest that the example is wrong 17:07:25 examples are not part of the standard 17:07:46 The point is that the CLHS expression to produce the 32-bit rendering of 3333 in binary is not produced by SBCL: it throws me into the SLIME debugger. 17:07:55 it doesn't even pass the character correctly, no wonder its result is incorrect 17:08:00 antgreen_ [~green@CPE002454ac476b-CM0019477f82fc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #lisp 17:08:10 because it's the bloody example is wrong 17:08:33 stassats: Now, now! No need for that! 17:09:52 bgs100 [~nitrogen@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #lisp 17:10:11 clhs ~r 17:10:11 http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/22_cba.htm 17:11:15 On that page, although it deals with "Tilde R: Radix", the example using ~B is definitely wrong. 17:12:40 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:13:35 Sorry a bug in that example led you to believe that it's easier to do what you want than it really is 17:13:55 -!- Poenikatu [~user@pdpc/supporter/bronze/poenikatu] has left #lisp 17:13:57 -!- flame_ [~flame_@unaffiliated/flame/x-0205742] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:18:44 lduros` [~user@pool-98-115-155-232.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 17:19:56 -!- lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:20:00 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@85.110.81.192] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20:26 ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@85.110.81.192] has joined #lisp 17:21:39 -!- 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[~anonymous@104-252-AGAVEBB-NM.abq.nm.agavebb.net] has joined #lisp 20:17:54 https://answers.launchpad.net/sbcl/+question/74497 <-- any idea how to get the snippet Nikodemus working on more recent Windows SBCL? 20:18:03 -!- billitch [~billitch@men75-12-88-183-197-206.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:18:14 Is it possible to unassociate a symbol with (find-class symbol) ? 20:18:25 (so I can redefine a struct as a class without restarting my lisp) 20:18:29 (setf (find-class symbol) nil) 20:18:30 I used it before and it worked fine, but with 1.1.4.0 it breaks badly 20:18:32 naturally 20:18:44 thanks stassats` 20:18:52 guyal [~anonymous@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 20:19:15 silly of me not to try that, it makes perfect sense 20:19:47 the FDs have weird values (3, 7 and 11), and if I replace the standard streams, it dies horribly with all kinds of snafu, unable to display anything 20:23:38 -!- ahungry_ [~null@66.184.106.97] has quit 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That's the easiest way 20:30:25 mathrick: oh wait, which snippet from nokodemus are you talking about? 20:32:29 mathrick: have you tried this in your .emacs? (setq slime-net-coding-system 'utf-8-unix) ; It's possible that the deficiency in the windows port is fixed by now 20:32:40 -!- _schulte_ [~eschulte@71-222-160-57.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:33:20 -!- STilda [~kvirc@188.162.166.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:33:30 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 20:33:43 _schulte_ [~eschulte@71-222-160-57.albq.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 20:37:08 slime encoding doesn't matter anymore for quite some time 20:38:51 -!- wokko [~wokko@CPE-121-223-134-154.lns1.bat.bigpond.net.au] has left #lisp 20:39:28 wokko [~wokko@CPE-121-223-134-154.lns1.bat.bigpond.net.au] has joined #lisp 20:42:52 -!- wokko [~wokko@CPE-121-223-134-154.lns1.bat.bigpond.net.au] has left #lisp 20:43:17 wokko [~wokko@CPE-121-223-134-154.lns1.bat.bigpond.net.au] has joined #lisp 20:47:24 jasom: that doesn't help me, I need SBCL to read .lisp files in as UTF-8 20:47:59 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@88.231.56.107] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:48:34 ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@88.231.56.107] has joined #lisp 20:48:48 mathrick: and *default-external-format* doesn't do that? 20:49:10 doesn't seem to, no 20:49:23 I'm unsure why not 20:50:06 *jasom* is installing right now 20:50:30 my main win32 box had its fan die, so need to install a recent sbcl on ancient win32 b ox 20:51:26 It's a pentium M, so please be patient :) 20:52:54 tatsuhiko [~user@188.165.96.106] has joined #lisp 20:53:09 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@88.231.56.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:56:16 mathrick: works for me 20:57:20 *mathrick* huhs 20:57:30 -!- tatsuhiko [~user@188.165.96.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:58:31 wait, I'm an idiot, my test wasn't good enought 20:59:08 -!- Code_Man` [~Code_Man@2a02:1205:5057:b2c0:223:54ff:fe38:82c2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:15 okay, with better test, it works 21:01:26 -!- Kenjin [~kenjin@bl5-217-66.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:25 I made a file that was basically the result of (format f "(defparameter *foo* #\\~C)" (code-char 1000)) 21:03:45 loading it without setting sb-impl::*default-external-format* results in an error, setting sb-impl::*default-external-format* to :utf-8 loads it successfully 21:05:47 -!- knob [~knob@76.76.202.245] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:08:14 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:08:29 Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 21:08:39 -!- wokko [~wokko@CPE-121-223-134-154.lns1.bat.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:09:42 wokko [~wokko@CPE-121-223-134-154.lns1.bat.bigpond.net.au] has joined #lisp 21:09:51 jasom: aight, I'll poke it more then. Thanks 21:11:25 jasom: just to make sure, it's sb-impl::*default-external-format* external-format you're setting, right? 21:15:13 oh wait, you just said it later 21:15:43 -!- beach [~user@ABordeaux-651-1-234-131.w109-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #lisp 21:16:40 -!- stanislav [~stanislav@bl21-66-136.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:17:40 -!- guyal [~anonymous@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: The Sleeper has Asleepen] 21:20:00 qqc [~user@cable-146-255-155-156.dynamic.telemach.ba] has joined #lisp 21:20:10 -!- qqc [~user@cable-146-255-155-156.dynamic.telemach.ba] has left #lisp 21:20:45 guyal [~anonymous@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 21:21:41 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:22:03 -!- Bike [~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:22:33 -!- guyal 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[~user@h82-117-106-112.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #lisp 22:24:32 you can just go away 22:24:56 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o p_l 22:25:11 -!- jaccas [~pjfcl@3.182.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Client Quit] 22:25:21 How come that REQ isn't macroexpanded as expected? Is it because case is a macro? http://paste.lisp.org/display/140687 22:25:28 jaccas [~pjfcl@3.182.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lisp 22:25:58 not because case is a macro, but because that's not how case works 22:26:33 stassats`: Care to elaborate? 22:26:56 it's not how evaluation works 22:27:02 there's nothing to elaborate on 22:27:34 Yeah, that's what I assumed. So is there any way to fix it? 22:28:46 turn req into a function, write a macro that expands to case and in which you use that function 22:28:50 ejbs: change req into flet from macrolet 22:29:36 fe[nl]ix: Haha, yeah, that's exactly what I did as I waited for replies; thanks 22:30:18 i'm failing to see how changing into flet from macrolet is going to work 22:30:31 oh, I thought request was a macro 22:30:58 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.107.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:31:12 -!- alexherbo2 [~alexherbo@mawercer.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 22:31:14 -!- MithrilTuxedo [~MithrilTu@66-162-141-202.static.twtelecom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:31:43 I completely misunderstood what that was trying to do 22:33:01 "[...] the consequences are undefined if the local macro definitions reference any local variable or function bindings that are visible in that lexical environment." - Ouch, I didn't expect that. 22:34:13 (case (car args) . #.(loop for x in '(:thread :page :catalogue :threads :all) collect `(,x (,(intern (format nil "~a-~a" 'request x)) (cdr args))))) 22:34:56 ejbs: how did you expect that to work? 22:36:04 ejbs http://paste.lisp.org/+30JZ/1 22:37:11 -!- Davidbrcz_ [~david@88.115.137.88.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:37:40 ejbs: you can still emit *code* that has symbols that are local variables or function bindings; you just cant try to evaluate them in your macro 22:42:08 -!- nug700 [~nug700@75-167-35-21.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 22:42:14 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.220.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:42:40 jasom: Yeah, I know. stassats`: I don't really see why it wouldn't work :/ 22:42:58 because macros are expanded during compilation 22:42:59 nug700 [~nug700@75-167-35-21.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 22:43:03 macros are expected to be expanded ahead of time and once 22:43:17 how do you see that working? 22:43:26 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p4FFF0C29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:43:41 Oh right, yeah. D'uh, I totally see what you mean 22:46:01 jasom: FWIW, I found out why it wasn't taking effect, and the answer involves buildapp and me generating buildapp images with wrong settings. I got it solved, so thanks for setting me on the right track 22:46:12 mathrick: no problem 22:47:56 -!- fortitude [~mts@rrcs-24-97-165-124.nys.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:49:09 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:49:51 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-165-95.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:51:07 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-165-95.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 22:52:18 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:30 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:53:16 ejbs` [~user@h82-117-106-112.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #lisp 22:54:27 tatsuhiko [~user@188.165.96.106] has joined #lisp 22:55:00 -!- ejbs [~user@h82-117-106-112.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:56:55 Code_Man` [~Code_Man@2a02:1205:5057:b2c0:223:54ff:fe38:82c2] has joined #lisp 22:57:15 -!- rvchangue [~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:58:13 BountyX [~andrew@76.14.65.87] has joined #lisp 22:59:17 -!- tatsuhiko [~user@188.165.96.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:59:46 rvchangue [~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue] has joined #lisp 23:02:20 -!- ejbs` [~user@h82-117-106-112.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has left #lisp 23:02:47 drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.107.209] has joined #lisp 23:04:22 bigsqueeze_ [~bigsqueez@c-50-129-214-32.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:04:54 -!- H4ns [hans@netzhansa.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:06:24 -!- sirdancealo2 [~sirdancea@194.228.11.172] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:06:25 sirdancealo2 [~sirdancea@194.228.11.172] has joined #lisp 23:06:26 -!- Anarch [~olaf@c-67-183-64-49.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:06:26 Anarch [~olaf@c-67-183-64-49.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:07:15 -!- rvchangue [~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:07:24 -!- organometallica [~bigsqueez@c-50-129-214-32.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:14:51 -!- chenjf [~chenjf@124.42.244.245] has left #lisp 23:15:27 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.107.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:15:31 -!- BountyX [~andrew@76.14.65.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16:29 -!- LiamH [~healy@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:22:53 BountyX [~andrew@76.14.65.87] has joined #lisp 23:29:29 lyanchih [~lyanchih@220-134-193-4.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 23:30:19 Ethan- [~Ethan-@60-248-176-37.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 23:30:43 yrdz [~p_adams@unaffiliated/p-adams/x-7117614] has joined #lisp 23:33:46 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: ZzZz] 23:36:49 -!- yrdz [~p_adams@unaffiliated/p-adams/x-7117614] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 23:37:13 yrdz [~p_adams@unaffiliated/p-adams/x-7117614] has joined #lisp 23:38:40 yrk [~user@c-50-133-134-220.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:38:53 -!- yrk [~user@c-50-133-134-220.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:38:53 yrk [~user@pdpc/supporter/student/yrk] has joined #lisp 23:40:36 -!- KaiQ [~localhost@p5B2B1E1A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:57 zRecursive [~czsq888@183.12.89.54] has joined #lisp 23:44:38 davazp [~user@170.Red-83-63-202.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 23:47:19 -!- harish [~harish@175.156.103.98] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:49:12 -!- haxx [~Rob@135-23-80-105.cpe.pppoe.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49:15 Sgeo [~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 23:50:00 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@220-134-193-4.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:51:18 rvchangue [~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue] has joined #lisp 23:55:05 tatsuhiko [~user@188.165.96.106] has joined #lisp 23:55:43 -!- BountyX [~andrew@76.14.65.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:59:55 -!- Code_Man` [~Code_Man@2a02:1205:5057:b2c0:223:54ff:fe38:82c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]