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Anyone here tried to install (update) inferior-lisp from the latest quicklisp ? 05:03:36 I'm getting: Component :ASDF does not match version 3.0.3, required by 05:03:36 # 05:04:09 I get the same error 05:04:24 I was under the impression quicklisp is deploying it's own asdf ... 05:04:43 try (asdf:upgrade-asdf) maybe 05:04:53 No good 05:16:05 axion [~axion@139.sub-70-197-195.myvzw.com] has joined #lisp 05:19:13 hillgreen [~gxd@182.48.115.163] has joined #lisp 05:20:17 -!- theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:20:46 theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has joined #lisp 05:22:29 desophos [~desophos@cpe-23-240-149-52.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 05:23:05 -!- kobain [~sambio@unaffiliated/kobain] has quit [] 05:23:35 well when looking at inferior-shell.asd, it seems that it breaks whenever asdf3 is installed but the asdf version is < 3.0.3; for systems that don't have asdf3 installed, uiop 3.0.3 is choosen instead; manually removing the asdf3 dependency 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Maybe stupid question but... Why #((+ 1 2)) evaluates to #((+ 1 2)) in slime repl and not to #(3) ? 07:31:31 #(...) makes a vector out of whatever the reader produces: there's no evaluation. 07:31:37 If you want that, use (vector ...) 07:31:39 the #( reader macro does not cause evaluation. #(a b c) will return a vector with the 3 symbols A, B and C 07:33:52 jewel_ [~jewel@105-236-20-117.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 07:34:04 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-236-138-104.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:36:23 przl [~przlrkt@p5792340D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 07:37:04 (vector (+ 1 2)) => #(3) 07:37:22 tatsushiko [~tatsushik@250-81-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined #lisp 07:38:00 alezost [~user@128-70-193-8.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lisp 07:38:25 -!- ryankarason is now known as rk[zzz] 07:45:06 zeebrah [~zeebrah@unaffiliated/zeebrah] has joined #lisp 07:48:11 ok, thank you. Another question. For (aref #((+ 1 2)) 0) repl prints (+ 1 2) in output. But what is this? It is not a string. When I type evaluate * it prints (+ 1 2) again. Is it an object of type "s-expr"? 07:48:34 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5792340D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:49:25 why don't you ask your repl with TYPE-OF? 07:49:54 it's a list. 07:50:35 -!- zeebrah [~zeebrah@unaffiliated/zeebrah] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:50:41 Kenjin [~kenjin@180.189.170.46] has joined #lisp 07:50:56 seangrov` [~user@c-69-181-197-122.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 07:51:08 (type-of (aref #((+ 1 2)) 0)) => CONS 07:51:41 ah, sorry, you right, thank you 07:52:43 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@183.13.192.9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:53:08 schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-056-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 07:55:08 TDog_ [~chatzilla@67-1-156-139.tcso.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 07:56:38 -!- alezost [~user@128-70-193-8.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:57:05 -!- TDog [~chatzilla@67-1-156-139.tcso.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:57:18 -!- TDog_ is 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Posterdati: what do you mean by apply operators to test specifier? (remove-if #'foo bar :test #'(alexandria:curry #'and whatever))? 11:08:09 s/#'(/(/ 11:08:47 yes 11:08:50 is it possible 11:08:53 ? 11:09:22 Wait, I'm idiot. REMOVE-IF doesn't take :test. 11:09:46 remove-if (and lambda1 lambda2) ... 11:10:00 yes 11:10:09 sorry it hasn't got a :test key 11:10:50 (remove-if #'(lambda (x) (and (funcall #'foo x) (funcall #'bar x))) baz) 11:11:45 Is that what you asked? 11:12:41 ok, but I need the possibility to combine different operators to different lambdas 11:13:32 Write a macro/function then. 11:13:54 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 11:14:02 zeebrah [~zeebrah@unaffiliated/zeebrah] has joined #lisp 11:14:04 It can't be done using raw REMOVE-IF. 11:15:11 -!- Pullphinger [~Pullphing@c-24-13-69-42.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [] 11:18:42 ok 11:24:36 (funcall (or (where1 :kind 'voltage-source) 11:24:36 (where1 :kind 'current-source)) (make-instance 'bipole-class :kind 'current-source)) 11:25:42 -!- kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25:47 TDog_ [~chatzilla@67-1-156-139.tcso.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 11:26:13 hitecnologys: where1 return a lambda function object that actually do the test 11:27:02 -!- TDog [~chatzilla@67-1-156-139.tcso.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:27:13 -!- TDog_ is now known as TDog 11:27:46 is it possible to pass parameters via funcall to lambdas in that way? 11:30:15 therik [~therik@164.215.13.231] has joined #lisp 11:30:29 -!- zeebrah [~zeebrah@unaffiliated/zeebrah] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:31:47 Posterdati: well, no. 11:32:21 -!- Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-56-209.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:33:03 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:35:41 does lambda got parameters from funcall's parameters list? 11:35:57 stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has joined #lisp 11:37:05 No, OR is a function that evaluates each of its arguments until one returns true value. 11:37:12 -!- tatsushiko [~user@188.165.96.106] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:37:57 ok 11:38:01 -!- cmatei [~cmatei@78.96.108.146] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:38:11 or would be applied to a function object 11:38:15 tatsushiko [~user@188.165.96.106] has joined #lisp 11:39:13 No, result of evaluation of OR would be. 11:39:45 (funcall (or (lambda (x) 11:39:45 (format t "lambda 1: ~a~%" x)) 11:39:45 (lambda (x) 11:39:45 (format t "lambda 2: ~a~%" x))) "ciao") 11:39:53 lambda 1: ciao 11:39:53 NIL 11:40:33 -!- effy [~quassel@123.118.169.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:41:21 (lambda (x) (format t "lambda 1: ~a~%" x)) is true value so OR returns it and then it gets called by FUNCALL with argument "ciao". 11:41:30 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:42:18 -!- paul0 [~paul0@187.112.76.236] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:43:11 zickzackv [~faot@port-92-198-30-130.static.qsc.de] has joined #lisp 11:44:00 Stygia [~gmpsaifi@193.104.83.223] has joined #lisp 11:44:42 zeebrah [~zeebrah@unaffiliated/zeebrah] has joined #lisp 11:45:02 Ayey_ [~rune1@0309ds7-ar.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #lisp 11:46:08 paul0 [~paul0@177.16.203.28] has joined #lisp 11:51:12 tatsushiko_ [~tatsushik@250-81-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined #lisp 11:51:39 -!- ASau [~user@p54AFE18E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:52:04 -!- bjorkintosh [~bjork@ip68-13-229-200.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:52:58 -!- hillgreen [~gxd@182.48.115.163] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:53:53 ASau [~user@p54AFE18E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 11:54:43 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:55:15 TDog_ [~chatzilla@67-1-156-139.tcso.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 11:56:15 -!- ASau [~user@p54AFE18E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:56:56 Posterdati: is this what you need http://paste.lisp.org/display/140351? 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12:23:17 Posterdati: translates (and function function (or function function)) or something like that to (lambda (x) (and (funcall function x) ...)). 12:23:29 ah ok 12:23:47 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 12:23:52 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:23:53 -!- ASau` is now known as ASau 12:24:09 -!- ASau is now known as ASau` 12:26:35 przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has joined #lisp 12:27:26 -!- ASau` is now known as ASau 12:30:58 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:31:55 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 12:34:44 hitecnologys: tx 12:36:09 -!- alexherbo2 [~alexherbo@APlessis-Bouchard-154-1-91-113.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:38:22 breakds [~breakds@c-24-0-147-122.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 12:39:40 Posterdati: rx 12:40:09 http://paste.lisp.org/display/140351#1 12:40:29 Pullphinger [~Pullphing@12.40.23.68] has joined #lisp 12:42:28 -!- tatsushiko_ [~tatsushik@250-81-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:43:12 kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has joined #lisp 12:46:43 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:49:31 przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has joined #lisp 12:52:02 -!- Sgeo_ [~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:39 cmatei [~cmatei@78.96.108.146] has joined #lisp 12:55:56 -!- danielszmulewicz [~daniel@5.144.63.25] has quit [Quit: danielszmulewicz] 12:56:36 "The code was lambda crazy. Hiro found one peculiar function which returned a lambda that itself returned a lambda which also returned a lambda- down seven layers deep. 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17:19:12 it's too bad QL doesn't include system descriptions and index them with montezuma or similar 17:19:26 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:19:32 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:20:45 http://quickdocs.org/? 17:21:53 nice but it'd be nicer to be able to use it from a repl 17:22:03 (perhaps you can, i don't see a quickdocs system though) 17:23:05 why not cl-system-searcher 17:23:26 wrong name: https://github.com/tkych/quicksearch 17:24:07 "why not ...?" is almost certainly because "things ae hard to search for" 17:24:47 but, nice, basically what i was after .. what's with the odd keywords though 17:27:28 -!- zickzackv [~faot@port-92-198-30-130.static.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:27:42 pierpa [~user@host241-242-dynamic.35-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 17:30:24 eudoxia_ [~eudoxia@r186-54-5-69.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #lisp 17:30:46 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Given all the options at this point, I have not really been motivated to pursue it 18:44:06 bobbysmith007: that's a bit more specifically oriented toward functions it seems, but neat! 18:44:33 oGMo: no it indexes all available documentation, functions macros variables and classes (at least I am pretty sure) 18:44:48 It also indexes READMEs if they are availabel 18:44:51 -!- LiamH [~none@aes048169.nrl.navy.mil] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:45:49 bobbysmith007: ah cool. i'm looking more for an index of stuff not currently available (depending on your definition of "available" .. mine is "not downloaded") 18:46:31 oGMo: http://lisp-search.acceleration.net/ is a web interface to that library, there is also a doc-index (that is probably incomplete) but was trying to get all libraries in quicklisp 18:47:21 noted 18:47:33 -!- TDog [~chatzilla@67-1-156-139.tcso.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:47:41 so while initially the library just indexes the current image, you can load up the full index and search that as well... unfortunately, its not a trivial task to build and index everything in quicklisp and I think that is the part that is out of date 18:47:49 TDog [~chatzilla@67-1-156-139.tcso.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 18:47:50 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:48:35 -!- cmack [~charlie@70-90-152-81-Knoxville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:49:18 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:57:09 -!- ivan\ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:01:53 deepestthought42 [~user@rklawitter.triumf.ca] has joined #lisp 19:02:03 -!- Petit_Dejeuner [~saefa@c-174-48-40-89.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:02:52 -!- pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:08 TDog_ [~chatzilla@67-1-156-139.tcso.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 19:04:30 -!- TDog [~chatzilla@67-1-156-139.tcso.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:04:33 -!- TDog_ is now known as TDog 19:05:54 hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 19:06:08 Petit_Dejeuner [~saefa@c-174-48-40-89.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:06:28 cory786 [~cory@CK-Laptop.wifi.utoledo.edu] has joined #lisp 19:06:33 -!- deepestthought42 [~user@rklawitter.triumf.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:08:23 -!- _5kg [~zifeitong@60.191.2.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:08:48 klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has joined #lisp 19:09:12 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:11:02 -!- doomlord_ [~servitor@host86-160-0-102.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:12:40 desophos [~desophos@cpe-23-240-149-52.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 19:14:11 _5kg [~zifeitong@60.191.2.238] has joined #lisp 19:15:52 abeaumont [~abeaumont@77.231.228.138] has joined #lisp 19:16:11 doomlord_ [~servitor@host86-184-12-200.range86-184.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 19:16:19 -!- Tarential [~Tarential@li421-205.members.linode.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 19:16:20 -!- klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:40 Tarential [~Tarential@li421-205.members.linode.com] has joined #lisp 19:22:25 klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has joined #lisp 19:23:45 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:23:49 -!- Davidbrcz [~david@88.115.137.88.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:29:24 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:29:37 drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has joined #lisp 19:31:02 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:31:29 -!- Patzy [~something@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-151-137.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:31:32 drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has joined #lisp 19:31:46 Patzy [~something@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-151-137.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 19:34:04 blacklabel [~user@c-76-21-124-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:35:43 Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has joined #lisp 19:35:50 -!- Shlohmo [~shlmrahim@g225131190.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:36:23 -!- Joreji [~thomas@157-103.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:41:26 zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 19:41:30 -!- klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz] 19:42:11 -!- AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:04 AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has joined #lisp 19:45:20 -!- Tarential [~Tarential@li421-205.members.linode.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 19:45:42 Tarential [~Tarential@li421-205.members.linode.com] has joined #lisp 19:48:45 -!- AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:48:53 do an handler-bind function closes over local bindings where it's lexically defined? 19:49:23 Yes. 19:50:04 That's what lets you handle the error, ie. making a non local exit such as return-from (of course, you could also do a non local exit with throw, which is not lexical). 19:50:13 -!- zenoli is now known as DOCTOR_zenoli 19:50:23 (let ((foo "x")) (handler-bind ((condition #'(lambda (c) (do-something-with foo)))) (some code))) is ok then? 19:50:42 AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has joined #lisp 19:50:54 the return-from can't reference the block where the handler-bind is defined or can it? 19:52:50 perfectly. 19:52:56 Shlohmo [~shlmrahim@g225131190.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #lisp 19:53:46 hiredman [~hiredman@volyova.ec2.thelastcitadel.com] has joined #lisp 19:53:54 (define-condition se (condition) ()) (let ((e 0)) (handler-bind ((se (lambda (c) (incf e)))) (loop repeat 10 do (signal 'se))) e) --> 10 19:54:08 -!- AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:54:21 AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has joined #lisp 19:54:38 Notice, se is a condition not an error; it would work as well with an error, but being a condition shows that it's not something fatal, just something signaled. 19:54:49 if I want to use a 32bit shared library(native) from a 64bit sbcl, am I in for a world of pain? 19:54:59 Yes. 19:55:00 hiredman: just can't be done 19:55:03 is the short answer. 19:55:17 sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has joined #lisp 19:55:19 well, that was very clear, thanks :) 19:55:21 You could with a lot of work, do it. Not worth it though. 19:55:45 I mean, you have the sources no? Just recompile it in 64-bit! :-) 19:55:46 hiredman: you fork a 32-bit process 19:55:46 Fare, memo from dim: https://github.com/qitab/qmynd/pull/2 19:55:46 Just upgraded to asdf-3 and (push pathname asdf:*central-registry*) doesn't seem to work anymore. How do I do this now? 19:55:46 it would be easier to just call a 32-bit sbcl 19:55:58 you could make a wrapper that switches to 32-bit mode and back, but that's not trivial 19:56:02 or you use a software emulator (ouch) 19:56:10 there are probably 32-bit thunking libs for linux but i don't think any are wrapped 19:56:25 -!- AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:42 Hey! already this discussion is too much work just to use a library! That should be a no-brainer! 19:56:53 AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has joined #lisp 19:57:31 pjb: what, you don't want a "managed" fork of qemu in compliant lisp? 19:58:00 what possible can be slower 19:58:06 possibly 19:58:37 nevermind, just have to push to it before any asdf operations are run 19:58:44 -!- ggole [~ggole@106-68-238-139.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 19:59:08 -!- Shlohmo [~shlmrahim@g225131190.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:59:54 stassats: software emulation of x86 in your lisp 20:00:36 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 20:00:42 unless "fork of qemu in compliant lisp" meant "complete rewrite of qemu in CL discarding hardware virtualization", but that seems a stretch 20:00:42 oGMo: right, that's what i was refereeing to, what can be slower than that? 20:01:11 qemu emulation is excruciatingly slow as it is 20:01:55 well you could rewrite jslinux in CL 20:01:56 Vivitron [~Vivitron@c-50-172-44-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:01:59 I think that's even slower 20:02:20 in fact jslinux boots in about 6s 20:02:21 stassats: calling out to serial port lego turing machine implementation, but now we're just being impractical ;) 20:04:17 really all you need is to use a 32-bit sbcl or ask why you're stuck with a 32-bit lib to begin with .. let's not confuse a solution with the problem 20:04:30 -!- guyal [~anonymous@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: The Sleeper has Asleepen] 20:07:33 -!- cory786 [~cory@CK-Laptop.wifi.utoledo.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:08:11 -!- ramkrsna [ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:47 hiyosi [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has joined #lisp 20:09:01 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:10:11 -!- nipra [~nipra@122.177.22.21] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:10:51 -!- CatMtKing [~CatMtKing@ed-uluka.dyn.ucr.edu] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:12:22 CatMtKing [~CatMtKing@ed-uluka.dyn.ucr.edu] has joined #lisp 20:12:32 lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has joined #lisp 20:13:20 -!- hiyosi [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:14:18 hiyosi [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has joined #lisp 20:14:26 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 20:14:38 Shlohmo [~shlmrahim@g225131190.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #lisp 20:18:04 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 20:19:11 -!- hiyosi [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:21:08 pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 20:27:46 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30:35 -!- xotedend [~quassel@23-25-110-173-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30:53 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #lisp 20:31:08 Sean-Der [~sean@onshore-gw.logika.net] has joined #lisp 20:33:42 bgs100 [~nitrogen@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #lisp 20:34:43 -!- schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-056-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:35:18 -!- rainbyte [~rainbyte@190.191.129.32] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:35:49 -!- STilda [~kvirc@188.162.166.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:36:35 -!- arbscht [~arbscht@fsf/member/arbscht] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:41:11 -!- AlterSid [~sid@altersid.net] has left #lisp 20:45:42 Davidbrcz [~david@88.115.137.88.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 20:48:29 Yanez [~Thunderbi@159.178.28.52] has joined #lisp 20:53:30 kaygun_ [~kaygun@78.180.97.71] has joined #lisp 20:53:45 -!- Shlohmo [~shlmrahim@g225131190.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:03:11 nug700 [~nug700@70-58-115-243.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 21:05:55 LiamH [~healy@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has joined #lisp 21:05:56 -!- JuanDaugherty [~juand@cpe-198-255-198-157.buffalo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:07:29 Why rewrite jslinux in CL? Just use a js-in-CL implementation! (duck) 21:08:40 dim: yes, rebase can help 21:08:54 yeah, will do 21:09:15 wanted to show the mind process in getting from the previous situation to the current one, but it's counter productive apparently 21:10:02 alexherbo2 [~alexherbo@APlessis-Bouchard-154-1-91-113.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 21:10:51 klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has joined #lisp 21:13:02 add^_ [~user@m176-70-208-95.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 21:13:54 dim: I obviously need more sleep 21:14:09 sleep is underrated 21:14:21 hiyosi [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has joined #lisp 21:14:31 and well, good night ;-) 21:14:35 most of my review remarks are bogus. Sigh. 21:14:37 Thanks 21:14:46 and thanks for the code 21:15:37 I didn't want to fix the memory usage of cl-mysql, because I have this supiscion that it happens either in the mysql .so lib or in the CFFI layer... 21:15:47 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:15:50 so thanks for open source qmynd in a way that I could see about using it! 21:15:58 s/source/sourcing/ 21:16:16 it's not as beefy as cl-mysql yet, tho 21:16:26 so if you see low handing fruits, have at it 21:17:47 too tired to see anything at this point. 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