00:03:30 sdfg 00:05:00 what is this, canada? 00:05:51 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:06:37 From where I'm sitting, yes. 00:07:03 Pullphinger [~Pullphing@c-24-13-69-42.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 00:08:48 -!- Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:10:18 -!- tw__ [~tw@192.95.182.51] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:17:34 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-67-9.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 00:20:52 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 00:21:52 drmeister [~drmeister@wsip-174-79-188-132.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lisp 00:25:43 c107 [~user@unaffiliated/c107] has joined #lisp 00:25:51 (want (kill all-people)) 00:37:13 kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has joined #lisp 00:38:40 tw__ [~tw@192.95.182.51] has joined #lisp 00:38:43 (hi kliph) 00:38:52 ( hi tw__ ) 00:39:10 Hey c107 00:41:18 (want (kill everybody)) 00:41:45 (defun ((want (kill everybody)))) 00:41:53 k0001_ [~k0001@host182.181-1-205.telecom.net.ar] has joined #lisp 00:42:51 What are some things you all have written in lisp? I'm very new and looking for inspiration. 00:43:42 (defun ((want (write wiki-dict-el)))) 00:44:04 ( defun (( want nil ))) 00:44:30 It's okay to use English. 00:44:50 -!- k0001 [~k0001@181.110.69.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:45:12 stumbles [~stumbles@2001:44b8:41c5:9600:d03b:deaf:ebdd:196] has joined #lisp 00:45:50 (why (((use english) #t))) 00:46:18 tw__: cliki has lotsa stuff 00:46:34 (where-is cliki) 00:46:52 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@c-50-172-44-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47:02 Stop that. 00:47:05 Perfect, checking it out now. 00:48:30 (prove (stop lisp)) 00:48:42 -!- k0001_ [~k0001@host182.181-1-205.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:51:01 Yuck 00:51:11 -!- pillton [~user@140.253.50.147] has left #lisp 00:52:00 victor_lowther [~victor.lo@2602:306:36c6:fe40:3ea9:f4ff:fe31:5798] has joined #lisp 00:52:31 (why 'yuck) 00:53:27 -!- ivan__ is now known as ivan 00:53:28 -!- ivan 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My setup: In defsystem i have (:depends-on (:cl-redis)), and in package for that system i have (:use :cl-redis). It fails on (SB-INT:%FIND-PACKAGE-OR-LOSE "CL-REDIS"). 11:08:42 chenjf [~chenjf@183.44.27.226] has joined #lisp 11:08:48 Moreover (asdf:load-system 'cl-redis) works. :/ 11:10:16 That happens when i try to load my system via ql:quickload. 11:10:23 drmeister [~drmeister@wsip-174-79-188-132.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lisp 11:10:26 -!- p_nathan1 [~Adium@216.57.209.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:10:53 Try: (list-packages) 11:11:25 Okasu: don't confuse system with packages. 11:11:56 ogamita: I'm not confusing it. 11:12:20 Yes you are. You're using the name cl-redis which is the name of the system, instead of the name "REDIS" which is the name of the package. 11:13:11 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-ho1.unidsl.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:13:16 ogamita: Oh, my bad, thanks. :) 11:13:46 Okasu: when you (ql:quickload :cl-redis), it displays the name of the packages that are created. 11:14:45 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 11:15:06 Karl_dscc [~localhost@p5DD9D93D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 11:17:33 -!- motionman [~motionman@unaffiliated/motionman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17:39 arnsa [arnas@78-63-18-208.static.zebra.lt] has joined #lisp 11:25:42 -!- Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-112-91.lns20.bne4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:26:08 oudeis [~oudeis@91.135.102.94] has joined #lisp 11:27:23 EvW1 [~Thunderbi@a82-92-190-215.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #lisp 11:27:42 -!- EvW [~Thunderbi@a82-92-190-215.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:28:21 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 11:29:10 -!- victor_lowther [~victor.lo@2602:306:36c6:fe40:3ea9:f4ff:fe31:5798] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:31:07 -!- antgreen [~green@12.197.155.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:32:45 antgreen [~green@12.197.155.98] has joined #lisp 11:34:02 zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 11:34:58 Guys, trying to change file ownership. Neither OSICAT, nor CL-FAD, nor UIOP seem to provide a function. Any hints? 11:35:35 normanrichards [~normanric@70.114.215.220] has joined #lisp 11:37:21 davazp [~user@92.251.243.155.threembb.ie] has joined #lisp 11:37:47 victor_lowther [~victor.lo@2602:306:36c6:fe40:3ea9:f4ff:fe31:5798] has joined #lisp 11:44:00 mcsontos [mcsontos@nat/redhat/x-qlaqzeuvhzfrgjxo] has joined #lisp 11:44:43 maxpeck [~a@unaffiliated/maxpeck] has joined #lisp 11:45:26 -!- oudeis [~oudeis@91.135.102.94] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:46:18 -!- Hydan [~hydan@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:47:05 oudeis [~oudeis@91.135.102.94] has joined #lisp 11:49:31 -!- clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:51:21 trebor_home [~email@dslb-188-107-168-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 11:51:40 -!- oudeis [~oudeis@91.135.102.94] has quit [Client Quit] 11:51:58 stumbles [~stumbles@2001:44b8:41c5:9600:3423:9dce:4b4c:eea2] has joined #lisp 11:56:20 lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has 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[~baumy@unaffiliated/jbaumy93] has joined #lisp 14:47:30 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:48:15 why does (cdadr x), with x defined like this: (setq x '(a (b c) d e)) give '(C)' 14:48:27 and (cadadr x) gives 'C' ? 14:49:04 that's how it's defined 14:49:24 I guess I'm not getting what's different between '(C)' and 'C' 14:49:37 one is a list, one is an atom? but I would have expected cdadr to give me the atom.. 14:49:39 the parenthesis 14:50:14 on what are you basing your expectations? 14:50:23 loke_erc [~user@2400:d803:7342:f91a:b0c5:61c9:44d3:b35] has joined #lisp 14:50:37 -!- kiuma [~kiuma@88-149-138-107.v4.ngi.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:50:50 (cdadr x) == (cdr (car (cdr x))) 14:50:56 no go figure out what cdr and car do 14:51:12 s/no/now/ 14:51:33 baumy: cdadr => (cdr (car (cdr x))) so the outermost cdr gives you the "rest" of whatever is returned by the car 14:51:49 cdr,car,cdr, ((a (b c) d e)), cdr: ((bc)....), car (b c), cdr: (c) 14:52:02 ohhhh, so the tail part is still a list 14:52:10 yeah 14:52:32 cdr,car,cdr,car just gets the c out of (c) when compared 14:53:06 alright I understand it now 14:53:19 thanks samebchase 14:54:19 -!- prip [~foo@host232-121-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:54:34 -!- mshroyer [~mshroyer@legolas.paleogene.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 14:54:41 prip [~foo@host232-121-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 14:55:29 clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has joined #lisp 14:56:17 baumy: note that (cdr '(a . c)) will be c 14:56:33 ah 14:57:24 I started learning lisp yesterday, no idea what the '.' does there 14:57:49 -!- segv- [~mb@95-91-243-234-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57:50 then you can carry on learning it 14:57:55 will do 14:57:56 what are you using to learn? 14:58:05 doomlord_ [~servitor@host109-151-64-15.range109-151.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 14:58:18 my AI class and this http://cs.gmu.edu/~sean/lisp/LispTutorial.html 14:58:28 drmeister [~drmeister@166.216.136.162] has joined #lisp 14:58:30 it's probably no good 14:58:33 it's a cons pair (a . c) == (cons a (cons c)) 14:58:35 duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has joined #lisp 14:58:42 without the trailing nil 14:58:44 oleo: no 14:58:46 -!- sttau [~sttau@unaffiliated/sttau] has left #lisp 14:58:48 oleo: you made a mistake there 14:58:50 oleo: can you just stop? 14:59:01 cons takes two arguments oleo 14:59:03 minion: please tell baumy about PCL 14:59:04 baumy: have a look at PCL: pcl-book: "Practical Common Lisp", an introduction to Common Lisp by Peter Seibel, available at http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ and in dead-tree form from Apress (as of 11 April 2005). 14:59:10 segv- [~mb@95-91-243-234-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 14:59:38 I read in several places thats definitely the best place to start, but I have to pick this up and run with it within a few days 14:59:40 ah yes (cons a c) 15:00:00 that tutorial didn't pass the setf-without-defvar check 15:00:43 stassats: man, it's even worse. It's not just lazy, it's just wrong. Look at the comment about SETF 15:01:05 Still arguably wrong, since dotted pairs only make sense for quoted lists. 15:01:19 ggole: why? 15:01:19 androcles [~Jeff@sporkula.ss.uci.edu] has joined #lisp 15:01:23 (cons 'a 'c) == (a . c), (cons 'a (cons 'c nil)) == (a c) 15:01:34 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01:52 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 15:02:03 ggole: you can do stuff like (+ 1 2 . #.some-variable) 15:02:29 so what I'm gathering is that the tutorial i linked sacrifices correctness for the sake of brevity 15:02:36 PCL it is I guess 15:02:39 zacharias_ [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 15:03:22 baumy: Anyone using a source that sacrifices correctless for brevity deserves neither a correct nor brief learning path 15:03:24 loke_erc, is that really "sensible"? 15:03:32 I didn't know it did that =) 15:03:39 But ok, I retract the statement. 15:03:48 ggole: I've seen it. In some (agruably obscure) cases, it's more sensible than the alternative 15:04:07 (apply #'+ 1 2 some-var)? 15:04:11 <``Erik> pcl is a great book, I'm definitely glad I bought a copy even though I mostly refer to it online :) 15:04:24 <``Erik> http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ 15:04:33 ggole: The .-example constructs the list during read-time 15:04:38 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05:04 So it can get out of date easily. I'm not seeing the advantage. 15:05:22 kiuma [~kiuma@88-149-138-107.v4.ngi.it] has joined #lisp 15:05:43 ggole: So you'd need something like #.(append '(+ 1 2) some-variable) I'm not sure if that's better 15:05:50 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:06:07 you don't need to do it with + 15:06:35 try doing (defpackage ... () (:export . #.symbols)) with APPLY 15:06:54 sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-81-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:07:24 That's not an evaluated form though 15:07:25 stassats: indeed, a more clear example 15:07:42 . makes sense for "structural" forms like that 15:08:16 (Which is what I meant by my, admittedly unclear, "quoted lists" comment.) 15:08:30 ggole: that's a very fuzzy line you're drawing 15:08:52 ggole: What about the content in a DEFCLASS form? Is that "structural"? 15:09:44 It's not evaluated as a function call, is it? 15:10:39 -!- Munksgaard [~philip@80-71-132-106.u.parknet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:10:42 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:10:43 ggole: Right, so if you argue it's structural, then what about FOO here: (defclass xyz () ((value :initform (FOO)))) 15:10:52 ggole: is the (FOO) structural? 15:11:02 it's inside the DEFCLASS after all 15:11:08 -!- clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:11:13 -!- ics [~ianclarks@ool-18bf6d86.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:11:15 p_nathan1 [~Adium@216.57.209.252] has joined #lisp 15:12:45 cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #lisp 15:13:55 -!- pavelpenev [~quassel@melontech.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:14:37 jochen` [~user@217.110.245.34] has joined #lisp 15:14:55 There's nothing fuzzy about whether initforms are evaluated code or not, if that's what you are getting at. 15:15:26 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@gw4.tieturi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:15:33 If you are observing that macros can evaluate some parts and not others: well, yeah. And . is not generally useful in the evaluated parts, such as initforms. 15:15:58 clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has joined #lisp 15:17:56 przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has joined #lisp 15:17:58 this just in: all you need is LAMBDA 15:18:32 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.216.136.162] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:18:46 duggiefr_ [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has joined #lisp 15:19:19 -!- duggiefr_ [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:19:43 duggiefr_ [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has joined #lisp 15:19:47 -!- p_nathan1 [~Adium@216.57.209.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:21:19 -!- zenoli [~pk@109.201.154.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:21:40 phf [~phf@75.150.171.217] has joined #lisp 15:22:31 drmeister [~drmeister@166.216.136.162] has joined #lisp 15:23:13 smithzv [~user@172.56.8.83] has joined #lisp 15:24:24 Is there a simple way to get a list of all keyword pairs that are not matched in a lambda list (i.e., the other keys in &allow-other-keys)? 15:24:42 -!- duggiefr_ [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:24:42 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:24:51 smithzv: You can REMF the ones you know about. 15:25:17 -!- hitecnologys_ is now known as hitecnologys 15:26:35 antonv [5d7d2a42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.125.42.66] has joined #lisp 15:26:55 sellout-: ok, that is pretty good for macrofication, thanks 15:31:33 -!- chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:31:56 -!- clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:22 duggiefr_ [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has joined #lisp 15:32:45 -!- duggiefr_ [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:11 duggiefr_ [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has joined #lisp 15:33:28 sellout-: REMF? Are you sure that's the one you meant? 15:34:13 sellout-: I mean, are you actually allowed to destructively modify the argument list? 15:34:39 loke_erc: I am making a copy... 15:35:51 loke_erc: I assumed hed want the argument list still, so he would COPY-LIST. 15:36:09 sellout-: yes. 15:36:22 sellout-: I guess I'm asking in more general terms though... Is it allowed? 15:36:22 -!- saysjonathan [~saysjonat@205.186.144.72] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:36:30 loke_erc: But is it disallowed? I dont even know. Im pretty sure Ive done it plenty on code that runs on many compilers. 15:37:13 Usually REMFing the fields that I dont want to pass when I give the &REST param to APPLY. 15:37:54 -!- duggiefr_ [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:37:58 ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:38:07 sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has joined #lisp 15:39:03 saysjonathan [~saysjonat@205.186.144.72] has joined #lisp 15:40:06 clhs 3.4.1.3 15:40:06 A specifier for a rest parameter: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/03_dac.htm 15:40:37 "The value of a rest parameter is permitted, but not required, to share structure with the last argument to apply." 15:40:51 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 15:40:57 beach: Right. But this was about &key 15:41:08 loke_erc: No, its about &REST. 15:41:13 beach: That said, you'd need &rest to pick them up :-) 15:41:18 ignore me. 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I can get headers with *header-stream*. But, looking at drakma code nothing pops out at me to get at post body data. 19:00:00 -!- joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@moobilenet-78-83.ucdavis.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:03:09 knob [~knob@76.76.202.244] has joined #lisp 19:03:23 MoALTz [~no@host86-142-120-148.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 19:04:48 -!- Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:04:49 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-164-188.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:05:56 drmeister [~drmeister@mobile-166-216-136-162.mycingular.net] has joined #lisp 19:07:30 przl [~przlrkt@p57922FC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 19:08:57 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 19:11:07 -!- ejbs [~user@h-136-1-29.a176.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12:30 youlysse` [~user@24-217-211-79.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #lisp 19:12:33 Sagane [~Sagane@177.100-226-89.dsl.completel.net] has joined #lisp 19:17:41 -!- phf 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There are tests. Obviously I can add you to the copyright notices if you care 20:29:52 stassats: i have to leave now, but will be back tomorrow, my username @ gmail is my email if you need to reach me 20:30:34 desophos [~desophos@n138h11.dhcp.oxy.edu] has joined #lisp 20:31:29 bobbysmith007: oh neat! ipv6 next? 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