00:01:05 macdice: use fiveam :) 00:02:01 I wrote my own test framework, it was easier than evaluating the various options. (-: 00:02:18 noted. if i ever somehow get past late-night lisp hacker phase, and get to ravenpack-like lisp startup, i'll need that 00:03:30 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.86.9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04:09 ok yeah i should probably stop being such a slacker and start writing tests. fiveam looks interesting 00:04:34 i tend to put a bunch of ASSERTs at the bottom of each file anyway 00:04:43 so it gets tested whenever i compile 00:04:44 -!- MoALTz [~no@host86-142-125-80.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:05:17 which is one notch more virtuous than only testing by trying shit out in the repl 00:06:19 I'm definitely finding that when I write my unit tests first, I end up with a very different style of code than when I just write the code and try to figure out how to test it afterwards. I also end up with better test coverage, too. 00:08:46 yeah i get some decent mileage when working on complicated algorithms in c++ by writing a cartoon version of the code, but wrong/broken/incomplete, and the tests, and then hitting M-x recompile (which builds and runs tests) in a tight loop while i hack at the code ot get it to work/pass 00:09:19 but in lisp i'm less compelled to do that because i have a repl... i can just call the functions i'm hacking on... 00:10:11 Mmm. I'm finding that I use the REPL during development on work projects less and less these days. 00:10:36 Partly because I'm hacking on something with an HTTP interface, so most ad-hoc testing gets done with curl. 00:10:45 you work in lisp as, like, a day job? 00:11:44 I think that Jason Cornez might do so as well, for similar reasons. 00:12:28 (Those being "because I get to make fundamental technology decisions for the company" and such.) 00:14:16 Xach might also be one of those "people who use lisp on the job". 00:14:30 sure enough! for clozure! 00:14:44 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 00:15:33 cool. well i have managed to sneak a fair amount of scheme into my day job ("configuration files", "dsl", "extension language") 00:16:18 inside C++ a app. but CL might have to wait until i somehow run my own gig :-) 00:16:35 Honestly, I'm not sure if using Lisp has been a help, a hinderence, or just a thing. 00:19:38 -!- ltbarcly_ [~textual@216.113.168.141] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:19:54 bgs100 [~nitrogen@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #lisp 00:20:01 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 00:20:47 sword [~sword@c-24-21-33-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 00:21:14 -!- Munksgaard [~philip@80-71-132-106.u.parknet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:21:54 zRecursive [~czsq888@61.157.42.245] has joined #lisp 00:24:09 i've been hacking in CL as a hobby for a few years, i find its 'otherness' valuable 00:25:10 i had been using scheme quite a lot but it was 'quicklisp' (by Xach?) that really got me to move my primary hobby project fully to CL 00:25:37 win! 00:25:39 too easy... 00:25:48 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-162-62.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:25:59 Mmm. Quicklisp is definitely a win. 00:26:06 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-145-61.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 00:26:48 hopefully one day i'll be able to write something worthy of inclusion 00:27:02 I have one file in my current project that's basically (dolist (system '(:hunchentoot :postmodern ...)) (ql:quickload system)). 00:27:17 You can (ql:quickload '(:hunchentoot :postmodern ...)) if you like 00:27:39 Hunh. Didn't know that. 00:28:14 postmodern is pretty sweet (i'm a major pg junkie). hunchentoot i haven't looked into yet. but my project needs a web interface, looks like that's the ticket for that 00:28:29 The version of this file from a previous project is repeated calls to ql:quickload for single projects. 00:28:55 If you're using postmodern and an SSL database connection, be very careful with storing large blobs in the DB. 00:29:38 -!- nialo- [~yaaic@66-87-117-198.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:32:50 -!- src [~user@210.186.58.94] has quit [Quit: ..zZ] 00:33:12 jack_rabbit [~kyle@c-98-253-60-75.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 00:34:20 -!- tylergoza [~tylergoza@72.29.34.246] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:38:44 (Postmodern uses READ-SEQUENCE to read the blob data, and CL+SSL for SSL connections. CL+SSL's implementation of READ-SEQUENCE (among other gray stream functions) is broken, in this case allowing it to return "early" without having populated or consumed the full sequence worth of data.) 00:40:55 Aerolitus [~Aerolitus@unaffiliated/xispirito] has joined #lisp 00:42:36 Figuring that one out took a day or so. (-: 00:45:43 ouch 00:47:22 Yeah, I'm not impressed with CL+SSL. And I have complaints about postmodern, too. 00:48:08 Doesn't stop me from using them, of course, because the alternatives are worse, and I don't have the project bandwidth available to improve the situation at the moment. 00:49:46 yeah i have a couple of minor complaints about postmodern. which may be due to not R-ing TFM 00:50:51 postmodern has a fairly good manual. 00:51:16 here's one: when you use DOQUERY (i nice macro that destructures each row into a bunch of variables for you), you lose the ability to use $1, $2, ... placeholders 00:52:16 generally, i like it though. but i only use the most basic stuff. none of that fancy dao/clos voodoo 00:52:52 Have a look at the manual for DOQUERY. You need more parens in order to use parameters. 00:53:58 Yeah, I tried the DAO stuff because it was quick to get started with, and ended up working steadily to excise it from my codebase once I found that it was a really bad fit for what I do. 00:54:48 ooh, more parens. i see. thanks! 00:55:13 As I said, a fairly good manual. 00:55:34 yeah i'm not ashamed to admit that i really dig SQL. i don't have any problem embedding the stuff. it's not like leprosy or something 00:56:03 i can see the intentions of the "make an embedded s-expression isomorphism" thing, but it feels... clumsy 00:57:09 S-SQL, when it works, feels very natural to me. When it doesn't match my problem space, which happens a godawful lot for some reason, it's clunky at best. 00:57:29 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:57:34 -!- danielszmulewicz [~danielszm@109.226.23.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:57:59 -!- Aramur [~arare@213.Red-79-156-36.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Aramur] 00:58:02 -!- arare [~Aramur@153.68.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Quit: arare] 00:58:16 I've been finding that I've been moving things that touch the DB well out-of-line, to separate functions and such. 00:58:17 i see that ssl is not used by default 00:58:39 Yeah, you typically have (had?) to do some custom configuration at the DB server level to enable it anyway. 00:58:45 hostssl lines in pg_hba.conf and whatnot. 00:59:27 (unlike libpq, iirc, which starts using it if it can) 00:59:47 Mmm. 01:00:55 Have you done any work with usocket, btw? 01:01:02 mildly 01:01:47 i mean, i wrote something to talk to mtgox with usocket, that was about it 01:02:02 a kind of a quick-and-dirty websocket client 01:02:27 Ah, so not at the level for which I could do with assistance. 01:02:48 very unlikely to be able to help. but try me! 01:02:52 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@61.157.42.245] has left #lisp 01:04:06 Assuming that I have the file-descriptor to a socket that I've obtained by some means, and that I'm using SBCL, how do I get something that I can use the usocket API to accept an inbound connection on? 01:04:55 b 01:06:38 Neither the documentation nor the implementation are particularly comprehensible to me, so I don't really have much of an idea as to where to start with this one. /-: 01:07:00 -!- mikeit [~mikeit@net-93-65-150-84.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 01:07:15 mikeit [~mikeit@net-93-65-150-84.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has joined #lisp 01:07:24 Fortunately, it's not something that I need immediately, merely something that I'm look at for possible future use. 01:09:02 -!- ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:12:58 -!- agumonkey [~agu@147.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:13:42 -!- ASau [~user@p5797EB08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:13:42 it seems like you'd have to make an sb-bsd-sockets:socket from the file descriptor, and then shoehorn that into a usocket:socket. i'm assuming you're on sbcl? clearly a portable solution isn't possible with what usocket exports 01:14:34 Lovely. But, yeah, I'm on SBCL. 01:14:54 Thanks for taking a look at it. 01:15:14 ASau [~user@p5797EB08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 01:16:25 it was nice to chat! sleep time 01:16:34 Sleep well. 01:17:02 -!- ics [~ianclarks@ool-18bf6d86.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:22:31 -!- mikeit [~mikeit@net-93-65-150-84.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 01:22:47 mikeit [~mikeit@net-93-65-150-84.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has joined #lisp 01:27:17 ics [~ianclarks@ool-18bf6d86.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 01:27:29 -!- ics [~ianclarks@ool-18bf6d86.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 01:27:32 ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 01:28:22 -!- travisr [~travisrod@17.223.151.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:28:51 ianclarksmith [~ianclarks@ool-18bf6d86.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 01:32:30 -!- boogie [~boogie@wsip-98-172-168-236.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:39:52 -!- m4dnificent is now known as madnificent 01:41:08 -!- bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:47:42 bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 01:48:34 -!- nyef [~nyef@pool-173-76-155-15.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: G'night all.] 01:50:14 -!- CampinSam [~CampinSam@24-176-103-21.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:54:57 -!- ianclarksmith is now known as ics 02:02:00 aw|incendiary_ [~zacharias@unaffiliated/aw] has joined #lisp 02:03:15 -!- aw|incendiary [~zacharias@unaffiliated/aw] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:03:51 CampinSam [~CampinSam@24-176-103-21.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #lisp 02:07:06 -!- chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:08:03 -!- karupanerura [~karupaner@www13355ui.sakura.ne.jp] has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:03 -!- cibs [~cibs@60-251-40-253.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [*.net *.split] 02:09:02 -!- milosn [~milosn@cable-178-149-0-183.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10:54 -!- rtoym [~chatzilla@24.130.4.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:13:14 rtoym [~chatzilla@24.130.4.105] has joined #lisp 02:13:30 zz_karupanerura [~karupaner@www13355ui.sakura.ne.jp] has joined #lisp 02:13:30 cibs [~cibs@60-251-40-253.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 02:13:58 -!- rtoym [~chatzilla@24.130.4.105] has quit [Client Quit] 02:14:39 milosn [~milosn@178.149.0.183] has joined #lisp 02:21:13 -!- gmcastil [~user@ip-64-134-156-78.public.wayport.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:21:41 -!- duggiefresh [~duggiefre@c-71-192-255-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22:47 duggiefresh [~duggiefre@c-71-192-255-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 02:35:30 -!- desophos [~desophos@n138h11.dhcp.oxy.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:40:06 -!- JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-76-180-168-166.buffalo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:46:54 andreh [~andreh@177.205.105.53.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #lisp 02:48:26 -!- andreh [~andreh@177.205.105.53.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Client Quit] 02:55:33 eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-132-107.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #lisp 02:58:09 -!- sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:00:43 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-132-107.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:11:21 xiaorong [~xiaorong@222.88.195.150] has joined #lisp 03:11:57 Denommus [~user@unaffiliated/denommus] has joined #lisp 03:12:00 hi 03:12:26 I noticed that now I'm able to load quickload lispbuilder-sdl in ECL. 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reason 11:04:49 danielszmulewicz [~danielszm@109.226.23.125] has joined #lisp 11:05:33 all until you get used to it....the syntax is not so complex, maybe it takes time to learn it, but the realy time you spent is to think about doing something.....and how.... 11:05:50 When I seach the different with elisp and Common Lisp, Lexical Variable is main place, But I found elisp support Lexical vairable in Newest Manual 11:05:55 s/realy/most/ 11:06:12 it changed yes.... 11:06:28 there was already interfacing into cl tho... 11:06:50 via (require 'cl) 11:07:38 could we use (require 'elisp) 11:08:10 Import some useful function That is great 11:08:19 Karl_dscc [~localhost@p5B2B30BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 11:08:19 superjudge [~superjudg@c83-250-14-77.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 11:08:21 uhh, i don't know.... 11:08:25 i don't think so..... 11:17:54 feorex [~feorex@ns01.qulix.com] has joined #lisp 11:18:11 DrCode [~DrCode@gateway/tor-sasl/drcode] has joined #lisp 11:18:15 -!- 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Do I load provide an INITIALIZE-LIBRARY function? Do I rely on the user to set CFFI paths right and I just put that in my installation instructions? 11:29:33 Well, that sounds like the problem. :) 11:29:56 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:30:13 Unfortunately, I have no idea -- but oleo might. 11:30:44 francogrex [~user@239.163-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #lisp 11:31:47 no you tell you package which library to use via :use-package bla, and import the symbols you want... 11:32:00 you can arrange for which symbols to import when i think.... 11:32:08 if that's your issue... 11:32:34 and exporting of symbols which are for the client side ofc.... 11:33:50 you have also shadowing possibilities.... 11:36:16 -!- francogrex [~user@239.163-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37:50 yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has joined #lisp 11:39:04 -!- danielszmulewicz [~danielszm@109.226.23.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:41:48 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:43:45 ccorn [~ccorn@d12016.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #lisp 11:45:03 danielszmulewicz [~danielszm@109.226.23.125] has joined #lisp 11:45:22 Sagane [~Sagane@177.100-226-89.dsl.completel.net] has joined #lisp 11:45:36 ASau` [~user@p4FF96B66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 11:48:38 -!- ASau [~user@p5797EB08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:48:52 What is a proper way to initialize metaclass slots if I use my own macro that is built on top of defclass to parse class definition? 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Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 19:18:47 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 19:19:54 -!- EvW [~Thunderbi@a82-92-190-215.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:20:23 EvW [~Thunderbi@a82-92-190-215.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #lisp 19:23:03 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:23:08 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 19:23:20 yello Denommus 19:25:36 -!- Aramur [~arare@213.Red-79-156-36.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Aramur] 19:26:51 any opinion about http://blog.rongarret.info/2009/08/global-variables-done-right.html or even better, users? 19:27:32 ckoch786| [~ckoch786@2600:1009:b020:29b3:6515:cdee:3313:89b6] has joined #lisp 19:27:37 defconstant bit is wrong 19:28:27 how so? 19:28:30 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:28:39 and the third point doesn't make any sense either 19:29:35 well he's right that you can't have a lexical binding using a symbol that's been defined as a special binding with defvar or defparameter, IIUC 19:29:36 dim: constants cannot be bound, while symbol-macros can 19:29:45 ok that's why we're using earmuffs 19:29:45 cannot be used as variables 19:29:51 that is 19:30:11 you mean as in (let ((+some-constant+ 'foo)) ), right? 19:30:23 right 19:31:49 -!- ggole [~ggole@203-59-44-109.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 19:32:51 I can understand why one would prefer less hazards with special variables, but on the other hand it looks like earmuffs conventions should be enough for well behaved team members 19:33:05 and i don't expect anything sensible from ron garret, so i was predisposed to not like this 19:33:53 oh. would you put him in the same basket as paul graham? 19:35:59 dim: we're using earmuffs, because global special declarations are pervasive. 19:36:08 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:36:41 dim: i don't know which basket to put pg 19:36:42 dim: and we tend to use +muffs+ because constant variables cannot be rebound with let. 19:36:58 exactly. so if you have a mistaken or unfriendly developer in your team you're in for lots of fun trying to understand your code... but that might be a non problem 19:37:08 stassats: yeah, I don't know either 19:37:36 dim: indeed, the _convention_ is enough for well behaved teams. But the fact that you need a convetion is a wart in the language. 19:38:18 boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 19:38:23 the other one I've read about recently being about (im)mutability 19:38:45 If we were to do a new CL standard, we could define a defglobal operator that would define global lexical variables, and we could forget defvar/defparameter/defconstant (leave it only for legacy code). 19:38:49 oudeis [~oudeis@109.67.150.3] has joined #lisp 19:39:25 but well nowadays I still spend so many hours in {} (coding in C for PostgreSQL) that I have a hard time getting dead set against mutability and defsetf macros 19:39:40 We could consider COMMON-LISP the legacy package, and have ST-LISP be the new modern language. 19:39:53 "we" 19:39:57 pjb: how do you implement dynamic bindings with only global lexical variables? 19:40:10 Hey! You don't even have to wait on any dictator, benevolent or not, or any committee! You can define this ST-LISP right now! 19:40:15 stassats: that's the hard part isn't it? 19:40:30 pjb: it sounds bonkers, why would i define it? 19:40:46 dim: I didn't say to remove dynamic bindings. 19:40:57 pjb: now you sound a lot like this document "The Plague of Common Lisp" or something like that, where it explains the fate of lone developers etc 19:41:15 pjb: I'm not seeing how you keep it in your proposal, that's all I'm saying 19:41:19 Currently, you can use (let ((v 42)) (declare (special v)) (f)) to have local dynamic variables. 19:42:24 i don't see how conventions can be considered as warts, when its sole purpose is to make it more "convenient" for the human reader 19:42:32 yeah. I prefer defvar, but yeah. 19:43:03 stassats: you can write programs directly on a turing machine very well, with a good set of convention. 19:43:10 stassats: it's all about false sense of security from my undertanding, but I couldn't help thinking I'm missing something big... seems not really 19:43:36 special variables have the same set of operations defined on them, and the only way to consistently tell the reader which one he's staring at is to use ** 19:43:40 pjb: well SQL is turing complete if you want to have a play 19:44:06 the same set of operations as lexical variables 19:44:11 that is 19:44:32 pjb: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Cyclic_Tag_System and have fun ;-) 19:44:45 the only way to get rid of ** is to remove special variables altogether, which doesn't make any sense to do 19:45:38 or always refer to them as (symbol-value 'special) instead of *special*, and use (bind-special ((special value))) instead of (let ((*special* value))) 19:45:50 which doesn't make any sense either 19:46:16 stassats: agreed 19:46:38 special variables can be colored in a pale shade of green in the editor instead 19:46:54 -!- boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:47:19 Or, do it like colorForth and by switching to a pale shade of green, indicate that you're typing a special variable name. :) 19:48:39 but that doesn't work as well too, so, ** is not a wart, it's a solution to a problem 19:49:07 i don't see people complaining that they have to type 1.0 instead of just 1, or even 1d0 19:49:20 eheh 19:50:14 -!- ckoch786| [~ckoch786@2600:1009:b020:29b3:6515:cdee:3313:89b6] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:50:38 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: brb] 19:50:45 Actually, colorForth works pretty well. But there was a huge backlash from colorblind programmers so Chuck was forced to backpedal and offer alternatives in form of different fonts. :) 19:51:33 another solution is for people to stop writing programs, electronic machines are better at keeping track of data types than puny humans 19:52:17 I hope that will actually happen one day. 19:52:56 Anything else would have meant that the strong AI we might find useful for deep space probes won't have been achieved. 19:54:08 Shinmera [~linus@80.77.87.239] has joined #lisp 19:57:32 I'm under the impression that lots of "stars" in the Lisp community gets things "right", while the standard got all "wrong" 19:59:09 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 19:59:12 Well, the standard wasn't trying to get everything "right". It tried to get everything "backwards compatible as much as to not make people scream". 19:59:22 ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 19:59:41 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 20:00:15 I don't quite agree with that sentiment. Common Lisp has its shortcommings, but it is well designed, for a language created by committee 20:01:04 I'm not sure if CL was largely "created" - it standardized a lot behavior found in existing implementations. 20:01:05 sabra [~sabra@67.174.222.215] has joined #lisp 20:01:06 stassats: we could have something like: (flet ((f () (declare (special v)) (print v))) (dlet ((v 42)) (f) (llet ((v 33)) (f)))) that would print 42 twice. 20:01:32 Which were already quite well-proven in practice - that's what makes it good, not that it had a committee. 20:01:40 CLOS was created, wasn't it? 20:02:00 Like, Ex-nihilo? 20:02:08 minion: chant 20:02:08 MORE CONVENIENT 20:02:12 well I gotta go 20:02:23 Denommus: CLOS was made from Portable Loops, which was portable version of LOOPS, which in turn had beginnings in Flavors I think... 20:02:38 I think that even CLOS was a continuation of something. A very good one, it seems. 20:02:47 Denommus: that's not the point. The point is that you find something wrong in the standard, you can patch it yourself thanks to defpackage and defmacro! 20:03:17 the keyword, being YOURSELF, not Rick Hickey, not a standard commetee, not Matzuko. 20:03:35 pjb: yes, I know. I'm not adept of the idea of creating a new standard. Mostly everything can be solved with libraries, because the language is so powerful 20:03:37 that's an even more effective way to stop people from contributing to your code as using GPL 20:04:03 Who's psychorigid here? 20:04:07 Getting something wrong is an inevitable result of trying to get something done. 20:04:22 stassats: nah if you have nice extensions people will use it until it becomes a "standard". See: asdf and quicklisp 20:04:36 Denommus: those are not extensions 20:04:46 just two programs 20:04:58 bgs100 [~nitrogen@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #lisp 20:05:17 stassats: asdf is not part of the standard, and yet it comes with most modern implementations. And almost every single developer loads quicklisp at startup 20:05:26 i don't 20:05:31 stassats: and let's not forget that asdf IS a DSL 20:05:44 and asdf doesn't change how my code looks 20:06:00 stassats: it does change how your project looks 20:06:09 stassats: Are you married? 20:06:46 stassats: anyway, there are examples in other languages, if you want. Like C++'s boost or the fact that the Linux kernel uses some GCC specific extensions 20:06:48 Denommus: not really, i can change to any other combination of letters from the keyboard any day 20:06:59 -!- bgs100 [~nitrogen@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Client Quit] 20:07:36 or how ECL communicates with C 20:08:50 I'm one to think that extending the language is good. If the extension is bad, then people will ignore it. But if it is a good extension, people will eventually start using it until the implementations start giving attention to it and put it as part of their own libraries 20:09:10 pjb: Who is Matzuko, BTW? 20:09:27 that's how every other language evolves, Common Lisp shouldn't be different only because we have an ANSI standard 20:09:31 bgs100 [~nitrogen@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #lisp 20:09:58 i don't think boost or asdf are really extensions. they're portable libraries, aren't they 20:11:03 Boost is a portable set of include files. 20:11:14 I really don't know how we should separate the definition of extensions and libraries. Is CLOS an extension or a library? 20:11:29 neither 20:11:30 it's obviously not a library. 20:11:31 Chicken Scheme has a CLOS-like library, for instance. Is it an extension? Is it not? 20:12:12 extension would be a fundamentally different way of operation of existing functionality 20:12:30 Such as normal-order evaluation? 20:12:35 Or STM? 20:12:44 yes 20:13:06 Bolting these on top of CL seems non-trivial. 20:13:24 yeah, and so was clos, is the point 20:13:27 I think there is a STM module 20:13:54 *nightfly* really likes clojures implementation of STM 20:13:58 stassats: I think this is vague 20:14:14 of course it is. 20:14:42 well, vague, how about 20:14:43 clhs 1.6 20:14:43 Language Extensions: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/01_f.htm 20:15:03 Aramur [~arare@213.Red-79-156-36.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 20:15:05 Furthermore, indeed. 20:16:39 stassats: now that's well defined. And... well, I'll have to agree with you and Bike. I was thinking more in the line of creating brand new syntax/semantics 20:17:14 well, I gotta go 20:17:35 -!- Denommus [~user@unaffiliated/denommus] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:27:11 -!- jrajav [~jrajav@66-188-183-116.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: phunq, sandwich store loop, WHAT NO UNIVERSE] 20:27:31 -!- sdemarre [~serge@26.66-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:27:31 dim: recently on c.l.l RG made a response to a comment very similar to your "conventions should be enough for well behaved team members" in the context of discussing another system he was designing. 20:27:36 dim: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.lang.lisp/WrBXTYrs9Vc/7iBbs05IFLgJ 20:28:03 yeah I'm reading c.l.l 20:28:14 -!- superjudge [~superjudg@c83-250-14-77.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: superjudge] 20:28:17 that's where my questions tonight came from 20:29:04 -!- doomlord [~doomlod@host81-147-97-126.range81-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:05 doomlord_ [~doomlod@host81-147-97-126.range81-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 20:29:15 -!- k0001_ [~k0001@host14.186-125-149.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:31:03 i don't see how that is a "response" 20:32:17 nnmkut [~nnmkut@188-167-199-47.dynamic.chello.sk] has joined #lisp 20:34:06 stassats: response is a fairly generic term for making a reply 20:34:35 -!- Oddity [~Oddity@unaffiliated/oddity] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:36:08 it didn't address the raised questions, just a pointed to a somewhat relevant document 20:36:58 -!- nnmkut [~nnmkut@188-167-199-47.dynamic.chello.sk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:37 (i just can't take anything serious after he argued that < should be short-circuited) 20:38:51 boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 20:39:10 *macdice* hadn't read c.l.l for a long time. amazingly, "WJ" is still there, chiming in to say that CL is COBOL 20:39:35 i'm really hoping WJ just wrote a script, because if not he's honestly really sad. 20:39:52 CL could be a lot of things in different contexts, it's the OS/400 jcl e.g. 20:40:04 Bike: writing such a script is sad too 20:40:10 yes, but less so 20:40:17 hiroakip [~hiroaki@37.82.203.12] has joined #lisp 20:41:23 anyway, speaking of scripts, i've been writing script-y code in CL for the first real time. is there a good way to have a relative filename interpreted as relative to the directory the script is in? i guessed (or #.*compile-file-pathname* (load-time-value *load-pathname*)) but that got me slime tempdirs 20:42:01 get it from the environment 20:42:04 defvar it, and C-c C-l the whole file 20:42:05 pwd or so.... 20:42:22 then C-c C-c won't get in the way with temporary files 20:42:38 Who is WJ? William Jones? 20:43:15 some person who spams c.l.l 20:43:17 -!- JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-76-180-168-166.buffalo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:43:35 stassats: so write in the directory manually? 20:43:42 -!- boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:43:51 -!- nug700 [~nug700@174-26-136-122.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:44:30 Bike: no, (defvar *file* #.(or *compile-file-pathname* *load-pathname*)), and just load the file completely before doing any subsequent C-c C-c 20:45:07 C-c C-l doesn't create any temporary files, unlike C-c C-c 20:46:05 oleo: pwd doesn't work, sbcl --load a/script/in/a/different/directory.lisp 20:46:13 oh 20:46:50 is pwd not part of sb-posix ? 20:47:12 It's a tad less sad only if he wrote his script in CL. But I could imagine him having written it in Ruby or python, and then it's really sad. 20:47:26 oleo: it's not a part of posix 20:47:31 ah 20:47:35 my bad sorry 20:47:37 p means print, it's a shell command 20:47:46 getcwd is, on the other hand 20:47:59 Bike: how is the path where the file was at compilation time any significant? 20:48:15 -!- Matt_S_G [~Matt_S_G@87.109.26.125] has quit [Quit: Matt_S_G] 20:48:37 See program-path in ~/bin/script.lisp 20:48:46 http://git.informatimago.com/viewgit/index.php?a=summary&p=public/bin 20:49:48 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:50:08 didi [~user@unaffiliated/didi/x-1022147] has joined #lisp 20:50:28 -!- alezost [~user@128-70-203-73.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:51:03 using slime + sbcl, when in the *sldb sdbc* buffer looking at a backtrace after a condition has been signalled, is there any way to show/find the line in the source where a particular call (backtrace line) was made? 20:51:13 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 20:51:16 macdice: v 20:52:07 macdice: If you want the exactly expression, in SBCL you can compile the function with C-u C-c C-c. 20:52:53 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-81-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:53:09 -!- oudeis [~oudeis@109.67.150.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:16 Adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #lisp 20:53:43 -!- _d3f [~gnu@79.172.193.111] has quit [Quit: !°!] 20:54:37 I thought I've read it from lisptips, but I didn't find it. How do I make a pathname relative to a source file? I want to process a file that I know resides at the same directory of this source file. 20:54:48 oudeis [~oudeis@109.67.150.3] has joined #lisp 20:54:54 you too? 20:55:07 didi: (defvar *file* #.(or *compile-file-pathname* *load-pathname*)) 20:55:23 stassats: Ah, that was it, I think. 20:55:27 stassats: Thank you. 20:55:50 didi: thanks, but that doesn't get me the line exactly, but it gets me lots of other interesting stuff, thanks 20:56:10 Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-178-213.lns20.bne4.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 20:56:10 didi: and it was http://xach.livejournal.com/294639.html 20:56:40 stassats: Ah, another great website. 20:56:42 ah, yes it does get me the exact expression. thank you, very helpful 20:57:30 and i actually use #.(or *compile-file-truename* *load-truename*), as I said in the comments 20:57:37 stassats: Indeed. 20:58:02 I used like it in the past too 20:58:27 i won't drag any asdf: into my code 20:59:19 nug700 [~nug700@174-26-145-60.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 20:59:49 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@37.82.203.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:01:28 -!- edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-109-193-013-113.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: activity discontinued by brain damage] 21:02:17 -!- genkinodenki [~migrayn@dsl-vntbrasgw1-50dc7f-98.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:05:08 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 21:05:43 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 21:10:17 -!- namtsui [~user@c-76-21-121-73.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10:38 namtsui [~user@c-76-21-121-73.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:17:05 -!- m7w [~chatzilla@178.172.234.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:19:15 -!- didi [~user@unaffiliated/didi/x-1022147] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:23:10 sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-81-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:25:26 -!- chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:29:15 -!- ASau [~user@p4FF96B66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31:18 ASau [~user@p4FF96B66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 21:34:45 chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 21:39:20 boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 21:44:02 -!- boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:46:59 https://twitter.com/Huth/status/378306063520374784 why why why 21:47:13 Oddity [~Oddity@unaffiliated/oddity] has joined #lisp 21:47:47 wrong channel? 21:48:50 -!- paul0 [~paul0@189.114.195.162.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:50:09 stassats: no, though perhaps bad judgement. I thought it was bad enough to warrant sharing though 21:50:38 e-note!? 21:50:46 f-palm. 21:51:37 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:54:05 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:18 pyx [~pyx@unaffiliated/pyx] has joined #lisp 21:55:58 -!- pyx [~pyx@unaffiliated/pyx] has quit [Client Quit] 21:56:30 -!- Munksgaard [~philip@80-71-132-106.u.parknet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:59:38 -!- chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:59:57 patrickwonders [~patrickwo@user-38q42ns.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 22:02:43 -!- ASau [~user@p4FF96B66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:47 inaimathi [~inaimathi@bas1-toronto61-1279435856.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 22:03:04 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:03:31 Anyone on 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