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igotnole_ [~igotnoleg@63-154-133-245.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:10:53 ggherdov [uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tfhdnlfqmwlfoypd] has joined #lisp 01:11:01 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-4d01134a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:11:07 Does anyone know what the #!+ reader macro does in ECL? 01:11:39 jlongster [~user@pool-173-53-114-190.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 01:11:48 does it not exist in the final system? 01:12:48 I don't know - I'm implementing serve-event and I see (defvar *descriptor-handlers* nil #!+sb-doc "List of all ...") 01:13:20 This is in the ecl/contrib/serve-event/serve-event.lisp source file - it's the first time I've seen it. 01:13:42 What's (get-dispatch-macro-character #\# #\!) get you 01:13:49 Good point. 01:14:17 anyway i'd guess it's like sbcl's, for bootstrapping, but i have no particular reason to believe that 01:14:30 Wait. #!+sb-doc? In ECL? 01:14:38 SI::SHARP-!-READER - I'm off to the source code! 01:14:48 It's for cross-compilation. 01:14:56 Yes, this serve-event.lisp file was lifted from SBCL. 01:15:04 travisr [~travisrod@17.223.151.202] has joined #lisp 01:15:13 -!- Zhivago [~lys@1.234.65.131] has quit [Changing host] 01:15:14 Zhivago [~lys@unaffiliated/zhivago] has joined #lisp 01:15:14 Common Lisp code get's around. 01:15:18 well, in sbcl it's just like #+ but at cross-compile time or bootstrap time or however the build process works 01:15:23 "gets around". 01:15:41 Well, this is boot-strap time I guess. 01:16:01 unless you have your own read-time conditional for including docstrings you can probably remove it 01:16:32 k0001 [~k0001@host155.186-124-2.telecom.net.ar] has joined #lisp 01:18:06 LiamH [~none@96.231.217.193] has joined #lisp 01:20:23 -!- jlongster [~user@pool-173-53-114-190.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:22:07 nilsi_ [~nilsi@61.172.24.42] has joined #lisp 01:23:34 Gah - I can't find it in the lisp sources or the C-sources - I'm commenting them out. 01:25:03 -!- nilsi_ [~nilsi@61.172.24.42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:25:42 nilsi_ [~nilsi@5.254.151.3] has joined #lisp 01:26:59 agumonkey [~agu@147.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 01:27:03 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:28:05 james111111 [~james1111@173-23-175-149.client.mchsi.com] has joined #lisp 01:29:12 Alright! serve-event.lisp now loads. 01:29:15 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 01:29:31 -!- james111111 [~james1111@173-23-175-149.client.mchsi.com] has left #lisp 01:30:11 A little testing/debugging, and then finish hooking in gray streams into the low level routines and then I should have SLIME. 01:30:55 Hydan` [~hydan@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lisp 01:33:46 -!- ltbarcly 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"If a OR b is true, then do C" 02:26:45 I tried using cond but it was not working right 02:26:49 (when (or a b) (c)) 02:27:07 boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 02:27:19 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:27:35 I forgot to mention, "if NOT a OR b, then do D" 02:27:36 ghena1986 [~ghena1986@ip98-163-242-143.no.no.cox.net] has joined #lisp 02:27:41 -!- ghena1986 [~ghena1986@ip98-163-242-143.no.no.cox.net] has left #lisp 02:27:42 so would "if" be more appropriate? 02:27:50 araujo [~araujo@190.73.45.171] has joined #lisp 02:27:52 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.45.171] has quit [Changing host] 02:27:52 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 02:27:59 (unless (or a b) (d)) 02:28:11 or if you mean both at once, (if (or a b) (c) (d)), yes 02:28:15 Yeah 02:29:27 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 02:29:44 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has 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wait, I see a problem, haha 05:31:16 oleo_ [5098faa7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.152.250.167] has joined #lisp 05:31:58 (<= (expt x 2) num) presumably 05:32:15 will return for any num greater than nine or whatever 05:33:21 clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has joined #lisp 05:33:29 JavaDog_ [~JavaDog@cpe-024-074-162-241.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 05:33:40 Sorry, my VPN decided to die just then 05:33:42 ludocode [~quassel@206-248-170-188.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #lisp 05:33:48 Yeah, that was the one But it's still not behaving quite right... for example, 617 returns NIL when it should be T 05:34:10 617 is composite. 05:34:15 er...no, wait 05:34:17 -!- desophos [~desophos@n138h11.dhcp.oxy.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:35:01 well, what did you change it to? 05:35:11 also, why do you have that isPrime variable, you can just return T. 05:35:36 Oh, yeah... 05:35:44 I must be getting tired 05:35:46 -!- clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:36:03 -!- jasom_ is now known as jasom 05:36:16 -!- JavaDog [~JavaDog@50.7.32.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:36:27 -!- JavaDog_ is now known as JavaDog 05:36:58 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 05:38:47 7 also returns NIL 05:40:11 well you still haven't pasted what you changed it to so nobody can help. but, i'm out, good luck 05:40:39 I mentioned that it was the expt thing 05:40:42 but thanks 05:40:46 and I'll do that... 05:41:07 http://pastebin.com/JduN3T2X 05:41:21 codygman [~cody@pool-173-74-42-45.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 05:41:38 Oh, maybe I know what it is 05:41:49 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:42:11 It seems like every time I look at it on pastebin with syntax highlighting, the errors jump out at me. What CL IDEs have syntax highlighting? 05:42:26 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 05:42:27 I'm using Allegro (not by my choice) and it's kind of annoying that it doesn't 05:42:52 emacs has syntax highlighting 05:43:20 I'm pretty sure you can turn on highlighting in the allegro IDE 05:43:35 but I recall it being kinda dumb about it. Look through the config scroons. 05:45:13 stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has joined #lisp 05:46:40 There seems to be some kind of option for "colorize source files upon opening" but it doesn't do anything 05:47:42 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:47:43 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:48:42 Okay I actually don't know what the problem is in the source I linked 05:48:53 any hints? 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I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but feeding this function 45 just returns T http://pastebin.com/YhmzNzRN 06:16:27 It doesn't seem to enter any of the cond statements 06:16:40 -!- francis_wolke [~user@c-98-207-155-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:17:14 ahhh 06:17:17 I can't even read DO 06:17:38 DO? 06:17:54 DO 06:18:23 loke: i can't remember, sorry 06:18:30 I'm not sure what you're talking about 06:18:48 JavaDog: you're using DO for looping. don't. 06:19:04 oh, why? 06:19:12 I need to start at 3 and increment by 2 06:19:18 -!- bobbysmith0071 [~russ@firewall-dcd1.acceleration.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 06:19:21 JavaDog: do is unreadable. use loop. 06:19:23 pyx [~pyx@unaffiliated/pyx] has joined #lisp 06:19:28 -!- pyx [~pyx@unaffiliated/pyx] has quit [Client Quit] 06:20:05 (loop for x from 3 by 2 upto 200 collect x) 06:20:19 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 06:20:28 What's collect mean? 06:20:38 JavaDog: you figure it out. 06:20:43 bobbysmith007 [~russ@firewall-dcd1.acceleration.net] has joined #lisp 06:20:55 billstclair [~billstcla@p-74-209-25-247.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has joined #lisp 06:20:55 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@p-74-209-25-247.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:20:55 billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #lisp 06:21:29 -!- ehu [~ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:21:34 JavaDog: all we're saying is that do is not readable and loop is a better alternative if you want someone else to help you with your code. 06:22:03 I started writing lisp yesterday, so I don't know these things 06:22:15 you guys seem to have a strange aversion to if statements, too 06:22:39 JavaDog: may i suggest that you start by reading an introductory text on lisp first? 06:22:39 lisp's IF is not a statement 06:22:50 -!- boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:22:57 I've read a bit 06:23:12 JavaDog: read this if you're using allegro: https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.franz.com%2Fresources%2Feducational_resources%2Fcooper.book.pdf&ei=v7ouUqbkE6GN4ATgtIFI&usg=AFQjCNHNeNFovOrUO7MMBCxilJQI19k-gQ&bvm=bv.51773540,d.bGE 06:23:24 sorry. http://www.franz.com/resources/educational_resources/cooper.book.pdf 06:23:55 first link worked 06:24:24 JavaDog: IF is like the ternary operator, and can only accept single expressions. The point of using WHEN/UNLESS is to A. clarify that you only care about a single branch of that conditional tree, B. be able to have multiple expressions as the body, as opposed to wrapping things with PROGN. 06:24:37 JavaDog: if you think about it, lisp's if is actually kinda meh. 06:25:01 Yeah, I noticed that it was an optional ternary operator 06:25:02 COND is probably more fitting if you want to think in terms of other languages' 'if'. 06:25:58 JavaDog: the other part is exactly that 'optional' bit -- when I read Lisp code, I generally expect IFs to have two branches and not exploit that optional feature -- but that's more a matter of writing lisp idiomatically. :) 06:26:16 not to hurt anyone's feelings when i claim two-expression IF is unidiomatic 06:26:35 H4ns: what would you recommend as an introductory text? 06:26:47 IF, WHEN, and UNLESS are special cases of COND. 06:27:00 Which is why IF is probably more rare than you've used to. 06:27:08 ludocode: i pasted an url that is suitable as introduction for allegro cl users. 06:27:26 thanks 06:27:29 ludocode: if you have prior programming experience with object oriented languages, practial common lisp is pretty good. 06:27:46 that's good. i have experience in scheme and i've dabbled in clojure, just not specificallly cl 06:28:29 mrSpec [~Spec@88.208.105.6] has joined #lisp 06:28:29 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@88.208.105.6] has quit [Changing host] 06:28:29 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 06:30:42 -!- kiuma [~kiuma@static-217-133-17-91.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:31:55 kiuma [~kiuma@static-217-133-17-91.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #lisp 06:32:07 -!- kanru` [~kanru@148.122.12.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:32:56 mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has joined #lisp 06:33:47 This is apparently invalid... 06:33:50 (loop for x from 3 upto (expt num 2) by 2 do( (when (zerop (mod num x)) (return-from PrimeP NIL))))))) 06:33:58 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-189-241.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:34:00 oh man that formatting is horrible, I should use pastebin 06:34:26 JavaDog: you should use paste.lisp.org and stop using do 06:34:42 oh, sorry. 06:34:50 http://pastebin.com/evX8jwCM 06:34:51 that's what you get for pasting to the channel. 06:35:15 do( is wrong 06:35:30 All the examples I found seem to do it that way 06:35:34 no. 06:35:49 Well what's wrong with it? 06:35:59 the extra paren is wrong 06:36:17 oh I see 06:36:33 also, your (t clause will always return nil 06:36:46 Yeah I noticed that 06:36:52 But why 06:37:18 because you never make it return something other than t 06:37:42 other than NIL, you mean? 06:37:57 right. 06:37:57 yeah I guess I forgot that part 06:38:18 -!- __main__ [~main@50.240.210.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:38:32 i'm tired, sorry. you should really start reading. 06:38:50 I can't... this is homework and it is due tomorrow 06:38:54 and this is the last part 06:38:54 -!- ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:39:43 *shrug* 06:39:55 http://pastebin.com/n0iKLwKU 06:39:58 shit still don't wanna work 06:40:01 i suggest that you fail on this homework because you did not learn properly. 06:40:19 jewel [~jewel@105-236-146-135.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 06:40:20 Solid advice for a successful future 06:41:12 And you haven't seen all the other functions I've successfully written 06:41:19 I'd lose like 10 points, tops 06:42:06 -!- pillton [~user@140.253.50.147] has left #lisp 06:42:10 Anyway, I'm not here for judgment, I only wanted help from those willing to give it 06:42:21 If you're tired, that's cool 06:42:47 -!- Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:44:27 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:44:35 ggole [~ggole@124-168-255-144.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #lisp 06:44:59 Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has joined #lisp 06:45:23 -!- DrCode [~DrCode@gateway/tor-sasl/drcode] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:45:29 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 06:45:51 JavaDog: note the difference between EXPT and SQRT 06:46:04 oh, fuck me 06:46:09 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-185-245.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 06:46:39 Copied that from another loop attempt and didn't notice 06:46:49 DrCode [~DrCode@gateway/tor-sasl/drcode] has joined #lisp 06:46:51 Literacy is not optional for programmers. 06:47:54 JavaDog: in what way doesn't it work? 06:48:20 __main__ [~main@50.240.210.73] has joined #lisp 06:48:34 Well, it works now 06:49:02 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-180-111.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 06:49:27 I was mistakenly squaring something I should have been square-rooting 06:50:08 -!- theBlackDragon [~dragon@77.109.124.52] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:50:19 not sure why checking too many numbers would cause it to fail 06:50:20 So, H4ns, I would rebut that I have learned LISP well enough for as far as I am into this class 06:50:45 Because it would get to the actual number 06:50:50 ah, right 06:50:51 617 % 617 is 0 06:52:04 theBlackDragon [~dragon@77.109.124.52] has joined #lisp 06:53:35 danielszmulewicz [~danielszm@109.226.23.125] has joined #lisp 06:54:55 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:55:27 -!- ics [~ianclarks@ool-18bf6d86.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:56:27 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 07:01:06 xificurC [xificurC@nat/ibm/x-csgbrhktiksmoncm] has joined #lisp 07:03:46 -!- kiuma [~kiuma@static-217-133-17-91.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:04:04 -!- antgreen [~green@dsl-173-206-83-249.tor.primus.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:04:11 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:05:22 H4ns: The PDF you linked to, how old is it? 07:05:31 loke: it is ten years old, but has been updated recently. 07:05:31 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 07:06:05 H4ns: Oh. Lots of outdated information though. Like a link to alu.org that doesn't exist, reference to the package :USER (isn't that CLtL1 stuff?) 07:06:47 alu exists! 07:06:59 oleo: the link doesn't :-) 07:07:05 huh ? 07:07:25 they have a link to a page on alu.org 07:07:27 loke: gendl wrote it. 07:07:29 i got to alu.org just now in my browser..... 07:07:38 loke: and it is allegro specific. 07:07:51 I see. 07:07:56 loke: still, i learned cl with it back in the day and i liked it. 07:08:02 that explains the reference to alisp :-) 07:08:58 jah ,seems like the lisp side disappeared, the .....learner-model or so..... 07:09:01 Allegro has an alternative to SLIME? 07:09:14 aaxd [~user@zuzu.xs4all.nl] has joined #lisp 07:09:54 loke: i'd not say it is a real alternative, but it works for some people. mostly die-hard oldtimers, though :) 07:10:11 no it exists still! hah :) http://art2.ph-freiburg.de/Lisp-Kurs 07:10:59 chr chr chr, i made my first attempts at defining functions there, some simple stuff..... 07:11:14 tho gradually getting complex..... 07:11:17 mvilleneuve [~mvilleneu@LLagny-156-36-4-214.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 07:11:44 -!- spacefrogg^ is now known as spacefrogg 07:14:17 -!- aaxd [~user@zuzu.xs4all.nl] has left #lisp 07:14:45 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:15:06 Why does allegro only show me 10 items of a list and then add "..." 07:15:57 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 07:17:01 *print-length* 07:18:22 ah 07:18:29 I just (print )ed it 07:18:38 antgreen [~green@dsl-173-206-173-230.tor.primus.ca] has joined #lisp 07:18:50 Woo, done with lisp homework #1 07:18:55 Time to get some damn sleep 07:18:58 187 lines 07:19:12 JavaDog: Learnt anything? 07:19:22 JavaDog: Do you hate Lisp as much as you did yesterday? 07:19:41 It has its drawbacks, like anything 07:20:26 And yes I learned something... 3 days ago I didn't know any lisp 07:20:43 what are the drawbacks? 07:20:50 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:21:19 *loke* can think of a few 07:21:27 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 07:21:33 aaxd [~user@zuzu.xs4all.nl] has joined #lisp 07:22:07 doomlord__ [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 07:22:13 kanru` [~kanru@193.214.41.96] has joined #lisp 07:23:31 boogie [~boogie@68.101.218.78] has joined #lisp 07:23:54 (can't (really (put (my (finger (on (it, (but (something (about (lisp (just (gets (to (me (... )))))))))))))))) 07:24:16 JavaDog: well, yeah. One gets over it after a while. Then it just feels natural 07:24:24 I need to find a better ide 07:24:35 that isn't emacs because I don't want to learn emacs 07:24:37 JavaDog: definitely. A bad one causes all kinds of grief 07:24:44 JavaDog: Well, Emacs is better 07:24:53 Are the eclipse plugins any good? 07:24:59 JavaDog: It's worth learning though, since Emacs is good for not onlu Lisp 07:25:08 I'm using vim+slimv 07:25:14 JavaDog: Given how utterly shitty Eclipse is, I couldn't care less. :-) 07:25:23 For Java, I use IDEA. But, there is no Lisp plugin for it. 07:26:05 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:26:31 Eclipse is slow and bloated and massive, but I like it anyway 07:26:46 IDEA is weird 07:27:50 maxter [~maxter@gaffeless.chaperon.volia.net] has joined #lisp 07:27:57 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 07:29:40 ck`` [~ck@dslb-094-219-237-029.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 07:31:26 -!- boogie [~boogie@68.101.218.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:33:07 cdan [~cdan@mail.savatech.ro] has joined #lisp 07:33:25 Alright, I'm out 07:33:31 thanks to those who helped me out 07:33:45 -!- JavaDog [~JavaDog@cpe-024-074-162-241.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: night!] 07:35:38 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:36:40 -!- macrobat [~beep@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 07:36:56 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