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Has anybody more information on this? My ZTE Open still struggles with the download as in bug 907827. 10:10:52 foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has joined #lisp 10:11:56 gna... 10:11:58 Don't you think that six digits to identify a bug is a little on the low end, given that already with 12 digits (32-bit) it's not enough to identify your computers? 10:12:00 sorry, wron channel ;) 10:12:12 Happens. 10:12:22 There's a subconcious lapsus in there 10:12:27 +S 10:13:12 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 10:14:30 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:17:30 -!- kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:17:32 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:18:16 fantazo [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has joined #lisp 10:18:57 pillton [~user@124-171-213-21.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #lisp 10:19:24 przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has joined #lisp 10:22:49 -!- motionman [~motionman@unaffiliated/motionman] has quit [Quit: tschüß] 10:23:59 kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 10:24:36 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:24:52 _d3f [~gnu@ip-static-94-242-252-67.as5577.net] has joined #lisp 10:25:08 bondar [~bondar@197.156.132.62] has joined #lisp 10:26:16 -!- mathrick [~mathrick@85.218.134.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:35:01 -!- keltvek [~keltvek@unaffiliated/keltvek] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:36:45 clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has joined #lisp 10:37:53 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 10:37:59 mathrick [~mathrick@85.218.134.11] has joined #lisp 10:37:59 -!- ezakimak [~nick@72.250.219.55] has quit [Excess Flood] 10:38:07 angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has joined #lisp 10:38:24 ezakimak [~nick@72.250.219.55] has joined #lisp 10:41:07 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-ho1.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:42:39 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@46.165.220.223] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:42:59 nilsi [~nilsi@61.172.24.42] has joined #lisp 10:43:17 -!- fridim_ [~fridim@bas2-montreal07-2925317559.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:44:53 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@61.172.24.42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:45:29 nilsi [~nilsi@46.165.220.223] has joined #lisp 10:47:42 -!- bondar [~bondar@197.156.132.62] has quit [] 10:50:20 -!- kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:51:34 przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has joined #lisp 10:52:54 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:00:30 _quasi [~quasi@61.12.126.211] has joined #lisp 11:01:09 void64 [~luke@37.17.112.13] has joined #lisp 11:01:22 <_quasi> hey guys. I was just rewriting my old library - cl-memcached - and I got into some socket related trouble. 11:01:47 <_quasi> hope you guys can help. I apologise to butt in like this. 11:02:44 is there a Lisp version of CPAN? 11:03:42 minion: quicklisp 11:03:42 <_quasi> I use usocket:socket-connect and usocket:socket-stream to get a stream to write. I left the element-type default. 11:03:42 quicklisp: No definition was found in the first 5 lines of http://www.cliki.net/quicklisp 11:04:35 -!- doomlord [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:05:09 <_quasi> I use write-stirng to send the commands to the socket. the data I send as unsigned-byte 8 11:05:55 <_quasi> while reading back from socket I use read-line and then (read-sequence (unsigned-byte 8) len) to read from the socket stream 11:06:28 <_quasi> this all works on SBCL which I was using. I tried on CCL and the read-sequence breaks. 11:09:10 <_quasi> relevant code is here :https://github.com/quasi/cl-memcached/blob/master/cl-memcached.lisp 11:10:34 -!- JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:12:31 -!- pillton [~user@124-171-213-21.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:16:31 breakds [~breakds@c-24-0-146-43.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 11:18:06 -!- void64 [~luke@37.17.112.13] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:24:01 przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has joined #lisp 11:27:47 JPeterson [~JPeterson@81.233.152.121] has joined #lisp 11:29:50 arare [~Aramur@153.68.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #lisp 11:30:38 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:33:16 [1]JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #lisp 11:33:50 -!- JPeterson [~JPeterson@81.233.152.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:34:44 -!- [1]JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34:54 -!- _quasi [~quasi@61.12.126.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:35:41 JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #lisp 11:37:52 _quasi [~quasi@61.12.126.211] has joined #lisp 11:39:13 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@46.165.220.223] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:40:00 keltvek [~keltvek@unaffiliated/keltvek] has joined #lisp 11:40:24 nilsi [~nilsi@46.165.220.223] has joined #lisp 11:40:59 -!- benkard [~benkard@2a01:198:6d5:0:a445:6a75:3989:f7c7] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:42:16 Teratogen: Look up Quicklisp: http://www.quicklisp.org/beta/ 11:42:19 benkard [~benkard@2a01:198:6d5:0:a445:6a75:3989:f7c7] has joined #lisp 11:44:46 ASau` [~user@p4FF96BB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 11:45:06 -!- _quasi [~quasi@61.12.126.211] has left #lisp 11:47:13 _quasi [~quasi@61.12.126.211] has joined #lisp 11:47:39 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@158.127.31.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:48:14 -!- ASau [~user@p4FF9643B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:50:28 -!- Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-38-40.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:50:44 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:50:58 victor_lowther [~victor.lo@2602:306:36c6:d3f0:6594:d51:6094:ffec] has joined #lisp 11:52:30 void64 [~luke@37.17.8.234] has joined #lisp 11:55:08 -!- walter|r [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:55:59 walter|r [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 11:57:25 -!- oleo_ [d4b81ecd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.184.30.205] has quit [] 11:57:54 -!- danielszmulewicz [~danielszm@109.226.23.125] has quit [Quit: danielszmulewicz] 11:58:25 -!- bulibuta [~bulibuta@irofti.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:59:10 danielszmulewicz [~danielszm@109.226.23.125] has joined #lisp 11:59:17 _quasi: What's CCL's error message? 11:59:36 -!- nauar [~nauar@195.53.22.2] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:02:14 -!- victor_lowther [~victor.lo@2602:306:36c6:d3f0:6594:d51:6094:ffec] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:08:14 -!- danielszmulewicz [~danielszm@109.226.23.125] has quit [Quit: danielszmulewicz] 12:08:31 -!- xificurC [xificurC@nat/ibm/x-miyoerphijtydtfv] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:09:24 -!- _quasi [~quasi@61.12.126.211] has quit [Quit: _quasi] 12:10:49 -!- Kabaka [~Kabaka@botters/kabaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:12:40 and _quasi is gone. 12:13:49 minion: memo for _quasi: write-string <-> unsigned-byte? read-line <-> unsigned-byte? Strings are vectors of characters, not vectors of unsigned-bytes! 12:13:49 Remembered. I'll tell _quasi when he/she/it next speaks. 12:15:16 Kabaka [~Kabaka@botters/kabaka] has joined #lisp 12:27:30 kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has joined #lisp 12:28:32 hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-192-229-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 12:29:27 ISF [~ivan@201.82.138.219] has joined #lisp 12:30:10 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@46.165.220.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:31:46 knob [~knob@76.76.202.244] has joined #lisp 12:31:51 -!- Guest37294 is now known as oleo 12:32:50 LiamH [~healy@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has joined #lisp 12:37:01 _cosmonaut_ [~eu5183@nat-gw1.edb.se] has joined #lisp 12:43:06 pierre1 [~pierre1@179.218.154.208] has joined #lisp 12:47:07 -!- antgreen [~green@dsl-173-206-83-249.tor.primus.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:48:15 milosn [~milosn@cable-178-149-0-183.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined #lisp 12:50:20 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #lisp 12:52:50 Cymew [~user@fw01d.snowmen.se] has joined #lisp 12:52:53 -!- void64 [~luke@37.17.8.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:53:58 -!- varjagg [~eugene@122.62-97-226.bkkb.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:54:29 -!- Harag [~Thunderbi@105-236-145-59.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:57:59 -!- _cosmonaut_ [~eu5183@nat-gw1.edb.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:08 -!- add^_ [~user@m37-3-55-160.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 13:02:45 doomlord [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 13:02:45 -!- clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:03:04 clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has joined #lisp 13:06:32 __quasi [~quasi@61.12.126.211] has joined #lisp 13:06:40 <__quasi> krrrcks: The value BASIC-TCP-STREAM ISO-8859-1 (SOCKET/4) is not of the expected type (AND CCL::BINARY-STREAM CCL:INPUT-STREAM) 13:06:40 __quasi, memo from ogamita: write-string <-> unsigned-byte? read-line <-> unsigned-byte? Strings are vectors of characters, not vectors of unsigned-bytes! 13:07:19 lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has joined #lisp 13:07:41 <__quasi> ogamita: the default socket-stream is of type character 13:07:49 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-167-235.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:08:05 <__quasi> hence I read and write write-string. but now I want to read the data sent by server in octets. how to do that ? 13:08:10 __quasi: see, the error message is clear! You're using a character stream (decoding iso-8859-1) as if it was a binary stream! 13:08:34 __quasi: Try: (princ-to-string #(1 2 3)) and (read-from-string (princ-to-string #(1 2 3))) 13:08:43 This is what you can do with a character stream. 13:08:53 -!- ISF [~ivan@201.82.138.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:09:20 (write #(1 2 3) :stream socket) / (read socket) 13:09:39 But this would be silly, since you'd send out 5 bytes for each byte in the vector. 13:09:45 Instead, use a binary stream. 13:09:53 <__quasi> umm.. the memcached protocol says that the data following the first line is of type unsigned-byte 8 .. 13:10:26 <__quasi> so I would have to convert the string commands which the server excepts into octets and then push to the binary stream ? 13:10:43 __quasi: you would need to open a binary stream, and then convert it to a string in a particular encoding manually 13:10:56 -!- clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:11:14 you can also have bivalent streams with flexi-streams 13:12:03 though flex-streams add overhead, which may be unwanted 13:12:06 edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-078-043-120-047.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 13:12:13 It's like the internet protocol. While you can usually type commands in ASCII (HTTP, SMTP, etc), they're actually binary protocols, that just happen to be text friendly, at least for parts of the transmission (important parts such as the header in particular). 13:12:27 But it would be a mistake to treat them as character streams. 13:12:34 <__quasi> ok. let me just restate the problem. I have to send a set of commands + crlf + data in unsigned-byte format to the memcached server. 13:12:48 <__quasi> ogamita. ok. so going binary streams is the way to go I guess. 13:13:08 a bivalent stream would work too 13:13:42 <__quasi> err. let me look up bivalent stream. I haven't come across that yet. 13:14:16 With some implementations, you can switch between the two with (setf (stream-element-type stream) 'character #|or '(unsigned-byte 8) |#) 13:14:24 __quasi: http://weitz.de/flexi-streams/#flexi-streams 13:14:36 <__quasi> stassats: yes was reading that 13:15:12 but encoding a line or two will be better from the performance perspective 13:15:16 <__quasi> ogamita: ok. point is this is a library so has to work across implementations .. 13:15:20 especially since it's probably just ASCII 13:15:33 <__quasi> stassats: yes. all commands are ASCII 13:16:29 <__quasi> so I think I need to make the stream binary and just encode the commands into unsigned-byte 8 and then send across. 13:16:39 (map '(simple-array (unsigned-byte 8) (*)) #'char-code "command") => #(99 111 109 109 97 110 100) 13:17:02 <__quasi> while reading I need to read a line, though. terminated by +crlf+ 13:17:12 <__quasi> I am using read-line stream nil nil 13:17:22 read-line won't do 13:18:18 <__quasi> oh. how to read a line then, off a binary stream ? I get some data back terminated by +crlf+ .. part of the data is length of data in octets which follow 13:18:43 you would need to do that manually 13:19:16 with read-byte 13:20:06 Reading a line off a binary stream doesn't make sense -- lines are textual entities. 13:20:22 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-168-17.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 13:20:23 __quasi: and how does your thing compare to http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-memcached/ ? 13:20:33 -!- pierre1 [~pierre1@179.218.154.208] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:20:45 <__quasi> in SBCL I have a character stream. I read a line. I parse the len of data following. I make a sequence of type unsigned-byte 8 and then (read-sequence seq stream) and it works 13:21:10 <__quasi> stassats. ya, that is the older version of this library which I am writing. the older version was only tested on SBCL and not updated in several years. I am the author. 13:21:47 <__quasi> I want to make it quicklispable now ;) .. so rewrote. 13:21:48 sbcl may have bivalent streams, but you can't rely on that 13:22:20 nilsi [~nilsi@61.172.24.42] has joined #lisp 13:22:50 reading a line from a binary stream with READ-BYTE is trivial 13:23:06 <__quasi> ok. so basically I will have to read bytes till I get a +crlf+ .. then convert to ascii and then parse 13:23:37 mgile [~mgile@68-64-219-202.static.forethought.net] has joined #lisp 13:24:05 you can convert to ascii as you go 13:26:42 <__quasi> ok. thanks. 13:27:07 -!- lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27:13 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@61.172.24.42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:27:28 of course sbcl can be more efficient here, since it can look ahead in the buffer, but that shouldn't matter that much 13:27:48 maxter [~maxter@gaffeless.chaperon.volia.net] has joined #lisp 13:28:07 nilsi [~nilsi@46.165.220.223] has joined #lisp 13:28:46 nilsi_ [~nilsi@61.172.24.42] has joined #lisp 13:29:09 clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has joined #lisp 13:31:00 __quasi: have a look at: com.informatimago.common-lisp.cesarum.ascii:read-ascii-line 13:31:39 cl-memcached is under a bsd license, and that's probably gpl 13:32:13 https://gitorious.org/com-informatimago/com-informatimago/source/b9a21b193f6025fe664d85838c69b929aa8d1623:common-lisp/cesarum/ascii.lisp#L356 13:32:31 It's definitely, not only GPL, but AGPL3! 13:32:40 Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.103] has joined #lisp 13:32:48 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@46.165.220.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:32:53 *p_l* moves a bit away to avoid contagion 13:33:36 You're not very friendly to your users are you? 13:34:29 -!- grubnik [c2ed8e07@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.237.142.7] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:34:32 <__quasi> ogamita: ? 13:35:06 lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has joined #lisp 13:35:17 victor_lowther [~victorlow@143.166.116.80] has joined #lisp 13:35:36 ogamita: I'd rather be friendly by choice than force ;() 13:35:55 <__quasi> the new version licence has changed to MIT (thought I don't much care) I thought BSD was friendly enough 13:36:24 well, MIT is incompatible with AGPL3 too, so, better don't copy that function 13:37:47 <__quasi> stassats: yeah. but it is easy 'nuff to write a simpler version for my needs. :) 13:38:17 BeLucid_ [~belucid@cpe-066-057-034-009.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 13:38:26 -!- H4ns [hans@netzhansa.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:36 H4ns [hans@netzhansa.com] has joined #lisp 13:39:15 -!- BeLucid [~belucid@cpe-066-057-034-009.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:39:24 andreh_ [~andreh@186.213.204.71] has joined #lisp 13:40:29 -!- hellome [~lua@192.73.239.25] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:41:20 __quasi: here's one: http://paste.lisp.org/display/138800 13:41:24 under public domain 13:41:36 (but i haven't run it) 13:41:56 eh, the stream args to write-char are wrong 13:42:06 hellome [~lua@192.73.239.25] has joined #lisp 13:42:24 corrected: http://paste.lisp.org/display/138800#1 13:44:14 i'm not sure whether #\Return can appear in the middle without a following #\Newline, so i assumed that it can 13:45:35 -!- JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:45:45 Depends on the protocol. 13:45:52 JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #lisp 13:45:54 void64 [~luke@37.17.115.154] has joined #lisp 13:46:04 -!- JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:46:06 TCP protocols usually allows it (not a newline) but discourage it too. 13:46:07 and there i though it depended on the phase of the moon 13:46:11 thought 13:46:33 <__quasi> it will work at least for the memcached protocol .. 13:46:41 <__quasi> stassats: thanks. 13:46:42 My point is that you have to read the RFC or ISO specifications. 13:46:57 __quasi: does it work? i haven't tried running it 13:46:58 Not enough people do, that's why you can't put your email address into those web forms. 13:47:07 <__quasi> stassats: yes. works 13:47:08 too lazy to create a binary stream with crlfs 13:47:35 JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #lisp 13:47:43 normanrichards [~normanric@70.114.215.220] has joined #lisp 13:47:58 you can always optimize it later 13:48:10 -!- JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:48:31 gleag [~gleag@71.175.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #lisp 13:49:00 drmeister [~drmeister@mobile-166-147-109-202.mycingular.net] has joined #lisp 13:49:45 JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #lisp 13:49:51 duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has joined #lisp 13:50:11 -!- JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:50:11 but i assume that the number of control commands is less than the data, so it shouldn't seriously impact performance 13:51:44 JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #lisp 13:53:33 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55:41 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:57:25 -!- Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:58:12 SBCL 1.1.11 Linux AMD64 from the downloaded binary will not run for me. 13:58:24 sbcl: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by sbcl) 13:59:07 compile sbcl from source 13:59:32 Right, that's what I want to do. But my understanding is that you need SBCL running to compile it. 14:00:15 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@mobile-166-147-109-202.mycingular.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:22 not necessarily, but it's the best, take an older one 14:00:31 the best bet 14:00:58 BeLucid [~belucid@cpe-066-057-034-009.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 14:01:00 Where would I find older binaries? 14:01:07 danielszmulewicz [~danielszm@109.226.23.125] has joined #lisp 14:01:11 -!- BeLucid_ [~belucid@cpe-066-057-034-009.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: No buffer space available] 14:01:12 on sourceforge 14:01:18 or if your os provides one 14:01:19 arare_ [~Aramur@153.68.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #lisp 14:02:03 Yeah, but Debian will common-lisp-controller it, and I don't want that. 14:02:13 *LiamH* searches sf 14:02:25 you can purge it after compiling your own 14:03:06 it should be the best option, because the one you download from SF can be not old enough, or too old 14:03:27 My 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says that? 14:09:13 3.2.0-4-amd64 14:09:23 3.2.0 is ok for old sbcl 14:09:55 debian did that for backwards compatibility, because many programs failed with just 3.2 14:10:17 quite a silly failure mode 14:10:19 LiamH: If you're adventurous, you could try cross-compiling SBCL from CCL. 14:10:42 it doesn't work with the latest ccl 14:10:48 If you're not adventurous, you might as well do it anyway if you're as naturally curious whether it still works as I am. 14:10:53 Oh, bummer. 14:10:56 poppingtonic [~poppingto@212.49.88.98] has joined #lisp 14:11:06 macrobat [~beep@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 14:11:14 Uhm, CLISP? 14:11:21 it requires just one eval-when to work, but i still blame ccl 14:11:30 -!- Codynyx [~cody@c-75-72-187-16.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:11:31 I have an idea: I have another computer with the same architecture/OS that has a running SBCL... 14:12:06 Is it a bug in the CCL's implementation? 14:12:18 Or simply a portability issue? 14:12:42 -!- mcsontos [mcsontos@nat/redhat/x-sulnzkzapqxypnrh] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:12:58 Codynyx [~cody@c-75-72-187-16.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 14:12:59 1.0.55 doesn't work either 14:13:16 try 1.0.23 next! 14:13:30 seriously? 14:13:42 yep 14:14:06 december 2008, wow 14:14:09 <__quasi> a version with one less loop and taking care of the #\Return without the #\Newline http://paste.lisp.org/display/138800#2 14:15:00 __quasi: but what if it's crcrlf? 14:15:06 that's why i had the loop 14:15:52 <__quasi> stassats: oh. 14:15:55 Is it possible to link SBCL's kernel with libc and stuff statically? 14:16:19 -!- void64 [~luke@37.17.115.154] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:16:23 -!- poppingtonic [~poppingto@212.49.88.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:16:29 woo-hoo! 1.0.23 works! 14:16:30 That could be useful for bootstrapping binaries that would be more resilient against the versioning hell. 14:16:50 -!- mgile 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MS-Windows is a whole another nest of ratsnakes. 15:40:14 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-163-211.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:40:20 *genkinodenki* curses MS's "drive letter" bullshit 15:40:24 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-87-79-250-206.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 15:40:41 -!- ampersand27017 [~ampersand@69.3.174.98] has quit [Quit: ampersand27017] 15:41:12 -!- andy_arvid [~andy@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:41:13 genkinodenki: So why are you using ms? 15:41:43 xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.139.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #lisp 15:41:50 because I play games, edit videos and make music and haven't found linux to satisfy these needs yet 15:43:07 DalekBaldwin [~Adium@66-146-163-200.skyriver.net] has joined #lisp 15:43:15 -!- hellome [~lua@192.73.239.25] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:23 genkinodenki: Wine a-little for your games? :^) 15:43:26 so, why is there a discussion about windows vs not-windows on #lisp? 15:43:31 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-180-111.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:43:49 stassats: is there? 15:43:57 Let's rewrite ReactOS in Clojure... 15:44:52 hellome [~lua@192.73.239.25] has joined #lisp 15:45:04 ltbarcly [~textual@216.113.168.141] has joined #lisp 15:45:10 youlysses: nice concept, in practice not always so. besides there are many good games ported to linux already so I rather play native ports when I am on linux (e.g. on my laptop). wine feels like a hack. 15:45:10 andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #lisp 15:45:17 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-67-176-62-45.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:45:23 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-180-111.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 15:45:29 genkinodenki: you can stop now 15:45:42 youlysses: clojure is off-topic too 15:45:54 I like pandas 15:46:15 stassats: I was purposely being obnoxious. ;^) 15:50:59 That being said, I think I'd much-rather gut and 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travisr [~travisrod@17.223.151.202] has joined #lisp 17:10:02 Xach you here ? 17:10:08 or was it stassats....meh 17:10:19 -!- bitonic [~user@xdsl-188-155-179-93.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:10:26 you can ask your question and we'll see who's there 17:10:36 ok 17:12:53 Kabaka [~Kabaka@botters/kabaka] has joined #lisp 17:13:28 ck`` [~user@aftr-37-24-144-185.unity-media.net] has joined #lisp 17:15:21 http://paste.lisp.org/display/138805 17:17:00 what's weird about it? 17:17:17 or better just tell how do you want it to be printed? 17:18:07 and do you know that #x0fffffffffffffff is the same as #xfffffffffffffff? 17:18:07 well the ash 1 was not working as expected, as it was printing a #B1..... right after the B there.... 17:18:21 (ash 0 size) does nothing 17:18:32 wait 17:18:35 -!- sellout- [~Adium@66.185.107.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:18:37 the other way around 17:18:55 but anyway, do you just want to cut off n bytes? 17:19:13 and the '0,4:B or '0,0:B things did weird things too, together with '0,4@B or '0,0@B 17:19:38 can you just tell what you want to do? 17:19:44 (ash 0 x) == 0 17:19:48 hmm, how shall i say, grouping is gone, instead i get fillers by 0 now but grouping is gone... 17:20:16 tiglog [~tiglog@123.116.80.107] has joined #lisp 17:20:22 i just wanted to print #xff00 and #00ff the way that 0's get prepended in the second version 17:20:31 i mean #00ff 17:20:53 which second version? 17:21:07 both invocations of :bin are the same 17:21:10 the #x00ff instead of #xff00 17:21:23 not really 17:21:24 -!- seangrov` [~user@c-69-181-197-122.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:21:30 both are not the same 17:21:31 maybe you pasted the wrong thing? 17:21:46 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.139.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:21:48 no i just used a longer version of the numbers that's all 17:22:08 (:bin #x0fffffffffffffff) is the same as (:bin #xfffffffffffffff) 17:22:23 and the output, expectedly, is the same 17:23:03 wait, which are the higher bits in the repr. #xfffffffffff..... 17:23:10 left to x or rightmost ? 17:23:20 err i mean next to x or rightmost ? 17:23:35 the least-significant bits are on the right 17:23:48 the most significant are on the left, just like at school 17:24:42 ok how do i get the grouping back then ? 17:24:51 i wanted groupings of 4 digits 17:25:53 like 0000 1111 1111 1111....... 17:28:04 -!- DalekBaldwin [~Adium@66-146-163-200.skyriver.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:28:42 -!- Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:54 -!- fisxoj [~fisxoj@192-0-131-151.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:28:54 Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.109] has joined #lisp 17:28:57 it doesn't seem that you can do that 17:29:20 since the pad chars are calculated with spaces together, and no spaces are inserted 17:29:27 so, you can't use format here 17:29:47 ah ok 17:30:38 -!- andreh_ 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Why wouldn't it group bits? 17:34:50 sellout- [~Adium@66.185.107.123] has joined #lisp 17:34:52 But right, not when it's filled. 17:35:15 DalekBaldwin [~Adium@66-146-163-200.skyriver.net] has joined #lisp 17:35:15 ~b needs : to group things 17:36:11 (format nil "~@{~32,'0,' ,4:B / ~}" 42 (- (expt 2 32) 42)) => "000000000000000000000000010 1010 / 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1101 0110 / " 17:36:16 -!- Lefeni [~Lefeni@c-0941e555.143-16-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:36:54 yes it does grouping, but not when its filled.... 17:37:05 although the example in clhs says (format nil "~19,0,' ,4:B" 3333) => "0000 1101 0000 0101", but the example itself is broken, since it has to be '0 17:37:32 is the '0 some sbclism or so ? 17:37:37 no 17:37:40 ah ok 17:37:55 it means the character 0 rather than the number 0. 17:38:04 hmmm 17:38:17 the example is just incorrect, so i wouldn't go trusting its output either 17:38:24 and examples are not normative in any case 17:38:56 Instead of #\0 (format nil "~,#\\0,#\\,,4:B" #xbabeface) 17:39:18 -!- joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:39:29 so better write it as (format nil "~,'0,',,4:B" #xbabeface) 17:40:31 nope 17:40:34 (format nil "~,'0,',,4:B" #x00ff) 17:40:38 -!- ASau [~user@p4FF96BB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:43 (format nil "~,'0,',,4:B" #xff00) 17:41:00 not the same width.... 17:41:24 Sure, you need the first argument to fix the width. 17:41:31 ASau [~user@p4FF96BB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 17:41:33 you didn't even specify mincol, how couldit possibly know 17:41:49 Anyways, ~B can't do what you want. 17:42:02 and stassats wrote what you want, so that's convenient 17:42:03 you can't do what you want with pure format, use what i pasted 17:42:03 ok, yes your version is better 17:42:04 if you want to replicate the format string from the usenet thread about it, it's (format t "~81,'0,' ,4:B" (dpb (byte 64 0) (ash 1 64))) 17:43:07 -!- travisr [~travisrod@17.223.151.202] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:43:11 przl [~przlrkt@p5B298740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 17:43:36 why was the left shift necessary ? 17:43:46 err right i mean... 17:44:03 this will just print 1 at the left 17:44:10 so that padding is not applied 17:44:17 but the number is wrong anyhow 17:44:35 aah ok then, now it gets resolved for me.... 17:45:02 (subseq (format nil "~,,' ,4:B" (dpb 10 (byte 64 0) (ash 1 64))) 2) => "0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1010" 17:45:14 but that's just bogus 17:45:43 sdemarre [~serge@109.134.148.88] has joined #lisp 17:45:45 (princ (subseq (format nil "~81,'0,' ,4:B" (dpb 1 (byte 1 64) )) 2)) 17:45:53 That works. 17:46:14 there's no need to specify padding, and you're late 17:46:31 I'm not late, I was improving on you dpb! 17:46:46 it's not my dpb 17:47:05 and yours does not cut a larger number to 64 bit 17:48:15 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5B298740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:49:04 Right. 17:49:14 travisr [~travisrod@17.223.151.202] has joined #lisp 17:49:19 -!- maxter [~maxter@gaffeless.chaperon.volia.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:52:01 dkordic [~danilo@93-87-124-217.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #lisp 17:56:18 sohail [~sohail@206-248-183-162.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #lisp 17:56:18 -!- sohail [~sohail@206-248-183-162.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Changing host] 17:56:18 sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has joined #lisp 17:59:32 -!- didi [~user@unaffiliated/didi/x-1022147] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 17:59:49 Fe [~l@84.233.246.170] has joined #lisp 18:00:51 -!- Fe [~l@84.233.246.170] has left #lisp 18:02:38 -!- Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:02:59 nialo- [~yaaic@66-87-116-170.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #lisp 18:03:08 -!- benkard [~benkard@2a01:198:6d5:0:a445:6a75:3989:f7c7] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz] 18:03:58 seangrov` [~user@208.80.69.42] has joined #lisp 18:04:08 andreh_ [~andreh@189-31-21-254.bsace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #lisp 18:06:21 puchacz [~puchacz@46-65-36-47.zone16.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 18:07:18 -!- nialo [~nialo@ool-44c53f01.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:08:00 cffi, sbcl:Not all platforms support callbacks. what does that mean ? 18:08:07 which platforms ? 18:08:39 probably none worth caring about 18:08:58 ok 18:10:45 klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has joined #lisp 18:11:06 -!- puchacz [~puchacz@46-65-36-47.zone16.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 18:11:29 Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.109] has joined #lisp 18:12:12 oleo: sparc, hppa and alpha don't have them 18:12:41 hmmm, is sbcl already ported to arm ? 18:13:21 no 18:13:41 Hi, is there a way to mark all the grayed-out files in an Emacs dired (for deletion), e.g. *.fasl, *.dx64fsl, *~ ? (they display grayed-out already, at least with Slime loaded). 18:14:14 manually i can go through and type d next to each one. 18:14:20 #emacs 18:14:43 normanrichards [~normanric@rrcs-108-178-120-144.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #lisp 18:14:48 ok. i thought it was a Slime thing. But I see what you mean. 18:15:29 dired-flag-garbage-files probably 18:15:56 -!- normanrichards [~normanric@rrcs-108-178-120-144.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:16:06 benkard [~benkard@2a01:198:6d5:0:653a:79b7:56a9:52bb] has joined #lisp 18:16:29 (nope) 18:19:27 -!- andreh_ [~andreh@189-31-21-254.bsace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:19:41 gendl: (imagine we're in #emacs): (dired-flag-files-regexp (regexp-opt completion-ignored-extensions)) 18:19:47 through M-: 18:20:11 dtw [~dtw@pdpc/supporter/active/dtw] has joined #lisp 18:20:16 better just put your fasls away from .lisp files 18:20:20 youlysses: Download Open Genera from the shady sources, program an FPGA board to run it, share the FPGA design results. ;) 18:20:25 andreh_ [~andreh@189-31-53-14.bsace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #lisp 18:21:19 How is McCLIM these days, anyway? I noticed the release was very old, but QL seems to suggest that the development is still going on...? 18:21:41 buggy 18:21:46 please help improve it 18:22:06 Is the main backend still X11? 18:22:10 i was going to see if i could program my fpga like "lambda the ultimate opcode", actually, if only for giggles 18:22:19 Quadrescence: it implements clim, can't improve that 18:22:27 ;) 18:22:38 i still didn't get the non-exhaustive-stack implementation of the nlet in lol 18:22:47 it returns a form where the args are set via psetq in the body and the tail is just recursin over that body via tagbody go 18:22:59 how is that savin stack ? 18:23:02 that may have sounded like a positive thing, i meant, it uses clim, it's beyond salvation 18:23:06 That's the same kind of fallacy as saying that SBCL/CCL already implement CL, therefore can't be improved... 18:23:27 stassats is just sour about CLIM. ;) 18:23:29 no, yeah, stassats meant: "clim sucks". coded message there. 18:23:38 My experience with McCLIM was horrible, but that's just me: I always trigger an obscure error within almost any SW within minutes. 18:23:52 CLIM was the easiest environment in which I could make interactive, editable tables 18:24:15 just because the recursion is the last form ? 18:24:16 without writing 10k loc 18:25:27 well i try things.... 18:25:42 but am not in the position to push anything, maybe just fragments.... 18:25:51 with mcclim i meant..... 18:26:00 fragments indeed 18:26:34 -!- benkard [~benkard@2a01:198:6d5:0:653a:79b7:56a9:52bb] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Just use clsql with the mysql backend. 21:48:11 You may also try http://www.cliki.net/cl-mysql 21:50:23 -!- sellout- [~Adium@66.185.107.123] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:52:46 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52:59 I was thinking about fun 21:53:10 Projects to do 21:54:06 -!- kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:54:12 You could choreograph an interpretive ballet on the virtues of lisping. 21:54:20 -!- LiamH [~healy@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:54:43 And maybe make a program to create a manifest for a web app 21:54:56 sohail [~sohail@206-248-183-162.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #lisp 21:54:57 -!- sohail [~sohail@206-248-183-162.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Changing host] 21:54:57 sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has joined #lisp 21:55:02 Nice lol 21:55:51 Zhivago: Interpretive? Sure, but no cheating. Use Clisp to do that. 21:56:21 -!- seangrov` [~user@208.80.69.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:56:30 AndroUser: When I was thinking of a web app framework, it occurred to me that all such things ought to be generated automatically. 21:56:37 eighths77 [~eighths77@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:57:10 -!- duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:11 I'd suggest something like angularjs -- then the web app becomes a bunch of json feed providers. 21:58:34 Wow angularjs never seen that before! Need a moment 21:58:36 oleo: maybe 21:58:36 Don't you still need to somehow generate the HTML and CSS thingies? 21:58:59 Yeah, but that can be as a single file that encompasses the whole thing. 21:59:19 (Even if you're doing updates without page reloads...) 21:59:19 So you could start manually, and then upgrade to some automatic webapp client generator. 22:00:00 -!- francogrex [~user@239.163-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:28 I wonder how web app manifests go together with the "push everything over JSON" approach. There's not much to manifest that way. 22:01:04 Eccept for static resources which the Lisp web framework in question, again, would probably collect automatically instead of requiring you to maintain a file for it. 22:01:22 -!- francis_wolke [62cf9ba1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.98.207.155.161] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:01:24 *gleag* is a generative nazi... 22:01:52 I was reading about the manifest stuff on the mozilla website for fire fox os web apps 22:02:23 And they had a minimal manifest as an example 22:02:57 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 22:04:20 Zhivago: wouldn't even "something like angularjs" profit from being a lispy server-side thingy? 22:04:35 So that I wouldn't have to deal with the nasty <>s... 22:04:51 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:04:55 And so that I could write nice S-expressions and use macros... 22:04:57 I like that idea 22:05:08 Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.101] has joined #lisp 22:06:09 ehu [~Erik@109.38.254.148] has joined #lisp 22:06:32 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 22:07:13 gleag: Could be -- use paredit, etc. 22:08:49 AndroUser: see? you have fun project to do! :) 22:09:32 :-) 22:10:12 francis_wolke [62cf9ba1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.98.207.155.161] has joined #lisp 22:14:35 benkard [~benkard@2a01:198:6d5:0:4de1:c39:9d62:11ad] has joined #lisp 22:14:47 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-168-17.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:34 -!- boogie [~boogie@wsip-98-172-168-236.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19:59 -!- ZC|Mobile [~weechat@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:22:41 nobla [~nobla@c-71-63-19-18.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:23:37 -!- WarWeasle [~brad@162.72.14.206] has left #lisp 22:23:46 speaking of fun projects, is there a CL implementation for Chrome OS? 22:24:38 -!- AndroUser [~androirc@c-71-63-19-18.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 22:26:29 -!- victor_lowther [~victorlow@143.166.116.80] has quit [Quit: Leaving IRC - dircproxy 1.2.0] 22:27:14 I've used crouton to get Ubuntu and then do it that way, that is probably good enough. 22:28:08 -!- Trenif [~Lefeni@c-0941e555.143-16-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:29:14 ISF [~ivan@201.82.138.219] has joined #lisp 22:30:49 -!- Kabaka [~Kabaka@botters/kabaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:33:56 -!- sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:34:46 Kabaka [~Kabaka@botters/kabaka] has joined #lisp 22:37:17 -!- nobla [~nobla@c-71-63-19-18.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has left #lisp 22:37:28 bitonic` [~user@ppp-188-144.27-151.libero.it] has joined #lisp 22:37:32 boogie [~boogie@wsip-98-172-168-236.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 22:40:08 nobla: As long as NaCL was fully native, there was an option of porting a normal implementation of CL (an incremental native compiler) to Chrome OS. 22:40:49 nobla: but ever since PNaCL started being pushed, the future of this approach became bleak. 22:41:49 The mocl people have andvantage, though; their compiler might work with PNaCL with minimal modifications. 22:42:32 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c0729.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:43:29 -!- rk[fire] is now known as ryankarason 22:43:37 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 22:43:41 -!- Codynyx [~cody@c-75-72-187-16.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:45:29 Codynyx [~cody@c-75-72-187-16.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:50:30 -!- statl [~statl@dslb-094-218-028-145.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:51:42 -!- k0001 [~k0001@host97.190-138-114.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:53:32 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:53:43 -!- Nisstyre-laptop is now known as Nisstyre 22:55:17 -!- wormphlegm [~wormphleg@24.130.9.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:55:19 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:56:47 wormphlegm [~wormphleg@24.130.9.50] has joined #lisp 23:00:44 -!- andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:05 andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #lisp 23:02:04 not sure if anyone has asked this recently, but I just tried to use sbcl 1.1.11 under linux and it's apparently incompatible with quicklisp 23:02:31 it's unable to require sb-posix according to the debugger output 23:02:43 am I crazy? has this happened to anyone else? 23:03:48 If you don't load QL, sb-posix works, and if you do load it, sb-posix doesn't work? That's what you're saying? 23:03:59 ericmathison [~ericmathi@172-15-249-133.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 23:04:07 WarWeasle [~Kaltara@162.72.14.206] has joined #lisp 23:05:00 -!- klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:05:21 I'm sorry. I'm just trying to load quicklisp/setup.lisp 23:05:25 and I get this error 23:05:25 -!- jlongster [~user@pool-173-53-114-190.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:05:59 In that case, you ought to try to require sb-posix without QL. 23:06:08 -!- Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:06:18 There's a chance that QL actually doesn't have anything to do with your problem. 23:06:33 klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has joined #lisp 23:06:36 "Don't know how to REQUIRE SB-POSIX" 23:07:08 -!- boogie [~boogie@wsip-98-172-168-236.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08:18 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 23:08:48 photex: that's what QL says or what SBCL says when you try (require :sb-posix) in a freshly loaded image? 23:08:58 persizzl [~persizzl@unaffiliated/persizzl] has joined #lisp 23:09:17 photex: If the latter, your SBCL is probably broken. 23:09:26 that is what sbcl says if I try to (require :sb-posix) in a fresh image 23:09:42 well, I tried to build 1.1.11 and I also tried the pre-built binary from sbcl.org 23:09:47 both exhibit this problem 23:09:50 1.1.10 works fine 23:10:04 I'm just wondering if I'm the only one :) 23:10:12 with the issue I mean 23:10:20 nobody else has had any trouble with 1.1.11? 23:10:29 My SBCL succesfully loads sb-posix even on a Win32 box. :D 23:10:34 -!- andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10:39 1.1.11 here... 23:10:47 what about a linux 64-bit box? 23:10:55 andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #lisp 23:11:06 Well, that's what I plan to install over the weekend. 23:11:47 But the good news is that QL apparently has nothing to do with your problem. :) 23:11:59 it will be interesting to find out if this is a problem for you as well then 23:12:01 -!- kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:21 photex: SBCL has a bunch of tests that run for contribs, and a whole subdirectory of tests that you can (and should) run. Haven't you noticed anything out of the ordinary? 23:14:16 (Well, contribs...I'm not sure if sb-posix counts as that, but there surely are at least some tests for many sb-s...) 23:20:58 -!- andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:09 andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #lisp 23:24:51 k0001 [~k0001@host97.190-138-114.telecom.net.ar] has joined #lisp 23:25:00 -!- Karl_dscc [~localhost@p5B2B2B0E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:30:23 -!- persizzl [~persizzl@unaffiliated/persizzl] has left #lisp 23:31:08 -!- andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:22 andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #lisp 23:31:40 -!- optikalmouse [~omouse@69-165-245-60.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:31:42 -!- benkard [~benkard@2a01:198:6d5:0:4de1:c39:9d62:11ad] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:33:02 -!- bja [~bja@c-98-222-22-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:34:30 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Quit: bye] 23:35:11 chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 23:37:39 boogie [~boogie@wsip-98-172-168-236.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 23:41:22 Bike_ [~Glossina@69.166.47.105] has joined #lisp 23:43:31 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:44:52 sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has joined #lisp 23:46:19 -!- boogie [~boogie@wsip-98-172-168-236.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:47:13 -!- Bike_ [~Glossina@69.166.47.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:48:07 -!- ivan\ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:48:13 Lefeni [~Lefeni@c-0941e555.143-16-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #lisp 23:48:59 -!- klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:49:16 ivan\ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined #lisp 23:50:22 -!- andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:50:39 andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #lisp 23:50:46 -!- Shinmera [~linus@80.77.87.239] has quit [Quit: ZzzZ] 23:51:02 -!- WarWeasle [~Kaltara@162.72.14.206] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 23:54:13 kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has joined #lisp 23:55:37 Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.103] has joined #lisp 23:56:39 -!- andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:57:00 andy_arvid [~user@201-34-28-134.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #lisp 23:57:11 seangrov` [~user@2600:1010:b00f:7a10:78b2:5aff:e0b3:4bee] has joined #lisp