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That's awsome 00:15:28 slime integration may not even work, i need to check and fix it sometimes 00:15:34 but i won't be using slime by that time, hopefully 00:17:06 SLIME is fine for me 00:17:09 for now at least 00:18:31 Which license is this: https://raw.github.com/lichtblau/CommonQt/master/LICENSE ? 00:19:33 2-clause bsd, looks like 00:19:42 https://github.com/stassats/commonqt is the correct repo on github 00:19:51 oh so it's your project stassats ? 00:19:59 because I'm writing a PKGBUILD for archlinux, is why I ask 00:20:05 you can see: https://github.com/stassats/commonqt/blob/master/qt.asd#L65 00:20:25 stassats: thanks 00:20:38 the canonical repo is at http://gitorious.org/commonqt/commonqt 00:20:52 which would you prefer me to say is the 'homepage' of the project? 00:20:55 the gitorious one? 00:21:01 http://common-lisp.net/project/commonqt/ 00:21:07 thanks 00:21:16 and does gitorious.org look weird or what 00:21:21 well yeah 00:21:23 :D 00:21:41 -!- gmcastil 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nightshade427 [nightshade@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:feae:fb24] has joined #lisp 05:05:19 is there a way to make a bound symbol from a string? for example, if I wanted to take "CL:LOOP" and turn it into 'CL:LOOP 05:06:22 read. better would be find-symbol, but it would be mildly tricky to separate the package prefix from the symbol name. 05:07:52 -!- didi [~user@unaffiliated/didi/x-1022147] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 05:08:39 void64 [~luke@37.17.112.226] has joined #lisp 05:09:07 -!- ampersand27017 [~ampersand@76.91.115.14] has quit [Quit: ampersand27017] 05:09:29 ahh 05:09:59 read-from-string, rather than read 05:09:59 so, is there any utility to having both ' and `? 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Several source files, perhaps in different directories? 13:41:53 mpstyler, whatever. But I think it's common to have just one (in-package #:my-package) per source file. 13:43:33 mpstyler: there are a lot of different styles. you can browse some of the available projects to see what you like. 13:46:13 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:46:32 lyanchih [~lyanchih@114-34-99-241.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 13:47:51 normanrichards [~normanric@70.114.215.220] has joined #lisp 13:48:12 statl [~statl@dslb-094-218-225-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 13:49:37 fridim_ [~fridim@bas2-montreal07-2925317871.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 13:49:52 clmsy [~clmsy@178.233.22.39] has joined #lisp 13:50:57 JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-76-180-168-166.buffalo.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 13:54:17 void64 [~luke@37.17.113.245] has joined #lisp 13:54:18 -!- clmsy [~clmsy@178.233.22.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:55:36 -!- harish_ [~harish@119.56.120.125] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:55:58 harish [~harish@119.56.126.73] has 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has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:48:38 |3b|: So... oddly enough the esrap issue I had re-appeared today. Same error, but apparently it happens every time I load it /except/ if I load it for the first time after I first install slime. 21:49:45 |3b|: I even tried installing the cvs version of slime (which has the changelog date of 2013-05-26) but that didn't help either. 21:52:19 -!- puchacz [~puchacz@46-65-36-47.zone16.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:52:57 sirdancealo2 [~sirdancea@cst-prg-2-255.cust.vodafone.cz] has joined #lisp 21:53:20 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@c-50-172-44-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:53:23 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.4.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:56:48 -!- ehu [ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:59:18 -!- knob [~knob@66-50-3-27.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:59:52 knob [~knob@66-50-3-27.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 21:59:58 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09:24 -!- knob [~knob@66-50-3-27.prtc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:20:15 -!- sirdancealo2 [~sirdancea@cst-prg-2-255.cust.vodafone.cz] has quit [Quit: Ragequit] 22:27:31 -!- _d3f [~gnu@79.172.193.111] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 22:32:13 Shinmera: what's the problem ? 22:33:30 -!- prxq_ [~mommer@mnhm-4d0110a8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:33:38 fe[nl]ix: When I tried to load esrap before, I got a condition saying that the variable swank::*application-hints-tables* was unbound 22:39:41 yeah, that code there isn't very well written 22:39:59 I tried the option to treat the file as being loaded correctly 22:40:03 and... now it always works 22:40:14 even after deleting the fasls for it and uninstalling/requickloading it 22:40:27 I have no idea what's going on. 22:40:43 try another machine 22:41:54 Shinmera: you can simply comment the last two forms in that file 22:42:22 slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.4.22] has joined #lisp 22:42:45 JuanDaugherty: Hmm, I get the same error on my laptop, but I mirror almost everything, so that's no surprise. 22:43:59 if you're talking about sbcl, had a similar situation, never found why but that addressed it 22:44:51 presume it's some file tree squirrelled someplace 22:49:07 fe[nl]ix: Alright, I'll keep that in mind if it occurs again 22:50:01 -!- youlysses [~user@24-217-211-79.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:50:04 Shinmera: it will occur, you're just lucky now 22:50:16 so comment them out 22:50:29 fe[nl]ix: Should I file a ticket on github as well? 22:50:59 eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-53-152.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #lisp 22:51:39 yes 22:51:51 Alright. 22:53:46 -!- doomlord__ [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:54:18 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:56:55 Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-139-160.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 23:01:42 -!- chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:10:01 -!- arrsim [~user@27-32-235-88.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #lisp 23:11:01 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.4.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:12:36 -!- statl [~statl@dslb-094-218-229-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:12:36 Vivitron [~Vivitron@c-50-172-44-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:14:35 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5DCA32DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:16:33 -!- void64 [~luke@37.212.191.60] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:19:18 namtsui [~user@c-76-21-121-73.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:20:13 -!- arnsa [~arnsa@78-63-18-208.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:20:33 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@183.245.65.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:24:41 gjcross [~gjcross@ppp118-209-64-228.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 23:29:26 chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 23:30:13 nilsi [~nilsi@183.245.65.242] has joined #lisp 23:30:42 jerryzhou [~jerryzhou@58.245.253.218] has joined #lisp 23:36:05 chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has joined #lisp 23:38:46 -!- davazp [~user@178.167.213.9.threembb.ie] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:39:12 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@183.245.65.242] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:46 nilsi [~nilsi@46.165.220.223] has joined #lisp 23:39:57 -!- jerryzhou [~jerryzhou@58.245.253.218] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:40:15 *squirreled 23:45:38 -!- mlamari_ [~quassel@cpe-70-112-159-86.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45:54 mlamari [~quassel@cpe-70-112-159-86.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 23:46:21 andreh [~andreh@177.133.52.29.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #lisp 23:47:59 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-53-152.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:52:09 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@46.165.220.223] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:52:44 nilsi [~nilsi@46.165.220.223] has joined #lisp 23:55:31 persizzl [~persizzl@unaffiliated/persizzl] has joined #lisp 23:58:12 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@46.165.220.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:59:24 fridim_ [~fridim@bas2-montreal07-2925317871.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp