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Every time I check to see if it's done, it's working on a different pjb: library with ABCL. pjb either has a ton of libs in quicklisp or they really make the ABCL compiler work for its money.... 03:58:21 namtsui [~user@76.21.121.73] has joined #lisp 04:01:04 -!- shaungilchrist [~chatzilla@c-67-182-222-192.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:03:05 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@118-163-141-228.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: lyanchih] 04:03:57 weie [~eie@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has joined #lisp 04:05:52 -!- kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:10:21 BAMbanda [~BAMbanda@2601:a:3f00:14b:b914:739e:ffae:b1f9] has joined #lisp 04:10:44 -!- xaxisx [~xaxisx@192-0-202-68.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: xaxisx] 04:11:06 what sort of applications can be written in lisp? 04:11:21 and how close to the machine can one get with it? 04:12:32 <|3b|> same sort of applications as in any other turing complete language 04:12:33 fridim_ [~fridim@bas2-montreal07-2925317871.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 04:12:42 You can write anything, and it's pretty "close to the metal" with more heap utilization (I think). 04:13:00 BAMbanda: those are 2 question. 1st lisp is turing complete, so pretty much anything. 2nd what do you mean by low level? 04:13:14 <|3b|> many implementations of CL provide some way to embed assembly, so pretty close if you really want to 04:13:38 |3b| thanks you've answered it pretty much 04:13:50 I'm new to it and am excited by what people say about it 04:14:01 close to the machine meaning, embedded systems type stuff 04:14:23 <|3b|> but keep in mind it is still a garbage collected language, and not many (if any?) implementations have a GC tuned for 'realtime' work, so that might affect its usefulness for some tasks 04:14:29 BAMbanda: there are actually quite a few lisps that are specifically for embedded platforms. like armpit scheme 04:14:46 <|3b|> or rather most implementations use GC, spec doesn't actually require it 04:14:56 armpit and scheme are two separate implementations? CADD 04:15:17 BAMbanda: no. its an implementation of scheme for the ARM architecture 04:15:29 *|3b|* is specifically talking about CL, other dialects might have different features available 04:15:45 how long have you guys been lisping 04:15:55 -!- lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:15:56 BAMbanda: also: http://ecls.sourceforge.net/ 04:16:01 whats the learning curve for someone coming from python and javascript 04:16:08 it's not hard to learn. 04:16:16 BAMbanda: a couple of years. im only 20 yrs old. 04:16:32 CADD, cool, im turning 19 04:16:34 <|3b|> minion: tell BAMbanda about pcl 04:16:35 BAMbanda: please look at pcl: pcl-book: "Practical Common Lisp", an introduction to Common Lisp by Peter Seibel, available at http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ and in dead-tree form from Apress (as of 11 April 2005). 04:16:41 BAMbanda: the learning curve is not all that bad. if you want a crazy learning curve, try haskell.. :) 04:16:50 hmmmm 04:17:03 the language is very flexible 04:17:06 |3b| what about paul grahams ANSI Common LISP book 04:17:17 minion: graham-crackers 04:17:18 graham-crackers: An critique of Paul Graham's coding style, specifically as found in his book "ANSI Common Lisp", available here: http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/academics/courses/325/readings/graham/graham-notes.html 04:17:25 <|3b|> pg doesn't really seem to like CL, so avoids a bunch of major features 04:17:33 BAMbanda: also, if you want a good learning language(that can grow with you) with a nice IDE. try racket 04:17:35 like CLOS. it's pretty silly. 04:18:07 racket? hmm I just got interested in LISP and now you want me to leave! lol 04:18:36 CADD, actually i just googled and its a dialect, sorry for ignorance 04:18:38 BAMbanda: well it is a lisp 04:18:43 BAMbanda: no worries :) 04:18:47 this channel is about CL, though, just so you know 04:18:51 yup 04:19:00 there is a #racket channel too 04:19:04 im in there too, lol 04:19:11 lol cool, I downloaded clisp 04:19:11 not "lisp generally" or whatever, you'll get more help with racket in #racket, etc. 04:19:25 BAMbanda: i would recomend avoiding clisp 04:19:26 -!- ampersand27017 [~ampersand@76.91.115.14] has quit [Quit: ampersand27017] 04:19:28 BAMbanda: go for sbcl 04:19:42 can I get it with sudo apt-get install sbcl 04:19:50 yeah, it'll be kind of old, though. 04:19:55 BAMbanda: im pretty sure. i dont run ubuntu 04:20:02 <|3b|> clisp is one of the less 'close to the machine' cl implementations, but also one of the more likely to run on unusual/small platforms 04:20:09 you might want to think of the editor you will use 04:20:12 many people use emacs+slime 04:20:16 what about vim 04:20:24 of course 04:21:01 ok so i'm confused now. Should I start with racket, sbcl, or scheme? 04:21:06 sbcl 04:21:07 heh 04:21:08 sbcl 04:21:11 sbcl 04:21:12 nice 04:22:07 will practical common lisp correlate wih sbcl? 04:22:10 racket is a scheme, btw. 04:22:13 oh yeah 04:22:18 sbcl is a ansi cl 04:22:20 <|3b|> if you want to learn CL, sbcl is a good choice, if you want to run on anything smaller than a mid/high-end arm, you might have more luck with a scheme (no idea which though) 04:22:39 I'm just keeping future goals in mind 04:22:51 thinkgs are moving mobile, I want to be a boss and lisp on my competition 04:23:00 maxter [~maxter@gaffeless.chaperon.volia.net] has joined #lisp 04:23:01 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu] has left #lisp 04:23:08 does pcl mention anything about quicklisp 04:23:13 did quicklisp exist when it was written 04:23:29 mhm: http://this-plt-life.tumblr.com/post/36425228283/when-somebody-asks-me-how-i-added-a-dsl-to-my-lisp 04:23:33 youlysses [~user@24-217-211-79.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined 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Truely I do not understand what dgraph is / refers to. Thanks for any help... 08:34:28 s/rading/reading/ 08:35:04 hello 08:35:28 hi hajovonta 08:36:03 hi pnpuff ! hacking again? 08:36:11 what is cl-dot good for? 08:38:06 i am looking for mihai 08:38:17 what is his nickname here? 08:39:14 hajovonta: I want to use graphviz so there are many alternatives: s-dot, cl-dot or cl-graphviz 08:39:36 bitonic [~user@ppp-195-186.27-151.libero.it] has joined #lisp 08:40:01 is that some plotting library? 08:40:21 stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #lisp 08:41:16 nilsi [~nilsi@101.95.4.234] has joined #lisp 08:43:12 hajovonta: is simply a graph visualization software, as reported on the web site. 08:44:36 -!- pnpuff [~BWV830@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 08:48:09 -!- chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 08:48:28 -!- MoALTz_ [~no@host86-137-70-230.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:49:19 chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has joined #lisp 08:51:44 MoALTz [~no@host86-137-70-230.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 08:51:48 Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 08:52:45 ffilozov [~user@46.Red-88-0-184.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 08:53:31 -!- persizzl [~twosizes@c-98-246-47-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: persizzl] 08:53:39 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@101.95.4.234] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:57:41 pavelpenev [~quassel@melontech.com] has joined #lisp 08:59:46 tcr [~tcr@95-90-245-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 09:01:46 Hi Xach. What were the changes between buildapp 1.4.7 and 1.4.8? 09:02:24 -!- Tanami [~carnage@9ch.in] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04:52 -!- ASau [~user@p4FF97D9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05:25 ASau` [~user@p4FF97D9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 09:05:54 -!- hydan [~user@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10:20 -!- ffilozov [~user@46.Red-88-0-184.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10:28 lyanchih [~lyanchih@202.39.219.19] has joined #lisp 09:11:52 -!- tiglog [~tiglog@61.149.227.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:14:19 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:18:14 -!- sdemarre [~serge@87.66.128.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:20:18 -!- maxter [~maxter@gaffeless.chaperon.volia.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:20:38 maxter [~maxter@sundownness.lullaby.volia.net] has joined #lisp 09:21:15 maxter_ [~maxter@gaffeless.chaperon.volia.net] has joined #lisp 09:25:10 -!- maxter [~maxter@sundownness.lullaby.volia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:25:55 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 09:34:38 -!- Codynyx [~cody@c-75-72-187-16.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:35:18 Codynyx [~cody@c-75-72-187-16.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 09:37:50 Xach: To build buildapp itself, always the "sbcl" found in $PATH is used. Internally the same machinery is used to dump the buildapp executable itself. Perhaps one could change its build process to use a bootstrapp buildapp "executable" (one which is LOADed); that one would take all the options that buildapp itself takes, and is invoked in the Makefile. 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I think I just made a mistake with my release-wrangler script. 12:28:00 segv- [~mb@95-91-241-74-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 12:29:34 pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has joined #lisp 12:30:10 foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has joined #lisp 12:31:57 minion: memo for pnpuff: graphs come in two varieties: directed graphs and undirected graph. dgraph probably refers to the former. 12:31:57 Remembered. 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I want a newline that doesn't go back to the left margin, but just back to the beginning of the block (?) 19:48:16 hmm... moving my pprint-logical-block forms makes things better. 19:50:36 -!- tcr [~tcr@95-90-245-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:52:48 -!- jerryzhou [~xiaotaota@58.245.253.218] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:55:13 shaungilchrist [~chatzilla@c-67-182-222-192.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:56:03 What is successive function call? A function that evalutes completely and returns value? Or can function call be not successive without evalution interrupting like with (break) or (error)? 19:56:43 -!- travisr [~travisrod@17.115.45.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:56:58 slyrus, maybe http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/6504 help 19:57:03 successive? i'd say it's the one next after some other call 19:57:05 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:58:11 ErrantEgo [~ErrantEgo@freenode/jester/errantego] has joined #lisp 19:58:21 -!- ErrantEgo [~ErrantEgo@freenode/jester/errantego] has left #lisp 19:59:49 cnl: but why are you asking? 19:59:54 So not successive function call is that never happened? 20:00:23 stassats`, to understand what HyperSpec meaned by it. 20:00:48 successive means "Following one another or following others" 20:01:39 it's not synonymous to "successful" 20:01:49 Uhh. 20:01:51 Got it. 20:01:53 Thanks. 20:06:14 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:15:02 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-237-24-51.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:16:38 -!- paddymahoney [~patrick@24.137.221.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:16:40 -!- sdemarre [~serge@37.128-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:17:04 -!- boogie [~boogie@wsip-98-172-168-236.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18:13 -!- stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:19:02 -!- chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:20:43 tcr [~tcr@95-90-245-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 20:25:00 -!- tcr [~tcr@95-90-245-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:25:12 sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-164-232.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:25:57 -!- Corvidium [~cosman246@c-24-143-118-11.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:33:22 -!- Codynyx [~cody@c-75-72-187-16.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:33:27 Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-139-108.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 20:34:22 -!- Denommus [~user@unaffiliated/denommus] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:39:35 -!- JPeterson [~JPeterson@s213-103-210-215.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:39:36 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.159.100] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40:07 Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 20:47:30 jeti [~user@p548E9B1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 20:51:17 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@216.113.168.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:51:52 -!- youlysses [~user@24-217-211-79.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:52:14 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-121-164.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:53:09 travisr [~travisrod@17.115.45.188] has joined #lisp 20:53:25 ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:55:15 -!- normanrichards [~normanric@rrcs-108-178-120-144.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: normanrichards] 20:55:37 normanrichards [~normanric@rrcs-108-178-120-144.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #lisp 20:55:53 Aramur [~arare@47.Red-83-42-44.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 20:57:28 -!- travisr [~travisrod@17.115.45.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:00:35 travisr [~travisrod@17.115.45.188] has joined #lisp 21:05:33 -!- ASau [~user@p4FF96E42.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:05:42 boogie [~boogie@wsip-98-172-168-236.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 21:06:53 -!- pavelpenev [~quassel@130-204-68-81.2074856244.ddns.cablebg.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09:07 jerryzhou [~xiaotaota@58.245.253.218] has joined #lisp 21:12:14 -!- ck`` [~ck@dslb-094-219-235-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:13:34 -!- kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:14:58 mrSpec [~Spec@LDijon-156-65-17-9.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 21:14:59 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@LDijon-156-65-17-9.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Changing host] 21:14:59 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 21:16:39 Codynyx [~cody@c-75-72-187-16.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:18:49 S_J [S_J@m90-129-71-221.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 21:19:12 -!- jerryzhou [~xiaotaota@58.245.253.218] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:19:19 calp [~cal@87-194-86-152.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 21:21:19 tcr [~tcr@95-90-245-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 21:21:19 Is it possible to define syntax like |variable| so that is a function call ? 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I'm for example when I try to go the source code of #'sb-c::%check-fast-method-fun-name I get a blank buffer. I imagine is because those are loaded as faslo or image to bootstrap slime? 22:35:56 -!- ampersand27017 [~ampersand@static-72-87-239-154.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: ampersand27017] 22:38:14 PuercoPop: you have to download the sources and point the runtime to the source directory 22:38:40 -!- Corvidium [~cosman246@D-69-91-156-168.dhcp4.washington.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:42:22 -!- calp [~cal@87-194-86-152.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:42:27 PuercoPop: I have this in my .sbclrc: (sb-ext:set-sbcl-source-location #p"~/lisp/src/sbcl/") 22:42:43 Thanks! 22:43:05 Similar to emacs c-source code 22:43:32 baggers [~yaaic@cpc5-cbly5-2-0-cust10.6-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 22:44:13 -!- JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-76-180-168-166.buffalo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:46:53 -!- namtsui [~user@76.21.121.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:13 namtsui [~user@c-76-21-121-73.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:47:18 -!- namtsui [~user@c-76-21-121-73.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:39 namtsui [~user@c-76-21-121-73.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:52:28 tcr [~tcr@95-90-245-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 22:56:58 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:10 -!- tcr [~tcr@95-90-245-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:57:37 jerryzhou [~xiaotaota@58.245.253.218] has joined #lisp 22:59:53 -!- DrCode [~DrCode@gateway/tor-sasl/drcode] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:08 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: ZzZ] 23:02:00 drmeiste_ [~drmeister@pool-71-185-168-200.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 23:04:11 DrCode [~DrCode@gateway/tor-sasl/drcode] has joined #lisp 23:05:09 -!- Aramur [~arare@47.Red-83-42-44.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Aramur] 23:08:05 JPeterson [~JPeterson@s213-103-210-215.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 23:08:05 -!- sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:08:33 -!- jerryzhou [~xiaotaota@58.245.253.218] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:09:36 zacts [~zacts@unaffiliated/zacts] has joined #lisp 23:12:40 -!- normanrichards [~normanric@rrcs-108-178-120-144.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: normanrichards] 23:13:17 -!- gabot [~eli@racket/bot/gabot] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:13:46 -!- agr [~agr@189.38.143.46] has quit [Quit: agr] 23:13:54 -!- segv- [~mb@95-91-241-74-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:15:28 -!- eli [~eli@racket/eli] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:15:57 jaccarmac [~jaccarmac@c-67-182-91-1.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:16:32 Hello! 23:18:00 walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:18:29 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:18:37 agr [~agr@189.38.143.46] has joined #lisp 23:23:03 -!- weie_ [~eie@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:23:24 tcr [~tcr@95-90-245-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 23:23:29 -!- agr [~agr@189.38.143.46] has quit [Client Quit] 23:23:39 weie [~eie@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has joined #lisp 23:24:11 -!- doomlord [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24:37 MrMc [~user@95-91-243-213-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 23:26:17 -!- arubin [~arubin@99-114-192-172.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:26:42 normanrichards [~normanric@70.114.215.220] has joined #lisp 23:27:26 -!- tcr [~tcr@95-90-245-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:27:45 -!- travisr [~travisrod@17.115.45.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:27:56 doomlord [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 23:28:37 -!- walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29:04 -!- doomlord [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:29:48 walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:31:19 -!- jaccarmac [~jaccarmac@c-67-182-91-1.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jaccarmac] 23:32:08 sohail [~sohail@108.161.116.248] has joined #lisp 23:32:08 -!- sohail [~sohail@108.161.116.248] has quit [Changing host] 23:32:08 sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has joined #lisp 23:33:08 agr [~agr@189.38.143.46] has joined #lisp 23:33:13 -!- weie [~eie@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33:49 weie [~eie@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has joined #lisp 23:40:03 -!- smazga [~acrid@64.55.45.194] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.3.4] 23:43:58 -!- normanrichards [~normanric@70.114.215.220] has quit [Quit: normanrichards] 23:45:18 -!- nug700 [~nug700@174-26-153-201.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 23:45:59 how do i extend clos so that the following is possible (defclass my-class () ((date 23:46:11 -!- sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:47:00 :date-format "dd.mm.yy"))) 23:47:16 -!- arare [~Aramur@153.68.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Quit: arare] 23:47:24 -!- jaimef [jaimef@dns.mauthesis.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:47:35 you just want to associate some information with a slot? lookup slot infos in the MOP 23:47:48 kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has joined #lisp 23:48:06 nug700 [~nug700@174-26-153-201.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 23:50:24 Corvidium [~cosman246@D-69-91-156-168.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #lisp 23:50:58 @Bike thanks 23:51:28 -!- maxter [~maxter@gaffeless.chaperon.volia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:53:52 -!- walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:54:02 -!- quazimodo [~quazimodo@c27-253-100-110.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:54:20 tcr [~tcr@95-90-245-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 23:55:07 jaimef [jaimef@dns.mauthesis.com] has joined #lisp 23:55:14 -!- Corvidium [~cosman246@D-69-91-156-168.dhcp4.washington.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:56:55 -!- joe9 [~user@ip70-179-153-227.fv.ks.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:58:17 -!- JPeterson [~JPeterson@s213-103-210-215.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58:46 -!- tcr [~tcr@95-90-245-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:59:33 wbooze__ [~oleo@xdsl-84-44-210-158.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp