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If you want to cons a list, it's easy, with m-v-list. Unconsing a list is harder. 01:11:32 MrWoohoo [~MrWoohoo@pool-108-38-175-139.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 01:11:54 well decode-univeral-time just returns multiple values 01:12:38 so you can't just (cad*r) for a specific value 01:12:44 no. you can use nth-value. 01:12:47 which i find odd 01:13:08 if you just give the value directly to another function it is just the seconds 01:16:01 -!- tankrim [~user@pdpc/supporter/active/tankrim] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:23:03 tiglog [~topeak@114.243.59.229] has joined #lisp 01:29:38 miql [~miql@ip68-98-19-126.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #lisp 01:33:56 -!- pavelpenev [~quassel@85.130.70.65] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36:05 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:36:19 -!- Hydan [~hydan@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36:44 knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 01:49:13 -!- ikki [~ikki@187.208.138.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:49:56 tfan [~tarik@bas2-montreal29-1177924872.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 01:51:07 lyanchih [~lyanchih@114-34-99-241.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 01:55:34 -!- chameco [~samuel@cpe-67-241-240-138.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:55:51 -!- AlbireoX`Laptop [~AlbireoX@99-136-83-34.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:58:31 -!- AeroNotix [~xeno@abnz44.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:06:48 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-185-168-200.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08:17 -!- ahoops [~ahoops__@121.96.14.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:10:18 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.133.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:11:57 -!- ivan\ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 02:12:55 ivan\ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined #lisp 02:14:06 ahoops [~ahoops__@121.96.14.223] has joined #lisp 02:21:15 rationalrevolt [~rationalr@c-24-63-159-47.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 02:22:31 Quadrescence [180405b0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.4.5.176] has joined #lisp 02:23:46 -!- rationalrevolt [~rationalr@c-24-63-159-47.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has left #lisp 02:24:28 jlongster [~user@pool-96-238-181-209.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 02:26:18 -!- pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:27:42 kimochiwarui [~user@unaffiliated/dijkstragroupie] has joined #lisp 02:28:05 cdbitesky [~cdbitesky@ip68-3-139-28.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #lisp 02:32:00 poppingtonic [~poppingto@212.49.88.104] has joined #lisp 02:39:37 -!- urandom__ [~user@p548A08DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:45:00 -!- Corvidium [~cosman246@c-24-143-118-11.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:50:58 -!- jlongster [~user@pool-96-238-181-209.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:51:33 Corvidium [~cosman246@c-24-143-118-11.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #lisp 02:53:34 Jubb [~Jubb@pool-108-28-62-61.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 02:58:12 -!- LiamH [~none@pool-173-73-123-20.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:00:59 -!- ahoops [~ahoops__@121.96.14.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:02:25 -!- benny [~user@maidenhead3.tunnelr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:04:55 benny [~user@maidenhead3.tunnelr.com] has joined #lisp 03:05:46 -!- ejbs [~user@h-208-29.a176.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:08:37 ahoops [~ahoops__@121.96.14.223] has joined #lisp 03:08:49 rszeno [~rszeno@79.118.12.201] has joined #lisp 03:09:40 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 03:13:32 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@171.217.22.188] has left #lisp 03:13:45 -!- bitonic [~user@dyn1240-203.vpn.ic.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:14:15 bitonic [~user@dyn1240-203.vpn.ic.ac.uk] has joined #lisp 03:15:14 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-185-168-200.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 03:20:54 -!- bitonic [~user@dyn1240-203.vpn.ic.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:21:17 -!- miql [~miql@ip68-98-19-126.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:31:46 holycow [~holycow@host-216-251-135-194.bchsia.skywaywest.net] has joined #lisp 03:31:48 hi guys 03:31:54 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:32:15 i am looking at the paredit cheat sheet here: https://github.com/joelittlejohn/paredit-cheatsheet 03:32:32 knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 03:32:40 waht do the vertical red lines mean in the pdf? i am assuming that is syntax for what the shortcut for the command ought to be? 03:32:54 the red lines are where point is, iirc 03:33:59 aha 03:35:59 okay, badass 03:36:01 thank you 03:37:06 -!- rszeno [~rszeno@79.118.12.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:37:50 francis_wolke [d871a887@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.113.168.135] has joined #lisp 03:38:44 ah i see. just a few initial tips on how to close parens and other matched enclosing characters is a huge help. thanks Bike 03:38:52 How do you get the source of a common lisp function at the REPL? In clojure I can do (source myfunction). I've googled around and have not been able to turn of the CL equivilent 03:39:10 can't. 03:39:23 in slime you can M-. to get a function's definition. 03:39:40 brianw [~textual@cpe-70-113-19-93.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 03:39:47 Bike: Thanks. 03:51:31 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.11.104] has joined #lisp 03:51:31 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.11.104] has quit [Changing host] 03:51:31 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 04:01:30 -!- francis_wolke [d871a887@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.113.168.135] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 04:01:31 rszeno [~rszeno@79.118.12.201] has joined #lisp 04:20:54 -!- ISF [~ivan@187.106.36.28] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:26:21 -!- brianw [~textual@cpe-70-113-19-93.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:26:45 brianw [~textual@cpe-70-113-19-93.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 04:26:51 -!- kimochiwarui [~user@unaffiliated/dijkstragroupie] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 04:32:37 Z_Mass [~zmassia@bas1-cornwall24-845466952.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 04:38:19 redSnow [~Thunderbi@58.249.118.176] has joined #lisp 04:38:28 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:45:35 -!- nug700 [~nug700@209-181-103-52.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:48:44 Odyessus [~odyessus@chello080109062130.15.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #lisp 04:52:54 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:52:58 Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has joined #lisp 04:52:59 attila_lendvai1 [~attila_le@92.46.11.104] has joined #lisp 04:52:59 -!- attila_lendvai1 is now known as attila_lendvai 04:52:59 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.11.104] has quit [Changing host] 04:52:59 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 05:01:11 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 05:01:25 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 05:03:00 zRecursive [~czsq888@171.217.22.188] has joined #lisp 05:04:01 fandikurnia01 [~fandikurn@118.96.56.123] has joined #lisp 05:04:13 -!- fandikurnia01 [~fandikurn@118.96.56.123] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:09:05 -!- Odyessus [~odyessus@chello080109062130.15.14.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 05:09:18 -!- banannagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:10:18 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@171.217.22.188] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:10:35 zRecursive [~czsq888@171.217.22.188] has joined #lisp 05:11:28 is there a way to select a bunch of lisp code and run a function in emacs that cleans up the code indentation? 05:18:49 -!- yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:19:12 -!- brianw [~textual@cpe-70-113-19-93.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I get (using CLISP): No source information available for: (SYSTEM::DEFUN/DEFMACRO). I'm curious currently to see how label and lambda are defined in the lisp implementation I'm using... thanks for any help. 06:47:46 -!- wgslayer [~wg@dslb-084-058-026-218.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: wgslayer] 06:49:22 rszeno [~rszeno@79.114.79.92] has joined #lisp 06:52:02 ops, label is not defined... (at least in COMMON-LISP-USER package)...I myself have defined that function... 06:52:48 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 06:53:10 mrSpec [~Spec@87-207-172-93.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #lisp 06:53:10 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@87-207-172-93.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Changing host] 06:53:10 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 07:00:10 reading http://www.cliki.net/slime%20features I've found only two examples (for SBCL and for CMUCL). How can I do to specify the location of CLISP's sources? 07:00:15 -!- knob5312 [~knob@64.237.235.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:00:24 jewel [~jewel@105-236-245-37.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 07:00:43 knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 07:10:25 pnpuff: you'd get more help if you'd use clozure cl or sbcl. 07:12:19 H4ns: I tink I'll use only find, anyway thanks. 07:12:36 francis_wolke [d871a887@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.113.168.135] has joined #lisp 07:12:53 -!- tfan [~tarik@bas2-montreal29-1177924872.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:13:16 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:14:24 easye` [~user@213.33.70.157] has joined #lisp 07:15:37 eak [~unknown@sahnehaschee.unix-ag.uni-kl.de] has joined #lisp 07:15:39 rabite_ [~rabite@4chan.fm] has joined #lisp 07:15:48 asedeno_ [~asedeno@66.102.14.16] has joined #lisp 07:16:09 -!- mal___ [mal@ks24170.kimsufi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:09 -!- eak_ [~unknown@sahnehaschee.unix-ag.uni-kl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:09 -!- asedeno [~asedeno@66.102.14.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:09 -!- rabite [~rabite@4chan.fm] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:10 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:10 -!- macrobat [~fuzzyglee@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:10 -!- cmm- [~cmm@bzq-79-177-123-220.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:10 -!- eichelbart [~eichelbar@91-64-170-148-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:10 -!- kbtr [~kbtr@li198-73.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:10 -!- trigen [~MSX@cppse.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:19 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@114-34-99-241.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: lyanchih] 07:16:20 cmm [~cmm@bzq-79-177-123-220.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #lisp 07:16:21 kbtr [~kbtr@li198-73.members.linode.com] has joined #lisp 07:16:21 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #lisp 07:16:22 eichelbart [~eichelbar@91-64-170-148-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 07:16:38 -!- pnpuff is now known as pnpu`ff 07:16:43 -!- easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:43 -!- pr_ [~pr@li544-108.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:16:50 pr [~pr@li544-108.members.linode.com] has joined #lisp 07:16:55 -!- pr [~pr@li544-108.members.linode.com] has quit [Changing host] 07:16:55 pr [~pr@unaffiliated/pr] has joined #lisp 07:16:56 macrobat [~fuzzyglee@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 07:17:39 -!- pnpu`ff is now known as pnpuff 07:17:43 trigen [~MSX@cppse.nl] has joined #lisp 07:18:20 sdemarre [~serge@91.180.84.159] has joined #lisp 07:18:53 Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 07:19:00 hoyang [~hoyang@60.168.93.55] has joined #lisp 07:19:08 -!- pnpuff [~ff@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:19:16 nilsi [~nilsi@2.68.114.6.mobile.tre.se] has joined #lisp 07:20:46 -!- francis_wolke [d871a887@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.113.168.135] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 07:22:54 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:23:04 mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.96.3] has joined #lisp 07:23:51 ehu [~Erik@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 07:26:10 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-ho1.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 07:27:12 morphling [~stefan@gssn-5f75709e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 07:29:48 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-168-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 07:30:47 -!- holycow [~holycow@host-216-251-135-194.bchsia.skywaywest.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:31:46 -!- hoyang [~hoyang@60.168.93.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:38:51 -!- edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-149-172-63-75.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: argh...] 07:39:14 mal___ [mal@ks24170.kimsufi.com] has joined #lisp 07:40:47 DrCode [~DrCode@gateway/tor-sasl/drcode] has joined #lisp 07:44:10 hoyang [~hoyang@223.240.104.84] has joined #lisp 07:46:41 lyanchih [~lyanchih@114-34-99-241.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 07:47:39 -!- knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:48:15 knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 07:48:34 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@171.217.22.188] has left #lisp 07:48:35 statl [~statl@dslb-094-218-229-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 07:49:29 pnpuff [~ff@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 07:52:16 -!- guiambros [~guiambros@z65-50-88-217.ips.direcpath.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:52:35 I get an output of 208 lines from: sed -n '/LAMBDA/' | find /usr/local/src/lisp/clisp-2.49/ -type f -name \*.lisp , so it's few useful :-( . Is there some smarter thing to do? 07:54:44 xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.133.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #lisp 07:55:07 -!- Watcher7 is now known as Watcher7|off 07:59:14 hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@46.233.240.1] has joined #lisp 07:59:16 -!- hoyang [~hoyang@223.240.104.84] has quit [Quit: ] 07:59:35 hoyang [~hoyang@223.240.104.84] has joined #lisp 08:00:48 -!- hoyang [~hoyang@223.240.104.84] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:00:53 so my question is: In whitch of the 208 files I get is defined lambda? 08:01:04 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #lisp 08:01:17 hoyang [~hoyang@223.240.104.84] has joined #lisp 08:01:22 *which 08:01:45 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has left #lisp 08:02:31 -!- hoyang [~hoyang@223.240.104.84] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:03:01 hoyang [~hoyang@223.240.104.84] has joined #lisp 08:04:52 pnpuff i have no idea what you are looking for but try find /usr/local/src/lisp/ -name '*.lisp' -exec grep -Hn '^(defun lambda' {} \; 08:06:56 benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d8548d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 08:08:42 rszeno: from your command I get: http://pastebin.com/jtC2S1t5 . I'm looking for the definition of lambda... 08:08:49 -!- benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d8548d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:09:20 ...since I can not use M-. in Slime. 08:10:22 lambda like in (lambda (x) ... ? 08:10:31 yep 08:11:10 may i ask what do you try to do when you find it? 08:12:14 I want only to understand how is defined the lambda function used to define my apply function... 08:12:21 pnpuff: use grep -R '*(lambda ' 08:13:03 hitechologys, pnpuff is looking for lambda definition 08:13:05 grep -R '*(lambda ' .; (fix) 08:13:45 rszeno: isn't '*(lambda ' matches lambda expression? 08:14:11 yes it is but where is used 08:15:11 then use -n 08:15:24 grep -nR '*(lambda ' . 08:15:56 I'm not completely sure about pattern but I hope it'll work 08:16:00 find do what -R grep do anyway 08:16:43 rszeno: sure, but I prefer grep when I don't need to run scripts on files 08:18:04 any way to solve a problem is good but i gues in pnpuff case he is looking for eval, :) 08:18:19 kimochiwarui [~user@unaffiliated/dijkstragroupie] has joined #lisp 08:18:20 not for lambda 08:18:55 ... but I don't think that lambda's definition starts with (lambda...) ... 08:21:24 pnpuff lambda is used internaly in eval so looking for a definition doesn't make to much sense because is very low level 08:21:51 rszeno: in my apply function I've to test if (eq (car fn) LAMBDA) where fn is an S-function I think 08:22:06 *S-expression 08:22:12 Odyessus [~odyessus@chello080109062130.15.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #lisp 08:23:03 your code is a lisp interpreter? 08:27:26 pnpuff, src/init.lisp, not what you are looking for probably but a starting point to search 08:29:11 yes, anyway eq test for equality among atoms, anyway even the symbol that names a function is an atom so I'm confused... 08:31:08 i sugest to use a prefix for names 08:31:55 you can avoid this way to class a symbol pnpuff-lambda with lambda for example 08:32:35 and you can use different packages 08:32:43 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-144-170.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:34:39 pnpuff, in order to write a self interpretor you need to understand how a interpreter work and looking in clisp internals is confusing in my opinion 08:34:52 ehu` [~ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 08:34:56 do you suggest use (eq (car fn) .lambda) instead of (eq (car fn) lambda) ? ok. pnpuff-lambda seems a bad naming ... :) 08:35:33 yes dot is good, is short :) 08:36:32 i don't know if there is something like sicp for lisp but you can read sicp to understand evaluation 08:37:26 will be still a little confusing because differences between scheme and lisp but less then clisp sources anyway 08:41:46 rszeno: I don't know still well but I think that a metacircular evalutator is the same in scheme as in Common Lisp. 08:42:24 depend how is writen 08:42:52 sure... 08:42:57 if it use a dispatcher for types could be same code but if is hardcoded not 08:43:48 but of course is same idea, same mechanism 08:44:53 Kenjin [~kenjin@2.80.250.9] has joined #lisp 08:49:00 -!- Odyessus [~odyessus@chello080109062130.15.14.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 09:01:44 -!- GuilOooo [~GuilOooo@AMontpellier-651-1-298-2.w92-143.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:04:03 GuilOooo [~GuilOooo@AMontpellier-651-1-298-2.w92-143.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 09:06:01 -!- Quadrescence [180405b0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.4.5.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:07:21 astertronistic [~astertron@ip70-181-235-122.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 09:09:57 -!- rszeno [~rszeno@79.114.79.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:14:37 pavelpenev [~quassel@85.130.70.65] has joined #lisp 09:18:43 benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d8548d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 09:23:33 rszeno [~rszeno@79.114.93.192] has joined #lisp 09:29:41 pnpuff, http://www.civilized.com/getlisp.html i guess is probably better to read this instead of sicp 09:30:53 -!- benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d8548d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:32:07 -!- Posterdati [~antani@host210-219-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:33:48 benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d8548d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 09:35:00 rszeno: thanks... currently I'm already reading a manual, anyway later I'll read even the book you've suggested to me. Surely I prefer read Corrado Böhm's articles instead of SICP :) 09:35:18 Posterdati [~antani@host210-219-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 09:36:02 -!- nightfly [~sage@sagenite.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:36:50 pnpuff is not a manual, it explain how it implement lisp in c, a simple one, are a lot of details 09:37:29 nha [~prefect@koln-5d81bf00.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 09:38:24 but of course, is better to follow your plan of learning 09:40:14 francis_wolke [d871a887@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.113.168.135] has joined #lisp 09:40:48 -!- francis_wolke [d871a887@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.113.168.135] has quit [Client Quit] 09:40:54 nightfly [~sage@sagenite.net] has joined #lisp 09:44:37 mathrick_ [~mathrick@85.218.134.11] has joined #lisp 09:44:52 oudeis [~oudeis@bzq-79-182-161-98.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #lisp 09:46:25 Davidbrcz [~david@AToulouse-554-1-30-171.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 09:47:55 -!- mathrick [~mathrick@94.144.63.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:54:23 -!- Posterdati [~antani@host210-219-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:54:41 Posterdati [~antani@host210-219-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 09:57:14 ch077179 [~ch077179@unaffiliated/ch077179] has joined #lisp 10:15:43 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.84.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:17:42 bitonic [~user@97e10035.skybroadband.com] has joined #lisp 10:28:21 -!- bitonic [~user@97e10035.skybroadband.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:28:58 AeroNotix [~xeno@abnz44.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 10:31:48 tankrim [~user@pdpc/supporter/active/tankrim] has joined #lisp 10:33:30 -!- oudeis [~oudeis@bzq-79-182-161-98.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:33:36 -!- nightfly [~sage@sagenite.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:37:50 -!- hoyang [~hoyang@223.240.104.84] has quit [Quit: ] 10:40:23 -!- Kabaka [~Kabaka@botters/kabaka] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:42:02 -!- Davidbrcz [~david@AToulouse-554-1-30-171.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:43:44 Kabaka [~Kabaka@botters/kabaka] has joined #lisp 10:46:23 -!- sirdancealo3 [~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:47:18 sirdancealot [~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #lisp 10:47:25 -!- Kenjin [~kenjin@2.80.250.9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:51:25 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-ho1.unidsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:52:06 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-197-84.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 10:52:26 zRecursive [~czsq888@222.209.12.51] has joined #lisp 10:52:42 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-ho1.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 10:53:32 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-197-84.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 10:57:12 here the warnings I get when I try to compile my-apply function: http://paste.lisp.org/display/137622 and the result of a tryial:my-apply '(lambda (X Y) (CONS X Y)) '(Y . B) NIL). Thanks for any useful suggestion! 10:57:49 ... (my-apply '(lambda (X Y) (CONS X Y)) '(Y . B) NIL) 10:58:10 knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 10:58:17 -!- knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:58:53 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:59:22 knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 11:02:18 bitonic [~user@97e10035.skybroadband.com] has joined #lisp 11:04:43 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:07:00 pnpuff: check your defpackage form. 11:07:38 knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 11:13:06 foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has joined #lisp 11:16:05 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@222.209.12.51] has left #lisp 11:16:49 knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 11:16:55 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:17:01 zRecursive [~czsq888@222.209.12.51] has joined #lisp 11:30:08 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 11:30:42 elon [~elon@D97B1021.cm-3-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #lisp 11:32:19 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@78-0-246-34.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:33:26 jackdaniel [~jack@c65-85.icpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 11:33:53 -!- nha [~prefect@koln-5d81bf00.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:35:00 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@adsl-108-80-229-231.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:36:22 -!- Posterdati [~antani@host210-219-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36:42 Posterdati [~antani@host210-219-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 11:37:06 kennyd [~kennyd@93-136-0-186.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 11:37:24 -!- benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d8548d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz] 11:45:01 chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has joined #lisp 11:46:13 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-197-84.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 11:46:50 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@222.209.12.51] has left #lisp 11:51:52 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:56:22 http://pastebin.com/NZY0qeKE 11:56:26 Wikipedia on stack overflow: "Languages like Scheme, which implement tail-call optimization, allow infinite recursion of a specific sort—tail recursion—to occur without stack overflow." 11:56:26 Why, then, is this happening? I'm not exactly sure what a "stack" or "call stack" is, and Wikipedia is a bit complex, so could anybody help me on this? 11:57:36 ackermann doesn't always tail call 11:57:57 Kenjin [~kenjin@2.80.250.9] has joined #lisp 11:58:00 also, you want #scheme, this channel is for common lisp. and your code is difficult to read. 11:58:49 Ok. Thanks. It's not my code, actually. It's from SICP(MIT). I'll try my luck there 11:59:06 elon: is it pasted from a pdf? it shows 12:00:13 Bike: Oh, sorry. I did, but that's not correct. It messes up the code itself 12:01:09 http://pastebin.com/ERKzQHAh 12:01:13 That's the correct onde 12:01:15 one* 12:02:21 well, i can explain this much before you hit up #scheme. you can think of a tail call as a goto, like, if you have (A x (- x y 1)) that's setting x to x and y to (- x y 1) and jumping back to the top of the function. 12:02:52 elon: don't use pastebin, use http://paste.lisp.org 12:03:01 Still no indentation on pastebin. 12:03:02 -!- Kenjin [~kenjin@2.80.250.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:03:25 but, since one of the A calls' result is needed by another A call, in (A (- x 1) (A x (- x y 1))), the goto has to return, so, instead of a goto it's a full call, which needs stack space (to store the variables for the return, etc) 12:03:29 elon: find the definition of "tail call", or "tail recursion". 12:04:20 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@114-34-99-241.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: lyanchih] 12:05:39 lyanchih [~lyanchih@114-34-99-241.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 12:07:52 Bike, pjb: Thanks. I'm not sure I understand all of it, but combined with my recently acquired knowledge of iterative and recursive procedures, I think I might sorta maybe understand it a bit. 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13:20:52 my-apply, let's say 13:23:18 Bike: here an example of definitions: http://paste.lisp.org/display/137622#3 13:23:59 ok well, why would (eq fn car) work, there is no variable car 13:24:28 etc 13:25:27 Bike: ok, how can I define lambda? 13:25:41 what? just quote 13:25:46 (eq fn 'car) 13:25:46 -!- redSnow [~Thunderbi@58.249.118.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:32:09 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@114-34-99-241.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: lyanchih] 13:37:28 lukas [~lukas@194.228.13.78] has joined #lisp 13:38:31 Well, you could define lambda to implement scheme instead of CL 13:40:30 oudeis_ [~oudeis@95.35.56.28] has joined #lisp 13:40:55 pjb: currently I'm looking even at AIM-8... 13:42:40 zacharias [~zacharias@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 13:42:56 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-185-168-200.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43:46 -!- oudeis [~oudeis@95.35.56.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:45:09 eldariof [~CLD@pppoe-202-113-dyn-sr.volgaline.ru] has joined #lisp 13:48:33 ...but honestly I don't understand what means "predefined symbols" (DEFINE, LAMBDA, LABEL, COND, COMBINE, FIRST, REST, NULL, ATOM, EQ, NIL, T, and QUOTE). Where are defined? 13:49:42 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-ho1.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:50:08 Kenjin [~kenjin@bl19-250-9.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lisp 13:50:55 lyanchih [~lyanchih@114-34-99-241.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 13:51:02 combine? 13:51:34 pnpuff, what is combine? 13:52:24 __class__ [~class@99-105-56-217.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 13:52:49 pnpuff: defined as part of the lisp implementation, of course. 13:53:59 rszeno: http://www.informatimago.com/develop/lisp/com/informatimago/small-cl-pgms/aim-8/aim-8.html 13:56:51 Bike: ok, maybe are not recursive function of symbolic expressions and are (S-functions? ) defined as part of the lisp implementation... but where are defined? Where can I look for the sources? 13:57:48 sure, they're part of %eval in http://www.informatimago.com/develop/lisp/com/informatimago/small-cl-pgms/aim-8/aim-8.lisp 13:58:18 Sagane [~Sagane@177.100-226-89.dsl.completel.net] has joined #lisp 13:58:41 rszeno: combine appears to be cons. 13:59:46 dioxriane [~ff@host76-250-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 13:59:52 brianw [~textual@cpe-70-113-19-93.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 14:00:01 -!- ahoops [~ahoops__@121.96.14.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:00:04 yes, seems like cons to me too 14:00:10 -!- dioxriane is now known as Guest45258 14:00:46 -!- oudeis_ [~oudeis@95.35.56.28] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:02:38 -!- pnpuff [~ff@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:04:57 -!- tali713 [~tali713@2001:0:53aa:64c:209e:5ccd:b3ee:137e] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:05:28 -!- Guest45258 [~ff@host76-250-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:05:56 tali713 [~tali713@2001:0:53aa:64c:209e:5ccd:b3ee:137e] has joined #lisp 14:07:05 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07:54 -!- BitPuffin [~quassel@m37-198-231-249.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:12 ahoops [~ahoops__@121.96.14.223] has joined #lisp 14:10:20 jcb_ [~jcb@r190-135-142-60.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #lisp 14:10:25 BitPuffin [~quassel@m90-144-107-83.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 14:10:26 Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 14:11:03 pnpuff [~LaGrange@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 14:13:59 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-236-245-37.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:14:01 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-185-168-200.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 14:16:22 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19:54 -!- arrdem [~arrdem@dhcp-53-132.ece.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:20:23 -!- tfan [~tarik@bas2-montreal29-1177924872.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:20:24 PuercoPop [~user@pool-96-250-219-190.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 14:20:50 -!- sigjuice [~sigjuice@184.106.98.73] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:54 Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 14:21:41 -!- mathrick_ is now known as mathrick 14:24:10 stardiviner [~quassel@122.236.248.77] has joined #lisp 14:25:06 -!- BitPuffin [~quassel@m90-144-107-83.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:26:05 BitPuffin [~quassel@m37-3-254-107.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 14:26:50 -!- stardiviner [~quassel@122.236.248.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27:03 arrdem [~arrdem@dhcp-53-132.ece.utexas.edu] has joined #lisp 14:30:11 -!- benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d8548d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 14:30:29 elh [~elawrence@ool-ad025ac3.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 14:30:40 -!- BitPuffin [~quassel@m37-3-254-107.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:32:36 stardiviner [~quassel@122.236.248.77] has joined #lisp 14:34:13 -!- jcb_ [~jcb@r190-135-142-60.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:34:22 -!- chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 14:36:57 elon [~elon@D97B1021.cm-3-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #lisp 14:37:04 xan__ [~xan@80.174.78.154.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #lisp 14:37:53 adelgado [~TomSawyer@c-66-229-185-165.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 14:38:03 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.133.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:38:29 fantazo [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has joined #lisp 14:40:07 felideon [~felideon@199.241.28.84] has joined #lisp 14:40:29 (melisp::my-apply '(lambda (X Y) (CONS X Y)) '(Y B) 'NIL) => (Y . B) seems ok! wow... 14:43:52 ehu` [ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 14:44:26 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-1-78.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 14:47:01 redSnow [~Thunderbi@58.249.118.176] has joined #lisp 14:50:19 -!- hlavaty`` [~user@friedrichstrasse.knowledgetools.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:52:49 -!- JPeterson [~JPeterson@s213-103-210-215.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:59:57 BitPuffin [~quassel@m5-240-185-82.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 15:00:33 -!- adelgado [~TomSawyer@c-66-229-185-165.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:00:51 Joreji [~thomas@134.61.175.190] has joined #lisp 15:01:47 -!- ahoops [~ahoops__@121.96.14.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:02:15 ahoops [~ahoops__@121.96.14.223] has joined #lisp 15:02:35 -!- ryankarason is now known as robit 15:03:18 -!- rszeno [~rszeno@79.114.98.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:04:27 ryankarason [~rak@stallman.cse.ohio-state.edu] has joined #lisp 15:07:52 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:08:20 knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 15:08:57 -!- ryankarason [~rak@stallman.cse.ohio-state.edu] has left #lisp 15:09:39 knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 15:10:00 -!- robit is now known as rk[tmp] 15:13:18 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:14:42 -!- eldariof [~CLD@pppoe-202-113-dyn-sr.volgaline.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:16:28 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:17:38 I get: (melisp::my-equal (melisp::my-eval '(CONS X Y) '((X . A)(Y . B))) (melisp::my-apply 'CONS '(A B) '((X . A)(Y . 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gentle 20:00:15 Vutral: please see gentle: "Common Lisp: A Gentle Introduction to Symbolic Computation" is a smoother introduction to lisp programming. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/LispBook/ 20:02:25 iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has joined #lisp 20:02:50 well i had seibels book 20:03:02 minion: tell otwieracz about otwieracz 20:03:03 Sorry, I couldn't find anything in the database for ``otwieracz''. 20:03:08 wasnt exactly what i looking for 20:04:15 -!- jlongste` [~user@pool-96-238-181-209.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:05:49 u mean like something what opens something 20:05:52 sD 20:06:45 hiato [~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za] has joined #lisp 20:07:00 I rightly get (my-apply '(lambda (x y) (cons (eq x x) y)) '((a . 1) b) 'nil) => (T . B), while (my-apply '(lambda (x y) (cons (car x) y)) '((a . 1) b) 'nil) => ((A . 1) . B) instead of (A . B) :-( 20:07:58 do you consider ansi common lisp by paul graham as good introduction? 20:09:48 jackdaniel: no 20:09:48 -!- kimochiwarui [~user@unaffiliated/dijkstragroupie] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:19 kimochiwarui [~user@unaffiliated/dijkstragroupie] has joined #lisp 20:11:12 p_l: why so? 20:13:38 ...ok, I get wrongly (NIL . B) and not (1 . B) from (my-apply '(lambda (x y) (cons (cdr x) y)) '((a . 1) b) 'nil)... maybe the solution is a triviality 20:14:33 jackdaniel: it's a bit off from the idiomatic style, and has its own peculiarities. It's not bad per se, but I think PCL, Land of Lisp and Gentle Introduction are much better for a newcomer 20:15:03 it was different back when there was only it, of course, but now we have a bit bigger selection :) 20:16:24 (apply '(lambda (x y) (cons (eq x x) y)) '((a . 1) b)) --> (t . b) ? 20:16:41 Vutral: what you're looking for? If you know Seibel's book well maybe you're able to find a book useful for you! :) 20:16:45 Sagane [~Sagane@177.100-226-89.dsl.completel.net] has joined #lisp 20:17:00 EQ can return any true value, It could also be (42 . b) or (bet-cha . b) 20:18:01 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.113.129] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:18:31 pjb: (my-apply '(lambda (x y) (cons (eq x z) y)) '((a . 1) b) 'nil) => Evaluation aborted on NIL. 20:18:42 agumonkey [~agu@194.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 20:19:47 pnpuff: but you don't give a complete program so we can't help you debugging it. 20:20:35 ix.io 20:21:08 AeroNoti1 [~xeno@abor76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 20:21:12 - 20:21:16 oops 20:21:48 -!- Davidbrcz [~david@AToulouse-554-1-30-171.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:22:29 -!- AeroNotix [~xeno@abnz44.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:23:03 pjb: here my tryial ... http://paste.lisp.org/display/137622#4 20:23:37 -!- Inode [~inode@unaffiliated/inode] has left #lisp 20:24:52 pnpuff: there's a Stack overflow on value stack. 20:25:10 -!- walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:25:30 pnpuff: Try: (symbol-name 'my-apply) ; correct your defpackage. 20:30:23 Try: (trace my-apply my-eval) (my-apply '(lambda (x y) (cons (eq x z) y)) '((a . 1) b) 'nil) 20:31:19 jlongste` [~user@pool-96-238-181-209.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 20:32:14 xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.154.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #lisp 20:32:28 Is slime mailing list dead, or I simply getting no response to my contrib/slime-snapshot resurrection patch? 20:33:04 Even something like "no we won't merge it" would be polite.. I waited like a week already 20:33:52 pnpuff: add my-evlis to trace. 20:33:56 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-236-245-37.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:34:01 btw all that week I been restarting / re-snapshotting all the time (adding more and more libs to my base image), and had zero problems 20:34:52 its pretty cool to bind a key that saves huge image in background, and then ,restart-inferior finishes in 1 second (got it adviced to use snapshot), and all my stuff is still there 20:35:55 -!- zophy [~sy@24.220.134.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:36:06 pnpuff: and my-assoc. 20:36:31 pnpuff: try: (cdr nil) 20:36:31 knob2 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 20:36:55 mattrepl [~mattrepl@pool-72-83-66-59.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 20:38:33 walter [~walter@ip-64-134-101-254.public.wayport.net] has joined #lisp 20:38:53 -!- tfan [~tarik@bas2-montreal29-1177924872.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:39:13 -!- knob is now known as Guest7053 20:39:53 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-ho1.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:40:05 -!- knob2 is now known as knob 20:40:10 ok pjb, but I think my-asso works well 20:40:20 No, it doesn't. 20:40:37 try: (my-assoc 'no-no '((a . 1) (b . 2))) 20:41:13 Also, usually assoc doesn't return a fresh cons: ((my-equal (caar a) x) (cons (caar a) (cdar a))) --> ((my-equal (caar a) x) (car a)) 20:41:43 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu2.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 20:42:10 -!- nha [~prefect@koln-5d81bf00.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:42:24 -!- oudeis [~oudeis@95.35.54.226] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:46:55 pnpuff: you could add test cases. (defun test/my-assoc () (assert (eql 1 (car (my-assoc 'a '((a . 1) (b . 2)))))) (assert (eql 2 (car (my-assoc 'b '((a . 1) (b . 2)))))) (assert (null (my-assoc 'z '((a . 1) (b . 2))))) (assert (null (my-assoc 'a '()))) :success) and so on for each of your functions. 20:47:12 -!- __class__ [~class@99-105-56-217.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:47:15 -!- ehu [~Erik@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:47:32 ehu [~Erik@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 20:47:33 -!- jlongste` [~user@pool-96-238-181-209.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:47:37 tfan [~tarik@bas2-montreal29-1177924872.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 20:51:43 pjb: (car (my-assoc 'b '((a . 1) (b . 2)))) => b ? 20:51:59 Oh, right, I meant cdr. 20:52:09 But you're right, you should test both car and cdr. 20:52:12 anyway test cases are awesome! thanks a lot :-) 20:52:40 (let ((e (my-assoc 'a '((a . 1) (b . 2))))) (assert (and (eql 'a (car e)) (eql 1 (cdr e))))) 20:52:53 -!- tfan [~tarik@bas2-montreal29-1177924872.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:53:03 You could even check: (eq (my-assoc 'a '((a . 1) (b . 2))) (my-assoc 'a '((a . 1) (b . 2)))) 20:53:19 looping over all the keys. 20:53:54 -!- Guest7053 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:54:22 Guest7053 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 20:55:28 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-185-168-200.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:11 -!- AeroNoti1 [~xeno@abor76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Uploading hax.....] 20:59:28 AeroNotix [~xeno@abor76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 21:01:28 __class__ [~class@99-105-56-217.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 21:01:33 joe9 [~user@c-71-236-20-61.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:04:49 -!- JPeterson [~JPeterson@s213-103-210-215.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04:49 nialo [~nialo@ool-18bbb124.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 21:05:07 Adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #lisp 21:05:51 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-168-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:07:18 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.154.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:08:27 clintm [~user@c-50-132-37-23.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:09:12 -!- johanbev [~johanbev@30.84-48-216.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:09:49 pjb: now (maybe) is ok... http://paste.lisp.org/display/137622#6 21:10:38 johanbev [~johanbev@30.84-48-216.nextgentel.com] has joined #lisp 21:10:45 JPeterson [~JPeterson@s213-103-210-215.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 21:11:12 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-197-84.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:11:42 -!- Guest7053 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:12:06 Guest7053 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 21:13:14 Tomorrow I'll test other functions. Thanks for the help pjb. 21:13:46 jlongste` [~user@pool-96-238-181-209.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 21:14:41 zophy [~sy@24.220.134.137] has joined #lisp 21:15:11 -!- s0ber [~s0ber@114-25-206-227.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:17:09 s0ber [~s0ber@114-36-226-34.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 21:22:02 -!- jlongste` [~user@pool-96-238-181-209.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:22:32 Odyessus [~odyessus@chello080109062130.15.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #lisp 21:22:49 -!- agumonkey [~agu@194.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:23:03 -!- JPeterson [~JPeterson@s213-103-210-215.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:26:23 -!- zophy [~sy@24.220.134.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:26:58 -!- Watcher7|off is now known as Watcher7 21:27:51 chameco [~samuel@cpe-67-241-240-138.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 21:30:13 -!- ch077179 [~ch077179@unaffiliated/ch077179] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31:44 -!- knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:31:51 JPeterson [~JPeterson@s213-103-210-215.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 21:31:58 tfan [~tarik@modemcable249.179-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #lisp 21:32:09 -!- Odyessus [~odyessus@chello080109062130.15.14.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 21:32:34 -!- pnpuff [~ff@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:33:17 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu2.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:33:44 -!- walter [~walter@ip-64-134-101-254.public.wayport.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:37:15 dcooper8 [~dcooper8@c-98-250-10-50.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:37:54 -!- lukas [~lukas@194.228.13.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:38:05 -!- moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-61-236.w90-45.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:39:31 lukas [~lukas@194.228.13.78] has joined #lisp 21:40:52 walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:42:02 -!- zacharias [~zacharias@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2-dev] 21:42:33 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:30 Does anyone have a pointer on how to take a string such as "=?ISO-xxx?Blah" and decode/format/whatever it into "Blah" correctly? Apparently, I don't know near as much about utf8 as I thought I did. 21:45:51 it's not UTF-8, iirc 21:45:57 utf8 / encodings in general. 21:45:58 hah 21:46:05 but some craziness related to myriad of encodings in mail 21:46:51 Ok, that makes some sense. Somewhat like having to decode the 'quoted printable' type? 21:48:16 Yes. That encoding-marker format is specifically part of MIME. 21:48:33 yeah. In this case "Hey, I encoded the Subject field in a shitty encoding, just for you!" 21:49:07 nha [~prefect@koln-5d81bf00.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 21:49:41 -!- Adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:49:43 -!- Guest7053 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:50:11 Guest7053 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 21:51:50 -!- dcooper8 [~dcooper8@c-98-250-10-50.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: dcooper8] 21:55:19 PuercoPop [~user@pool-96-250-219-190.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 21:57:01 Yay, got it. cl-rfc2047 in quicklisp. 21:57:38 -!- nha [~prefect@koln-5d81bf00.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:57:45 dcooper8 [~dcooper8@c-98-250-10-50.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:01:51 zophy [~sy@24.220.134.137] has joined #lisp 22:02:07 -!- AeroNotix [~xeno@abor76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Uploading hax.....] 22:02:52 -!- Sagane [~Sagane@177.100-226-89.dsl.completel.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:53 -!- dcooper8 [~dcooper8@c-98-250-10-50.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: dcooper8] 22:10:57 -!- Guest7053 is now known as knob 22:12:55 -!- zophy [~sy@24.220.134.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:15:23 -!- kimochiwarui [~user@unaffiliated/dijkstragroupie] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:19:33 scottj [~scott@206.212.250.58] has joined #lisp 22:19:57 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:22:58 -!- knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:17 -!- mattrepl [~mattrepl@pool-72-83-66-59.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: mattrepl] 22:23:25 knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-128.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 22:25:08 -!- bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:25:27 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-1-78.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:27:33 agumonkey [~agu@194.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 22:29:36 jlongste` [~user@pool-96-238-181-209.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 22:32:18 seangrove [~user@208.80.69.42] has joined #lisp 22:33:36 -!- McMAGIC--Copy [~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:13 -!- brianw [~textual@cpe-70-113-19-93.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Just search references would be great. 23:41:34 popper66 [~popper66@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:41:51 (reading on the condition system, I suddenly remembered :)) 23:44:01 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:48:42 brianw [~textual@cpe-70-113-19-93.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp