00:05:30 sadface. i haven't really used cmucl earlier. is it any good? 00:05:40 or rather, what are it's strong and weak points? 00:06:16 tcr1 [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 00:07:51 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:10:41 -!- rob7n8h17 [~rob7n8h17@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:17:23 rob7n8h17 [~rob7n8h17@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 00:20:11 -!- spaceships [~spaceship@host-72-174-137-126.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:21:04 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-185-82-146.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 00:21:43 -!- bitonic` is now known as bitonic 00:22:57 -!- kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24:10 -!- morphling [~stefan@gssn-5f7571ae.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:27:09 youlysses [~user@75-132-7-80.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #lisp 00:27:58 -!- Suomin [HydraIRC@DHCP-129-59-24-47.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 00:30:46 -!- youlysses [~user@75-132-7-80.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31:00 -!- Fare [~fare@men75-12-88-183-198-131.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:31:02 normanrichards [~normanric@70.114.215.220] has joined #lisp 00:31:48 -!- Corvidium [~cosman246@c-24-56-228-105.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:32:38 ubii_mobile [~ubii@71.sub-174-230-128.myvzw.com] has joined #lisp 00:33:27 -!- knob [~knob@adsl-173-228-241-65.prtc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:35:02 -!- ubii_mobile [~ubii@71.sub-174-230-128.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:35:55 carleos [~carleos@cm-83-97-243-56.telecable.es] has joined #lisp 00:39:54 youlysses [~user@75-132-7-80.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #lisp 00:42:07 Defluo [~Defluo@unaffiliated/defluo] has joined #lisp 00:46:43 fisxoj [~fisxoj@c-24-12-190-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 00:48:00 so, for a while now, I've been after the holy grail of matrix processing -- array slices -- which lisp only does as long as the data is contiguous in memeory 00:48:32 so, I implemented a class that would calculate offsets to access columns in the underlying array, but it runs so much slower 00:49:43 can't you do it the usual way with a rank-1 array and strides 00:50:38 -!- cabaire [~nobody@xdsl-78-35-169-130.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:55:22 Bike, I'm trying to do that, but the calculating the index and calling out to a function that calls aref seems less efficient than it could be... Maybe the problem just isn't solvable the way I want 00:59:16 -!- tcr1 [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:59:46 -!- Defluo [~Defluo@unaffiliated/defluo] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 01:01:04 like, for the (aref) equivalent, it needs to call out to a function, and I think then you get double-float boxing as well on the return 01:01:38 fisxoj: inline that, and make sure the underlying array's type is declared. 01:02:43 pkhuong, even with that, it runs pretty slowly, maybe calculating indices is the culprit, though 01:05:12 sxlnxdx [~tim@150.134.71.185] has joined #lisp 01:06:29 is there a way to make a function inlinable but still able to be called uninlined? 01:07:25 you can declare notinline lexically 01:07:29 fisxoj: ... an inlined function. 01:08:07 pkhuong, sorry if I'm wrong, I thought I wasn't able to call the function from the REPL last time I used one 01:09:13 also, your implementation may not do anything with inline generic functions. 01:09:33 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:10:19 bitonic` [~user@027b5e58.bb.sky.com] has joined #lisp 01:10:35 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 01:12:56 milosn [~milosn@user-5AF507FD.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #lisp 01:12:58 -!- [SLB] is now known as [SLB]` 01:13:07 -!- bitonic [~user@027b6fd2.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:15:01 -!- milosn_ [~milosn@user-5AF5036C.broadband.tesco.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:20:47 -!- bitonic` [~user@027b5e58.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:23:15 spaceships [~spaceship@host-72-174-137-126.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net] has joined #lisp 01:31:34 -!- rmathews [~roshan@122.174.53.6] has quit [Quit: ...] 01:34:36 toekutr [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 01:35:32 Ok, 650 lines of code later and I can compile any pathological combination of QUOTEd CONSes, ARRAYs or HASH-TABLEs. 01:36:52 I did not know how complicated such a little thing like QUOTE would be to compile. It looked like such an innocuous language feature. 01:39:02 still not sure why you're conflating compile-file behavior and quote 01:40:30 Because I have to generate code for QUOTE. '(1 2 3) --(COMPILE-FILE)--> whole bunch of compiled code. 01:40:55 but it's the ame with arrays outside of quotation. 01:41:11 Sure is. 01:41:56 -!- agumonkey [~agu@58.217.72.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:45:11 dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-61-245.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 01:45:38 bananagram [~bot@c-98-198-236-112.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 01:48:32 Here's an example of a quoted hash-table that contains an array. http://pastebin.com/66rHRYHY 01:49:22 I'm not making a point or asking a question. I'm just happy that I got it to work. 01:49:58 that's good to hear. 01:50:31 And I appreciate your help because the MAKE-LOAD-FORM idea was a great suggestion that saved me a lot of time flailing. 01:53:11 -!- quazimodo [~quazimodo@c27-253-100-110.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:53:12 Here's the Common Lisp code that implements it http://pastebin.com/EqeYCJh3. It works for COMPILE-FILE. I'll finish it for COMPILE tonight. 01:53:59 QUOTE for COMPILE is trivial. 01:54:02 I don't think you need it for compile? 01:54:19 bitonic` [~user@5acc1bad.bb.sky.com] has joined #lisp 01:55:39 cfy [~ilisp@unaffiliated/chenfengyuan] has joined #lisp 01:55:47 k0001 [~k0001@host197.186-125-96.telecom.net.ar] has joined #lisp 01:56:44 Well, it's a little more complicated by my use of boost::shared_ptr's. I have to have at least one shared_ptr instance point to the quoted object and pointers from COMPILEd code don't count (they are simple pointers). So I build a VECTOR of boost::shared_ptrs that stores all of the QUOTEd objects. 01:58:28 -!- k0001_ [~k0001@200.117.223.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:58:37 As COMPILE encounters QUOTEd objects, they are VECTOR-PUSH-EXTENDed onto the end of that VECTOR and referenced by their integer index within the compiled code. 01:59:52 The same thing happens with every literal and self-quoting object except nil, T, and SYMBOLs which are handled a little differently. 02:00:51 why T and NIL specially? they are symbols... 02:04:04 Well, NIL is a little weird in my implementation - I actually have hundreds of different NIL values. One for each C++ class so there is a Symbol::nil value and a Fixnum::nil value and so on. 02:04:44 geekmod [~fabookcha@94-23-77-60.kimsufi.com] has joined #lisp 02:04:55 Maybe I can roll them into the code that handles SYMBOLs though - I'll have to think about it. 02:05:00 ah. 02:06:12 I have an idea for an ID system using GPS. I am Portuguese and live in the UK. What kind of patent do you think I should be looking for? 02:09:09 Yeah, it was one of the first big conceptual hurdles I had to get over when I started implementing CL in C++ - every variable of a C++ class that represented a CL class had to be able to be set to NIL but to do that, the NIL value has to be of the same C++ class. But all the NIL values have to be equivalent to each other. 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:int :initial-contents list-of-bytes))) (numeric send)) works but it seems there are "leaks" after x many calls... 14:41:34 qptain_Nemo [~qN@89.207.216.208] has joined #lisp 14:43:52 the best would be to have this in lisp, I tried the lib ieee-floats but is not sufficient on its own 14:43:53 -!- qNemo [~qN@89.207.216.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:43:56 -!- emma is now known as em 14:44:39 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:47:17 skanev [~aquarius@78.128.55.20] has joined #lisp 14:47:51 -!- francogrex [~user@109.134.238.162] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 14:48:23 -!- zolk3ri [~Zol1ka@unaffiliated/zolk3ri] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:48:58 irpanech6 [~user@24.68.147.45] has joined #lisp 14:50:07 mrSpec [~Spec@188.21.162.214] has joined #lisp 14:50:07 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@188.21.162.214] has quit [Changing host] 14:50:07 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 14:51:29 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You did that stuff on that stack of that function. 15:17:38 -!- kmels [~kmels@frbg-5f733432.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:18:59 the elements of buf and num have different sizes, etc. 15:20:57 problem is probably outside that function though 15:21:44 it may not be returning the intended value but shouldn't be affecting c heap(s) 15:22:06 wakeup [~max@xdsl-89-0-87-83.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 15:22:10 hi 15:22:41 what the hell is COMPUTE-EFFECTIVE-SLOT-DEFINITION-INITARGS and how do I get it in CCL? 15:22:53 unless the difference in the function type (double numeric) vs the value (double) matters 15:23:04 wakeup: hmm... have you checked closer-mop? 15:23:51 -!- chaitanya [~chaitanya@122.161.113.56] has quit [Quit: chaitanya] 15:23:54 sounds like MOP stuff wakeup 15:24:17 chaitanya [~chaitanya@122.161.113.56] has joined #lisp 15:24:29 p_l: I am trying to use MIME4CL on CCL, since CL-MIME is, well... horrible. MIME4CL requires SCLF, which tries to import said function... 15:24:56 is CCL Closure Common Lisp? 15:25:00 yes 15:25:02 wakeup: well, yeah, you might have to check if it's not trying to access some MOP functionality in way specific to some other lisp 15:25:05 witha z 15:25:21 the java deal? 15:25:23 wakeup: so you could try to move it over to closer-mop 15:25:25 JuanDaugherty: nope 15:25:37 the mac deal? 15:25:39 CCL is a descendant of Macintosh Common Lisp 15:26:03 (j and z alliterate a little) 15:26:10 thing is CLOSER-MOP doesn't even have that function 15:26:19 masondesu [~textual@adsl-74-177-126-165.gsp.bellsouth.net] has joined #lisp 15:26:23 this pisses me off so much 15:26:46 wakeup: then probably it has something similar, because it's a name used in some other lisp 15:27:00 portablility anyone? 15:27:02 -!- frito [~user@cpc16-sotn8-2-0-cust290.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:37 whats worse is I know this is all for some OOP mumbo jumbo anti pattern... 15:28:32 wakeup: it's taken from GNU CLISP, it seems 15:28:51 browndawg [~browndawg@117.214.169.72] has joined #lisp 15:29:13 OOP mumbo jumbo anti pattern 15:29:26 -!- irpanech6 [~user@24.68.147.45] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:29:27 few others have it as well, or had 15:29:33 (Elephant seems to call it) 15:29:41 JuanDaugherty: exactly 15:30:44 leo2007 [~leo@182.48.109.8] has joined #lisp 15:32:22 JuanDaugherty: most of the times heavy use of CLOS indicates a mediocre programmer 15:33:41 b1rkh0ff [~b1rkh0ff@178.77.27.113] has joined #lisp 15:34:19 well the OOP is CL is maybe a little more strained than elsewhere but that's due to it's fitting the lang, its culture 15:36:04 *in CL 15:36:39 -!- chaitanya [~chaitanya@122.161.113.56] has quit [Quit: chaitanya] 15:37:00 svetlyak40wt [~svetlyak4@broadband-95-84-141-55.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #lisp 15:37:13 antgreen [~green@out-on-226.wireless.telus.com] has joined #lisp 15:37:30 and most people are mediocrities, why should programmers be different? Especially if most people burn out after relatively short time (compared to similar professions) 15:40:12 -!- cobra [~cobra@218.26.228.247] has quit [Quit: ] 15:40:27 because mediocre code is maintainable 15:40:33 *not 15:40:36 Hydan [~hydan@ip-89-102-13-27.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lisp 15:40:54 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:41:11 or, if well maintained, mediocre code will become good code 15:41:56 and even if OOP code can be good, it is almost never required, and it's non OOP couterpart is almost always better 15:42:12 -!- breakds [~breakds@ppp-70-226-163-93.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:43:20 Knirr [~Knirr@c-7e44e555.143-16-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #lisp 15:46:09 -!- stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-014-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:46:14 yrk [~user@c-50-133-134-220.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:46:22 -!- yrk 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I think I've managed to get sbcl to work with emacs and slime, however, when I check the inferior-lisp buffer window, there's a lot of output regarding undefined functions and whatnot 16:56:14 can those be safely ignored? 16:56:14 chaitanya [~chaitanya@122.161.113.56] has joined #lisp 16:57:20 almigi: depends on the functions. Anyways, with slime you'd rather look the *slime-repl sbcl* buffer. 16:58:53 it happens when you load SWANK (the CL side of SLIME) for the first time. 16:59:20 qptain_Nemo [~qN@89.207.216.208] has joined #lisp 16:59:50 pjb: everything seems to work, I do get a working slime-repl sbcl buffer. It's just that I have no real experience with emacs, so my setting up of slime was basically me googleing "emacs slime sbcl" and following those instructions 17:01:27 -!- chaitanya [~chaitanya@122.161.113.56] has quit [Quit: chaitanya] 17:01:33 but, I guess as long as I wind up in a working *slime-repl sbcl* buffer with the "happy hacking" message at the bottom, I should be all good, right? 17:03:00 mrSpec [~Spec@188.21.162.214] has joined #lisp 17:03:00 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@188.21.162.214] has quit [Changing host] 17:03:00 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 17:03:04 zolk3ri [~zolk3ri@unaffiliated/zolk3ri] has joined #lisp 17:03:36 almigi: you should be typing in the window that has a "CL-USER> "-prompt. i think the default binding to get it to pop up is C-c C-z. 17:06:36 When debugging how does a person display the value of a symbol that is bound to a packageless symbol (one generated by GENSYM)? 17:06:37 svetlyak40wt [~svetlyak4@broadband-95-84-141-55.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #lisp 17:07:02 anwyn [~ole@ip-109-43-0-64.web.vodafone.de] has joined #lisp 17:07:15 My problem is that if I type in #:XXX it will be a different symbol from the #:XXX associated with the value. 17:07:28 przl [~przlrkt@p54BF8633.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 17:07:30 drmeister: with SLIME's inspector and presentations. 17:07:48 -!- sugarshark [~ole@p54884D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:08:08 -!- kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:09:31 davorb: yes, I do end up with a CL-USER> prompt. and I am able to pass basic functions to it and get responses (i.e. (* 4 4) returns 16). So I guess I'm all good. 17:10:39 yay 17:11:01 I'm adding to my debugger the ability to evaluate arbitrary code within the current frame within the debugger. It just occurred to me that I won't be able to interogate GENSYMed symbols that way unless I first walk the expression and match symbol names to symbol names in the current frame. 17:11:44 -!- anwyn [~ole@ip-109-43-0-64.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:12:03 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p54BF8633.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:13:16 -!- bjorkintosh [~bjork@ip68-13-229-200.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:13:56 -!- qptain_Nemo [~qN@89.207.216.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:14:07 -!- svetlyak40wt [~svetlyak4@broadband-95-84-141-55.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15:28 -!- Thra11 [~thrall@87.114.190.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:15:45 almigi: sometimes you get a slime-repl, but there are still errors listed in *inferior-lisp* to cater to. Notably, all that is done in your rc files before swank is loaded is traced in *inferior-lisp*, so if you have errors there, it's here you should look for them. 17:16:30 two- [~1@c-67-171-131-23.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 17:16:42 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 17:16:57 drmeister: yes, you need to have a reference to that uninterned symbol, to be able to manipulate it. 17:17:32 If the inspect has it, then the inspector can get its value. But you have to implement a way to designate it, to tell the inspect it's that symbol you want the value of. 17:20:14 qptain_Nemo [~qN@89.207.216.208] has joined #lisp 17:20:26 Defluo [~Defluo@unaffiliated/defluo] has joined #lisp 17:20:53 spaceships [~spaceship@host-72-174-137-126.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net] has joined #lisp 17:21:07 -!- qptain_Nemo [~qN@89.207.216.208] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:21:28 drmeister: on the other hand, if the programmer took care of not interning the symbol, it's because he doesn't want it to be accessible, even in the debugger. 17:22:50 qptain_Nemo [~qN@89.207.216.208] has joined #lisp 17:25:13 pjb: What about macros? The code they generate contains lots of GENSYMd symbols - I'd like to inspect those. 17:25:43 morphling [~stefan@gssn-4d002cf9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 17:25:58 avesilver [~androirc@189.146.223.89] has joined #lisp 17:26:07 Hey lispers 17:27:27 -!- pjb [~user@AMontsouris-651-1-131-61.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:29:54 pjb: Or should I be interning GENSYMd symbols within macros to make them accessible for debugging? I'm writing/debugging lots of macros at the moment as I develop this compiler. 17:30:27 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.97.187] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30:58 mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.97.187] has joined #lisp 17:31:05 -!- kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:31:53 pjb [~user@AMontsouris-651-1-131-61.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 17:35:08 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:37:01 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-185-82-146.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:37:38 lduros` [~user@pool-108-52-158-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 17:38:44 -!- lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:41:02 -!- lduros` [~user@pool-108-52-158-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:41:20 Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 17:42:44 -!- ASau [~user@46.115.102.139] has quit [Remote 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(: 19:03:42 Yuuhi [benni@pD9F992EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 19:04:28 rmathews [~roshan@122.174.14.241] has joined #lisp 19:04:44 kmels [~kmels@frbg-5f733432.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 19:06:40 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-ho1.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:08:12 -!- yacks [~yacks@180.151.36.169] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:08:12 -!- paul0 [~paul0@177.96.51.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:08:23 paul0 [~paul0@177.96.51.253] has joined #lisp 19:09:56 -!- yrk [~user@pdpc/supporter/student/yrk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:13:41 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-78-116.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 19:17:37 Pnpuff yeah! Im interested 19:18:03 Pnpuff: yes i am 19:18:39 pnpuff: yes i am imterested 19:20:13 yawnt [~yawnt@net-93-147-118-7.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #lisp 19:20:15 hello :D 19:20:35 Hi! 19:20:38 hello yawnt 19:21:16 So pnpuff why you mention the quantum ideal gas 19:22:31 so like i have a question (another).. what's the best prototype oriented object system in the lisp world in your opinion? 19:22:39 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p54BF8633.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:26:01 Dont know 19:27:49 -!- paul0 [~paul0@177.96.51.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28:00 paul0 [~paul0@177.96.51.253] has joined #lisp 19:28:08 edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-149-172-63-75.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 19:30:16 -!- xcombelle [~xcombelle@AToulouse-551-1-76-183.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:36:11 Slivka [~Slivka@81.4.242.0] has joined #lisp 19:38:43 Defluo [~Defluo@unaffiliated/defluo] has joined #lisp 19:41:38 avesilver: this is not a chennel to talk about ergodic theory, anyway all you need to know is online.. 19:42:40 Qworkescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #lisp 19:46:44 paul0_ [~paul0@177.96.51.253] has joined #lisp 19:46:46 -!- paul0 [~paul0@177.96.51.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:46:46 -!- paul0_ is now known as paul0 19:47:27 -!- snits [~snits@174-17-115-191.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:47:46 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@50-196-148-102-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 19:47:57 yawnt: CLOS does just about anything you'd actually want from a prototype system in practice. 19:48:19 delegation sucks, and if you need lightweight objects just implement the flyweight pattern 19:48:20 kpreid [~kpreid@50-196-148-102-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lisp 19:49:08 -!- Defluo [~Defluo@unaffiliated/defluo] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:49:18 snits [~snits@inet-hqmc05-o.oracle.com] has joined #lisp 19:51:07 -!- paul0 [~paul0@177.96.51.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:51:19 skanev [~aquarius@78.128.55.20] has joined #lisp 19:55:11 Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has joined #lisp 20:02:16 -!- snits [~snits@inet-hqmc05-o.oracle.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:03:10 -!- edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-149-172-63-75.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: nuclear meltdown] 20:05:51 -!- _d3f [~freedo@nl2.ovpn.to] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07:09 nialo [~nialo@ool-18bbb124.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 20:07:11 -!- Qworkescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:07:22 -!- qptain_Nemo [~qN@89.207.216.208] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:10 Defluo [~Defluo@unaffiliated/defluo] has joined #lisp 20:10:44 -!- s0ber [~s0ber@114-36-239-20.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12:43 s0ber [~s0ber@114-36-231-175.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 20:15:21 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:18:38 Sikander [~userid@54699806.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #lisp 20:19:19 Hi guys, is there a way to check (in sbcl) if a double float is NaN? 20:20:16 sb-ext:float-nan-p I think 20:20:46 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-192-107.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 20:21:32 Thanks, that's it! 20:25:15 lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has joined #lisp 20:26:12 -!- Sikander [~userid@54699806.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:27:28 tcr1 [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 20:28:18 -!- lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30:11 Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 20:32:44 lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has joined #lisp 20:32:44 paul0 [~paul0@177.96.51.253] has joined #lisp 20:34:41 -!- ehu [~ehu@93.82.250.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:35:01 -!- sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:20 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 20:37:30 Thra11 [~thrall@87.115.179.177] has joined #lisp 20:40:55 -!- svetlyak40wt [~svetlyak4@broadband-95-84-141-55.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44:19 -!- ASau [~user@46.115.102.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:45:39 ASau [~user@46.115.102.139] has joined #lisp 20:49:44 wakeup: "most of the times heavy use of CLOS indicates a mediocre programmer" ... very true, very true. I used to use CLOS and MOP all the time... now I have to live in my previous mediocracy, and do like like my previous selfs use of CLOS, let alone MOP :) 20:49:46 -!- jesusito [~user@213.253.76.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has left #lisp 20:50:31 francogrex [~user@109.134.238.162] has joined #lisp 20:52:34 how would I prevent a return of a 5.071569940407001d-312 in clisp to not return a float underflow ? 20:53:14 -!- normanrichards [~normanric@rrcs-108-178-120-144.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [] 20:54:44 -!- Defluo [~Defluo@unaffiliated/defluo] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 20:55:00 govinda [~govinda@186.126.122.142] has joined #lisp 20:55:10 MOST-NEGATIVE-DOUBLE-FLOAT > -1.7976931348623157d308 20:55:40 how does one program the lisp 20:55:43 so, what, you want an error to be raised? 20:56:18 and -4.9406564584124654d-324 is least negative double float 20:56:53 Bike: not, it's just that it's still within the max limits, I'm surprised at the error underflow 20:56:59 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-78-116.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56:59 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.97.187] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57:22 mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.97.187] has joined #lisp 20:57:42 What's least-positive-double-float? 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21:57:54 is there a way to have two daos returned? 21:59:27 is it common to have multiple daos returned 22:00:09 duko: i use plist mostly. i found daos only useful when writing programs that directly operate on individual tables. 22:00:10 or is it more common to use a simple s-sql statement to return data from joined tables 22:00:41 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@94.27.89.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:00:45 duko: daos are not really trying to be an object relational mapping, they are just a clos representation for table rows. 22:01:00 H4ns: I use plist myself, and do not like dao's simply because rows are not objects and columns not slots :) 22:01:05 H4ns: thank you 22:01:50 masondesu [~textual@adsl-98-84-72-35.gsp.bellsouth.net] has joined #lisp 22:01:54 this does not mean that i'd not wish for an orm sometimes :) 22:02:19 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:53 H4ns: heh ... I wrote my own, and use it all the time, and still dislike treating rows as objects... there are some issues with that approach :P 22:04:49 drewc: yeah. one of the issues is that orms stink in general 22:05:23 drewc: in particular if there is another orm dealing with the same data, or other non-object-oriented clients who access the data. 22:05:57 H4ns: precisely. I like rows ... and I like 'objects' for EQ things ...trying to mix the two, well, sort of smells like **it. 22:06:11 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.148.131.66] has joined #lisp 22:06:18 nialo [~nialo@ool-18bbb124.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 22:06:27 duko: you want plists, trust these two old farts 22:07:23 -!- AeroNotix [~xeno@abop16.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:07:36 when you give advice I follow it 22:07:51 yawnt: have a look at KR. IIRC, it's a prototype OO system. 22:08:00 I'm going to use plists and I'll forget about daos 22:08:14 H4ns: yeah, that is actually something I have done with an app that is now 10 years old ... made sense when bandwidth was precious ... store the entire ORM DB in memory and only hit the postgresql server when insert/update ....ugh, not fun to 'fix' at all. 22:09:49 and of course, the app was built to have 4 or 5 users ... now it is above 150 users .... so tend to run out of RAM because it is also call/cc and contextl based ... sometimes I wonder wtf I thought was a good idea 22:10:00 mrrhrrhrr 22:11:34 akovalenko [~user@95.72.101.37] has joined #lisp 22:14:03 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 22:14:23 *drewc* is now simply going to say that he used :plists before they were ever included in postmodern, and still uses it today ... especially nice with :INITARGs for 'proper' objects ;) 22:14:34 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-192-107.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 22:15:19 -!- normanrichards [~normanric@mobile-166-137-147-234.mycingular.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:23 yeah. screw all that talk about type systems. or performance. 22:15:37 well, some people talk about that, and we build systems for customers, right? :) 22:17:13 Hexstream [~hexstream@modemcable107.197-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #lisp 22:17:36 amurdaca [~amurdaca@93-50-121-88.ip152.fastwebnet.it] has joined #lisp 22:18:36 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:18:50 heh ... 2012 I know and learned way way way too much about postgresql performance. 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