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It's pretty easy. 06:33:10 install emacs 06:33:14 install quicklisp 06:33:39 sorry, i'm a vim user; not looking to jump to emacs 06:33:53 what libraries should i look for in quicklisp? 06:34:06 perhaps you'd like slimv 06:34:22 tried it for a while, but didn't much like the experience 06:34:40 blar1: you're just running ccl in a terminal? 06:34:45 yes 06:34:49 but via cygwin 06:34:51 blar1: look at linedit. 06:35:06 ah ha 06:35:14 or rlwrap 06:35:44 but it's also nice to be able to evaluate or compile a block easily from a source file 06:35:48 i'm using rlwrap for my sbcl REPL on my linux box, but i couldn't get it working in windows 06:36:25 -!- Jubb [~ghost@pool-96-241-84-33.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:36:30 you want to write your own repl? or is this about somehow making the included repl use readline or whatever? 06:36:51 i just wanted to figure out how to get command history in the clozure cl repl 06:37:19 clisp had it, but it seems like the library support in clisp doesn't match other flavors 06:37:38 I have to say SLIME is really nice 06:37:42 so i've been looking around for another flavor of CL with more libraries 06:37:42 even to a vimmer like me 06:37:51 some projects might have been avoiding readline because of its license also 06:38:07 yeah... bsd and apple do that 06:38:14 there's libedit however that's bsd-licensed and presents a compatible interface 06:38:31 I've never been able to configure libedit to quite match my readline bindings :/ 06:39:12 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #lisp 06:40:03 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Client Quit] 06:40:55 personally despite using vim for coding in general, I got used enough to emacs+slime to use that for lisp 06:44:44 -!- echo-area [~user@123.112.69.60] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:45:03 echo-area [~user@123.112.69.60] has joined #lisp 06:45:50 christophergonza 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I see that the installation instructions specify Linux. It looks like the recommended installation toolchain is available on mswin though 09:19:03 Erg mobile typo corrections 09:19:15 I mean' CL-smoke 09:19:51 killerboy [~mateusz@217.17.38.43] has joined #lisp 09:20:44 Ralt [~Ralt@165.200.11.93.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 09:23:49 -!- Slivka [~Slivka@31.40.53.196] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:23:49 -!- kofno [~kofno@cpe-24-165-213-150.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:24:18 Slivka [~Slivka@31.40.53.196] has joined #lisp 09:24:23 -!- Slivka [~Slivka@31.40.53.196] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:24:40 Slivka [~Slivka@31.40.53.196] has joined #lisp 09:24:51 -!- Ralt [~Ralt@165.200.11.93.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:25:39 That was a bad typo. My apologies to the channel. 09:32:19 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-192-93.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:33:43 not me, I don't wanna get balled up in lisp GUI shits 09:33:45 cl comes on windows? not that bad... 09:34:53 -!- kmels_ [~kmels@p5B13FC26.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:34:55 cl runs virtually everywhere, at least every major dev platform 09:35:26 -!- nydel [~nydel@ip72-197-245-1.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: quit] 09:35:35 there are at least two very commerical implementations on windows, allegro and lw 09:35:47 and sundry free others 09:35:48 -!- kiuma_ [~kiuma@2-230-138-74.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:10 kiuma_ [~kiuma@2-230-138-74.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has joined #lisp 09:36:44 s/dev/desktop/ 09:36:47 Been using SBCL on Windows - I've seen that SB-threads does have muted operations there, and condition variables, but I am not an SBCL pro albeit ;) 09:36:59 Mutex operations I mean 09:37:11 traditionally sbcl on windows has been deprecated 09:37:17 or just missing 09:37:34 apparently that's changed if you're running it 09:37:55 developers generally deprecate windows these days 09:37:55 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.85.107] has left #lisp 09:38:16 I get work from in house people turning up their noses at maintaining it 09:38:42 I just kind of clicked to install, lol 09:39:44 i guess everybody sees Stever Balmers face when they think of DOS 09:39:49 Still kind of hoping Apple 3.0 could be the origins of the Modern Lisp OS, albeit in bluesky.... Trying to be less platform-hegemoniacal lol! 09:39:50 *Steve 09:40:37 hegemoniacal, very good 09:40:48 ;) 09:41:04 most lang cultures are that and you could add other qualifiers to it 09:41:58 a single adjective capturing NIH and lang culture provinciality 09:42:34 probably least applicable to general lisp if that is taken to mean both CL and scheme 09:42:51 Frankly I'd like to have a mac mini already - it could seem that one nearly has to own a mac, to develop for Apple mobile, barring soe HTML5 toolkits - but budget constraints prevent 09:43:04 morphling [~stefan@gssn-4d003044.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 09:43:10 I've had one for about 4 years, upgraded it to 8G 09:43:22 Nice! 09:43:37 with stock RAM myself 09:44:19 -!- gridaphobe [~user@cpe-66-91-253-127.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:45:37 -!- arrsim [~user@mail.fitness2live.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:46:21 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:46:31 ivan-kanis [~user@lns-c10k-ft-02-t2-89-83-137-164.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #lisp 09:47:11 NikolaiDante [~nikolaida@unaffiliated/knighterrant] has joined #lisp 09:48:14 -!- NikolaiDante [~nikolaida@unaffiliated/knighterrant] has left #lisp 09:52:39 yeah you need a mac for XCode and Apples hoop course 09:53:14 Yeah, I'm really hoping they'll revise their iTunes store policies in the mobile market 09:53:16 a substantial driver for the popularity of Android 09:53:34 I wouldn't hold my breath on that 09:53:38 Fwiw Speaking of CL-smoke, it looks like Qt is available for Mobile - http://bit.ly/T1W7Fw - and there's been some work in porting ECL to run on the iPhone - http://bit.ly/T1W8ZY - bluesky albeit, maybe it could be an xplatform toolkit, with some work? 09:54:15 be odd if it wasn't since Nokia owns it 09:55:16 -!- theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:55:29 hrmmm, yeah they make mobile phones huh? Didn't Nokia serve as something of a home for Wilbur, too? 09:55:55 theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has joined #lisp 09:55:56 -!- stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-233-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:57:02 well they just bought it, it was primarily desktop before that, 2 or 3 years ago I think 09:57:46 stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-225-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 09:57:47 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 09:57:58 I see. Well not to ignore Apple's work with Cocoa and Carbon, they're just so platform centric ... 09:58:12 after their market share had already headed south 09:59:15 it makes me feel like Java is platform centric then, just by way of Apple's exclusion of it on iOS- by way of the iTunes Store policies. 09:59:45 java is not platform centric, it is a platform 10:00:01 a hardware independent platform 10:00:02 Apple's done that before, lol, then they hired Steve Jobs back ;) ahhh, GP about Java 10:00:12 *JuanDaugherty* afk 10:07:00 Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has joined #lisp 10:07:58 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:08:37 Analogously, I guess Common Lisp could be said to be something of a platform, too? 10:09:03 -!- derrida [~derrida-f@unaffiliated/deleuze] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:09:42 -!- redline6561 [~redline65@li69-162.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:10:09 redline6561 [~redline65@li69-162.members.linode.com] has joined #lisp 10:12:01 -!- ArmyOfBruce [~bruce@waywardmonkeys.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 10:12:30 ArmyOfBruce [~bruce@waywardmonkeys.com] has joined #lisp 10:13:23 -!- zbigniew [~zb@3e8.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:13:40 zbigniew [~zb@3e8.org] has joined #lisp 10:14:30 -!- yan_ [~yan@64.22.109.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:14:51 derrida [~derrida-f@www.informalcode.com] has joined #lisp 10:14:51 -!- derrida [~derrida-f@www.informalcode.com] has quit [Changing host] 10:14:51 derrida [~derrida-f@unaffiliated/deleuze] has joined #lisp 10:15:34 yan_ [~yan@64.22.109.95] has joined #lisp 10:24:01 -!- am0c [~am0c@124.49.51.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:26:49 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9] 10:28:39 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-24-148-27.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:32:30 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu2.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 10:37:05 nydel [~jo@ip72-197-245-1.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 10:37:28 -!- nydel [~jo@ip72-197-245-1.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:37:49 nydel [~nydel@ip72-197-245-1.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 10:39:23 -!- kiuma_ [~kiuma@2-230-138-74.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:39:29 formatting to terminal in color is really difficult i'm finding.. in fact i haven't successfully done it yet 10:41:02 m7w [~chatzilla@178.172.204.42] has joined #lisp 10:44:37 yes, CL is a platform, not at the level of Java but prolly the biggest in its class 10:45:21 wrt to TIOBE or some similar metric 10:47:51 JuanDaugherty: TIOBE - I see. Well I wonder if one could borrow from Sun's playbook in developing Lisp as a platform post-lispm? 10:48:28 Sun's playbook in Java, I mean - and realizing, Sun also had SPARC and Solaris 10:49:11 a lot of people talk about a lisp OS here, as you'll be able to see in the logs 10:50:36 Yeah ;) 10:51:07 kiuma [~kiuma@2-230-138-74.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has joined #lisp 10:52:47 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 10:53:30 -!- Daisy [~Daisy@109.58.19.0.bredband.tre.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:54:26 -!- cibs [~cibs@219-87-142-18.static.tfn.net.tw] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:54:34 Daisy [~Daisy@109.58.19.0.bredband.tre.se] has joined #lisp 10:58:04 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-161-131.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:59:15 actually I guess TIOBE is aggregating CL and scheme as "lisp" 10:59:42 and Haskell's now in front of CL as you'd expect 11:01:49 -!- killerboy [~mateusz@217.17.38.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:03:42 Lisp loses 11:03:47 round 2 11:04:28 Haven't looked at Haskell. I recall having looked at Scheme. Lisp has SBCL and Allegro, and such, it seems to me like it may be more of a business-viable & entrepreneurially viable programming language 11:05:39 *kilon* wonders if businesses use emacs 11:07:12 Erm, could one ask Franz? ;) I expect that they'd be using ACL's IDE though 11:08:10 -!- p_nathan [~anunknown@75.87.250.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:09:03 i also wonder if those numbers from TIOBE index can be trusted much 11:09:49 objc seems very popular, and has risen very sudenly 11:09:58 -!- kiuma [~kiuma@2-230-138-74.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:10:24 suddenly because of iMania 11:10:25 nydel: http://pastebin.com/W2Yz8QKx (for illustration purposes only) 11:10:27 will go away with apple 11:12:03 certainly, though i own 2 macs , ipod touch and ipad and have not bothered to learn objc 11:12:27 i plan too though 11:12:47 to use together with lisp for tiny things like wacom tablet pressure 11:13:29 Reg, TIOBE, I think it's nice to see that there's some kind of an objective measure of programming language popularity. IMO, some more relatively subjective estimates may be affected with commercial marketing and individual opinions 11:14:04 pnpuff: this looks good, that "load" line, can i just (ql:quickload 'xcvb-driver) do you think 11:15:35 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-161-131.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 11:16:08 nydel: yes 11:16:22 killerboy [~mateusz@217.17.38.43] has joined #lisp 11:17:03 anyway (ql:system-apropos "xcvb") could be helpful. 11:17:47 pnpuff: how to load up ql in a script? 11:18:29 you only need to load xcvb-driver.asd 11:18:51 Granted, TIOBE may seem to be based on something of an ad-hoc if not post-hoc data sampling procedure - to measure popularity as a function of online search results, I suppose it may not serve to illustrate any more economically-centric details perhaps transitively affecting the same 11:18:57 oh i see 11:19:16 find it with locate :) 11:19:54 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-236-64-134.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:20:39 pnpuff: i got it to run but it just prints "-e This is red->\e[00;31mRED\e[00m" to terminal 11:20:46 *nydel* sighs 11:27:24 -!- stardiviner [~stardivin@122.236.242.123] has quit [Quit: my website: http://stardiviner.dyndns-blog.com/] 11:29:30 -!- jarmond [~jarmond@188-220-225-97.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: jarmond] 11:29:55 -!- antgreen [~user@64.56.250.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:32:35 jarmond [~jarmond@188-220-225-97.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 11:34:20 Xizor [~Xizor@c83-252-198-185.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 11:38:57 -!- jarmond [~jarmond@188-220-225-97.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: jarmond] 11:39:35 Thra11 [~thrall@96.145.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has joined #lisp 11:45:46 is there a way to make the sbcl repl under slime or otherwise use readline, etc so that I can press "up" to scroll through the command history, like in the shell or clisp? 11:49:49 gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has joined #lisp 11:50:32 shwouchk: you could do that with key bindings (in brief) in emacs - I dont't have emacs in front of me, but iirc meta-p (?) does the similar already 11:51:51 shwouchk: yeah sometime after slime-repl.el is loaded, M-p is bound onto slime-repl-previous-input 11:52:27 gimbal, I just tried and this is indeed the case 11:52:32 ...if not before. (could be auto loaded) 11:52:32 and M-n for next 11:52:39 Yeah :) 11:52:52 gimbal, and how about standard repl? 11:55:17 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.85.107] has joined #lisp 11:55:19 mrSpec [~Spec@88.208.105.6] has joined #lisp 11:55:19 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@88.208.105.6] has quit [Changing host] 11:55:19 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 11:56:31 shwouchk: oh, in the terminal? I dunno - I'd assume there might be something governing how Slime interacts with the console, but as far as readline support,haven't looked into it 11:56:39 kiuma [~kiuma@2-230-138-74.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has joined #lisp 11:57:00 Erm SBCL interacting with the console, I mean 11:57:57 nforgerit [~nforgerit@HSI-KBW-149-172-198-162.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 11:58:02 shwouchk: CLiki shows sb-readline available http://www.cliki.net/sb-readline 11:58:11 kilon_alios [~kilon@188.4.37.44.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr] has joined #lisp 11:59:02 And linedit rather http://www.cliki.net/linedit 11:59:05 apparently it is outdated in favor of http://www.cliki.net/linedit 11:59:08 yes 11:59:12 gimbal, thanks 11:59:16 -!- kilon [~kilon@unaffiliated/thekilon] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:59:18 Np ;) 11:59:25 I should search clicki more often 11:59:31 -!- echo-area [~user@123.112.69.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:52 asvil [~user@ns.osvtl.spb.ru] has 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I'm using linedit in sbcl and I get some warning errors ( http://pastebin.com/AA8Surfm ) . Some suggestion to remove these errors? anyway thanks. 18:57:49 -!- p_nathan [~anunknown@75.87.250.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:02:29 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:02:43 -!- stardiviner [~stardivin@122.236.244.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:04:01 stardiviner [~stardivin@122.236.244.164] has joined #lisp 19:04:14 -!- nforgerit [~nforgerit@HSI-KBW-149-172-198-162.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: nforgerit] 19:07:53 brandonz [~brandon@c-71-202-142-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:11:25 two- [~1@c-67-171-131-23.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:12:30 egnarts-ms [~smsmfk@46.98.3.28] has joined #lisp 19:15:58 user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:17:43 -!- Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has quit [Quit: (quit :reason 'sleep)] 19:17:54 -!- pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 19:17:59 -!- Joreji_ [~thomas@vpn-eu2.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:18:00 morphling [~stefan@gssn-4d003044.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 19:20:14 is it possible to expand a type definition ? http://paste.lisp.org/+2V8D 19:22:16 not portably. why do you want to, exactly? 19:27:21 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-161-131.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:27:49 i do not really need 19:28:17 i just had a look at SERIES, and they use explicit passing of types as arguments to functions 19:28:47 (some-func '(vector t 20) ...), or something like that 19:29:12 probably i should look into the source code of SERIES to see what they do with type names 19:30:10 you should be able to do whatever you want through subtypep 19:30:55 Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 19:32:13 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 19:32:21 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu2.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 19:33:31 spiderweb [~lcc@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #lisp 19:34:06 Bike: ah, that's really a good point 19:34:21 thanks for pointinh this out 19:35:00 -!- hugod [~user@rrcs-98-101-136-2.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:36:29 kofno [~kofno@cpe-24-165-213-150.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 19:36:50 pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 19:40:35 PuercoPo` [~user@190.41.173.174] has joined #lisp 19:40:53 -!- PuercoPop [~user@190.41.173.174] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42:45 cmm- [~cmm@109.65.202.199] has joined #lisp 19:44:39 -!- cmm [~cmm@109.65.213.187] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:44:45 LiamH [~none@96.231.227.13] has joined #lisp 19:49:43 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-192-93.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:50:00 kruchkoff [~kruchkoff@90.189.0.57] has joined #lisp 19:50:13 -!- kruchkoff [~kruchkoff@90.189.0.57] has left #lisp 19:50:23 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-192-93.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 19:52:54 -!- user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:53:55 hugod [~user@rrcs-98-101-136-2.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #lisp 19:58:12 fms [~fms@70-36-138-244.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 19:58:28 -!- fms is now known as ebobby 20:00:26 -!- kilon [~kilon@unaffiliated/thekilon] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:31 -!- pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 20:00:40 pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 20:00:48 -!- pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 20:00:56 pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 20:00:57 kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has joined #lisp 20:01:17 -!- pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 20:01:18 pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 20:01:30 -!- pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 20:01:32 pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 20:01:44 -!- pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 20:01:46 pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 20:02:03 -!- pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 20:02:03 pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 20:02:14 -!- pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 20:02:14 pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 20:02:32 dkao [~dkao@EDGERTON-FOUR-THIRTEEN.MIT.EDU] has joined #lisp 20:02:40 hi 20:03:04 anybody here used lisp works before? 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21:16:11 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-192-93.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:54 and parse-stack can probably just be read-from-string 21:16:57 -!- m7w [~chatzilla@178.172.204.42] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:17:13 Bike: yea , wondering if there's some one-liner way to use lisp's reader, or if i need to split and look at each thing to turn it into a symbol or atom 21:17:30 *|3b|* would do something more like (print (setf stack (append stack (parse-stack (read-line))))) 21:18:34 derekv: You can hack it up with read-from-string and concatenate, or something like (read-from-string (format nil "(~A)" line)). 21:18:35 <|3b|> where parse-stack is (loop for x = (read-from-string line nil #1=#:foo) until (eq x #1#) collect x) 21:18:40 m7w [~chatzilla@178.172.204.42] has joined #lisp 21:19:09 <|3b|> actually, i guess that needs to save the position in the string too and pass to subsequent calls to read-from-string 21:19:25 but you really should write a loop around read-from-string and :start. 21:19:52 *|3b|* probably shouldn't try to code directly into irc 21:21:42 thanks ... shi gtg , i'll probably be back ... i'll try messing with read-from-string 21:29:43 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.85.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:32:46 vedm [~vedm@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:32:53 -!- vedm [~vedm@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 21:33:11 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:33:49 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:33:58 s0ber_ [~s0ber@114-36-241-203.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 21:34:10 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 21:34:21 vedm [~vedm@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:35:16 honkfestival [~honkfesti@68.171.71.54] has joined #lisp 21:35:17 -!- Jasko [~Jasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35:24 -!- vedm [~vedm@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 21:35:34 vedm [~vedm@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:35:42 Jasko [~Jasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:36:00 -!- vedm [~vedm@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 21:36:18 -!- s0ber [~s0ber@114-36-226-105.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:36:26 -!- s0ber_ is now known as s0ber 21:36:27 vedm [~vedm@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:36:56 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@94.27.88.130] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:36:58 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@37-145-124-88.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37:21 -!- vedm [~vedm@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 21:40:05 foreignFunction [~niksaak@94.27.88.154] has joined #lisp 21:40:34 *|3b|* wonders if i neglected to file a bug for optimization notes from (restart-case (error ...)) on sbcl 21:40:56 Joreji_ [~thomas@vpn-eu2.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 21:41:22 <|3b|> ah, guess i filed it and it just didn't get fixed yet :( 21:42:16 -!- pavelpenev [~quassel@85-130-11-8.2073813645.shumen.cablebg.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:42:28 *|3b|* should add a patch too or something 21:43:41 pavelpenev [~quassel@85-130-11-8.2073813645.shumen.cablebg.net] has joined #lisp 21:43:53 -!- honkfestival [~honkfesti@68.171.71.54] has quit [] 21:45:57 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@adsl-99-190-98-53.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:49:45 -!- xristos [~x@research.suspicious.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:50:42 -!- ebobby [~fms@70-36-138-244.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:51:35 vedm [~vedm@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:52:16 -!- m7w [~chatzilla@178.172.204.42] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:54:39 m7w [~chatzilla@178.172.204.42] has joined #lisp 21:55:39 -!- _d3f [~freedo@46.183.216.234] has quit [Quit: ~ The Gnu went back to savannah ~] 21:55:57 <|3b|> is there any way (portably or supported in sbcl) to find the function bound to a restart? 21:56:08 Slivka [~Slivka@31.40.53.196] has joined #lisp 21:57:09 -!- vedm [~vedm@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:57:12 -!- walter|r [~walter@ip-64-134-243-96.public.wayport.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:59:03 dkao [~dkao@EDGERTON-FOUR-THIRTEEN.MIT.EDU] has joined #lisp 21:59:23 <|3b|> though i guess INVOKE-RESTART would have more or less the same effect 22:00:24 hi 22:00:56 I'm unable to set breakpoints in one of my functions in lisp works (I get "No definition found"), does anybody know a work-around for this? I've tried re-evaluating the function manually 22:01:01 <|3b|> except INVOKE-RESTART is supposed to signal an error if the restart is invalid, so that might catch out of scope restarts 22:01:34 <|3b|> dkao: for a workaround, you might just add (break) to the function 22:02:57 <|3b|> (and re-evaluate the definition) 22:04:17 ynniv [~ynniv@z69-94-206-168.ips.direcpath.com] has joined #lisp 22:04:56 weird, I added (break) and re-evaluated the function but it's still not breaking 22:05:19 it breaks on the function that calls it because I was able to set a breakpoint but not the function itself 22:05:31 -!- Jasko [~Jasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:05:50 Jasko [~Jasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:07:50 <|3b|> hard to say what's wrong without more context... could be you aren't calling the function you think you are (package problems or something), or you need to re-evaluate the definition of the calling function, or you stored a literal function object somewhere 22:07:56 -!- bitonic [~user@5e09a749.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:10:38 hm, I was able to use "Thru Call" to step into the function, which serves my purposes, but doesn't explain the unbreakableness of the function.. thanks for the help though 22:11:37 walter|r [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:12:38 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 22:16:14 Forty-3 [~seana11@pool-108-45-162-198.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 22:32:41 LiamH [~none@96.231.227.13] has joined #lisp 22:32:57 -!- kilon [~kilon@unaffiliated/thekilon] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:00 -!- Jasko [~Jasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:06 jeti [~user@p548E9E44.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 22:36:38 Jasko [~Jasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:43:49 -!- ikki 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