00:00:18 it's not interesting to those who are not interested in it 00:00:30 replore_ [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #lisp 00:00:54 \/\/\/ 00:00:59 DT`: you can have NUL in C strings. "hello\0world\0!" 00:01:25 pjb you can only have one 00:01:44 its used to concatenate multiple strings into a single string 00:01:50 world is not part od the first string 00:01:56 or ratehr single array 00:03:15 mr20_: try it! 00:03:23 You can have any number of \0 in a C string. 00:03:38 pjb try to call strlen on it 00:04:01 And then tell me id \0 is part of the string 00:04:03 So what? That only proves strlen may not do what you want or need. The problem is with strlen. 00:04:10 you could say "a C string is terminated by 0; this technique is concatenating multiple independant *C-strings* into one *array*" 00:04:29 strlen is doing exactly what you need there; 00:04:33 Otherwise guys, remember, nobody forces you to (:use "COMMON-LISP") in your packages. You can very well (:use "CL-STEPPER") or some other package. 00:04:35 the missing info is , its a string of strings 00:04:56 n00b6502: you don't know, I've not documented by data structure. 00:05:03 there is no problem. Second \0 is not part of the string as defined b C standard 00:05:30 i dont know what you call it - but strlen refers to one string, not the whole array. 00:06:02 ##c is that way 00:08:10 Whats a "functor" around here. someone told me its not just what C++ says, ("an object with function call ") 00:08:17 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-125-214.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 00:08:30 is the clojure collection-acess-by-function-call making the collection a 'functor' 00:08:47 it's nothing around here. Ask the type people. 00:09:08 doesn't lisp have types :) 00:09:24 not those types. 00:09:26 n00b6502: according to wikipedia a functor is a homomorphism between cathegories. 00:10:31 or a morphism when in the category of small categories 00:13:13 mr20_: there are no strings in C. 00:13:28 mr20_: there are only pointers, to some memory area, filled with bytes. 00:13:52 pjb there is no string type. There is string data structure defined by the standard 00:14:23 mr20_: those are only figments in the imagination of C programmers, nothing real. 00:17:21 -!- tali713 [~user@c-76-17-236-129.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:17:36 strings in other langauges are figments of the compiler-writers imagination 00:20:11 Most other languages have some objects that are strings. C doesn't have that. 00:20:42 -!- replore_ [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:25:24 -!- agumonkey [~agu@249.217.72.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:32:22 tali713 [~user@c-76-17-236-129.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 00:50:51 zodiac1111 [~zodiac111@124.90.132.31] has joined #lisp 00:54:51 frx [~yhiselamu@lap.ee] has joined #lisp 00:55:08 hello. is it possible to write a (setf foo) method? 00:55:13 Yes. 00:55:39 frx: (defmethod (setf foo) (value x y z) ...) 00:55:57 nice thanks 00:56:07 (defgeneric (setf foo) (new-value some-object) (:method (new-value (self some-class))  new-value)) 00:56:27 (the same works with ordinary functions too) 00:57:27 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:04 macguges [~macguges@cpe-69-207-86-90.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 01:02:23 -!- Spaceghostc2c [u5056@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jgrhvbozclmtgtap] has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:03:26 Hi, I'm testing my new install of sbcl, and (exit) entered me into the debugger. Something must be borked with my sbcl installation, so what's my best action? 01:04:11 it's (quit) not exit 01:04:29 macguges: it's the sbcl developers who borked it. 01:04:37 (sb-ext:quit) to be sure 01:04:38 (oh) 01:04:40 on purpose. 01:04:43 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.213.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:05:05 (doh) 01:05:26 pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has joined #lisp 01:05:26 no, it's (exit) 01:05:38 macguges: exit is a new (couple months old) function. 01:05:42 quit is deprecated 01:06:09 pjb: your comment is way off 01:06:36 Try to justify not keeping both quit and exit. 01:07:09 pjb: off again, they are both present 01:07:28 Spaceghost|cloud [u5056@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nsgmqdqnxforcvpr] has joined #lisp 01:07:37 exit is a new function, sbcl developers didn't yet invent a time-machine to backport it into the past 01:07:50 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@adsl-75-37-19-235.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 01:08:11 kpreid [~kpreid@adsl-75-37-19-235.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 01:08:17 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@adsl-75-37-19-235.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:08:31 replore [~replore@flh1ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #lisp 01:08:37 kpreid [~kpreid@adsl-75-37-19-235.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 01:08:42 -!- replore [~replore@flh1ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:33 -!- ArmyOfBruce [~bmitchene@waywardmonkeys.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:11:02 ArmyOfBruce [~bmitchene@waywardmonkeys.com] has joined #lisp 01:18:27 -!- urandom__ [~user@p548A3D62.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20:25 -!- dfox [~dfox@89.177.105.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:24:30 dfox [~dfox@rei.ipv6.dfox.org] has joined #lisp 01:29:19 -!- Oxyd [~oxyd@pdpc/supporter/student/oxyd] has quit [Quit: Vanitas vanitatum et omnia vanitas.] 01:34:22 WarWeasle [~brad@c-98-223-226-42.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 01:37:23 -!- ISF [~ivan@189.61.221.122] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:39:18 -!- CampinSam [~user@24-176-98-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:39:23 ISF [~ivan@189.61.221.122] has joined #lisp 01:40:46 bsamograd [~user@d50-99-109-246.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #lisp 01:41:27 (flet ((x () (+ 1 1))) (funcall 'x)) -> undefined function x 01:41:36 Yes. 01:41:40 why is that? 01:41:47 Because x is not fbound. 01:41:58 anyway to make it fbound? 01:42:02 #'x would have worked 01:42:04 Use defun. 01:42:13 i'm writing a macro and i need to use labels 01:42:24 or flet 01:42:25 flet and labels only establish lexical bindings. 01:42:56 so is there a way to call an flet function using it's symbolic name? 01:43:05 No. 01:43:13 symbolic names are forgotten when compiling. 01:43:17 that's dissapointing 01:43:28 Just use the function object. 01:43:45 (flet ((x () (+ 1 1))) (funcall (function x))) instead of (flet ((x () (+ 1 1))) (funcall (quote x))) 01:44:01 ok, i'll see if i can rework my strategy in my macro 01:44:27 i'm building a list of all the functions i define 01:44:29 bsamograd: just use (funcall #'x) 01:44:31 (flet ((x () (+ 1 1))) (setf (symbol-function 'x) #'x) (funcall 'x)) => 2 01:44:37 What's wrong in using (function x) instead of (quote x) ? 01:44:48 bsamograd: you were just successfully confused 01:44:52 this was just a contrived example 01:45:03 i'm building a list of all of the functions i'm defining using flet 01:45:05 bsamograd see above, it works 01:45:06 symbolic names 01:45:14 No, just use the functions. 01:45:28 Or else, use gensym symbols and (setf symbol-function). 01:45:33 But there's no point. 01:45:42 use the macro to generate a mapping from symbols to functions. 01:46:01 ok, i'll try and build a list of function objects 01:46:08 that sounds doable 01:47:24 wait, i did try that before 01:47:24 CampinSam [~user@24-176-98-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #lisp 01:47:28 but i ran into problems 01:47:37 -!- lusory [~lusory@bb42-60-31-187.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:47:38 i have a list of function names that have been gensym'd 01:48:02 then I did (mapcar (lambda (f) (function f)) fnames) to try and build a list of function objects 01:48:13 Is f a function? 01:48:27 no, f is not a function, it's a function name 01:48:28 (function x) is like (quote x) but for functions. 01:48:36 No, there's no function named f. 01:48:43 yes, true 01:48:44 Try: (member 'f fnames) and see that there's none. 01:49:14 Use (mapcar 'fdefinition fnames) 01:49:27 ok, that's what i was looking for 01:50:20 but funcall and apply take symbols naming a function, and therefore all the CL functions that take functions like mapcar also take symbols naming a function, So there's no need to get back the function object once you gave it a name. 01:51:02 -!- m7w [~chatzilla@178.172.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:51:25 replore [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #lisp 01:52:00 is function a macro and fdefinition a function? 01:52:11 function is a special operator. 01:53:50 fdefinition also isn't able to find the function 01:54:03 Undefined function: #:G62629 in 0: (FDEFINITION #:G62629) 01:54:22 (let ((name (gensym))) (setf (symbol-function name) (lambda () 42)) (fdefinition name)) => # 01:54:25 works nicely here. 01:54:48 yes, but i'm using flet 01:55:01 -!- sbryant [freenode@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:55:07 or am i running into the problem of the symbols not being defined after compilation? 01:55:33 sbryant [freenode@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has joined #lisp 01:55:48 If you use flet, use function. If you want to use symbols you need to fbind them, so use (setf symbol-function). 01:56:02 oh wait, i know what i'm doing wrong 01:56:04 -!- sshirokov [sshirokov@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:56:10 getting my compilation stages mixed up 01:56:25 -!- foom [jknight@nat/google/x-fkdwcedgpenmiegf] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:56:30 -!- replore [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:57:58 is there a way to mapcar function with the function name symbols in my list? 01:57:59 foom [jknight@nat/google/x-tglrcxcevhrkfpuo] has joined #lisp 01:58:28 i'm thinking not 01:58:40 sshirokov [sshirokov@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has joined #lisp 01:58:40 so i'll probaby have to do the setf symbol-function... 01:58:54 or use scheme 01:58:59 *ducks* 01:59:02 :D 02:01:59 bsamograd: what are you really doing? 02:02:10 got it 02:02:11 can you paste the code in question? 02:02:23 stassats: i'm writing a macro called 'disorder' 02:02:31 apt name 02:02:38 it wraps a number of forms and then calls them in a random order 02:02:47 each form is turned into a function 02:02:55 the functions are collected into a list 02:03:02 and then pulled randomly from the list 02:03:12 i did it first with eval but it sucked 02:03:14 Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has joined #lisp 02:03:25 well, using functions will fit nicely 02:03:29 -!- Forty-3 [~seana11@pool-96-255-130-43.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:03:30 without symbols or anything 02:03:38 so then i tried to get the forms compiled using flet and ran into the problem of not being able to call the functions by name 02:03:52 i've got it now though using the function objects in the call list 02:04:37 i was banging my head on the keyboard trying to figure out why i couldn't funcall the flet functions though 02:04:39 thanks pjb 02:04:58 heh. i'm hearing sense on "clojure" about the idea of a macro to thread expression results along 02:05:28 bsamograd: (defmacro disoreder (&body forms) `(funcall (alexandria:random-elt (list ,@(loop for form in forms collect `(lambda () ,form)))))) 02:06:21 stassats: not a single form, all of them 02:06:39 i don't understand that remark 02:06:43 -!- kmels [~kmels@HSI-KBW-078-043-223-122.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:06:48 that looks like it only calls a single one of the forms 02:07:06 basically disorder would shuffle the forms and call them 02:07:11 all of htem 02:07:12 them 02:07:36 when does the shuffling happen? 02:07:41 at run time 02:08:09 (defmacro disoreder (&body forms) `(mapcar #'funcall (alexandria:shuffle (list ,@(loop for form in forms collect `(lambda () ,form)))))) 02:08:30 yes, that would work 02:09:15 i don't use alexandria though 02:09:17 not yet at least 02:09:21 or loop 02:09:24 -!- WarWeasle [~brad@c-98-223-226-42.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:10:16 well, you should 02:12:44 replore [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #lisp 02:13:04 introduce a lil chaos; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1vp_X1puq4 02:13:47 like i'm clicking a random video 02:14:23 it's safe-for-work 02:14:28 |-: 02:14:58 a man standing 7'5" and weighing over 500lbs 02:15:18 pirateking-_- [~piratekin@c-67-169-182-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 02:15:18 wrong channel 02:15:25 no shit. 02:15:36 rootlocus [~rootlocus@124-169-14-136.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #lisp 02:15:36 that's the point. 02:15:43 chaos. 02:16:28 the point is that you should either stop or go away 02:17:41 that is a point, indeed. 02:17:52 i'll stop. 02:17:57 -!- replore [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:20:14 ynniv [~ynniv@z69-94-206-168.ips.direcpath.com] has joined #lisp 02:26:40 -!- mr20_ [~mr@109.227.8.148] has quit [Quit: quit] 02:33:59 -!- gendl [~gendl@c-68-41-192-171.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #lisp 02:34:02 replore [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #lisp 02:38:21 -!- replore [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:45:37 -!- pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:51:22 replore_ [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #lisp 02:53:16 does this seem sensible? or should I make ret and reverse a keyword instead. the idea was to make it seem like dolist macro. (defmacro dovector ((var vector &optional ret reverse) &body body) 02:54:40 i'd just get rid of ret and use start end and from-end keywords 02:54:49 and call it do-sequence 02:56:07 http://common-lisp.net/project/sequence-iterators/#DOSEQUENCE 02:56:27 steffi_s [~marioooh@bas5-montreal28-1178024994.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 02:56:38 oh? I thought you can't mix &optional and &key in the same lambda list 02:56:54 return value in dolist is superfluous, i never use it 02:57:04 frx: well, you thought wrong 02:57:30 someone might chastise you, but you can mix them 02:58:11 just tried it. if you use keyword arguments you have to specify "optional" argument. that's not optimal 02:58:13 -!- Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:58:34 that's why you shouldn't use them 02:59:18 I guess that was the only way to make it work. :some-keyword might be a valid optional value 02:59:46 the only value of adding RET is compatibility with DOLIST and DOTIMES, but who cares about compatibility 03:00:02 true. I never use it either 03:01:43 -!- macguges [~macguges@cpe-69-207-86-90.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:03:28 -!- benny [~user@i577A754F.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:09:03 gko [~user@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 03:12:56 -!- acelent [~user@2001:690:2100:4:200:1aff:fe19:ddfc] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:19:07 acelent [~user@2001:690:2100:4:200:1aff:fe19:ddfc] has joined #lisp 03:19:16 -!- replore_ [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:23:37 replore_ [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #lisp 03:40:26 -!- ISF [~ivan@189.61.221.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:44:11 -!- rootlocus [~rootlocus@124-169-14-136.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:44:21 -!- ynniv [~ynniv@z69-94-206-168.ips.direcpath.com] has quit [Quit: ynniv] 03:46:28 SLIME isn't smart enough to properly indent macrolet with &body lambda list. but 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(read-line) then type foo 07:08:45 -!- steffi_s [~marioooh@bas5-montreal28-1178024994.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: zzzz] 07:08:48 in slime 07:08:50 hiyosi [~hiyosi@116.121.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has joined #lisp 07:11:04 -!- sbryant [freenode@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:11:04 -!- tessier [~treed@kernel-panic/copilotco] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:11:35 sbryant [freenode@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has joined #lisp 07:11:46 -!- sshirokov [sshirokov@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:12:16 sshirokov [sshirokov@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has joined #lisp 07:12:42 tessier [~treed@216.105.40.125] has joined #lisp 07:12:42 -!- tessier [~treed@216.105.40.125] has quit [Changing host] 07:12:42 tessier [~treed@kernel-panic/copilotco] has joined #lisp 07:16:33 jesusito [~user@90.165.177.41] has joined #lisp 07:18:25 frx: it freezes emacs, but ^G gets you out 07:18:56 frx: not knowing the exact details, reading from *standard-input* will probably block slime's communication channel. 07:19:00 thanks. I was trying C-c C-c and it didn't help 07:19:30 frx: C-g is emacs' abort key 07:21:53 ok good to know. always thought C-c C-c is more "forceful" in breaking things than C-g 07:22:26 replore [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #lisp 07:24:23 is this worth reporting as a bug? 07:24:44 or it's just the way it is with the way SLIME works 07:25:46 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #lisp 07:26:13 completion works in buffers while read-line blocks the repl so it looks like a bug 07:27:58 -!- Jubb [~ghost@pool-108-28-0-134.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:27:58 pnpuff [~pnpuff@gateway/tor-sasl/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 07:28:34 -!- sbryant [freenode@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:29:16 -!- sshirokov [sshirokov@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:31:14 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.56.124] has joined #lisp 07:31:14 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.56.124] has quit [Changing host] 07:31:15 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 07:31:37 sbryant [freenode@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has joined #lisp 07:31:48 sshirokov [sshirokov@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has joined #lisp 07:32:25 -!- nicdev [user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:4986] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:32:56 -!- replore [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:33:35 -!- ticking [~janpaulbu@87.253.189.132] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 07:35:37 fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-125-214.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #lisp 07:36:45 Sculptor- [~sculptor@37.244.212.61] has joined #lisp 07:36:52 -!- pnpuff [~pnpuff@gateway/tor-sasl/pnpuff] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:37:18 Is it possible to list all the slots in a class? 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08:28:35 depends on what you mean by "current state" 08:29:14 ex absurdo quodlibet :) 08:29:16 i was after functions you'd entered ideally. 08:29:54 n00b6502: not portably. it may be that your implementation does that. i use slime, and slime has a history. 08:30:45 ok googling it does seem to say 'emacs..' i'm using clisp in linux, (and just gedit to edit source files) 08:31:23 n00b6502: clisp uses readline, so maybe readline has a way to store what you've entered. but that is not what i'd call "state" 08:33:29 you mean the actual lines you types, or the functions in running lisp? Also what repl? 08:33:36 *Sculptor-* typed 08:33:59 clisp ; a dump of the function definitions as it understands them would be enough 08:34:22 -!- pnpuff [~pnpuff@gateway/tor-sasl/pnpuff] has left #lisp 08:34:38 i've a suspicion someone will suggest learning emacs 08:34:39 jjkola [~androirc@193-64-20-9-nat.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #lisp 08:34:46 google says that too. 08:35:42 *pavelpenev* suggests n00b6502 learn emacs :) 08:35:44 (do-symbols (sym) (when (fboundp sym) (print sym))) 08:36:18 -!- jesusito [~user@90.165.177.41] has left #lisp 08:36:33 interesting 08:36:46 But yeah you arent getting nearly as much out of CL by using a terminal instead of some integrated env that supports all the goodies 08:37:04 punee [~punee@213-245-106-105.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #lisp 08:37:26 sure. 08:37:34 Theres do-external/internal-symbols too 08:38:09 (the repl is fun though) 08:39:12 Theres repl too of course. A much nicer one 08:39:28 -!- ticking [~janpaulbu@87.253.189.132] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 08:39:36 n00b6502: so is the ability to jump to the definition of any symbol, on which I depend now, since I regularly stumble on libraries with little or no docs. 08:40:16 and a milion other small stuff slime gives me that make life suck less. 08:40:17 replore_ [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #lisp 08:40:31 yes the bigger the sourcebase the more value you get from an IDE 08:40:41 jumo to definitions. completion. recompiling individual functions live 08:41:03 wg1024 [~Adium@dslb-084-058-053-139.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 08:41:19 -!- wg1024 [~Adium@dslb-084-058-053-139.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:41:26 n00b6502: (if you don't know how to install it) http://www.mohiji.org/2011/01/modern-common-lisp-on-linux/ 08:41:38 Say you are rendering something in opengl. You can recompile the functions and see the changes live, without ever closing the window 08:41:54 now you're talking 08:42:22 wg1024 [~Adium@dslb-084-058-053-139.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 08:42:27 i always setup interactive shader reload for myself in c++ graphics programming 08:43:02 http://common-lisp.net/project/slime/ check out Marco Baringer's SLIME video (150MB, 55 minutes). if you have fast connection 08:43:24 I also managed to hook into closure-template-html-mode to be able to compile closure templates from emacs, using slime-eval, that was useful, instead of haveing to retype it all in the repl 08:45:17 kmels [~kmels@HSI-KBW-078-043-223-122.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 08:47:44 -!- replore_ [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:50:06 replore_ [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #lisp 08:52:51 -!- stardiviner [~stardivin@122.236.249.62] has quit [Quit: my website: http://stardiviner.dyndns-blog.com/] 08:53:50 cfy [~cfy@unaffiliated/chenfengyuan] has joined #lisp 08:54:10 -!- derrida [~derrida-f@unaffiliated/deleuze] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:54:11 -!- theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:55:46 -!- kuzary [~who@gateway/tor-sasl/kuzary] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:56:00 -!- bege [~bege@S0106001d7e5132b0.ed.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:57:28 -!- marshtopping [~book@static-50-43-23-161.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net] has left #lisp 08:58:57 derrida [~derrida-f@unaffiliated/deleuze] has joined #lisp 09:04:30 -!- Kvaks [~quassel@15.123.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:06:06 Kvaks [~quassel@15.123.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has joined #lisp 09:07:24 ticking [~janpaulbu@87.253.189.132] has joined #lisp 09:07:53 -!- replore_ [~replore@FLH1Ahd118.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09:23 theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has joined #lisp 09:11:13 killerboy [~mateusz@217.17.38.43] has joined #lisp 09:25:08 Alice3 [~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 09:28:02 -!- DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-118-10.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 09:29:23 ceti331_ [~ceti331@host81-157-102-115.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 09:30:42 -!- n00b6502 [~ceti331@host86-173-123-205.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:32:13 -!- cfy [~cfy@unaffiliated/chenfengyuan] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:35:59 -!- Sculptor- [~sculptor@37.244.212.61] has quit [Quit: quit] 09:39:56 -!- ceti331_ [~ceti331@host81-157-102-115.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:41:39 "Lisp needs more people like him who actually release software instead of blogging about its virtues." Good quote I found. :) 09:41:47 -!- ticking [~janpaulbu@87.253.189.132] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 09:45:16 lisp does not need anything, really :) - but if one thinks that it needs something, then both marketing and quality libraries are useful. 09:45:35 people do need to be convinced that writing lisp libraries is worthwhile. 09:45:56 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:46:43 relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRK_YXG6SUY 09:48:58 pavelpenev, hahaha 09:49:06 .o( ... ) 09:51:03 who is that? 09:51:55 ticking [~janpaulbu@87.253.189.132] has joined #lisp 09:52:09 -!- stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-237-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:53:19 kenny tilton 09:53:39 -!- ticking [~janpaulbu@87.253.189.132] has quit [Client Quit] 09:54:12 Awesome. :) 09:55:34 rootlocus [~rootlocus@124-169-14-136.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #lisp 10:01:24 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:04:32 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quicklisp) maintainers 10:44:23 ? 10:47:06 -!- woudshoo [~user@ironhead.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:47:58 -!- guther [guther@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-mavyetguzmrpxefl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:48:35 woudshoo [~user@ironhead.xs4all.nl] has joined #lisp 10:50:10 add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-59-65.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 10:50:24 guther [guther@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-oujyyihjuiktvtoq] has joined #lisp 10:50:28 MoALTz [~no@host-92-8-232-113.as43234.net] has joined #lisp 10:51:38 terjesb [~terjesb@ec2-54-247-167-129.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #lisp 10:52:32 pavelpenev, this is probably my favorite segment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRK_YXG6SUY#t=1m31s 10:53:38 -!- wg1024 [~Adium@dslb-084-058-053-139.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:58:31 zodiac1111 [~zodiac111@101.68.104.49] has joined #lisp 10:59:52 LaughingMan [~chatzilla@p5B0C10C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 11:06:40 eni 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a raspi into armcl. may the pointless hacking begin :) 14:22:03 (no init, no shell, just linux and lisp) 14:22:35 you're just in time, this month Lisp OSes are trendy 14:22:35 awesome! 14:22:46 stassats`: are they? 14:22:47 tracking number says i get to do the same tomorrow 14:23:16 damian [~damian@37.244.147.141] has joined #lisp 14:23:24 H4ns: yeah, #lisp has been buzzing about rewriting everything in Lisp this whole weekend 14:23:31 axion: the c kernel needs /proc be mounted, so i wrote a trivial c wrapper to do the mount 14:23:40 -!- damian is now known as Guest99333 14:23:43 H4ns: by the way, have you seen my cl-who ticket? 14:23:51 hmm 14:23:54 stassats`: gah, that must have happened yesterday, while i was in the plane. :( 14:24:06 stassats`: no. looking 14:24:29 it's just says "make a release, pretty please" 14:24:43 -!- zodiac1111 [~zodiac111@101.68.104.49] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24:50 -!- schoppenhauer [~christoph@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has quit 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library, if only i knew how to name it 14:33:25 alanpearce [~alan@home.alanpearce.co.uk] has joined #lisp 14:39:03 -!- alanpearce [~alan@home.alanpearce.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:39:28 cl-stassats-fixed-dictionary-object-store 14:39:48 You could nickname it cl-sfdos 14:40:11 ThomasH: i meant the compression bit itself, cl-stassats-fixed-dictionary-byte-pair-coder 14:40:28 the object storage is named "storage" 14:41:43 best name ever 14:42:35 stassats`: ddddone 14:43:00 Xach: i knew you would like it 14:43:23 H4ns: thanks! now let's wait until it materializes in QL 14:43:58 i also have a library named "http", a very thin wrapper around drakma 14:44:24 -!- pnpuff [~pnpuff@gateway/tor-sasl/pnpuff] has left #lisp 14:44:48 and you can write http:request instead of drakma:http-request! 14:47:26 tensorpudding [~michael@108.87.23.209] has joined #lisp 14:48:44 -!- Guest99333 [~damian@37.244.147.141] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 14:48:53 H4ns: what does it take for a release to make it to weitz.de? 14:49:22 Xach: edi has a cron job that runs once per hour i think, but i'll ping him to make sure 14:50:20 ok, thanks 14:50:26 i hope to make a new release in about 8 hours 14:50:46 hm. i should get the hunchentoot stability fixes in, too. 14:51:07 huh, that means cl-who was released just in time! 14:52:27 just in time for an undetected bug to be immortalized for a month in quicklisp! 14:53:37 Xach: well, the threading changes that the ita elders submitted months ago were quite buggy and have not been detected. can't be worse than that. 14:53:39 Xach: well, nobody tests it outside of quicklisp anyhow 14:53:58 ita elders! 14:54:29 Gah! I modified a function based on a typo in my unit test. 14:54:47 well, i do test, but i don't always update from git in time, cl-who seems to be stable to me 14:56:19 and turns out, there was already a 1.0.0 release which supposedly fixed the issue i was concerned about, but it was not present at weitz.de 15:02:17 HotJessicaBOOBS [~DESU@184.82.139.46] has joined #lisp 15:02:52 cl-who is now under ez-release [tm] control and future changes should get released more timely 15:04:07 -!- HotJessicaBOOBS [~DESU@184.82.139.46] has quit [Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 15:04:09 have you tried sexml? i like it better 15:06:54 sexml looks like yaclml. 15:08:54 how do you navigate in the repl history in lispworks? anyone? 15:09:15 Alt-p 15:09:20 previous 15:09:25 minion: memo for n00b6502: have a look at http://www.informatimago.com/develop/lisp/com/informatimago/small-cl-pgms/ibcl/index.html 15:09:25 Remembered. I'll tell n00b6502 when he/she/it next speaks. 15:09:26 Alt-n -> next 15:09:37 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.32.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:10:12 At least on Windows, don't know about Mac 15:11:11 ThomasH: does not work on the mac. 15:11:11 ThomasH: thanks anyway 15:12:12 leo2007 [~leo@182.48.111.218] has joined #lisp 15:13:40 C-c C-p ? 15:13:55 stassats`: thanks! :) 15:14:13 H4ns: you can see it menu -> Help -> Editing -> Command to Key 15:14:17 and enter History Previous 15:15:01 KingsKnighted [~quassel@c-174-52-149-13.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:15:06 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15:15 stassats`: i see. well, i wish for slime-like bindings, maybe that can be done. 15:15:29 you can use slime with lispworks! 15:15:48 damian-- [~damian@37.244.147.141] has joined #lisp 15:15:51 stassats`: i'm right now begging for a license so that i can do hunchentoot support 15:16:02 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:16:37 H4ns: have a look at http://www.informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux.html ; do the same with ccl on Raspberry Pi. You may avoid mount, since you can access the kernel mount functions from FFI. 15:17:52 pjb: no. the c kernel of ccl needs /proc mounted, but i can do the mount from there, no problem. 15:17:53 It's rather trivial 15:18:08 I oh see. 15:18:18 emacs doesn't need /proc. 15:18:42 ccl wants it both for memory map and cpu feature probing. 15:18:49 -!- gftr [~henrique@177.42.125.154] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:19:02 -!- sellout42 [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:19:55 sellout42 [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:20:48 I would patch ccl to mount /proc when it's not present. 15:21:26 i want to mount /proc and /sys anyway, so i'm not too motivated to put work into fixing that. 15:21:57 -!- tali713 [~user@c-76-17-236-129.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:22:03 On the other hand, having a separate wrapper may help other projects, perhaps other implementations also need 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Is there a library for cl already existing to do something like that? (if anyone is aware of such a package)? 17:41:45 minion: local-time 17:41:45 local-time: local-time is a library for manipulating date and time information in a semi-standard manner. http://www.cliki.net/local-time 17:42:32 I know I alreadt sone it with format before but for only one type universal to yyyy-mm-dd and it worked but probably wasn't that efficient 17:42:59 local-time worth checking ou if it has what I want. thanks 17:45:24 I think I even already have that lib as a depency for something else 17:46:46 no, I'm mistaken, what I had is simple-date-time lib 17:52:52 edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 17:55:18 -!- Yuuhi``` [benni@p5483948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:37 organixpear [~organixpe@96-42-14-128.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #lisp 18:01:35 Hello everyone. I eventually came to terms with archive_0.8 and things are going well on that front. I am working on a related section of code now. I use a plaintext file to tell the archive functions which files to add to an archive. The related but is that I would like to use cl-fad:walk directory to generate this plaintext list... 18:02:42 Lisp is good at processing sexps, not text. Use perl to process text. 18:02:51 (or snobol). 18:03:06 organixpear: go on... 18:03:11 but I can only seem to generate a file which includes newlines using print in conjuntion with walk-directory. The problem is that print prints #P with the line, princ does not. How can I get princ to write a line with a newline? 18:03:32 (princ #\newline) 18:03:41 -!- yakov [~yakov@spb.nexenta.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:04:05 pjb: There are a few good parser-generators in lisp. I much prefer using a parser generator in lisp over perl. 18:04:25 I wasn't suggesting to use perl, but to use sexps. 18:04:34 pjb, so if the content to be written is contained in variable x I would (princ x#\newline) ? 18:04:45 woudshoo [~user@ironhead.xs4all.nl] has joined #lisp 18:04:49 (progn (princ x) (princ #\newline)) 18:05:03 pjb: Ok. Agreed. 18:05:07 stardiviner [~stardivin@218.74.187.181] has joined #lisp 18:05:11 thanks 18:05:11 After than, think about what happens when x contains a #\newline and why text is bad. 18:05:26 -!- francogrex [~user@109.130.184.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05:37 print does the right thing. 18:07:10 asvil [~asvil@178.121.6.112] has joined #lisp 18:07:38 organixpear: (format t "~a~%" pathname) 18:07:46 Same bad. 18:08:04 (format t "~S~%" pathname) is good. 18:08:20 good for what? 18:08:25 Read up 18:10:07 d'oh, clsql-postgresql-socket3 still busted 18:10:09 i see nothing which explains it 18:10:29 stassats`: what's a unix pathaname? 18:10:36 s/an/n/ 18:11:11 People keep forgetting the most obvious things. 18:11:27 the most pointless things, you mean? 18:11:49 stassats`: you seem to never have used find(1) and xargs(1). 18:11:51 cryptic [~cryptic@pool-74-108-14-99.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 18:12:56 mmm 18:13:25 pnpuff: man find and wonder why there's a -print0 option. 18:13:44 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-164.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:14:14 i'm in a good autostate now, thanks but no! 18:14:24 jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-164.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 18:14:38 -!- pskosinski [~pk@czu186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: http://www.redeclipse.net -- Fast-paced online FPS] 18:15:56 besides, people who use newlines in their filenames deserve to be screwed 18:16:08 Not people. Systems. MacOSX does it. 18:16:18 Meaning: there are a lot of files with newlines in their names. 18:16:37 even better 18:16:51 WarWeasle [~brad@c-98-223-226-42.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 18:16:57 Furthermore, the discussions and advices are not restricted to pathnames. 18:17:17 -!- pnpuff [~pnpuff@gateway/tor-sasl/pnpuff] has quit [Quit: Bye.] 18:18:44 pskosinski [~pk@czu186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 18:24:06 -!- iocor [~textual@unaffiliated/iocor] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:27:34 -!- teggi [~teggi@123.20.49.227] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:28:18 -!- asvil [~asvil@178.121.6.112] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:31:19 iocor [~textual@unaffiliated/iocor] has joined #lisp 18:32:05 add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-59-65.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 18:35:07 asvil [~asvil@178.121.6.112] has joined #lisp 18:38:37 araujo [~araujo@190.73.45.171] has joined #lisp 18:38:37 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.45.171] has quit [Changing host] 18:38:38 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 18:39:20 kushal [~kdas@114.143.165.78] has joined #lisp 18:39:20 -!- kushal [~kdas@114.143.165.78] has quit [Changing host] 18:39:20 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 18:41:48 -!- vantage|2 [~vantage@109.131.101.2] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 18:47:21 -!- yrk [~user@pdpc/supporter/student/yrk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:49:07 bege [~bege@S0106001d7e5132b0.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #lisp 18:52:35 stassats`: cl-who is updated now 18:52:51 hunchentoot is no, though. need to nag edi once more 18:52:53 noT 18:53:19 i can confirm that 18:54:52 yrk [~user@c-50-133-134-220.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 18:54:57 -!- yrk [~user@c-50-133-134-220.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:54:57 yrk [~user@pdpc/supporter/student/yrk] has joined #lisp 18:55:19 mritz [~textual@cpe-66-25-166-122.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 18:57:33 -!- sellout42 [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:58:23 sellout42 [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:03:07 -!- mritz [~textual@cpe-66-25-166-122.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:03:30 -!- newcup [newcup@peruna.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:04:13 -!- Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:07:05 Nisstyre_ [~yours@bas9-hamilton14-3096717720.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 19:07:54 mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.59] has joined #lisp 19:08:11 -!- Nisstyre_ [~yours@bas9-hamilton14-3096717720.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:20 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-141-107.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:08:50 Nisstyre_ [~yours@bas9-hamilton14-3096717720.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 19:10:18 -!- organixpear [~organixpe@96-42-14-128.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:10:46 Xach: Hi, what do you think about this library? True color console CLOS based user interface library. 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20:51:50 H4ns: http://weitz.de/files/cl-who.tar.gz is an empty gzip file 20:52:00 wth? 20:52:13 it wasn't a couple of hours ago! 20:52:25 *H4ns* checks 20:52:52 I tried it on two systems, but maybe it's just me? 20:52:54 now it's 45 byte length of garbage 20:53:03 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-141-107.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:10 stassats`: it's a valid gzip file, just with nothing in it... 20:53:20 no, it is broken on edis box 20:53:23 (only) 20:53:30 i'll nag him _again_ :) 20:54:36 nag him thoroughly, a quicklisp release hangs in the balance! 20:54:46 Xach: you should've been more quicker! 20:54:55 no pressure 20:55:42 it would be kind of easier to change the authoritative source to github 20:56:11 but anyway, i nagged him, hopefully he's still on his computer 20:56:51 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-141-107.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 21:02:59 fourier [~fourier@fsf/member/fourier] has joined #lisp 21:03:27 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-141-107.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04:25 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-141-107.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 21:07:27 damian-- [~damian@37.244.147.141] has joined #lisp 21:08:37 -!- damian-- [~damian@37.244.147.141] has quit [Client Quit] 21:09:09 Thra11 [~thrall@46.208.64.159] has joined #lisp 21:12:32 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-187-245.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:17:50 Indecipherable [~Indeciphe@41.31.10.151] has joined #lisp 21:19:19 -!- ISF [~ivan@189.61.221.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:20:57 ignas [~ignas@ctv-79-132-160-221.vinita.lt] has joined #lisp 21:22:51 -!- mattrepl [~mattrepl@pool-72-66-73-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: mattrepl] 21:26:23 -!- Indecipherable [~Indeciphe@41.31.10.151] has quit [Quit: jmIrc destroyed by the OS] 21:26:32 LiamH [~healy@96.231.222.72] has joined #lisp 21:26:41 Xach: edi fixed it now 21:28:15 moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-54-65.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 21:30:04 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-141-107.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30:09 -!- pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:30:14 hi moore33 21:30:22 howdy 21:30:42 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-141-107.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 21:31:08 superflit_ [~superflit@216-160-139-168.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 21:32:00 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-141-107.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32:41 -!- superflit [~superflit@209-180-252-83.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:32:41 -!- superflit_ is now known as superflit 21:32:55 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-141-107.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 21:34:35 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:35:41 mclm [~bioh@2.92.102.29] has joined #lisp 21:36:21 moore33: is beach still in bordeaux ? 21:36:32 yes 21:38:32 -!- mclm [~bioh@2.92.102.29] has quit [Client Quit] 21:38:45 bioh [~bioh@2.92.102.29] has joined #lisp 21:38:48 -!- bioh [~bioh@2.92.102.29] has quit [Client Quit] 21:39:36 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 21:40:37 H4ns: yay 21:40:41 H4ns: and hunchentoot too? 21:41:10 Xach: there is still some version number confusion, but it should be good enough. 21:41:35 due to the cron mechanics and amazon's caching, updates take a few hours to propagate :( 21:41:49 ok 21:43:12 -!- add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-59-65.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 21:43:19 -!- kmels [~kmels@HSI-KBW-078-043-223-122.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:43:35 bioh [~bioh@2.92.102.29] has joined #lisp 21:43:45 add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-59-65.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 21:43:47 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 21:43:47 -!- bioh is now known as mclm 21:44:12 -!- Alice3 [~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 21:47:39 bobbydrake [bobbydrake@unaffiliated/bobbydrake] has joined #lisp 21:47:56 -!- mclm [~bioh@2.92.102.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:48:39 Kenjin [~josesanto@2.80.243.34] has joined #lisp 21:52:36 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:53:31 -!- Kenjin [~josesanto@2.80.243.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:55:25 Kenjin_ [~josesanto@bl19-243-34.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lisp 21:56:21 Hello 21:59:18 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:08 fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-125-214.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #lisp 22:02:53 -!- gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Quit: sleep] 22:04:04 -!- ehu [ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:04:11 -!- Kenjin_ [~josesanto@bl19-243-34.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:04:34 Kenjin_ [~josesanto@bl19-243-34.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lisp 22:04:42 -!- fasta [~xchat@xs8.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:05:58 -!- tali713` [~user@c-76-17-236-129.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:17 -!- stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-237-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:08:14 poisonarms [~poisonarm@cpe-70-116-22-88.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 22:08:21 fasta_ [~xchat@xs8.xs4all.nl] has joined #lisp 22:08:26 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-141-107.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 22:09:34 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 22:14:51 -!- pskosinski [~pk@czu186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:15:08 pskosinski [~pk@czu186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 22:17:50 so guys, you host static files at amazon? I am looking for solution to store lot of static files 22:19:39 Thra11_ [~thrall@172.246.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has joined #lisp 22:19:43 zs3 is awesome 22:22:33 -!- Thra11 [~thrall@46.208.64.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:24:17 hey thanks 22:24:28 antonv: all quicklisp archives & metadata are on amazon 22:24:52 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@82.208.57.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:27:28 does s3 require https or http may be used (to upload objects)? 22:27:46 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:50 I look where to host log files produced by cl-test-grid agents, and agents run by other people to be able to upload files to my hosting 22:29:49 Thra11 [~thrall@87.115.95.134] has joined #lisp 22:30:19 mritz [~textual@cpe-66-25-166-122.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 22:30:21 but with S3 i am affraid it would require to distribute the auth credentials together with agent 22:31:14 -!- phadthai_ is now known as phadthai 22:31:18 and if https is required, it will also require to be installed in the enviroment where agent is run 22:31:31 -!- Thra11_ [~thrall@172.246.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:31:39 -!- agumonkey [~agu@235.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:33:55 -!- add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-59-65.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 22:35:41 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-164.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:14 -!- mritz [~textual@cpe-66-25-166-122.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:36:15 -!- ignas [~ignas@ctv-79-132-160-221.vinita.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:40:18 -!- punee [~punee@213-245-106-105.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Quit: punee] 22:44:04 -!- stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:45:42 -!- pskosinski [~pk@czu186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:46:41 -!- killerboy [~mateusz@217.17.38.43] has quit [Quit: good night] 22:47:57 mritz [~textual@cpe-66-25-166-122.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 22:51:17 -!- bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable216.122-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:54:29 -!- mritz [~textual@cpe-66-25-166-122.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:56:55 -!- bobbydrake [bobbydrake@unaffiliated/bobbydrake] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:56:55 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58:02 mritz [~textual@cpe-66-25-166-122.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 22:58:54 -!- mritz [~textual@cpe-66-25-166-122.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:59:13 am0c [~am0c@124.49.51.146] has joined #lisp 22:59:46 -!- antonv [5d7d31f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.125.49.249] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:01:28 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 23:04:35 mritz [~textual@cpe-66-25-166-122.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 23:10:55 zenbalrog [~johnnyc@adsl-98-65-220-212.tys.bellsouth.net] has joined #lisp 23:13:36 dnolen [~user@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 23:15:42 GrayMagiker [~Steve@c-76-113-10-226.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:16:11 -!- Kenjin_ [~josesanto@bl19-243-34.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/] 23:16:33 -!- zenbalrog [~johnnyc@adsl-98-65-220-212.tys.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20:24 -!- guyal [~michaelmu@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: The Sleeper has Asleepen] 23:26:39 ConstantineXVI [Constantin@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:8909] has joined #lisp 23:27:05 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #lisp 23:27:42 -!- GrayMagiker [~Steve@c-76-113-10-226.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:31:33 -!- LiamH [~healy@96.231.222.72] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:31:38 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-74-244.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:33:00 kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-66-57.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 23:35:06 jfe_ [~jfe@ool-18bfe75c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 23:35:09 -!- mritz [~textual@cpe-66-25-166-122.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:36:41 -!- arbscht [~arbscht@fsf/member/arbscht] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:37:07 arbscht [~arbscht@fsf/member/arbscht] has joined #lisp 23:42:21 mritz [~textual@cpe-66-25-166-122.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 23:42:26 hi all 23:42:59 anyone here know how to access environment variables within clisp? 23:49:30 -!- iocor [~textual@unaffiliated/iocor] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:52:50 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@120.154.102.202] has joined #lisp 23:53:21 jfe_: ext:getenv 23:53:29 jfe_: it's ext:getenv everywhere except sbcl afaik 23:53:32 Most implementations have a getenv. 23:53:35 (apropos "GETENV") 23:53:48 yea, what pjb said