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You should probably not make this circular structure, without expecting other breakage. 03:03:32 leo2007 [~leo@123.114.41.77] has joined #lisp 03:05:14 Yuuhi` [benni@p5483B2CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 03:06:01 Good advice, but I'm the one defining the class, and I do want the cross-reference but thereafter never to set that slot again. 03:06:29 -!- Yuuhi [benni@p5483AA5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:09:10 -!- guyal [~michaelmu@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: guyal] 03:09:31 guyal [~michaelmu@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 03:09:44 -!- brendyn [brendyn@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:65b4] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 03:12:06 zort-: ok. 03:13:48 zort- : maybe you can make a writer method, and then not export it ? 03:14:16 Export as in packages? 03:14:19 (disclaimer : i know next to nothing about module systems and encapsulation in CL) 03:14:37 that's okay, there's no module system in CL. 03:15:11 (or encapsulation) 03:15:18 that's a lie, there's closures. 03:22:54 abhinav [~abhinav@122.172.36.173] has joined #lisp 03:24:09 -!- SecretFire [~SecretFir@67-5-152-121.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:25:10 -!- LiamH [~healy@pool-74-96-13-228.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:26:59 No, it's ok to use slot-value inside a method specialized on that class. 03:27:32 (defmethod associate ((a c) (b c)) (setf (slot-value a 'other) b (slot-value b 'other) a)) 03:27:55 The situation is symetrical. 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had to introduce into an interpreter this simple 08:31:44 although by major points it's rather clean. 08:33:06 Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@175.242.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lisp 08:33:08 tcr1 [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 08:33:48 I can sort of see where those come from, so lets concentrate on things that made me curious and soapbox this channel about it 08:34:38 the block tag structure looks like a perfect place for lisp macros. 08:34:55 because the function call is simply a macro as well. 08:35:27 -!- francogrex [~user@109.130.188.214] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:35:34 Cheery: Try #lispcafe or #lisp-lab rather. 08:37:50 -!- ez2712 [506d3e82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.109.62.130] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:37:52 pjb: I'll try remember next time 08:40:40 anyway, the interpreter resembles those of lisp interpreters, but with the structure decoder as a parser. 08:41:22 Lisp interpreters are not messy. 08:42:47 kmels 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I've seen this before. Could read it again 08:55:19 And then of course, there are the sources of emacs and vim. 08:56:04 hm.. could study how those implement folding 08:56:45 -!- tcr1 [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:59:18 one more thing. 08:59:51 /nick columbo 08:59:52 ? 08:59:54 :-) 09:00:16 You think there would be some scheme/lisp environment which I could change just enough to evaluate the document trees? 09:00:37 some that'd be easy to port. 09:03:35 Common Lisp has reader macros. That allow you to parse any syntax into sexps, and if you produce lisp sexps, you can then use the lisp EVAL. 09:03:59 On the other hand Racket is able to process different languages, including some documentation "language". 09:05:40 Cheery: your questions are a little blur.. what do you mean by "evaluate the document trees"? 09:06:11 araujo [~araujo@190.73.45.171] has joined #lisp 09:06:11 -!- Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:06:12 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.45.171] has quit [Changing host] 09:06:12 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 09:06:18 mishoo: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=247 09:06:24 probably says it all. 09:06:33 Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 09:06:58 if you make an s-expression out of that tree, then any lisp will be able to evaluate it 09:07:32 that'd be bit backwards.. but maybe okay. 09:07:53 how do you store the tree anyway? 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12:02:19 not autoconf or automake? 12:02:23 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:04:36 jewel: I have extracted android-ndk-r8 on my drive, download ecl from git which contains these: android (dir), INSTALL, iOS (dir), Makefile, patches (dir), README and utils (dir) 12:04:56 within the folders even there is nothing like config files 12:04:56 -!- Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:05:32 Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 12:05:53 -!- H4ns [hans@netzhansa.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:08 i am curious about Lisp, I currently program primarily in Python which I consider quite a productive language with far less ceremony than Java/c#/c++. I am wondering what benefits there are to using something like common lisp or clojure from acore concepts/language point of view (not interested in the java interoperability or the libraries etc.) 12:08:47 -!- |42| is now known as udzinari 12:11:25 -!- impulse [~impulse@bas3-toronto48-1176313909.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:15:29 -!- DGASAU [~user@91.218.144.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:15:53 H4ns [hans@netzhansa.com] has joined #lisp 12:18:06 impulse [~impulse@bas3-toronto48-1176313909.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 12:18:09 killerboy [~mateusz@217.17.38.43] has joined #lisp 12:19:46 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:19:58 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.83.75] has joined #lisp 12:19:58 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.83.75] has quit [Changing host] 12:19:58 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 12:20:05 -!- wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-78-35-59-233.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:20:38 -!- SN0W [~SNOW@unaffiliated/sn0w] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:21:01 wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-78-35-59-233.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 12:26:44 -!- francogrex [~user@109.130.188.214] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:28:00 Patzy [~something@bro29-1-82-245-180-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 12:29:32 KingsKnighted [~quassel@c-174-52-149-13.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 12:31:07 kpreid_ [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 12:33:04 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:33:52 kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 12:35:44 -!- kpreid_ [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:36:23 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 12:36:47 -!- ticking [~janpaulbu@87.253.189.132] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:36:55 kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 12:38:33 horatio_cromwell: http://random-state.net/features-of-common-lisp.html 12:38:34 horatio_cromwell: My feeling about (Common) Lisp is that everything is first-class. So if you wanna do something at run-time that would normally be done at compile-time, you can do it. Plus you can define your own control structures. 12:43:26 Croms [~Croms@dhcp-089-098-010-207.chello.nl] has joined #lisp 12:45:41 Also, considering most implementations have a reasonable compiler you should receive a decent speed up compared to Python without losing any expressiveness, which is nice if performance is important for a particular project. 12:45:43 -!- Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-39-133.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:47:49 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:48:46 kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 12:48:51 ignas [~ignas@ctv-79-132-160-221.vinita.lt] has joined #lisp 12:52:28 -!- egnarts-ms [~smsmfk@231-32-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:54:26 ticking [~janpaulbu@87.253.189.132] has joined #lisp 12:55:48 -!- Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@175.242.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56:54 janpaulbultmann [~janpaulbu@87.253.189.132] has joined #lisp 12:59:18 francogrex [~user@109.130.188.214] has joined #lisp 12:59:33 -!- ticking [~janpaulbu@87.253.189.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:00:19 C:\ageneau\android\hello-jni\jni>C:\android-ndk-r8\ndk-build then C:/ageneau/android/hello-jni//jni/hello-jni.c:10:21: error: ecl/ecl.h: No such file or directory .... (sigh) 13:00:32 now where is that bottle of vodka ? 13:04:11 ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 13:07:21 Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@175.242.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lisp 13:12:39 nikodemus [~nikodemus@37-219-156-243.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lisp 13:13:43 kushal [~kdas@114.143.163.213] has joined #lisp 13:13:43 -!- kushal [~kdas@114.143.163.213] has quit [Changing host] 13:13:43 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 13:14:51 stardiviner [~stardivin@122.236.241.184] has joined #lisp 13:14:56 apathor [~apathor@c-24-218-104-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 13:15:13 c_arenz [~arenz@HSI-KBW-109-193-252-079.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 13:18:49 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:19:47 -!- sanjoyd [sanjoyd@unaffiliated/sanjoyd] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:21:38 -!- Axioplas1_ [~Axioplase@fortigate.kb.ecei.tohoku.ac.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:24:44 -!- gko [~user@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:25:12 -!- Oddity [~Oddity@unaffiliated/oddity] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:25:39 -!- francogrex [~user@109.130.188.214] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25:46 -!- lemoinem [~swoog@49-91-252-216.dsl.colba.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:26:08 lemoinem [~swoog@178-91-252-216.dsl.colba.net] has joined #lisp 13:29:05 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 13:39:55 -!- hitecnologys [~No_Name@178.74.86.158] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:41:50 -!- c_arenz [~arenz@HSI-KBW-109-193-252-079.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:45:16 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.113.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:45:20 -!- ignas [~ignas@ctv-79-132-160-221.vinita.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:51:43 H4ns: thanks for the berlin lisp meetup recording. 13:52:08 -!- TDJACR [~TDJACR@lilug/member/tdjacr] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:52:29 -!- drl [~lat@110.139.229.172] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:52:37 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 13:53:13 TDJACR [~TDJACR@lilug/member/tdjacr] has joined #lisp 13:53:34 Fade: you're welcome - i'm glad that it was interesting enough to bear with the bad sound quality. 13:53:56 gko [~user@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 13:54:08 once the windows were closed it was fine. at least there wasn't ground-hum in the audio track. :) 13:56:24 -!- TDJACR [~TDJACR@lilug/member/tdjacr] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:58:15 TDJACR [~TDJACR@lilug/member/tdjacr] has joined #lisp 13:59:53 -!- kenanb [kenanb@176.54.11.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:13:28 centipedefarmer [~centipede@70-58-136-215.desm.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 14:16:34 -!- Kenjin [~josesanto@bl19-250-91.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 14:17:08 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:20:15 -!- KingsKnighted [~quassel@c-174-52-149-13.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:26:09 -!- Kvaks [~quassel@15.123.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27:45 Kvaks [~quassel@15.123.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has joined #lisp 14:28:26 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:30:11 -!- [SLB] [~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:33:14 -!- Kvaks [~quassel@15.123.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34:39 Kvaks [~quassel@15.123.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has joined #lisp 14:34:52 -!- hugod [~user@76.65.142.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:35:15 is it possible to destruct a function argument ? 14:35:17 -!- Kvaks [~quassel@15.123.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36:01 hitecnologys [~No_Name@178.74.86.158] has joined #lisp 14:36:14 [SLB] [~slabua@host152-161-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 14:36:15 -!- [SLB] [~slabua@host152-161-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 14:36:15 [SLB] [~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua] has joined #lisp 14:37:12 hugod [~user@76.65.142.49] has joined #lisp 14:38:25 -!- AeroNotix [~xeno@bde31.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:38:48 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42:28 iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has joined #lisp 14:42:35 Joreji_ [~thomas@95-252.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has joined #lisp 14:44:06 Kenjin [~josesanto@bl16-75-237.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lisp 14:44:31 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 14:44:40 afaik it's not possible directly with a lambda-list, but you can do it with destructuring-bind. 14:45:21 -!- stardiviner [~stardivin@122.236.241.184] has quit [Quit: my website: http://stardiviner.dyndns-blog.com/] 14:45:43 -!- schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-004-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:46:35 -!- greaver [~jo@41.138.11.188] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:48:10 flanfl [~flanfl@cpc2-sgyl22-0-0-cust619.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 14:50:14 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:54:23 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:55:29 fantazo [~fantazo@91.119.137.254] has joined #lisp 14:55:38 -!- neoesque [~neoesque@122-116-18-21.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 14:58:42 is there a CL library for printing rfc822 timestamps? e.g. for RSS 15:00:02 -!- tcr1 [~tcr@178-83-229-138.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:01:21 nachtwandler_ [~nachtwand@p57AD79C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 15:02:02 mjonsson [~mjonsson@38.109.95.133] has joined #lisp 15:02:03 mjonsson_ [~mjonsson@38.109.95.133] has joined #lisp 15:02:10 -!- MimiEA [~Mimi@66-188-168-128.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:04:21 -!- nachtwandler [~nachtwand@p5089C034.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:05:32 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07:12 http://www.cliki.net/time 15:09:55 -!- mirTapir [vutral@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:10:07 mirTapir [vutral@thinkbase.srv.welterde.de] has joined #lisp 15:10:12 -!- scharan [~scharan@169.235.25.47] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 15:10:28 scharan [~scharan@169.235.25.47] has joined #lisp 15:10:57 so much for "Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" 15:13:15 -!- tfb [~tfb@restormel.cley.com] has quit [Quit: sleeping] 15:14:45 -!- pnq [~nick@AC812A16.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:15:46 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 15:16:42 missend. 15:17:14 Fade ? 15:17:26 comment was sent to the wrong channel. 15:17:44 oh ok 15:19:50 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.16.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:19:50 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:20:14 dreish [~dreish@minus.dreish.org] has joined #lisp 15:24:02 kami``` [~user@p57A2B21D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 15:24:11 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:24:47 -!- wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-78-35-59-233.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:26:15 -!- kami`` [~user@unaffiliated/kami-] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:29:16 Snaffu [~Snaffu@oh-69-34-16-39.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #lisp 15:30:02 -!- pnpuff [~pnpuff@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has quit [Quit: (quit)] 15:30:04 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 15:32:11 iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has joined #lisp 15:34:16 -!- Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@175.242.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Did you hear that ?] 15:36:01 -!- AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36:09 AeroNotix [~xeno@bde31.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 15:36:25 AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has joined #lisp 15:37:23 -!- Joreji_ [~thomas@95-252.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:38:13 -!- Joreji [~thomas@ht-210.humtec.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:38:26 Spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #lisp 15:40:47 francogrex [~user@109.130.188.214] has joined #lisp 15:41:33 -!- Spion_ [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:41:52 -!- apathor [~apathor@c-24-218-104-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #lisp 15:42:36 tfb [~tfb@restormel.cley.com] has joined #lisp 15:42:59 lobo_d_b [~lobo_d_b@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435] has joined #lisp 15:43:22 -!- Spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:33 -!- naiv_ [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-300-138.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:46:40 naiv [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-170-32.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 15:47:59 mrSpec [~Spec@89-68-55-121.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #lisp 15:47:59 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@89-68-55-121.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Changing host] 15:47:59 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 15:50:58 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 15:58:01 -!- tfb [~tfb@restormel.cley.com] has quit [Quit: sleeping] 15:59:19 whoa 15:59:35 oh holy shit github's 404 page is *animated* 15:59:51 oh. Wrong channel. I'm really sorry about that. 16:06:24 -!- Guthur [~user@host86-150-157-66.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07:23 antgreen [~user@70.50.66.16] has joined #lisp 16:09:08 -!- francogrex [~user@109.130.188.214] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09:47 brandonz [~brandon@c-71-202-142-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 16:10:03 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-165-250.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 16:10:36 -!- horatio_cromwell [~apexi200s@cpc10-salf5-2-0-cust242.10-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:10:59 kushal [~kdas@114.143.163.213] has joined #lisp 16:11:00 -!- kushal [~kdas@114.143.163.213] has quit [Changing host] 16:11:00 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 16:11:01 -!- sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:11:57 I was disconnected from the network right after asking my string question, so I don't know if anybody answered it (a couple of hours ago). Was anybody here around then? 16:13:11 I don't see a question from you in the last three hours, so perhaps it never got through (but my network was flaky thenish too). 16:13:35 me neither. 16:14:29 ah, ok.. I'm wondering why (cl-ppcre:split "," "Hello, World") gives me ("Hello" " World"), but 16:14:42 (cl-ppcre:split "|" "Hello| World") gives me ("H" "e" "l" "l" "o" "|" " " "W" "o" "r" "l" "d") 16:15:05 I'm trying to parse some text with "|" separators. 16:16:29 -!- brandonz [~brandon@c-71-202-142-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:16:43 Amadiro [~Amadiro@ti0021a380-dhcp0217.bb.online.no] has joined #lisp 16:17:08 Morning #lisp! I have a macrology problem that I think needs eval-when. This macro doesn't always populate the *opcodes* array when I quickload my 6502 emulator. https://github.com/redline6561/cl-6502/blob/master/src/cpu.lisp#L260 16:17:30 Can anyone explain to me why sometimes the setf to *opcodes* occurs and sometimes it doesn't? 16:17:52 antgreen: | is also the OR operator 16:18:06 antgreen: (ppcre:parse-string "|")  (:ALTERNATION :VOID :VOID) 16:18:11 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18:24 and (ppcre:parse-string "\\|")  #\| 16:18:29 billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #lisp 16:18:46 daimrod: thanks! 16:19:20 stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-226-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 16:20:11 wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-78-35-59-233.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 16:20:16 antgreen: btw you can use #\| directly. (ppcre:split #\| "Hello| World") 16:20:18 mmm... works much better. parsing an org-mode table. 16:20:42 Clearer: When the quickload uses pre-existing FASLs *opcodes* is empty. Why? 16:23:14 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:24:20 -!- centipedefarmer [~centipede@70-58-136-215.desm.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:25:18 centipedefarmer [~centipede@70-58-136-215.desm.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 16:26:27 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 16:27:09 -!- centipedefarmer [~centipede@70-58-136-215.desm.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:27:55 antgreen: you could also use split-sequence instead of cl-ppcre (which only works on single character/element separators, but is simpler) 16:32:14 pnq [~nick@AC81DCCF.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 16:33:51 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:35:05 http://paste.lisp.org/display/130104 ;; Any ideas? 16:35:06 mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.113.210] has joined #lisp 16:35:19 centipedefarmer [~centipede@70-58-136-215.desm.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 16:37:08 -!- guyal [~michaelmu@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: guyal] 16:37:20 vantage|home [~vantage@109.131.46.2] has joined #lisp 16:37:35 iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has joined #lisp 16:42:36 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@37-219-156-243.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:42:37 -!- sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:43:02 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 16:44:05 -!- jjkola [~jjkola@xdsl-83-150-83-66.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:49:08 -!- jasox_ [~jasox@178.239.26.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:49:24 jjkola [~jjkola@xdsl-83-150-83-66.nebulazone.fi] has joined #lisp 16:49:30 kpreid: thanks for tip 16:49:55 flavioribeiro [~flaviorib@177.142.160.5] has joined #lisp 16:53:20 -!- EarlGray [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:54:22 hitecnologys1 [~No_Name@46.233.208.169] has joined #lisp 16:55:32 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.114.41.77] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.1.1] 16:56:26 -!- hitecnologys [~No_Name@178.74.86.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:59:11 cddr [~user@108-89-212-211.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 16:59:12 -!- Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:59:32 Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 17:00:34 Has anyone written an sldb restart that takes emacs to the file containing the source of some error? 17:01:41 Alfr [~Unknown@e178080214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #lisp 17:02:50 -!- Alfr [~Unknown@e178080214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #lisp 17:06:32 cddr: You can press v on a stack frame in sldb to take you to that frame's source location. 17:08:11 -!- gigamonkey [~gigamonke@adsl-99-17-205-191.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: gigamonkey] 17:09:21 That's cool but it doesn't work when asdf is compiling for the first time 17:09:42 it needs some debug information. 17:09:43 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.83.75] has joined #lisp 17:13:27 I was thinking it could be a restart. Looks like we can access at least the file that asdf tried to compile. Just don't know the slime code well enough to know where to put it 17:14:42 How's it going sykopomp, I hear you're doing cool stuff with Erlang these days 17:15:01 -!- attila_lendvai is now known as Guest44269 17:15:52 It's going well. Erlang is pretty neat, and I like the workplace. 17:17:11 cddr: Are you talking about the annoying "something went wrong with compilation in this file. Too bad, so sad" thing while loading systems? 17:17:23 Indeed 17:17:40 kuzary [~who@gateway/tor-sasl/kuzary] has joined #lisp 17:17:44 Figured it might be a nice Sunday afternoon project 17:18:16 Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@175.242.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lisp 17:18:32 -!- pnq [~nick@AC81DCCF.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:18:46 That sounds like something nice to work on. Maybe stassats or someone like that has an idea about where to start. 17:18:59 -!- mjonsson [~mjonsson@38.109.95.133] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:20:08 -!- Amadiro [~Amadiro@ti0021a380-dhcp0217.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:20:15 brandonz [~brandon@c-71-202-142-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 17:20:39 ivan-kanis [~user@89.83.137.164] has joined #lisp 17:21:53 -!- Guest44269 [~attila_le@37.99.83.75] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:23:09 -!- ivan-kanis [~user@89.83.137.164] has quit [Client Quit] 17:25:27 -!- ZabaQ [~jconnors@85.207.11.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:26:35 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-165-250.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 17:30:05 yakov [~yakov@128-72-128-232.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lisp 17:30:10 -!- antgreen [~user@70.50.66.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:32:51 -!- hitecnologys1 [~No_Name@46.233.208.169] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:33:19 Joreji [~thomas@ht-210.humtec.rwth-aachen.de] has joined #lisp 17:34:42 hitecnologys1 [~No_Name@46.233.208.169] has joined #lisp 17:34:44 ZabaQ [~jconnors@85.207.11.34] has joined #lisp 17:35:25 -!- ZabaQ [~jconnors@85.207.11.34] has quit [Client Quit] 17:38:03 -!- theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:33 Kaisyu [~Kaisyu@183.109.111.212] has joined #lisp 17:46:17 pnq [~nick@ACA21C07.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 17:52:31 -!- nicdev` is now known as nicdev 17:52:37 timepilot [~timepilot@66.71.231.196] has joined #lisp 17:56:48 ikki [~ikki@189.196.123.169] has joined #lisp 17:57:29 sanjoyd [sanjoyd@nat/google/x-afhnwiufhavdbnqk] has joined #lisp 17:58:37 EarlGray [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has joined #lisp 17:58:55 -!- flavioribeiro [~flaviorib@177.142.160.5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:59:17 -!- EarlGray [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:59:50 EarlGray [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has joined #lisp 18:03:04 FreeArtMan [~fam@93.177.213.54] has joined #lisp 18:03:05 Jeanne-Kamikaze: did you mean destructure or destruct? 18:03:32 hmm 18:03:40 just pattern matching 18:03:42 Jeanne-Kamikaze: it's perfectly possible to destruct parameters. That's what non-consing functions may do. 18:03:51 Jeanne-Kamikaze: then destructuring-bind is what you want. 18:03:51 -!- Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:04 igors [~igors@177.142.176.29] has joined #lisp 18:04:07 ok thanks I don't know what that means but I'll google 18:04:11 But it doesn't do pattern matching: the list must have the structure you specify. 18:04:17 I have 5 minutes of lisp experience 18:04:22 If you want pattern matching you must use a library. 18:04:32 Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 18:04:38 clhs destructuring-bind 18:04:45 the list ? I wanna destruct a defstruct 18:04:56 Jeanne-Kamikaze: no, there's nothing for that. 18:05:03 ah ok 18:05:21 Jeanne-Kamikaze: you could write a macro define-structure that would generate the operator or data structures needed to destructure a structure. 18:05:55 Also, pattern matcher usually consider structures as atom, so no matching on their slots either. 18:06:07 -!- sanjoyd [sanjoyd@nat/google/x-afhnwiufhavdbnqk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06:18 Jeanne-Kamikaze: have a look at Qi, it may have something like that. 18:07:10 http://www.cliki.net/Qi 18:07:37 oh 18:08:09 Jeanne-Kamikaze: There's pattern matching libraries that can do that. 18:08:32 Jeanne-Kamikaze: https://github.com/m2ym/optima#structure 18:08:33 Well, without their own define-structure it's not possible in conforming code. 18:09:06 It's more of a pattern-match on an API. 18:09:37 so it's perfectly conforming. 18:09:47 Nice trick with optima, indeed. 18:09:50 the information is overwhelming at the moment :) 18:10:14 Jeanne-Kamikaze: copy-and-paste that in your ~/notes.txt file and process it later. 18:10:40 pjb: the nice part is that OPTIMA's trick also works for really any data structure you've defined a standard predicate+accessor API for. 18:11:21 Yes. Perhaps it could be extended with type predicates so that you can also select branches depending on the kind of object, like in Haskell 18:11:44 well, you have guards. 18:12:29 I do actually have a notes.txt file 18:12:45 which is full of haskell 18:12:47 Yes. 18:12:55 mv notes.txt notes.org 18:12:57 :) 18:12:57 More full of lisp and other things. 18:13:04 -rw-r--r-- 1 pjb pjb 368966 Jun 13 23:05 /home/pjb/notes.txt 18:13:05 18:13:12 But yes it's an org file. 18:13:23 -!- flanfl [~flanfl@cpc2-sgyl22-0-0-cust619.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:13:46 Guthur [~user@212.183.128.53] has joined #lisp 18:14:13 And it's one of my oldest files too. I began it when I realized on Macintosh that it was faster and easier to search some text with the text processor than with database programs. 18:14:49 Also saw it done by some Mac sales person :-) It was in 1985. 18:15:22 Well, by own very oldest file dates back 1975. 18:15:47 There's also cl-unification, though it takes a rather different approach from optima. 18:16:12 err, 1976. 18:18:29 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:19:05 cl-unificiation, cl-match, fare-matcher, optima are the ones i can name off the top of my head. 18:19:37 Maybe stuff like let+ and metabang-bind count, too? 18:19:52 Point is, there's no lack of pattern matching libraries for CL :) 18:24:54 *pinterface* has a cl-unification bias, probably due to also having a cl-unification fork and a fair amount of code extending it in new and horrifying ways. 18:25:29 pinterface: where's the code ? 18:26:09 -!- Kaisyu [~Kaisyu@183.109.111.212] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 18:27:36 Anything available for public consumption is on repo.kepibu.org ("Oh, Ducks!" extends cl-unification, cl-unification is the fork--which I really ought to see about getting merged back in at some point). 18:27:41 Oddity [~Oddity@unaffiliated/oddity] has joined #lisp 18:28:10 -!- sawjig [~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:28:46 flanfl [~flanfl@cpc2-sgyl22-0-0-cust619.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 18:29:26 -!- wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-78-35-59-233.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:30:44 sanjoyd [sanjoyd@nat/google/x-kijfeiewooffiuhm] has joined #lisp 18:30:50 -!- sanjoyd [sanjoyd@nat/google/x-kijfeiewooffiuhm] has quit [Changing host] 18:30:50 sanjoyd [sanjoyd@unaffiliated/sanjoyd] has joined #lisp 18:31:25 sawjig [~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig] has joined #lisp 18:33:34 -!- vantage|home [~vantage@109.131.46.2] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 18:35:29 -!- Snaffu [~Snaffu@oh-69-34-16-39.sta.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:36:47 -!- centipedefarmer [~centipede@70-58-136-215.desm.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:37:22 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-165-250.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:43:05 -!- ASau [~user@95-26-139-8.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:43:32 ASau [~user@128-69-157-61.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lisp 18:44:32 -!- Kenjin [~josesanto@bl16-75-237.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 18:49:37 -!- FreeArtMan [~fam@93.177.213.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:52:51 wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-78-35-59-233.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 19:00:51 *maxm* likes metabang-bind, but not other metabang stuff 19:01:48 add^_ [~add^_^@m37-2-215-241.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 19:03:11 -!- wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-78-35-59-233.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:03:55 FreeArtMan [~fam@93.177.213.54] has joined #lisp 19:04:26 wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-78-35-59-233.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 19:05:01 -!- pnq [~nick@ACA21C07.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:05:01 -!- Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:06:50 /part\ 19:06:56 -!- borkman [~user@S0106001111de1fc8.cg.shawcable.net] has left #lisp 19:07:33 /o\ 19:08:39 \o/ 19:11:39 -!- FreeArtMan [~fam@93.177.213.54] has quit [Quit: Out of this 3D] 19:12:46 -!- hitecnologys1 [~No_Name@46.233.208.169] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:14:03 Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:16:07 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:16:34 DDR_ [~chatzilla@d66-183-118-108.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #lisp 19:20:03 Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 19:25:43 Kryztof [~user@81.174.155.115] has joined #lisp 19:25:56 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-215-114-85.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:26:16 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:33:38 -!- Framedragger [~k@unaffiliated/framedragger] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:36:51 https://gist.github.com/2945513 19:37:28 Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 19:39:32 hitecnologys [~No_Name@46.233.208.169] has joined #lisp 19:41:28 -!- hitecnologys [~No_Name@46.233.208.169] has quit [Client Quit] 19:41:41 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-130-77.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 19:41:48 nauar [~Grunt@80.31.112.137] has joined #lisp 19:41:53 is it possible to rename a package when :use-ing it, to give it a shorter name for example ? 19:42:00 no 19:42:20 Jeanne-Kamikaze: "Kind of": https://github.com/3b/package-local-nicknames 19:42:51 Jeanne-Kamikaze: although if you're :use-ing a package, there's no point in renaming it, since you're just pulling in all its external symbols. :) 19:43:46 what are these package things you speak of? 19:43:49 Jeanne-Kamikaze: if it's your own project and you're willing to deal with annoying potential conflicts, you can also use rename-package portably: http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/f_rn_pkg.htm 19:44:41 ah that's cool 19:47:53 -!- timepilot [~timepilot@66.71.231.196] has quit [Quit: timepilot] 19:53:30 sabalaba [~Adium@2602:306:cfc8:8c30:bcaa:ec48:6c66:fa20] has joined #lisp 19:59:43 jasox_ [~jasox@178.239.26.130] has joined #lisp 20:03:51 -!- sabalaba [~Adium@2602:306:cfc8:8c30:bcaa:ec48:6c66:fa20] has quit [Excess Flood] 20:05:54 sabalaba [~Adium@2602:306:cfc8:8c30:bcaa:ec48:6c66:fa20] has joined #lisp 20:05:54 -!- Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:06:32 Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:07:28 tfb [~tfb@restormel.cley.com] has joined #lisp 20:07:31 -!- Joreji [~thomas@ht-210.humtec.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11:30 Strav` [~user@dsl-66-36-135-200.mtl.aei.ca] has joined #lisp 20:11:44 -!- wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-78-35-59-233.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:13:42 wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-78-35-59-233.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 20:17:28 snearch [~snearch@f053002163.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #lisp 20:21:08 -!- kanru` [~kanru@61-228-145-170.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:26:11 -!- sanjoyd [sanjoyd@unaffiliated/sanjoyd] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:27:34 Framedragger [~k@unaffiliated/framedragger] has joined #lisp 20:27:44 phf [~user@pool-173-59-90-92.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 20:28:15 Yuuhi [benni@p5483B2CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 20:28:24 -!- naiv [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-170-32.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #lisp 20:28:24 wakeup_ [~wakeup@xdsl-89-0-100-168.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 20:31:19 -!- wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-78-35-59-233.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:33:15 hefner [~hefner@c-69-255-57-56.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:34:53 i have a large (probably) non-portable sbcl codebase, that i need to make talk to cocoa. i've looked at objective-cl a while ago, but it seems dead. my two current options seem to be writing objective-c with some hooks exposed to load through cffi, or porting code to ccl. 20:35:22 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.16.131] has joined #lisp 20:35:32 there's two libs 20:35:40 one is objective-cl and the other is ? 20:35:58 oh right! 20:36:01 afaik 20:36:32 -!- ASau [~user@128-69-157-61.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:01 hmm, the other one is cl-objc, but their darcs (heh) changelog has last update 4 years ago 20:37:03 -!- lemoinem [~swoog@178-91-252-216.dsl.colba.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:37:21 ASau [~user@128-69-157-61.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lisp 20:37:31 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-16-10.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 20:37:55 hmmm 20:38:31 -!- wakeup_ [~wakeup@xdsl-89-0-100-168.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:39:19 there's jscheme 20:39:48 so yeah, i guess the question is if there's some little known, up to date github fork of objective-cl somewhere. or else if somebody knows some open source project that does some form of lisp to cocoa using sbcl 20:40:08 huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has joined #lisp 20:40:25 wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-89-0-100-168.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 20:42:50 -!- cddr [~user@108-89-212-211.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:43:14 phf: not that I know of. 20:43:22 Alfr [~Unknown@e178080214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #lisp 20:43:39 -!- Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@175.242.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Did you hear that ?] 20:43:42 it's pretty hard to write non-portable SBCL without being aware of it though. 20:44:21 portable sbcl with being aware 20:44:41 it's easy with pathnames 20:44:56 bleh why the double neg ? 20:45:11 Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@175.242.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lisp 20:46:34 ok. I'll grant you pathname (: 20:47:30 homie: think harder 20:48:11 phf: unless you use SBCL contribs, you're probably fine 20:48:50 -!- wakeup [~wakeup@xdsl-89-0-100-168.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:48:59 pkhuong: well, it's definitely non-portable, i just don't remember how much of it is there :). it's got liberal use of sb-*, alien, a few :: for what used to be unexported unix stuff.. it's not a very good code. 20:49:00 chu_ [~chu@CPE-58-169-13-80.lns2.civ.bigpond.net.au] has joined #lisp 20:49:44 -!- Cheery [~cheery@213.157.87.25] has left #lisp 20:49:47 oh 20:54:41 -!- igors [~igors@177.142.176.29] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:55:39 -!- nachtwandler_ [~nachtwand@p57AD79C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:59:20 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:26 replcated [~user@24-217-97-210.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #lisp 20:59:27 Spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #lisp 20:59:58 -!- chu_ is now known as chu 21:00:11 lemoinem [~swoog@178-91-252-216.dsl.colba.net] has joined #lisp 21:01:40 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.16.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:01:42 -!- snearch [~snearch@f053002163.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:06:56 " portable sbcl with being aware" ;; haha, i always mentally do this 21:06:56 -!- Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07:15 that sentence makes no sense. 21:07:32 Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:08:37 pkhuong, yeah, i would never say that out loud, and only makes sense in some weird way of thinking (like mine) which allows me to make sense of your sentence (which really isn't confusing but that's just my way of understanding) 21:09:00 -!- froggey [~froggey@unaffiliated/froggey] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:10:27 -!- tfb [~tfb@restormel.cley.com] has quit [Quit: sleeping] 21:10:32 froggey [~froggey@unaffiliated/froggey] has joined #lisp 21:12:05 pnq [~nick@ACA2FE3D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 21:18:25 -!- DataLinkDroid [~DataLink@CPE-138-130-128-204.lns2.cht.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:18:34 jasox [~felah@effic.me] has joined #lisp 21:19:02 -!- Alice3 [~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 21:19:52 -!- jasox_ [~jasox@178.239.26.130] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:20:39 guyal [~michaelmu@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 21:20:45 -!- stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-226-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:20:55 phf: objective-cl is not an objective-c bridge (yet) however. 21:21:23 phf: you still need a FFI to the objective-c run-time and some bridging stuff under objective-cl. 21:21:26 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:22:05 tcr1 [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:23:12 -!- nauar [~Grunt@80.31.112.137] has quit [] 21:23:47 phf: two weeks ago I tried to extract objc-bridge from ccl, but it's very intermingled with the internals of ccl. 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