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What is the difference between (let ((x 10) (y 20)) ...) and ((lambda (&optional (x 10) (y 20)) ...)) ? 09:38:08 the let form is something a person would want to read or write, the lambda form is not. 09:39:56 -!- robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 09:40:35 -!- quazimodo [~quazimodo@c27-253-100-110.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:40:36 -!- kdas_ is now known as kushal 09:40:45 -!- kushal [kdas@nat/redhat/x-gxfuavzjqrezxpmf] has quit [Changing host] 09:40:45 kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 09:41:11 <[6502]> lambda is also a block IIRC 09:42:39 kwmiebach [~kwmiebach@xdsl-87-79-111-12.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 09:43:00 rudi [~rudi@1x-193-157-252-27.uio.no] has joined #lisp 09:43:35 iocor [~textual@unaffiliated/iocor] has joined #lisp 09:43:42 Kron__ [~Kron@2.49.96.76] has joined #lisp 09:45:47 Joreji [~thomas@ht-210.humtec.rwth-aachen.de] has joined 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I am pretty new to emacs/lisp. I find myself using a linux box to help me with my daily tasks. So, for example I have a list of router/switch names and I want to grab some config from them...wondering if there was a similar program that can be written to do something like this: bash: for i in `cat routerlist`; do ping $i; done 11:03:34 H4ns: ping 11:03:41 fe[nl]ix: what's up? 11:04:09 savageCW: are you sure you are using common lisp? if you want to program in emacs lisp, #emacs is the channel for you 11:04:11 I guess if someone has the code handy, that would be great to see how the program is built...but mainly just wanting to see if this can be done? 11:04:31 savageCW: it can be done. 11:04:36 H4ns: ah ok, sorry wasn't sure...i was in emacs the other day 11:04:58 H4ns: cool, good to know. Thanks for that. will jump over to #emacs...much appreciated 11:05:09 do you know of a good place do stay in Berlin, close to the meeting venue ? 11:05:32 -!- savageCW [7340442e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.115.64.68.46] has left #lisp 11:05:33 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 11:05:58 kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 11:07:17 fe[nl]ix: there is a hostel and several hotels right here, http://www.circus-berlin.de/ - the hotel and hostel are right at opposite corners across the venue 11:07:39 cool :) 11:07:45 fe[nl]ix: then there is easy hotel and hotel amado very close. 11:07:48 -!- iocor [~textual@unaffiliated/iocor] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:08:46 fe[nl]ix: http://de.easyhotel.com/hotels/berlin.html http://www.amanogroup.de/en/hotels/amano/ 11:15:53 ignas [~ignas@office.pov.lt] has joined #lisp 11:23:24 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has quit [Quit: Must not 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16:25:25 sellout [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 16:29:40 I am trying to ssh login using lisp using this: (sb-ext:run-program "ssh" '("b@remotehost") :search t) 16:29:55 but how do i get hold of the input output streams 16:30:04 -!- kmels [~kmels@HSI-KBW-078-043-223-122.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:30:20 as i want to write the password next to login, but in emacs a window opens asking for password 16:32:10 b_: you need to pass :pty t to attach ssh's stdin/out to a pseudo-terminal 16:32:36 victor_lowther [~victor.lo@adsl-99-41-71-126.dsl.aus2tx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 16:32:49 thanks 16:34:12 -!- tcr [~tcr@178-83-229-138.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:35:23 b_: and also :wait nil 16:35:51 (sb-ext:run-program "ssh" '("andromeda") :search t :pty t :wait nil :input :stream) 16:37:10 b_: (sb-ext:run-program "ssh" '("andromeda") :search t :pty t :wait nil :input :stream :output :stream) 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17:27:52 but then sbcl gives broken pipe error on stream 17:28:18 Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 17:28:20 -!- Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 17:28:30 and i see in linux that ssh spawns and then exits 17:29:00 Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 17:29:03 -!- Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 17:31:26 maybe ssh sees no reason to live without that ssh-askpass! grrr :( 17:31:28 -!- jnbek [~jnbek@pdpc/supporter/active/jnbek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32:25 Kryztof [~user@81.174.155.115] has joined #lisp 17:32:28 Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 17:32:29 -!- Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 17:32:54 -!- ignas [~ignas@office.pov.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 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has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:26:34 pkhuong: yeah, I was thinking on how to implement that 18:27:35 ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 18:27:40 -!- teggi [~teggi@123.20.28.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:27:44 -!- McMAGIC--Copy [~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:06 p_l: actually, there's a couple either very smart or very misguided people in the FRP crowd who, IIRC, are working on merging reactive programming and concurrency. 18:30:18 McMAGIC--Copy [~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy] has joined #lisp 18:30:28 -!- Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@70.83.76.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Did you hear that ?] 18:31:29 -!- Euthydemus` [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:33:46 jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-195-178.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 18:35:16 analyze cell dependencies, recognise interdependent clusters, build lock hierarchies dynamically (so that the locking logic is itself a cell grid, basically) 18:35:42 no paradigm is mature until it's gone meta, after all 18:36:08 -!- lobo_d_b [~lobo_d_b@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:36:13 rvirding [u5943@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-umejpxdbbtdlqeie] has joined #lisp 18:36:42 pkhuong: Oh, I do know about the maniacs that did concurrent FRP on haskell 18:36:52 I've had a less handwavy picture of all that in my head once, but now I struggle to reconstruct it 18:37:15 I wasn't thinking of going *that* far 18:37:32 lobo_d_b [~lobo_d_b@181.132.160.27] has joined #lisp 18:37:32 -!- lobo_d_b [~lobo_d_b@181.132.160.27] has quit [Changing host] 18:37:32 lobo_d_b [~lobo_d_b@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435] has joined #lisp 18:37:59 *sykopomp* wonders what Cells does. 18:38:30 rather something among the lines of RCU with a field to represent 'version' of the object 18:38:34 I mean, qooxlisp, iirc, operates through threaded http request handlers. 18:38:38 sykopomp: it helps you invent problems to solve with it! 18:38:42 *stassats* wonders WWJD 18:39:00 stassats: tell you to believe? 18:39:08 cmm: aside from that. I'm just trying to point out that Cells is already used in a multithreaded context. 18:39:19 cmm: you get the same problems as STM, because the new vvalues might trigger a new code path with different (anti)dependencies. 18:39:29 sykopomp: with a big lock around it, right? 18:39:54 cmm: That is my guess, but I don't remember ever looking into the implementation to see if it even did anything at all. 18:40:14 pkhuong: yeah, figuring out how to make it all converge is the tricky part :) 18:40:16 actually, I think qooxlisp is only supported on ACL... which has big giant lock 18:40:16 borkman` [~user@S0106001111de1fc8.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #lisp 18:40:53 -!- borkman [~user@S0106001111de1fc8.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:41:17 ACL itself does?/ 18:41:20 cmm: worse than that: if you can't tell the set of locks to acquire ahead of time, you need to add deadlock handling logic. 18:41:23 NimeshNeema [u2689@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hpeqaktzhbvfrhzi] has joined #lisp 18:41:37 sykopomp: old ACL did, cpython-style. 18:41:46 delicious 18:41:59 deadlocks are "easy" to detect, at least 18:42:00 sykopomp: ACL9 won't 18:42:29 anyway, actually using qooxlisp involved enough 'wtf happened here' bugs that I really can't tell you if any of them had to do with concurrency issues. :D 18:42:37 nikodemus [~nikodemus@37-219-42-250.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lisp 18:42:50 cmm: sure, now they just have to be handled (: 18:43:07 IIRC ACL8.1 introduced the APIs and deprecated old multiprocessing, in preparation for ACL9 18:43:31 I wonder if 'Real' FRP systems are easier to debug. I just remember it being a nightmare. 18:43:53 pkhuong: shout out "oops!", lock the world, recompute everything, unlock the world? 18:44:02 and with all that internal magic, I don't see how it could get much better. 18:44:09 cmm: so you need rollback (: 18:44:17 bah 18:44:59 or you could formulate a special type system under which deadlocks are impossible. 18:45:00 is there some attempt at guaranteeing consistent reads? Because reactive programming with inconsistent values must be really awesome to work with. 18:45:55 ... for some reason I thought of parallel, concurrent, reversible prolog code 18:46:11 tbh I think reactive programming (at least cells-style) is a horrible idea. it's like JS-style callback spaghetti, squared 18:47:42 I AGREE COMPLETELY 18:47:53 caps being necessary, in this case 18:48:16 sykopomp: I hope it pays well :) 18:48:35 it was totally not worth the paycheck. 18:48:55 kenny could be lurking! 18:49:12 :3 18:49:58 p_l: can I interest you in the transactional mutex lock? 18:50:28 pkhuong: I was considering serializing operations in separate thread 18:50:50 Kron__ [~Kron@2.49.96.76] has joined #lisp 18:51:19 you probably want to protect against reads while the heap is updating itself. 18:51:20 that is, worker threads perform RCU-style operations, but do *not* commit them, instead sending the transaction to "commit thread" 18:51:34 saage [~saage@201.66.40.33] has joined #lisp 18:51:34 -!- saage [~saage@201.66.40.33] has quit [Changing host] 18:51:34 saage [~saage@unaffiliated/saage] has joined #lisp 18:51:38 p_l: and that would buy you, what, twice the speed? 18:52:10 ah, never mind, I see what you mean 18:52:28 -!- kleppari [~spa@bitbucket.is] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:52:46 an extra possibility is use of explicit multiple domains, with interactions between said domains being similarly serialized 18:53:42 so you have a sort of STM; now what would happen if the commit enters an infinite loop? or do you envision a usable formalism under which it cannot loop? 18:54:15 cmm: I'm not that good, so I'd probably leave a timeout ;) 18:54:15 -!- Kron_ [~Kron@2.49.96.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:54:31 cmm: that's not a new problem introduced by the STMy approach anyway. 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[Quit: add^_] 20:54:44 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.29.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:55:22 I have ended up with this: http://paste.lisp.org/display/129966, it seems to login but hangs on reading output :( 20:55:38 -!- ikki [~ikki@189.194.252.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:56:00 If I use pty then it needs ssh_askpass 20:56:06 b_: why isn't there a :pty t argument? 20:56:11 ok. 20:57:21 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:58:29 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-67.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:58:50 -!- stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-225-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:58:53 I attached trace to ssh process: http://paste.lisp.org/display/129966#1 21:00:13 it was doing this in a loop but cpu usage almost 0 and repl hung (no print output) and when I do ctrl c c in slime, the stack frame shows it was on (read-line .. ) call 21:00:45 pulling my hair now, wish i knew more C or ffi things :( 21:00:56 victor_lowther [~victor.lo@adsl-99-41-71-126.dsl.aus2tx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 21:01:32 C is a pretty small language. some courses on udemy. ;) 21:01:57 iocor [~textual@unaffiliated/iocor] has joined #lisp 21:02:25 -!- Alice3 [~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 21:02:42 b_: unset SSH_ASKPASSand then run with :pty t 21:03:06 fe[nl]ix: did that, no affect 21:03:28 sbcl's run-program doesn't set up pty's quite right 21:03:28 nikodemus, memo from pkhuong: that and/or CAS on word slots would be awesome for ticket spinlocks and the likes. 21:03:29 ssh_askpass unsetting seems to do nothing at all 21:03:56 ptys, even 21:04:52 i have a patch somewhere that sorts it out partially, but some OS specifics need some more love 21:04:55 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@37-219-42-250.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:05:07 minion really ought to have a timestamp on memos... 24h+ delays kind of make short memos hard to craft 21:05:22 -!- __rahul__ [~rahul@59.178.44.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:05:43 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:06:02 b_: you might want to try IOlib 21:10:39 fe[nl]ix: how..? 21:11:39 -!- edgar-rft [~me@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: No future] 21:11:40 IOlib has functionality similar to SBCL's run-program 21:11:45 I tried running bash as external program and within it ssh , same thing, hangs on readline 21:12:28 did you supply the key password ? 21:12:57 b_: you need to learn more POSIX, not more C, actually. 21:13:08 if it hangs it's because it's trying to use an encrypted key and it asks the key password 21:14:36 fe[nl]ix: dont follow, i just pushed it to its input strm like this: (format input "xxxx") ;the password 21:15:01 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:15:52 b_: ssh doesn't read stdin for the password, but /dev/tty. 21:15:53 call finish-output on that stream, it might be that it buffered the password 21:16:38 pjb: ohh, so! its hanging there while i am writing to std in 21:16:49 thats what i see in strace 21:16:50 Yep. 21:17:22 -!- sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:17:41 oh so i have no way to get to /dev/tty or do i .. 21:17:46 -!- kmels [~kmels@HSI-KBW-078-043-223-122.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:18:16 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 21:18:31 b_: you need to create a pty, hence :pty t. 21:18:56 Also, check the environment variables; man ssh and search for askpass 21:19:30 sobss with pty its gets hung on askpass , i unset it and in config files also as it says 21:19:43 b_: check the environment variables; man ssh and search for askpass 21:19:45 somehow openssh just thinks the pty is gui 21:21:14 nikodemus mentioned pty is not setup right in sbcl, but i will try this path again, atleast good to know whats going on! thanks fe[nl]ix and pjb, i will try tomorrow :) 21:21:18 flavioribeiro [~flaviorib@186.192.87.33] has joined #lisp 21:21:51 b_: if pty doesn't work right, either patch sbcl, or use iolib. 21:22:15 We need to work more on our POSIX stuff 21:23:37 -!- milanj [~milanj_@79-101-196-85.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:24:02 3rd option: learn posix,cffi and try wrap something like: http://api.libssh.org/stable/index.html 21:25:03 chu_ [~chu@CPE-58-169-13-80.lns2.civ.bigpond.net.au] has joined #lisp 21:26:39 -!- chu_ is now known as chu 21:26:48 -!- DataLinkDroid [~David@1.140.248.170] has quit [*.net *.split] 21:26:48 -!- unglue [~tristan@lvps176-28-16-172.dedicated.hosteurope.de] has quit [*.net *.split] 21:29:41 -!- faust45 [~faust45@89.22.255.54] has quit [Quit: faust45] 21:30:37 IOlib's create-process works, just tried it 21:31:52 well, I'd like to see segv's talk. 21:32:05 are the berlin lisp meetups recorded? 21:32:15 -!- apathor [~apathor@c-24-218-104-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #lisp 21:33:36 Fade: come to berlin 21:34:13 -!- lemoinem [~swoog@216.252.90.117] has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:34:14 I'll be in Paris probaby toward the end of next week, but Berlin is not on the itinerary. :) 21:34:22 lemoinem [~swoog@199.180.99.222] has joined #lisp 21:34:27 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-182-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35:17 Phoodus [~foo@wsip-68-107-217-139.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #lisp 21:35:44 -!- treyka [~treyka@85.234.199.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:36:58 Guthur [~user@212.183.128.65] has joined #lisp 21:37:42 treyka [~treyka@85.234.199.185] has joined #lisp 21:38:10 fe[nl]ix: it would take me longer to fumble around iolib, can you paste/send me your code pretty please :) 21:39:54 -!- sporous [~sporous@antispammeta/bot/irssi/sporous] has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:40:06 sporous 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I created binary repositories for the major Linux distros, otherwise you need to compile libfixposix yourself 21:44:19 -!- nha [~prefect@koln-4d0b066f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:44:32 i see libposix0 21:45:07 libfixposix0* 21:45:22 Ubuntu ? 21:45:28 yep 21:45:33 that's not good 21:45:38 oops installed it! 21:46:16 mm but it gives proper developer website: http://common-lisp.net/project/iolib/ 21:46:46 okflo [~user@91-115-85-148.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #lisp 21:46:53 it's too old 21:46:57 see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.iolib.devel/425 21:47:11 -!- antonv [5d7d31f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.125.49.249] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:47:20 kuzary [~who@gateway/tor-sasl/kuzary] has joined #lisp 21:48:53 Hi. It's been a while since I last used: Is clbuild still the commonly used way to get the latest sbcl, pprce, etc.? 21:49:31 deego: no. use quicklisp 21:50:08 quicklisp doesn't help you with getting/compiling the latest SBCL does it? 21:50:49 no 21:51:11 luis: are you using OSX ? 21:51:21 yes. 21:52:06 b_: any problem installing that repository ? 21:52:30 unglue [~tristan@lvps176-28-16-172.dedicated.hosteurope.de] has joined #lisp 21:53:16 fe[nl]ix: Thanks. OTOH, did you say right after that it doesn't help you install sbcl? I'm a bit lost. :( 21:53:24 probably me being stupid: theres no such file on my system: /etc/apt/preferences 21:53:32 b_: create it 21:54:08 -!- ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:54:10 deego: right, clbuild may only be useful for sbcl 21:54:27 jasox [~jasox@178.239.26.130] has joined #lisp 21:55:20 -!- okflo [~user@91-115-85-148.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:55:45 -!- ceti331_ [~walterlyn@host109-155-129-71.range109-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56:31 deego: it depends on your OS, you might find an up-to-date sbcl in your distro's repositories 21:56:40 Ok, thanks fe[nl]ix. 21:57:02 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:57:27 -!- flavioribeiro [~flaviorib@186.192.87.33] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58:05 fe[nl]ix: yes, taking time to update source list 21:58:21 good night everyone 21:58:36 -!- Blkt`` [~Blkt@82.84.172.197] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:58:53 b_: ok 21:59:37 W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 86C06A5F91F6EEEB 21:59:38 W: Failed to fetch http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/sionescu/DISTRO/./Sources 404 Not Found 21:59:52 even though i had replaced distro with precise :S 22:00:54 "Replace DISTRO with Debian_Squeeze, Ubuntu_Natty or Ubuntu_Oneiric". and also Ubuntu_Precise 22:01:05 -!- LiamH [~none@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:02:31 yep thats what i have done.. 22:02:43 will remove/add again 22:03:04 are you sure ? the error message suggests otherwise 22:03:38 -!- rbarraud_ [~rbarraud@125-239-196-121.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:03:57 I had used ubuntu software center gui, i had pressed OK once but I realised and changed it then did apt-get update 22:05:55 ceti331_ [~walterlyn@host109-155-129-71.range109-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 22:08:08 -!- Kron_ [~Kron@2.49.96.76] has quit [Quit: Kron awayyy!] 22:08:11 manually fixed the file, and now I get just: W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 86C06A5F91F6EEEB 22:09:04 but now it gives sudo apt-get install libfixposix 22:09:05 Reading package lists... Done 22:09:07 Building dependency tree 22:09:08 Reading state information... Done 22:09:10 E: Unable to locate package libfixposix 22:11:24 do curl http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/sionescu/Ubuntu_Precise/Release.key | apt-key add - 22:11:30 it seems to be properly configured now, but when i try install libfixposix-devel : Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe libfixposix-dev amd64 20110706.gitcf6e954-0ubuntu1 [19.3 kB] 22:12:02 apt-cache policy libfixposix-dev will show you from which repository it gets it 22:12:24 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:12:34 -!- kuzary [~who@gateway/tor-sasl/kuzary] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:04 -!- EarlGray [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:13:12 kuzary [~who@gateway/tor-sasl/kuzary] has joined #lisp 22:13:23 b_: adding the package pin as specified in the message should have done the trick 22:18:14 maybe it works now: http://paste.lisp.org/display/129966#2 22:18:44 i had to prefix sudo apt-key add - , it was erroring and I didnt notice 22:18:47 DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #lisp 22:19:16 finally 22:19:17 :) 22:19:58 phew.. i need to remove the ubuntu versions now.. sec 22:20:30 no,just update libfixposix-dev and apt will do it for you 22:20:46 Yahovah [yann@orion.pi.edu.pk] has joined #lisp 22:20:53 herbieB [~herbie@u15287329.onlinehome-server.com] has joined #lisp 22:21:36 ok, so now it says: The following NEW packages will be installed 22:21:38 libfixposix-dev libfixposix1 22:21:40 lars_t_h_ [~lars_t_h@002128245043.mbb.telenor.dk] has joined #lisp 22:21:58 ``Erik_ [~erik@pool-108-3-178-223.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 22:22:09 flip215 [~marek@unaffiliated/flip214] has joined #lisp 22:22:15 yes installed from proper!: Get:1 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/sionescu/Ubuntu_Precise/ ./ libfixposix1 0.2.2-1 [15.6 kB] 22:22:16 Subfusc_ [~Subfusc@tjenen.de] has joined #lisp 22:22:17 Get:2 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sorry, i am from java world, never had to .. :( 22:28:14 oh i have ! just checked heheh 22:28:14 aptitude install build-essentials libc-dev 22:28:57 -!- specbot [~specbot@tiger.common-lisp.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:29:06 specbot [~specbot@tiger.common-lisp.net] has joined #lisp 22:29:08 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@176.119.broadband10.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:29:16 rabite [~rabite@4chan.fm] has joined #lisp 22:29:36 -!- herbieB_ [~herbie@u15287329.onlinehome-server.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:29:36 -!- Yahovah_ [yann@orion.pi.edu.pk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:29:36 -!- lars_t_h [~lars_t_h@002128245043.mbb.telenor.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:29:36 -!- tessier [~treed@kernel-panic/copilotco] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:29:36 -!- dnm_ [~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:29:36 -!- TristamWrk [~tristamwr@bodhilinux/team/Tristam] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 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http://znc.sourceforge.net] 22:31:58 -!- slyrus_ is now known as slyrus 22:32:02 done and downloaded zip of iolib head 22:32:03 -!- lemoinem [~swoog@199.180.99.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:32:03 -!- acieroid [~acieroid@wtf.awesom.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:32:08 -!- smithzv [~smithzv@99-71-111-56.lightspeed.whtnil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 269 seconds] 22:32:14 b_: download IOlib from git and put it into quicklisp/local-projects/ 22:32:29 -!- tcr [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:32:34 -!- Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 249 seconds] 22:32:34 theBlackDragon [~dragon@213.211.140.101] has joined #lisp 22:32:39 sigjuice [~sigjuice@184-106-98-73.static.cloud-ips.com] has joined #lisp 22:32:41 doing 22:32:50 acieroid [~acieroid@wtf.awesom.eu] has joined #lisp 22:32:58 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #lisp 22:33:00 done 22:33:12 -!- schmx [~marcus@c83-254-190-169.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:33:22 now i need pushing central registry? 22:33:42 no, you should be fine 22:33:50 try loading "iolib.os" 22:34:00 _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:34:03 -!- rmarianski [~rmariansk@mail.marianski.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:34:04 stepnem [~stepnem@176.119.broadband10.iol.cz] has joined #lisp 22:34:07 -!- Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:34:48 flip215 [~marek@unaffiliated/flip214] has joined #lisp 22:34:52 boyscared [~bm3719@muze.x.rootbsd.net] has joined #lisp 22:35:19 argh: EXPORT IOLIB.BASE::CONSTANT causes name-conflicts in 22:35:21 # between the following symbols: 22:35:23 IOLIB.BASE::CONSTANT, IOLIB.SOCKETS::CONSTANT 22:35:24 [Condition of type NAME-CONFLICT] 22:35:50 b_: restart sbcl, then load it 22:36:16 Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-201-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:36:19 rdd [~rdd@c83-250-152-156.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 22:36:47 Execution of a form compiled with errors. 22:36:49 Form: 22:36:50 (DEFCTYPE TIMESPEC (STRUCT TIMESPEC)) 22:36:52 Compile-time error: 22:36:53 (during macroexpansion of (DEFCTYPE TIMESPEC ...)) 22:36:55 Unknown CFFI type: :STRUCT. 22:36:56 [Condition of type SB-INT:COMPILED-PROGRAM-ERROR] 22:37:07 b_: please use lisppaste. 22:37:19 sorry, will do 22:37:52 b_: oops, I forgot about it: you also need CFFI from git: https://github.com/cffi/cffi/zipball/master 22:38:16 lemoinem [~swoog@199.180.99.222] has joined #lisp 22:38:35 smithzv [~smithzv@99-71-111-56.lightspeed.whtnil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 22:39:10 ltriant [~ltriant@110-174-168-43.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #lisp 22:40:06 EarlGray [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has joined #lisp 22:40:16 Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 22:40:23 -!- rvirding [u5943@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-umejpxdbbtdlqeie] has quit [] 22:41:08 dwnlded, restart sbcl and same error 22:41:56 cffi-cffi-dbdbcde folder got unpacked in quicklisp local projects 22:42:30 remove iolib from dists/quicklisp/software/ 22:43:03 systemindex: http://paste.lisp.org/display/129966#3 22:43:05 ok 22:44:07 still! 22:45:02 this comes in debug options: Retry loading FASL for #. 22:45:09 Spion_ [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #lisp 22:46:43 Complete stack here: http://paste.lisp.org/display/129966#4 22:48:24 ikki [~ikki@189.194.252.87] has joined #lisp 22:48:40 -!- Spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:49:12 b_: try removing all fasls 22:49:26 ok, where do fasls live? 22:49:48 yes because it reaches error very fast now 22:50:17 ~/.cache/common-lisp/ 22:50:54 -!- killerbo1 [~mateusz@217.17.38.43] has quit [Quit: dobranoc] 22:52:15 (slot-value (asdf:find-system :cffi) 'asdf:source-file) will tell you which cffi ASDF sees 22:53:13 #P"/home/b/quicklisp/local-projects/cffi-cffi-dbdbcde/cffi.asd" 22:53:31 good 22:53:36 yahoo it passed grovel 22:53:38 lets see 22:53:41 how about :iolib.os ? 22:53:50 -!- victor_lowther [~victor.lo@adsl-99-41-71-126.dsl.aus2tx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:54:16 -!- smithzv [~smithzv@99-71-111-56.lightspeed.whtnil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:54:32 smithzv [~smithzv@99-71-111-56.lightspeed.whtnil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 22:54:37 i cant believe it, its done! 22:54:51 it gave this eror: http://paste.lisp.org/display/129966#5 , but i tried again and it worked 22:55:37 -!- DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 22:55:39 ouch 22:55:39 #P"/home/b/quicklisp/local-projects/sionescu-iolib-1574dc9/src/iolib.os.asd" 22:55:47 good 22:55:49 but its loaded now 22:55:49 awesome 22:55:59 yeahhh wooo! :D 22:56:08 -!- Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:56:16 http://paste.lisp.org/+2SA6/6 22:56:33 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 22:57:32 btw, instead of downloading the zip archive, use git 22:57:36 makes updates easier 22:57:43 Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 23:00:14 yes, i am still in svn world.. 23:00:31 its not working for me :(, it is getting hung on linux call : read(5, 23:00:41 and slime hung, no errors 23:01:08 ctrl-c-c on : (READ-LINE # NIL NIL #) 23:02:45 hmm you forgot the ~% in the first format 23:02:57 better yet, use write-line 23:03:05 tritchey [~tritchey@c-68-51-88-12.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:04:04 hi tritchey :) 23:07:12 i am cursed, it still does not work 23:07:33 -!- iocor [~textual@unaffiliated/iocor] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:08:24 -!- Spion_ [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:09:04 it is exactly same as your code, just with proper user and host and write line password 23:10:10 and it hasnt logged in even as i just logged in through shell and remote system shows last login 2 hours ago 23:11:44 If it works for you then what could be wrong.. my system maybe 64 bit 23:12:15 _3b [foobar@cpe-72-179-19-4.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 23:12:58 -!- [SLB] [~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:13:07 must sleep, really thank you :), will see tomm 23:15:01 ok, I'll look into it 23:17:33 -!- flanfl [~flanfl@cpc2-sgyl22-0-0-cust619.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18:09 -!- b_ [~chatzilla@cpc14-acto3-2-0-cust114.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0/20120601175215]] 23:19:18 lebro [~monx@ool-18bab6ce.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 23:20:09 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:23:38 -!- ignas [~ignas@ctv-79-132-160-221.vinita.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:24:17 [SLB] 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