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My first instinct is to reply "no, but IPopt shouldn't be too hard to bind" 06:37:14 NLP is too broad. 06:38:34 -!- DataLinkDroid [~David@101.169.99.110] has quit [Quit: Bye] 06:39:21 cymew [~cymew@fw01d.snowmen.se] has joined #lisp 06:40:15 basically I'm wondering if there is something similar to NLTK in python 06:41:50 mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.104.38] has joined #lisp 06:43:08 mcsontos [mcsontos@nat/redhat/x-bnhxzrjwdpokosdf] has joined #lisp 06:43:33 Ragnaroek [~chatzilla@boccacio.fh-trier.de] has joined #lisp 06:44:08 -!- treyka [~treyka@85.234.199.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:45:08 -!- leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:52:04 stlifey [~stlifey@119.121.183.27] has joined #lisp 06:52:38 pirateking-_-: AFAIK nobody did the work of gathering NLP lisp libraries in a single package. 06:53:26 pjb: Thanks. I saw this link (http://www.cliki.net/Natural%20Language%20Processing), but wasn't sure if it was definitive. 06:54:17 benny` [~benny@i577A8335.versanet.de] has joined #lisp 06:58:41 ramkrsna [ramkrsna@nat/redhat/x-vtrekkquugqdsonh] has joined #lisp 07:00:14 -!- brandonz [~brandon@c-71-202-142-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:00:31 -!- Mandus_ is now known as Mandus 07:00:54 -!- cmm [~cmm@bzq-79-182-209-72.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:03:32 -!- ski_ [~slj@c80-216-142-165.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:03:40 -!- nipra [~nipra@61.12.27.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04:10 -!- dca` [~user@178.252.127.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:05:39 nipra [~nipra@61.12.27.114] has joined #lisp 07:06:11 Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@75.Red-88-7-128.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 07:06:58 ski_ [~slj@c80-216-142-165.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 07:07:33 -!- nipra [~nipra@61.12.27.114] has quit [Client Quit] 07:07:55 KognizantKog [~user@72.168.55.98] has joined #lisp 07:10:45 -!- ltriant [~ltriant@lithium.mailguard.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:11:08 pirateking-_-: there's also http://www.cliki.net/Basic-English-Grammar 07:12:47 pjb: Thanks, this should be useful enough for me to get started. 07:13:29 kilon [~kvirc@178.59.17.196] has joined #lisp 07:14:16 pirateking-_-: obviously, there is much more NLP lisp code. Only it has not been distributed as free libraries. 07:14:41 pirateking-_-: you may have some luck searching for NLP university projects, and perhaps get access to some more lisp code? 07:15:33 fmeyer [~fmeyer@186.220.42.12] has joined #lisp 07:17:00 theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has joined #lisp 07:18:50 -!- froggey_ is now known as froggey 07:19:56 -!- mucker [~harsha@183.83.33.212] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:25:09 ivan-kanis [~user@nantes.visionobjects.com] has joined #lisp 07:25:23 mvilleneuve [~mvilleneu@LLagny-156-36-4-214.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 07:27:08 -!- Kryztof [~user@78.3.117.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:29:38 mutley89 [~mutley89@cpc1-hudd6-0-0-cust741.4-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 07:32:24 -!- Bike [~Glossina@75-175-14-176.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: sleep] 07:32:33 varjag [~eugene@122.62-97-226.bkkb.no] has joined #lisp 07:32:42 -!- tensorpudding [~michael@99.32.61.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:34:05 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gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-164-201.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:40 Hi 09:02:06 I have heap exhaustion problems when trying to install the project "lapack" with quicklisp 09:02:39 does anyone know if I should make a bug report or something ? 09:02:57 (the backtrace from ldb shows mostly the garbage collection functions) 09:03:31 KognizantKog [~user@72.168.55.98] has joined #lisp 09:03:41 -!- KognizantKog [~user@72.168.55.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04:30 (I am using sbcl btw) 09:04:35 MoALTz [~no@host-92-2-117-61.as43234.net] has joined #lisp 09:04:52 The_third_man: you might want to try and start SBCL with a larger heap (sbcl --dynamic-space-size 2GiB, for example) 09:05:06 thank you, I'll try 09:05:50 sn0rri [~sn0rri@ppp141255027101.dsl.hol.gr] has joined #lisp 09:06:51 n1tn4tsn0k [~nitnatsno@178.47.218.233] has joined #lisp 09:07:12 does not work, even with 3GiB which is my amoutn of RAM 09:07:50 it seems to be when sbcl compiles the files of the package lapack 09:08:27 -!- achiu [~achiu@ip68-96-95-213.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:08:36 I have 4GiB. It fails too with Heap exhausted during garbage collection 09:09:39 does it also fails when compiling the file dgesvd ? (which does in my case) 09:09:40 ignas [~ignas@office.pov.lt] has joined #lisp 09:09:42 KognizantKog [~user@72.168.55.98] has joined #lisp 09:10:30 yes 09:10:36 what's your sbcl version? 09:10:44 1.0.55 09:10:45 -!- DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-231.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:11:20 -!- sn0rri [~sn0rri@ppp141255027101.dsl.hol.gr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:11:26 The_third_man: It builds with --dynamic-space-size 4GiB 09:11:32 sn0rri [~sn0rri@ppp141255027101.dsl.hol.gr] has joined #lisp 09:11:33 SBCL 1.0.55 09:12:37 -!- metaphysician [~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:12:40 perhaps it would work if a few dependencies would be done on their own, with a (gc :full t) inbetween? 09:13:14 I can try, do you know how to do that ? I'm using quicklisp:quickload to install the package 09:13:22 metaphysician [~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder] has joined #lisp 09:13:41 hmmm, I get "f2cl-20120305-hg/packages/blas/daxpy.lisp" file not found 09:13:59 well, try eg. (ql:quickload :blas) 09:14:05 that's a dependency 09:14:48 package not found :( 09:14:49 any reason you want to compile these as lisp code? 09:15:14 with 1.0.56 I get the "file not found" with ~150MB RAM usage 09:15:23 I'd like to have a matrix solving library, and that was one which was on quicklisp 09:15:51 (But I guess I'll look for another one :p) 09:16:10 The_third_man: matlisp isn't in quicklisp, but I really like its interface (it has wrappers around BLAS/LAPACK), and it can bind to system library if available. 09:18:43 FreeArtMan [~fam@62.85.99.68] has joined #lisp 09:19:28 ok, I'll give it a try so :) 09:19:29 thanks again 09:19:48 It looks like the next release might fix this. It's an issue with the timing of GC calls. 09:20:41 you could also try and quickload lapack again; it'll complain about an empty fasl, and you can then use the retry restart (0). 09:21:11 that's what I did, after it failed on the first compilation, still heap exhaustion 09:21:29 you'll also need a larger heap than the default on 1.0.55. 09:22:14 -!- metaphysician [~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:22:23 I did it with 3GiB, which is my amount of ram 09:23:16 nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs78186070.pp.htv.fi] has joined #lisp 09:23:33 -!- nipra [~nipra@61.12.27.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:24:15 -!- echo-area [~user@182.92.247.2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:24:38 metaphysician [~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder] has joined #lisp 09:25:48 tfb [~tfb@92.40.198.234.threembb.co.uk] has joined #lisp 09:27:28 kiuma [~kiuma@static-217-133-17-91.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #lisp 09:29:46 -!- FreeArtMan [~fam@62.85.99.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:31:37 Skola_ [~Skola@89.184.179.185] has joined #lisp 09:31:39 Bacteria [~Bacteria@115-64-180-132.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #lisp 09:32:09 -!- metaphysician [~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:32:11 FreeArtMan [~fam@62.85.99.68] has joined #lisp 09:32:44 Hussaind [~hussain@115.124.115.71] has joined #lisp 09:34:08 -!- Hussaind [~hussain@115.124.115.71] has left #lisp 09:36:44 nipra [~nipra@61.12.27.114] has joined #lisp 09:39:04 -!- EarlGray [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:39:20 EarlGray [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has joined #lisp 09:45:57 -!- harish [harish@nat/redhat/x-hqdfwyivmzpssaei] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:47:13 Hey. I can't remember. Is there a function, like mapcar, that would give me the current element *and* the current rest of the list? 09:48:07 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-244.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:49:12 Axioplase_: nope, you can maplist and take the car/cdr by hand. 09:50:21 pkhuong: ok, good enough 09:51:16 even more generic, in fact. 09:52:00 -!- Joreji [~thomas@u-0-032.vpn.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:52:39 Tuberose [7271c584@gateway/web/freenode/ip.114.113.197.132] has joined #lisp 09:56:20 -!- neoesque [~neoesque@210.59.147.232] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 10:00:41 -!- Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@75.Red-88-7-128.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Did you hear that ?] 10:03:10 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@cl-113.waw-01.pl.sixxs.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:03:11 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #lisp 10:04:13 Joreji [~thomas@u-0-032.vpn.rwth-aachen.de] has joined #lisp 10:08:01 hi 10:09:11 am0c 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#lisp 12:24:08 -!- tfb [~tfb@92.40.198.234.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:24:18 -!- Joreji_ [~thomas@80-159.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:25:03 -!- tfb_ is now known as tfb 12:25:38 cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #lisp 12:26:28 -!- Joreji [~thomas@u-0-025.vpn.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:27:32 rurufufuss [~rurufufus@115-64-27-246.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #lisp 12:28:02 question: is there a listing somewhere of the keywords in lisp? I'm trying to make a syntax highlighter for lisp for my text editor 12:28:39 rurufufuss: lisp has no keywords 12:28:41 rurufufuss: how about getting all fbound symbols? 12:28:51 rurufufuss: (in the sense that you're using the word "keyword") 12:29:14 H4ns: ah right, what about very common words that are used almost ubiquitously? 12:29:25 flip214: hmm.. is there a listing of that then? 12:29:41 look at do-all-symbols, for example, and fboundp 12:29:52 also, can I assume that this also applies with scheme?? 12:29:56 flip214: thanks 12:29:58 rurufufuss: nothing like that either. you could want to highlight symbols from cl differently, but these are not syntactic symbols, so your hightlighting could be completely wrong. 12:29:58 for the common words - try the clhs 12:30:16 or take a look at swank's indentation hints 12:31:32 so wait, words like "let", "symbol" and "labels" is not actually a keyword? 12:31:38 rurufufuss: no 12:31:41 (looking at https://gist.github.com/nablaone/slime/blob/master/contrib/swank-indentation.lisp ) 12:32:07 -!- nipra [~nipra@61.12.27.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:32:10 rurufufuss: I meant to look at the indentation hints that are given dynamically by a swank server 12:32:12 rurufufuss: "keywords" in lisp are symbols in the :keyword package. they evaluate to themselves and start with a colon, i.e. :foo 12:33:47 rurufufuss let and labels are macros, symbol is a class 12:33:52 rurufufuss: also, there are many standard common lisp functions, LIST and STRING to name few, which are used as variable names quite commonly 12:34:05 ah right, cool thanks 12:34:45 like, (let ((list (whatever))) (do-something list)) 12:34:48 I wonder if vim/emacs have a listing of these common words 12:35:16 rurufufuss: "these common words"? i thought we made it clear that there is no such list. 12:35:45 H4ns: surely github's highlighters have a hardcoded listing for words such as "let", "labels" etc, for it to be able to highlight it as black 12:37:04 -!- Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@75.Red-88-7-128.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Did you hear that ?] 12:37:05 rurufufuss: I suggest you look at the source for their colorizer then. Lisp IDEs are usually in close contact with the Lisp environment. 12:37:07 rurufufuss: possible - but if they'd highlight the two "lists" in (let ((list (list))) ...) the same, they'd be just wrong in doing so. 12:38:01 harish [~harish@119.234.212.149] has joined #lisp 12:38:16 -!- kennyd [kennyd@93-138-82-244.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:38:27 fair enough, might be that it's not hardcoded 12:38:56 rurufufuss: what i mean to say is that in lisp, you can't look at a "word" alone to determine what it means. depending on the context, a "word" can mean several two completely different things. 12:39:06 Joreji [~thomas@u-0-025.vpn.rwth-aachen.de] has joined #lisp 12:40:29 ah, the joys of a lisp-2 ... 12:40:51 flip214: not really, you can bind LIST in scheme, too 12:40:58 rurufufuss: check the hyperspec. It has a symbol index. 12:41:03 jdz: but is it adviseable? 12:41:49 francisl [~flavoie@bas1-montreal48-1176342129.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 12:41:50 rurufufuss: but if you want to highlight symbols in an editor, you should not restrict yourself to the symbols from the CL package. User's symbols are as valid as the language symbols. You want to hilight them the same way, depending on their definitions. 12:42:07 kennyd [kennyd@93-138-210-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 12:43:29 add^_ [~add^_^@m83-185-140-170.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 12:49:55 a question about swank/slime, is there a way to get slime to *not* use #.(...) in the protocol? this makes it hard to use non-CL as a backend :-/ 12:50:35 gigamonkey [~gigamonke@adsl-76-254-19-133.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 12:51:33 ecraven: slime has a scheme backend and a R backend, so it should not be hard. 12:54:26 pjb: the problem is, most Scheme's can't use READ to read #.(+ 1 2.) for example 12:56:42 ecraven: I think riastradh once had a backend for scheme48. You can try and look at how does it. 12:57:25 I've been playing around with the existing backend for MIT/GNU Scheme, I was looking into adding presentation support. 12:58:12 anyway, it's very cool that most things work fine! 13:00:02 -!- Skola_ [~Skola@89.184.179.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:01:42 -!- francisl [~flavoie@bas1-montreal48-1176342129.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: francisl] 13:02:16 -!- varjag [~eugene@122.62-97-226.bkkb.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:02:25 Houl [~Parmi@unaffiliated/houl] has joined #lisp 13:03:02 is it possible to mix &optional and &key in a defun? 13:03:06 -!- drdo [~drdo@roach0.drdo.eu] has quit [Quit: I'm finished!] 13:03:16 dim: yes. It might not do what you expect it to. 13:03:20 yes 13:03:21 yes, but it's a bother to use such a function 13:03:27 Sure, but understand that &key destructures &rest. 13:03:43 if you want to use any key argument, the optionals become ... non-optional 13:03:46 so you would melt the &optional args into the &keys, that's more practical? 13:04:20 rudi: I had exactly that problem and though I might have missed something, thx 13:04:34 so &optional + &key => &key only 13:04:35 ok 13:04:38 You could just accept &rest, extract any leading optionals, and then use destructuring-bind to handle the keys, I guess. 13:05:00 Just understand that &key operates within the domain of &rest. 13:05:29 dim: in a nutshell: don't do it. :) 13:05:58 that's a pretty good nutshell, easy to follow :) 13:06:18 Zhivago: it looks simple to just use &key 13:06:32 all the more when you think about good defaults for &optional :) 13:08:06 and especially once you realize you're writing (doit x nil nil t :default 0) all the time now :) 13:08:27 dim: It sometimes happens that a function's &keys only make sense when you specify all &optional arguments. So it may be useful. But if keys make sense without optionals just make all of the arguments keys. 13:08:45 rudi: yeah embedding those nil in there made no sense at all 13:08:54 -!- Tuberose [7271c584@gateway/web/freenode/ip.114.113.197.132] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:08:59 naryl: ack 13:09:20 -!- Joreji [~thomas@u-0-025.vpn.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:09:39 -!- kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:14:42 xyxu [~xyxu@61.171.42.155] has joined #lisp 13:16:03 -!- lemoinem [~swoog@199.180.99.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:17:13 lemoinem [~swoog@199.180.99.246] has joined #lisp 13:17:34 francisl [~flavoie@bas1-montreal48-1176342129.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 13:17:56 hlavaty [~user@91-65-218-223-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 13:18:42 -!- francisl [~flavoie@bas1-montreal48-1176342129.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 13:19:10 -!- Bacteria [~Bacteria@115-64-180-132.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Bacteria] 13:19:18 saschakb [~saschakb@p4FEA03A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 13:21:36 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com] 13:21:59 billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #lisp 13:22:11 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs78186070.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:22:56 iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has joined #lisp 13:23:08 -!- saschakb [~saschakb@p4FEA03A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:24:14 leo2007 [~leo@123.114.36.121] has joined #lisp 13:24:52 what does a leading % in a symbol denote? 13:25:14 private. 13:25:19 dangerous. 13:25:41 it's like a color code for insects, shouting "i'm ugly and untasty, move along" 13:25:57 this author seems to name his accessor functions with % prefixes as to not export slot names too... 13:26:46 -!- kilon [~kvirc@178.59.17.196] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:27:02 can you use a ddefvar as the default value of a &key argument in a defun form? 13:27:10 yes. 13:27:16 maybe with #. so that the reader gets to see the value? 13:27:45 that would defeat the point most of the time 13:27:48 No. With #. you would have to make the value of the variable evaluated at read-time, ie. at compilation time, ie. way too soon. 13:28:08 dim: defaults are only evaluated when needed, at run time. 13:28:09 if you want a constant, use defconstant, and the compiler should be smart enough to figure it out 13:28:13 could be a valid choice too but yes, not the one I want to make here 13:28:23 ; In WORK: Undeclared free variable SLOW-TRESHOLD 13:28:23 ; In WORK: Unused lexical variable SLOW-THRESHOLD 13:28:27 then same error at runtime 13:28:32 nikodemus [~nikodemus@188-67-13-181.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lisp 13:28:35 using &key (slow-threshold *slow-treshold*) 13:28:48 ahah 13:28:50 missing an h 13:29:19 one h too many in fact 13:29:27 ok I needed to paste it to be able to see that 13:31:02 is there a trivial lib to get current system's username? 13:31:27 (first (last (pathname-directory (user-homedir-pathname)))) ;-) 13:31:47 mmm, yeah 13:32:03 Otherwise you want getuid and other posix or OS specific API. 13:32:04 if user-homedir-pathname is a given, I can see that 13:32:22 dim: the answer is "no" 13:32:38 OS specific API means it depends on the implementation and the OS, no trivial API on top 13:33:51 -!- greaver [~jo_@41.138.11.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:38:57 fartofagony [fartofagon@c-566ee155.227-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #lisp 13:39:00 hi guys 13:39:22 i just saw there are many different dialects in lisp 13:39:34 any of them considered being a scripting language 13:39:35 ? 13:39:52 Emacs Lisp 13:39:58 -!- mcsontos [mcsontos@nat/redhat/x-bnhxzrjwdpokosdf] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:40:11 scheme has been used as scripting language a lot 13:40:20 I'd use CL as a scripting language 13:40:20 even common lisp has, but to a lesser extent 13:40:53 I mean the compilation properties of the implementation I'm using I've been able to ignore successfully until now, thanks to quicklisp mostly I guess 13:40:57 autolisp is (just) a scripting language 13:41:11 there's picolisp, then, too 13:41:50 bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable151.155-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #lisp 13:42:31 fartofagony: common lisp. 13:42:38 fartofagony: I use clisp for all my scripts. 13:43:25 fartofagony: if you want to script an application, use ecl (or mkcl). Those are embeddable into applications so you can use CL to script applications. 13:43:47 -!- apathor [~apathor@c-24-218-104-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #lisp 13:44:01 i heard a lot of good things about common lisp 13:44:19 is it purely for scripting? 13:44:34 fartofagony: few people do "scripting" in CL. 13:44:40 fartofagony: it's mostly known for anything but scripting. but as we can do anything, scripting is one. 13:44:42 I heard a lot of bad things about trolls. Are they purely for ruining signal to noise ratios? 13:44:46 fartofagony: no. it is a general purpose programming language and not particularly suited for "scripting" 13:45:07 -!- ahinki [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:45:18 ahh ok :( 13:45:30 ahinki [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has joined #lisp 13:45:41 fartofagony: now you get to explain the sad face. 13:45:50 well it's very hard to find a better scripting dev env than Slime, apart from Emacs Lisp itself 13:45:55 fartofagony: this channel isn't actually about lisp in general. it's about common lisp, which is often called 'lisp' (as we are obviously superior, which is what those in #anyotherlanguage will say about their language) 13:46:13 i was interested in learning a scriptiong language. was interested in lisp before but then discovered lua and so on untill i got interested in lisp again 13:46:20 madnificent: except for #php 13:46:27 dim: i don't know, i kind-of like common lisp for scripting as well... depends on the task and the tools available 13:46:33 dim: Slime with CL is a better environment than Emacs with Emacs lisp 13:46:37 dim: IMO 13:46:53 thanks guys, going to see if lua is fun 13:46:54 H4ns: do i sense some frustration, or are you just stating the fact? :) 13:47:26 madnificent: i'm just stating the fact. people who defend php the language can't be taken seriously, but most php programmer's don't. 13:47:27 H4ns: and just to fuel a flamewar, #scheme would say the same thing! ;) 13:47:51 jdz: you lose the M-x facility to play with your code live in the runtime 13:48:12 H4ns: I've worked with genuinely talented programmers who I completely respect, who swear by PHP. 13:48:19 and fwiw, it's served them pretty damn well. 13:48:22 H4ns: you are right though, it seems like many php programmers look at their language as an unnecessary, yet currently used, evil. 13:48:31 dim: i don't quite see what you mean 13:48:51 Which is silly, when there's so many good free software and an internet to distribute it. 13:49:07 jdz: you have a more interactive runtime in elisp than in CL, that's all 13:49:10 sykopomp: i'm not saying that there are no intelligent php programmers, i'm just saying that the intelligent ones don't claim that php is a good language in the same sense that cl programmers or haskell programmers might do. 13:49:10 sykopomp: you can be talented, yet not know better. i've seen people that built wonders in microsoft access, it still wasn't the best tool for the job. 13:49:23 dim: what makes you think so? 13:49:35 jdz: having done interactive tools in elisp ;) 13:49:37 rmarianski [~rmariansk@mail.marianski.com] has joined #lisp 13:49:54 dim: is there a usabe inspector for emacs lisp? 13:49:59 dim: or a sane debugger? 13:50:00 dim: you need to learn the axiom "cl is best" 13:50:30 tritchey_ [~tritchey@c-68-51-88-12.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 13:50:41 jdz: definitely 13:50:49 H4ns: definitely :) 13:50:57 dim: every time i get an error or a problem in emacs, i run around hands in the air screaming "why is there no nice tools to actually figure out where the problem is because the backtrace is completely useless" 13:51:09 Aribe [~Aribe@82.Red-83-61-38.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 13:51:11 -!- dsp__ is now known as dsp_ 13:51:20 jdz: you also have recursive editing in elisp, as in eval/edit expressions while sitting in the debugger 13:51:30 jdz: are you trying to imply that, say, sbcl backtraces are more useful? 13:51:35 dim: i have those for CL, too, you know? 13:51:38 jdz: M-x toggle-debug-on-error 13:51:43 jdz: I don't know, no, not yet 13:52:10 H4ns: SBCL backtraces are miles more useful than those of emacs 13:52:18 I have a debug problem with CL (here, CCL) and lparallel, here 13:52:35 it's hard, maybe only because I don't know the tools 13:52:44 fartofagony: newlisp is intended for scripting. 13:52:44 -!- sn0rri [~sn0rri@ppp141255027101.dsl.hol.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:52:50 Too many arguments in call to # CLBENCH::PTEST) (Non-Global) #x30200115FC5F>: 13:52:52 jdz: i see. hm. not knowing emacs lisp backtraces, all i can say is that sbcl backtraces much less useful than what i'd hope them to be. 13:52:55 that's not helping much. 13:53:19 dim: blame the author of lparallel, who decided for you that you do not need any safety or debuggability 13:53:28 -!- tritchey [~tritchey@c-68-51-88-12.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:53:38 jdz: that could be the answer, I just don't know 13:53:52 jdz: (push :lparallel.debug *features*) and it's safe and debuggable. 13:53:57 elisp backtraces are interactive 13:53:59 or smth. May be a different feature. 13:54:06 well with toggle-debug-on-error 13:54:11 at least 13:54:32 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:54:33 naryl: no that's the right one, and should be done _before_ loading lparallel 13:54:38 well, before compiling 13:54:51 and even then, the optimization settings should be changed 13:54:53 -!- tritchey_ [~tritchey@c-68-51-88-12.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:54:57 i seem to remember 13:58:43 is there something special to do for editing files in UTF8 (using µ sign for exemple) so that QL load them correctly? 14:00:34 -!- permanente is now known as profmakx 14:00:43 -!- profmakx [~profmakx@2a01:4f8:150:3181:2::20] has quit [Changing host] 14:00:44 profmakx [~profmakx@unaffiliated/profmakx] has joined #lisp 14:00:53 -!- rudi [~rudi@1x-193-157-244-25.uio.no] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/] 14:02:51 francogrex [franco@grex.cyberspace.org] has joined #lisp 14:02:56 dim: one way is to set up your environment so that the implementation uses UTF-8 by default; I also have heard that the latest version of ASDF has support for specifying file encodings. 14:03:13 homie``` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-170-195.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 14:03:31 I pass -K utf-8 to the ccl binary when starting it 14:03:41 then I do (ql:quickload 'myproject) 14:03:53 and in the slime buffer I get garbage 14:04:13 Have a look at slime-net-coding-system, if it's still around? 14:04:16 then I C-M-x the report function that output with some utf8 in there, and run test code again, and it's ok 14:04:53 slime-net-coding-system is a variable defined in `slime.el'. Its value is iso-latin-1-unix 14:04:55 that could explain, thx 14:05:20 You'll need to recreate your slime connection after setting it, I believe. 14:05:38 -!- homie`` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-162-215.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:05:57 -!- n1tn4tsn0k [~nitnatsno@178.47.218.233] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:06:01 -!- ivan-kanis [~user@nantes.visionobjects.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:06:17 -!- joachifm_ is now known as joachifm 14:07:44 _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 14:08:14 I did, not helping :( 14:08:27 Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@75.Red-88-7-128.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 14:08:30 well at least sbcl --load on the other machine is ok 14:14:46 dekuked [~user@static-98-164-147-69.axsne.net] has joined #lisp 14:17:49 was this already talked about?: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/secure-outcomes-announces-50th-order-for-ls1100-digital-livescan-fingerprinting-system-2012-05-01 14:18:06 kushal [~kdas@114.143.163.178] has joined #lisp 14:18:07 -!- kushal [~kdas@114.143.163.178] has quit [Changing host] 14:18:07 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 14:18:51 :) 14:19:12 francisl [~flavoie@199.84.164.114] has joined #lisp 14:19:43 -!- francisl [~flavoie@199.84.164.114] has quit [Client Quit] 14:20:23 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@188-67-13-181.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:20:33 francisl [~flavoie@199.84.164.114] has joined #lisp 14:21:44 dekuked: I haven't seen that article, but the company has been talked about some on account of jack harper's eclm talk: http://blip.tv/eclm/episode-5741240 14:22:29 antgreen [~user@out-on-235.wireless.telus.com] has joined #lisp 14:26:01 Vivitron: thanks for pointing that out, looking forward to watching that after work :) 14:26:34 schoppenhauer [~christoph@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has joined #lisp 14:26:46 -!- chu [~mathew.ba@CPE-124-176-52-6.lns2.dea.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:28:38 sn0rri [~sn0rri@62.169.219.149] has joined #lisp 14:29:51 -!- tfb [~tfb@92.40.198.234.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Quit: gone] 14:29:56 dekuked: it's pretty good. 14:30:30 huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has joined #lisp 14:30:39 -!- edgar-rft [~user@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 14:31:21 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.104.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:31:38 mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.91] has joined #lisp 14:31:49 kilon [~kilon@athedsl-385379.home.otenet.gr] has joined #lisp 14:32:28 dl [~download@chpcwl01.hpc.unm.edu] has joined #lisp 14:37:24 tfb [~tfb@92.40.198.234.threembb.co.uk] has joined #lisp 14:37:49 (remove #\m "tgdsgfma" :test #'equal) but how to remove more than one character in one step? remove-if ? 14:38:34 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.114.36.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:38:45 yes, that's one way. 14:39:12 -!- ignas [~ignas@office.pov.lt] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:40:51 sykopomp: what's another way, how would you do it? 14:42:21 I think remove-if is my favorite for multiple specific characters. If it's a sequence of characters you're looking for, cl-ppcre might be a better choice. 14:42:25 regular expressions? 14:42:53 teggi_ [~teggi@113.172.56.22] has joined #lisp 14:43:04 though remove-if would likely be faster than cl-ppcre. then again, cl-ppcre is probably cleaner. 14:43:09 (remove nil "tgdsgfma" :key 'i-like-this-character) may work, too, I think? 14:43:27 -!- teggi [~teggi@113.172.56.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:43:35 madnificent: cl-ppcre is a better choice if you want to remove specific -sequences- of characters. 14:44:30 sykopomp: i didn't say i didn't agree with that, i do. 14:44:42 -!- ahinki [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0/20120425123149]] 14:44:42 madnificent: Why do you always need to argue with me geez. 14:44:47 madnificent: chill, madnificent. chill. 14:44:50 D:< 14:45:07 :P 14:45:49 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:47:53 -!- xyxu [~xyxu@61.171.42.155] has left #lisp 14:49:09 Kvaks [~kvaks@15.123.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has joined #lisp 14:50:44 Ugh. Hunchentoot-1.1.1 requires that SSL certificate files exist when creating an SSL-ACCEPTOR, not merely when starting it? 14:52:53 -!- crypto_ is now known as z0d 14:53:10 -!- z0d [~z0d@q.notresp.com] has quit [Changing host] 14:53:10 z0d [~z0d@unaffiliated/z0d] has joined #lisp 14:55:37 I'm stupid but why this doesn't work? (remove-if #'(lambda (x) (search "m" x)) "smg") 14:57:19 Because #\s is not a sequence? 14:57:30 the function gets called on characters 14:58:14 yea that's my question the function is getting called on each character 14:58:29 francogrex: try (find x "m") 14:58:30 I expected it to be called on the whole sequence 14:59:27 sykopomp: ok 14:59:32 Have a look at the documentation for REMOVE-IF. It calls the function on each ELEMENT of the sequence. 15:00:38 h... and (find x "m") is not great either it works but for my purpose I need to remove tabs and newlines ... 15:01:04 francogrex: (member x '(#\tab #\newline)) 15:02:13 sykopomp: it's annoying that you have solutions for evrything! 15:02:14 -!- Ragnaroek [~chatzilla@boccacio.fh-trier.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:02:20 and I don't ;p 15:02:33 comes with time. CL is a big language 15:02:37 ^ 15:03:20 francogrex: I only give you a solution because I hope you'll see the pattern and be able to figure it out yourself later. It's tricky to wrap your head around some of these functions at first. :) 15:04:09 -!- mucker [~harsha@202.65.155.202] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:05:09 -!- cymew [~cymew@fw01d.snowmen.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:05:16 S11001001 [~sirian@gw1.mcgraw-hill.com] has joined #lisp 15:05:25 -!- S11001001 [~sirian@gw1.mcgraw-hill.com] has quit [Changing host] 15:05:25 S11001001 [~sirian@fsf/member/S11001001] has joined #lisp 15:08:22 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:12:27 ISF [~ivan@143.106.196.59] has joined #lisp 15:12:46 -!- Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@75.Red-88-7-128.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Did you hear that ?] 15:13:12 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92-249-130-108.digikabel.hu] has joined #lisp 15:13:12 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92-249-130-108.digikabel.hu] has quit [Changing host] 15:13:13 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 15:14:44 Kryztof [~user@78-3-117-144.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 15:17:11 ysph [~user@mobile-166-147-114-144.mycingular.net] has joined #lisp 15:17:27 i recall using a library which allowed to load certain code when two asd systems were loaded together. it allowed to include code if/when anoter package was included. i can work around it with #+swank in my case, but it'd be nicer to do it correctly. 15:18:04 asdf-system-connections or something like that? Not sure if it works with or has been subsumed by modern ASDF. 15:18:43 nyef: yup, that's the one. tanks! 15:18:45 madnificent: never never never use asdf-system-connections 15:18:57 asdf-system-connections and "correctly" don't go together 15:18:59 fe[nl]ix: tell me more 15:20:47 there are ordering problems 15:21:00 I'll blog about it 15:21:19 -!- francogrex [franco@grex.cyberspace.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:21:30 -!- samebchase [samuel@pi.nipl.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:21:35 brandonz [~brandon@c-71-202-142-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:21:44 fe[nl]ix: is there an alternative? 15:22:25 samebchase [~samuel@pi.nipl.net] has joined #lisp 15:22:53 I keep trying to understand asdf, and it's really hard for me to grasp certain parts of it. I'm just wondering, what features is asdf missing/implemented in a counter-intuitive manner? I think if I have a clearer idea of "don't think you can easily do blah" would be helpful 15:24:24 madnificent: no. better not to use auto-loading 15:27:38 madnificent: or, if you're willing to deal with the brokenness, put it into your personal code but never into a public library 15:28:58 -!- jdz [~jdz@193.206.22.97] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:30:53 fe[nl]ix: in some cases there is axtra functionality to give when users have more than one library loaded. how should we cope with that then? it seems like something obvious to use 15:31:19 make another system for that functionality 15:31:28 foo+bar.asd 15:31:43 that's too ugly 15:31:45 too 15:31:46 to 15:32:12 it's the only way to do it right currently 15:32:23 mucker [~harsha@183.83.33.212] has joined #lisp 15:33:03 perhaps asdf should offer some kind of mechanism for it? 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is it able to publish static files? 15:42:48 rvrebane [~rvrebane@213-168-31-153-dsl.medium.estpak.ee] has joined #lisp 15:43:18 -!- Tristam [~Tristam@bodhilinux/team/Tristam] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:44:42 dim: iirc, it does have a directory dispatcher, and i'm sure it has a directory and folder dispatcher 15:46:10 -!- mucker [~harsha@183.83.33.212] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:46:21 mucker [~harsha@183.83.33.212] has joined #lisp 15:46:38 *folder dispatcher and folder and file dispatcher 15:46:55 is http://weitz.de/hunchentoot/#start the right docs to read? 15:47:12 -!- mucker [~harsha@183.83.33.212] has quit [Client Quit] 15:47:57 mucker [~mucker@183.83.33.212] has joined #lisp 15:48:22 francogrex [franco@grex.cyberspace.org] has joined #lisp 15:48:32 gniourf_gniourf [~Gniourf@stan-getz.insa-lyon.fr] has joined #lisp 15:48:39 -!- gniourf_gniourf [~Gniourf@stan-getz.insa-lyon.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:48:42 in sbcl run-program I am having difficulty transmitting this: 15:49:05 (run-program "dsread" (list "-v" "-t" "\"X:\\files to tes\\RUN\\myfile\""):input t :output :stream :wait nil :search t) 15:49:49 dim: yes, that has proved up-to-date for me thus far 15:49:51 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.33.212] has quit [Client Quit] 15:50:04 if in a shell the program runs fine as > dsread -v -t "X:\\files to tes\\RUN\\myfile" 15:50:24 -!- stlifey [~stlifey@119.121.183.27] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 15:50:26 why not from run-program ? 15:51:05 dim: addressing your question is http://weitz.de/hunchentoot/#create-folder-dispatcher-and-handler 15:52:33 thx much 15:54:26 booyaa` [~booyaa@adsl-67-121-157-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #lisp 15:55:02 francogrex: have you tried specifying an absolute path to dsread? 15:55:20 ysph: it is an absolute path 15:55:50 to the executable itself 15:56:24 -!- FreeArtMan [~fam@62.85.99.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:58:49 Xach: when you gonna be pulling stuff for next QL? 15:59:45 c_mon4 [~c_mon@41.221.159.85] has joined #lisp 16:00:12 -!- booyaa` [~booyaa@adsl-67-121-157-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:33 didi [~user@unaffiliated/didi/x-1022147] has joined #lisp 16:03:14 Is there a public dev repository for ltk? 16:03:27 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:03:55 wishbone4 [~user@167.216.131.126] has joined #lisp 16:04:19 booyaa` [~booyaa@adsl-67-121-157-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #lisp 16:08:37 -!- booyaa` [~booyaa@adsl-67-121-157-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08:53 -!- manahino [~manahino@softbank126108006128.bbtec.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09:11 -!- antgreen [~user@out-on-235.wireless.telus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:09:46 booyaa` [~booyaa@adsl-67-121-157-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #lisp 16:14:04 -!- c_mon4 [~c_mon@41.221.159.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:15:28 -!- booyaa` [~booyaa@adsl-67-121-157-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17:19 -!- Posterdati [~tapioca@host107-237-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:18:14 -!- spanner [~quassel@128.249.96.10] has left #lisp 16:19:07 kmcorbett [~kmcorbett@199.180.145.100] has joined #lisp 16:19:45 -!- tfb [~tfb@92.40.198.234.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Quit: gone] 16:22:33 -!- mvilleneuve [~mvilleneu@LLagny-156-36-4-214.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:22:34 ysph: but that's not the problem, because if I run it on a path like "c:\\myfile" it works ok, it's the path in the list that is not ok 16:23:05 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:23:58 booyaa` [~booyaa@adsl-67-121-157-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #lisp 16:24:29 because it contains blanks I have to wrap it with " " othewise dsread -v -t c:/myfile would be sufficient 16:25:06 -!- schoppenhauer [~christoph@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:26:48 -!- kiuma [~kiuma@static-217-133-17-91.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:28:11 -!- treyka [~treyka@77.109.79.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:30:23 Posterdati [~tapioca@host49-216-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 16:30:48 leo2007 [~leo@123.114.36.121] has joined #lisp 16:31:00 -!- ezri is now known as dax 16:32:59 -!- francisl [~flavoie@199.84.164.114] has quit [Quit: francisl] 16:33:51 francogrex: ah, that makes sense, can you escape the spaces with \\? 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Anyone with the knowledge and time to help me? 19:04:51 who did the slime-to-js proxy thing? 19:05:06 m7w_ [~chatzilla@46.28.98.228] has joined #lisp 19:05:09 -!- mathrick [~mathrick@85.218.148.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:05:24 toekutr [~user@50-0-51-2.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 19:05:27 -!- m7w [~chatzilla@46.28.98.228] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:05:30 -!- m7w_ is now known as m7w 19:06:47 p_l: |3b| 19:07:37 thanks 19:07:42 ejbz: (sb-ext:set-sbcl-source-location "/source/location/") 19:07:51 put it into ~/.sbclrc 19:09:51 stassats: Thanks 19:10:47 Do I always have to do a (subseq list 0 (min (length list) +max-len+)), ie. always check that the subseq-end is not larger than the list? 19:10:56 I want to get only the first few elements ... 19:11:13 Of course, I could set the nth cdr to NIL ... 19:11:22 -!- booyaa` [~booyaa@adsl-67-121-157-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 19:11:39 -!- ejbz [~user@d83-183-51-82.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12:57 -!- Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@75.Red-88-7-128.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Did you hear that ?] 19:13:35 Deltafire [~chris@82-71-44-155.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #lisp 19:16:15 -!- c_arenz [~arenz@HSI-KBW-109-193-252-079.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:17:40 asvil [~asvil@178.121.106.139] has joined #lisp 19:24:38 clhs subseq 19:24:38 http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/f_subseq.htm 19:25:38 -!- dl [~download@chpcwl01.hpc.unm.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:26:09 -!- Aribe [~Aribe@82.Red-83-61-38.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Aribe] 19:27:24 alexandria has some kind of utility to limit index between two boundaries, name of which escapes me 19:27:59 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.227.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:28:16 -!- wishbone4 [~user@167.216.131.126] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:09 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.154.85] has joined #lisp 19:30:57 maxm: clamp 19:31:16 stassats: I mentioned subseq, do you know anything more? 19:34:27 it's to answer "do i always have to", yes, it appears so 19:34:32 fe[nl]ix: ah thanks, cool name 19:36:55 nanoc [~conanhome@201-251-62-201.static.speedy.com.ar] has joined #lisp 19:39:48 maxm: it's a classic folklore name for the function from computer graphics and other contexts 19:41:08 DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-231.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #lisp 19:41:44 josemanuel [~josemanue@177.174.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lisp 19:43:07 CampinSam [~Sam@24-176-98-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #lisp 19:46:27 -!- josemanuel [~josemanue@177.174.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Client Quit] 19:52:02 Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@75.Red-88-7-128.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 19:52:52 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@188-67-13-181.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:56:41 -!- S11001001 [~sirian@fsf/member/S11001001] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:56:53 S11001001 [~sirian@fsf/member/S11001001] has joined #lisp 19:59:54 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:34 http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpu23rJpa51r0z6kwo1_500.jpg 20:03:47 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-71.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:04:15 Radium [~rajesh.na@117.203.21.245] has joined #lisp 20:04:32 -!- rvrebane [~rvrebane@213-168-31-153-dsl.medium.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:07:32 that sums up my lisp experience so far ;) 20:10:54 didi [~user@unaffiliated/didi/x-1022147] has joined #lisp 20:13:35 -!- EyesIsMine [~Eyes@WiseOS/Founder/EyesIsMine] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:14:20 -!- Radium [~rajesh.na@117.203.21.245] has quit [] 20:15:41 is doing (apply 'char/= (coerce string 'list)) stupid or clever? I know strign will not be longer then 10 chars 20:15:51 to check that there are no duplicate letters 20:16:34 the idea is to make strings to act as labels that are hard to remember 20:17:23 It's the sort of thing that's just crazy enough to work. 20:17:45 Radium [~rajesh.na@117.203.21.245] has joined #lisp 20:17:50 -!- ivan-kanis [~user@89.83.137.164] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:17:55 EyesIsMine [~Eyes@WiseOS/Founder/EyesIsMine] has joined #lisp 20:18:27 or remove-duplicates 20:25:44 -!- parabolize [~gyro@c-75-70-14-105.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:27:48 -!- Radium [~rajesh.na@117.203.21.245] has quit [] 20:30:44 -!- trigen- [~MSX@87.209.144.213] has quit [] 20:32:43 parabolize [~gyro@c-75-70-14-105.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:33:30 -!- am0c [~am0c@182.213.98.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:34:51 -!- Yuuhi`` [benni@p5483A420.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:35:11 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-160-54.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36:46 ysph [~user@adsl-98-89-94-71.mgm.bellsouth.net] has joined #lisp 20:36:51 Radium [~rajesh.na@117.203.21.245] has joined #lisp 20:40:19 ramkrsna [~ramkrsna@122.169.71.235] has joined #lisp 20:41:02 Froward [~uh-oh@206.231.99.110] has joined #lisp 20:43:29 gigamonkey_ [~gigamonke@adsl-76-254-19-133.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 20:44:36 -!- gigamonkey [~gigamonke@adsl-76-254-19-133.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:44:36 -!- gigamonkey_ is now known as gigamonkey 20:47:32 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.154.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:48:18 -!- nanoc [~conanhome@201-251-62-201.static.speedy.com.ar] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 20:50:26 -!- jjkola_work [c064748e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.100.116.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:53:23 prxq [~mommer@mnhm-5f75f980.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 20:55:27 Yuuhi [benni@p5483A420.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 20:57:05 francogrex [~user@109.130.127.179] has joined #lisp 20:57:25 I don't know who wrote this, but he's a genius: an assembler in lisp: 20:57:27 http://paste.lisp.org/display/129267 21:00:34 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-5f75f980.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:01:16 the authors of cmucl and sbcl did? 21:02:13 it's just a fancy interface to sbcl vops, i don't see any genius here 21:02:18 CL code under c:/emacs/zscripts ? 21:02:41 fe[nl]ix: instant ungenius! 21:03:53 stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #lisp 21:06:00 n1tn4tsn0k [~nitnatsno@178.47.218.233] has joined #lisp 21:06:21 -!- n1tn4tsn0k [~nitnatsno@178.47.218.233] has quit [Client Quit] 21:06:49 (asdf:operate ..) :( 21:06:59 pushing into asdf:*central-registry* 21:07:13 not using quicklisp 21:07:31 *sykopomp* dies a little inside. 21:08:10 prxq [~mommer@mnhm-5f75f980.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 21:08:49 -!- Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@75.Red-88-7-128.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Did you hear that ?] 21:10:35 -!- francisl [~flavoie@199.84.164.114] has quit [Quit: francisl] 21:10:37 -!- tritchey [~tritchey@205.233.9.181] has quit [Quit: tritchey] 21:10:42 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:15:00 -!- samebchase [~samuel@pi.nipl.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:16:05 -!- LaPingvino [~LaPingvin@d54C06DE6.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:22:34 francisl [~flavoie@199.84.164.114] has joined #lisp 21:22:51 -!- m7w [~chatzilla@46.28.98.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:24:07 -!- sn0rri [~sn0rri@62.169.219.149] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:24:36 -!- stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:26:25 pspace [~andrew@137.148.254.14] has joined #lisp 21:26:47 -!- fartofagony [fartofagon@c-566ee155.227-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #lisp 21:30:18 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@m83-185-140-170.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 21:32:00 samebchase [~samuel@pi.nipl.net] has joined #lisp 21:37:25 -!- _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:37:26 -!- asvil [~asvil@178.121.106.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:39:44 -!- sanjoyd [~sanjoyd@unaffiliated/sanjoyd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:53 it predates quicklisp 21:43:04 -!- ramkrsna [~ramkrsna@122.169.71.235] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:43:07 it's a fossil I had in old code 21:48:58 the assembler? 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This is really cool - I can use ScriptingBridge to control applications from CCL Lisp: http://clozure.com/pipermail/openmcl-devel/2008-October/008618.html BUT, there is not ns:s-b-application and (apropos "s-b-" 'ns) returns nothing... so what might be wrong? I'm using Snow Leopard and everything else went really smoothly. 23:57:52 Maybe the ScriptingBridge.h interface can't be used from Lisp after all with those instructions on Snow Leopard?