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together 06:55:45 example pls 06:55:55 myObj.onSomeEvent += myHandler 06:56:00 I haven't code C# for months 06:56:24 urandom__ [~user@ip-88-152-205-86.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #lisp 06:59:13 ThePawnBreak [~quassel@94.177.108.25] has joined #lisp 07:00:38 so C# overrides + to be compose? 07:01:09 -!- gaidal [gaidal@219.136.213.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:01:30 I don't remember what the details are; skimming the docs it implies that adding 2 delegates returns a single delegate which "broadcasts" to the two 07:01:45 gaidal [gaidal@58.61.215.67] has joined #lisp 07:01:48 so I don't know what the return value is; same parameters should go to all chained delegates 07:02:05 I just feel annoying about that delegate thing. 07:02:49 think like later , C# will evolve into lisp-like lambda 07:03:09 -!- EmmanuelOga [~emmanuel@190.244.19.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:05:08 -!- urandom__ [~user@ip-88-152-205-86.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Remote host closed the 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tree))) (funcall function tree))) 09:28:45 ;; not tested 09:29:26 -!- attila_lendvai1 [~attila_le@87.247.58.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:30:04 -!- Salamander_ [~Salamande@ppp118-210-199-82.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:30:16 kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 09:30:35 also, NSUBST-IF can be [ab]used for this purpose, if you don't need the tree of results, and a function is called for side-effect only. 09:31:00 it almost works, but I am getting a bunch of nils and they are not there in the tree 09:31:34 yeah I don't need a tree result 09:32:02 just curies why (maptree 'print tree) prints nil elements when there aren't any? 09:32:39 is it the nil that terminates lists? 09:32:46 (defun maptree* (function tree) (nsubst-if nil (lambda(thing) (unless (consp thing) (funcall function thing)) nil)) nil) 09:32:56 ^that's for side effect only 09:34:32 Malk1: nil terminates lists, yes 09:39:41 it shouldn't be printed if it's a terminator, only if it's a list element. i'll try to figure out how to do that, thanks 09:40:47 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.113.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:42:03 Malk1: lists and trees are conceptually different (also, you can represent n-ary trees with lists of lists of lists <..> -- is it what you want?) 09:42:31 yes I have nested lists. thought that's considered a tree 09:42:56 anything which encodes a directed acyclic graph is considered a tree. 09:43:38 (defun maplistree* (function listree) (if (listp listree) (dolist (item listree) (maplistree* function item)) (funcall function listree))) 09:43:42 ;; not tested 09:43:51 -!- katesmith_ is now known as katesmith 09:44:29 *chenbing* actions 09:44:34 bingo 09:45:20 (if (consp tree) (recurse with (car tree)) (when (cdr tree) (recurse with (cdr tree)) ...) is how I've implemented it 09:45:37 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181138064.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 09:45:40 (caching the cdr tree, though) 09:46:21 akovalenko for what kind of tree were your first functions? 09:46:29 Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@242.Red-88-24-175.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 09:46:56 Malk1: cons trees, like ((leaf1 . leaf2) . 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(leaf4 . leaf5))) 09:47:08 ah 09:47:17 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-232-148-151.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:47:34 Phoodus: it looks like you omitted a prog 09:47:36 progn 09:47:43 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.232.148.151] has joined #lisp 09:47:53 yeah, I did 09:48:17 anyway, that's the guts of my "deep-mapcar" which does elements of recursive lists as well as dotted list elements, while passing through end-of-list nils 09:48:18 Malk1: lisp object representing list of lists of lists... also represents a tree of conses, but (binary) tree of conses and (n-ary) "listree" you want are different trees. 09:48:45 Ralith: ah, I omitted a cons, not a progn 09:49:00 given that it's deep-mapcar, which returns a reconstruction of the cons form with new values 09:49:08 that works too 09:51:37 ..and paste.lisp.org isn't working for me 09:51:50 submission just leads to a blank white page 09:53:01 ah, it's showing up on the site, just not leading me anywhere :-P 09:53:14 http://paste.lisp.org/display/126536 09:53:35 sym-when is left to you to implement 09:58:48 I also have deeper-mapcar which applies the function to array elements, hash keys, and hash values :-P 09:59:02 but that might be overkill 09:59:22 you should implement deepest-mapcar 09:59:28 which drills everything down to bits 09:59:32 and invokes a function on each one 09:59:36 yes, that's the logical conclusion 10:00:17 at least the "car" in deep-mapcar still makes sense. It kind of doesn't with deeper-mapcar 10:00:36 naming general utility functions is always a pain 10:01:19 hakzsam [~hakzsam@aqu33-5-82-245-96-206.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 10:03:47 1004.64% CPU... That always gives me a good feeling (: 10:04:49 yep, we're finally over 2000% having found a serialization bottleneck :) 10:05:00 cores are there to be used! 10:06:31 tcr [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 10:06:34 1004 > 2000? 10:06:37 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 10:06:59 Phoodus: (: 10:07:15 it is nice living in the future 10:08:16 Phoodus: I have it easier than you guys. Vector operations are really easy to parallelise. 10:08:28 kilon [~kilon@athedsl-397747.home.otenet.gr] has joined #lisp 10:08:44 yep. Do you in your code, or SBCL in its compiler, bother with SIMD compilation? 10:09:10 my code will. 10:09:41 also, get cracking on an OpenCL target 10:09:43 :) 10:10:02 meta-coder [~meta@unaffiliated/meta-coder] has joined #lisp 10:13:07 Phoodus: I'm not trying to be clever wrt compilation, so that'd actually be pretty easy. 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but what are you on about 12:18:14 -!- rjj [~rjj@cpe-76-90-79-73.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:19:28 Guthur: you can simply ignore it. my english is not good enough 12:19:29 rjj [~rjj@cpe-76-90-79-73.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 12:19:49 p_l|backup [~plasek@pp84.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 12:21:45 http://lisp-book.org/ 12:22:10 and http://blip.tv/eclm/eclm-2011-nick-levine-looking-at-the-bright-side-5735921 12:23:00 oh right, I'll have to go through the videos 12:23:11 I still need to do a writeup on ECLM 12:23:26 Emu outside lisp :) 12:23:41 :D 12:24:37 gffa [~gffa@unaffiliated/gffa] has joined #lisp 12:25:07 I expect his morden topic ,although he focus on Allegrolisp 12:25:14 p_l|backup: I unfortunately found the videos hard to watch 12:25:24 the sound quality is quite bad 12:26:04 -!- cfy [~cfy@unaffiliated/chenfengyuan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:28:16 fantazo [~fantazo@178-191-174-166.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined 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Technically GCL too, but no one cares about that dinosaur 14:31:14 lispmeister [~fix@AStDenis-551-1-32-146.w92-160.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 14:31:16 -!- ISF_ [~ivan@201.82.172.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:33:00 -!- hagish [~hagish@p5DCBD72D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:33:07 -!- kilon [~kilon@athedsl-383839.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:33:30 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #lisp 14:35:05 ISF_ec09 [~ivan@201.82.172.81] has joined #lisp 14:35:39 -!- gko [~gko@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:35:53 gko [~gko@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 14:36:36 -!- nitro_id_ [~nitro_idi@EM1-114-42-7.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:42 -!- ISF__ [~ivan@201.82.172.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:38:13 -!- eMBee [~eMBee@foresight/developer/pike/programmer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38:28 eMBee [~eMBee@foresight/developer/pike/programmer] has joined #lisp 14:39:53 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-232-148-151.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:40:17 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-232-148-151.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 14:40:38 *eMBee* wants an irc client in lisp that runs in a terminal. 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Except in lisp. 15:21:37 pers [~user@99-5-216-95.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 15:21:47 -!- pers [~user@99-5-216-95.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:22:10 pers [~user@99-5-216-95.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 15:22:28 -!- _nix001 [~Adium@114.86.208.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:22:31 _nix00 [~Adium@114.86.208.109] has joined #lisp 15:22:49 -!- sacho [~sacho@87-126-37-7.btc-net.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:24:00 sacho [~sacho@90.154.216.26] has joined #lisp 15:24:34 -!- tsuru```` [~charlie@adsl-74-179-30-124.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24:34 -!- _nix00 [~Adium@114.86.208.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24:44 _nix00 [~Adium@114.86.208.109] has joined #lisp 15:26:20 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-191-34.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:38 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-199-216.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 15:29:39 -!- mathrick [~mathrick@85.218.142.117] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:29:56 mathrick [~mathrick@85.218.142.117] has joined #lisp 15:32:14 _nix001 [~Adium@114.86.208.109] has joined #lisp 15:32:14 -!- _nix00 [~Adium@114.86.208.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:02 sacho_ [~sacho@90.154.216.26] has joined #lisp 15:33:20 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-199-216.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:35:47 -!- sacho [~sacho@90.154.216.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:36:33 sacho [~sacho@90.154.201.240] has joined #lisp 15:37:25 -!- sacho_ [~sacho@90.154.216.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:40:47 -!- anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:40:53 -!- _nix001 [~Adium@114.86.208.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:41:00 Kron_ [~Kron@69.166.20.62] has joined #lisp 15:41:06 _nix00 [~Adium@114.86.208.109] has joined #lisp 15:41:45 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:43:01 anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has joined #lisp 15:43:20 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 15:43:28 schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-051-012.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 15:46:08 -!- pnq [~nick@AC812189.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:48:58 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-232-148-151.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:49:18 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-232-148-151.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 15:49:41 eMBee: not exactly what you asked for as you probably meant common lisp, but i use erc (which is in emacs) over ssh 15:52:06 -!- kilon [~kilon@athedsl-409732.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:53:13 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181138064.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:54:05 -!- neoesque [~neoesque@210.59.147.226] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 15:55:54 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-232-148-151.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:56:13 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-232-148-151.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 15:59:20 kilon [~kilon@ppp-94-64-190-98.home.otenet.gr] has joined #lisp 16:02:05 -!- mathrick [~mathrick@85.218.142.117] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:02:22 mathrick [~mathrick@85.218.142.117] has joined #lisp 16:03:53 -!- osa1 [~sinan@141.196.89.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:04:07 mstevens [~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has joined #lisp 16:05:01 ThomasH [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/thomash] has joined #lisp 16:05:06 Greetings lispers 16:07:26 -!- sacho [~sacho@90.154.201.240] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07:43 sacho_ [~sacho@90.154.201.240] has joined #lisp 16:07:58 -!- ThomasH [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/thomash] has left #lisp 16:08:08 ThomasH [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/thomash] has joined #lisp 16:08:14 Woops 16:08:34 'afternoon 16:08:41 Note to self: focus does *not* follow eyeball. 16:09:24 greetings 16:09:40 ThomasH: you don't have proper pointing device, then 16:10:11 p_l|backup: Yeah. I've wanted/needed that feature for a long time. 16:17:07 -!- schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-051-012.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:17:38 pocket [~pocket_@p4155-ipbf811hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lisp 16:22:21 -!- samebchase [~samuel@76.73.121.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:25:20 samebchase [~samuel@76.73.121.203] has joined #lisp 16:27:27 Snaffu [~Snaffu@oh-69-34-16-39.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #lisp 16:32:04 H4ns: I can't see juan jose's SBCL post (: 16:32:31 -!- anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:32:41 -!- cfy [~cfy@unaffiliated/chenfengyuan] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:36:42 -!- airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 16:39:00 michalkichal [~a@212.180.168.188] has joined #lisp 16:46:01 -!- ivan-kan` [~user@89.83.137.164] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:47:42 c_arenz [~arenz@HSI-KBW-109-193-252-079.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 16:49:49 lbc [~quassel@h198.natout.aau.dk] has joined #lisp 16:51:15 EmmanuelOga [~emmanuel@190.244.19.108] has joined #lisp 16:58:31 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #lisp 17:00:06 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@h178n4c1o838.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: add^_] 17:00:33 add^_ [~add^_^@h178n4c1o838.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #lisp 17:02:07 -!- spradnyesh [~pradyus@117.192.59.43] has left #lisp 17:03:45 nialo` [nialo@ool-182d5684.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 17:05:17 Modius [~user@cpe-70-123-128-240.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 17:06:25 -!- kilon [~kilon@ppp-94-64-190-98.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07:30 osa1 [~sinan@141.196.101.228] has joined #lisp 17:11:06 pnathan [~Adium@98.145.116.190] has joined #lisp 17:12:25 toekutr [~user@50-0-51-2.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 17:13:15 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-155.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:13:55 -!- Joreji [~thomas@u-0-024.vpn.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:15:20 -!- alvis [~alvis@tx-184-5-64-92.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17:46 pkhuong: Good article on initializing structures. 17:19:58 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-2.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:21:04 sipo [~user@static-72-74-85-37.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 17:23:35 -!- gko [~gko@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:23:45 gko [~gko@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 17:24:41 -!- _nix00 [~Adium@114.86.208.109] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:25:01 Cosman246 [~cosman246@c-66-235-51-122.sea.wa.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #lisp 17:27:27 Can someone provide advice on the following problem solution? is there a more idiomatic way to do it? 17:27:30 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=f7ZSZetm 17:27:46 (paste.lisp.org/new/lisp seems not to work) 17:27:50 -!- sipo [~user@static-72-74-85-37.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:28:22 toekutr [~user@50-0-51-2.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 17:28:47 anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has joined #lisp 17:28:56 duomo [~duomo@cpe-67-248-14-24.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 17:29:21 Neban: works fine, . There's just no bot around to announce the link automatically. 17:29:45 -!- parabolize [~gyro@c-75-71-247-61.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:29:46 When I post on it, I just get a blank page instead of the post. 17:30:14 Neban: Yeah, you just have to go to paste.lisp.org and your paste will show up. 17:30:44 Oh, thanks. 17:31:01 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-2.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:31:05 Neban: google for MJRTY; it's a really clever majority (not plurality) by Boyer and Moore. And these two are even almost on-topic: they use lisp a lot, if only via ACL2. 17:31:08 Here it is: http://paste.lisp.org/display/126544 17:32:57 pkhuong: nice algorithm, I think I'll try it too. 17:35:00 -!- lbc [~quassel@h198.natout.aau.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:35:02 Neban: you could use if (...) return vote i.e. without do 17:35:06 Kron [~Kron@69.166.20.62] has joined #lisp 17:35:27 lbc [~quassel@h198.natout.aau.dk] has joined #lisp 17:35:32 -!- Kron is now known as Guest46528 17:35:41 Thanks, daimrod. 17:36:13 Neban: there's no need to take the floor of (/ length 2). 17:36:38 -!- Kron_ [~Kron@69.166.20.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:36:53 -!- lbc [~quassel@h198.natout.aau.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:37:01 it's also more idiomatic to use WHEN instead of IF here. 17:37:38 Should I always use WHEN when I don't have an else branch? 17:38:43 Neban: See (macroexpand '(when its-true do-it)), it's a matter of style. 17:38:45 depends. WHEN is for effects, while AND is for value. 17:39:28 I thought the question was between WHEN and IF. 17:40:09 ThomasH: it's about if without an else branch. 17:41:07 Ok, how does AND factor into that? 17:41:10 Thanks everyone for your feedback. 17:41:55 toekutr [~user@50-0-51-2.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 17:42:38 -!- michalkichal [~a@212.180.168.188] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:43:47 -!- anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:44:06 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:46:10 -!- overminder [~overminde@wf105-220.ust.hk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:46:15 I'm not trying to be argumentative, I really don't see the connection. 17:47:02 ikki [~ikki@189.247.116.252] has joined #lisp 17:49:51 so, im trying to compile cl-dormouse with sbcl, but it keeps telling me the 'dormouse:' class isnt defined 17:50:04 it is defined though 17:55:03 toekutr: How do you know? 17:58:16 -!- simplechat [~simplecha@unaffiliated/simplechat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:59 realitygrill_ [~realitygr@76.226.204.55] has joined #lisp 18:01:12 *Xach* wants to help but it looks too hard to try 18:02:26 ThomasH: pkhuong: FWIW I'm interested w/rt other's opintions about this as well 18:02:54 w/r/t WHEN UNLESS IF OR/AND etc. 18:03:27 -!- ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:03:33 SeanTAllen [~SeanTAlle@cpe-204-210-148-165.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 18:03:50 -!- replore_ [~replore@ntkngw268248.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:25 replore [~replore@ntkngw268248.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #lisp 18:04:55 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 18:05:01 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-232-148-151.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:05:01 -!- realitygrill_ is now known as realitygrill 18:05:31 -!- lemoinem [~swoog@172-74-252-216.dsl.colba.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:06:07 ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 18:06:33 lemoinem [~swoog@216.252.64.147] has joined #lisp 18:13:40 mon_key: I try to follow the advice on page 13 of "Tutorial on Good Lisp Programming Style", Norvig & Pitman. 18:13:55 chenbing` [~user@115.192.192.247] has joined #lisp 18:14:05 mon_key: But, I find myself using OR on occasion to set a default value. 18:14:32 Xach: because the class is defined in the source code right in front of me 18:15:15 tensorpudding [~michael@99.56.169.114] has joined #lisp 18:15:47 -!- chenbing [~user@115.192.192.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:16:54 mon_key: This is their advice -> http://paste.lisp.org/display/126547 18:17:07 -!- am0c [~am0c@222.235.56.178] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:18:04 ThomasH: Thanks. I have the ps open now as well. (-: 18:18:34 -!- ramusara [~ramusara@220.156.210.236.user.e-catv.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:51 toekutr: try to lisppaste a transcript with a small test case so that we can replicate what you observe. 18:19:23 mon_key: Take the advice in that presentation with a grain of salt, it was apropos to lisp in 1993, some of it doesn't really apply to modern implementations. 18:19:24 ThomasH: I don't totally accept the reasoning behind AND/OR for booleans (generalized or otherwise) b/c OR can also a type specifer where its usage is apropos sets 18:19:49 mon_key: it's a different OR. 18:20:33 pkhuong: Sure, but their reasoning seems to hinge partly on consistency 18:21:07 mon_key: consistency between different OR is spurious. 18:21:13 toekutr: It has to be defined within lisp at the appropriate time, too. 18:21:21 pkhuong: well, all i'm doing is trying to compile this library: https://bitbucket.org/eeeickythump/cl-dormouse/ 18:21:26 pkhuong: fair enough. 18:22:34 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.204.55] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:22:54 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.204.55] has joined #lisp 18:23:40 pkhuong: Actually upon reconsideration their reasoning is consistent because the return of the OR macro comprises the set of all things T 18:24:31 anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has joined #lisp 18:24:34 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.204.55] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24:36 realitygrill_ [~realitygr@76.226.204.55] has joined #lisp 18:24:49 bbommarito [~bbommarit@c-68-83-194-239.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 18:24:52 toekutr: I don't even see any dormouse:window class in that library. 18:27:00 Yuuhi [benni@p5483CFC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 18:27:19 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:27:25 -!- teggi [~teggi@123.21.164.107] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:27:50 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #lisp 18:28:06 nitro_idiot [~nitro_idi@EM1-114-78-226.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lisp 18:28:19 its at line 1671 18:30:53 -!- gko [~gko@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [] 18:32:11 -!- McMAGIC--Copy [~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33:20 nyef [~nyef@c-174-63-105-188.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 18:33:29 Hello all. 18:35:12 -!- ddp [~ddp@anon-132-162.relakks.com] has quit [Quit: ddp] 18:35:13 hi nyef 18:35:36 ddp [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has joined #lisp 18:35:39 toekutr: it's . 18:37:17 but it's defined in #:dormouse 18:38:50 , not window. 18:39:24 wait, you do have the brackets. How did you load the library? 18:39:47 -!- lispmeister [~fix@AStDenis-551-1-32-146.w92-160.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:40:06 well, originally i used quickproject to make a project that depends on it 18:40:18 and i've tried to load it manually also 18:40:52 toekutr: how did you load it manually? 18:41:15 again, paste a transcript for others to replicate. 18:42:11 it requires installing a fairly obscure foreign library, first 18:44:56 lispmeister [~fix@AStDenis-551-1-22-57.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 18:45:06 http://paste.lisp.org/display/126549 18:46:07 -!- alexzin [~alex@ppp85-141-134-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:46:35 toekutr: does the project have an .asd file? 18:47:17 toekutr: that's not how asdf works. Regardless, a copy of the error message and a backtrace is also useful. 18:47:19 actually, just loading it like that wouldnt work anyway 18:47:37 yes it has an asd file 18:49:13 I was loading it like that just to see if it ran into the same error 18:49:45 There's a bunch of defgeneric with default methods that specialize on classes that are only defined later in the file. 18:50:02 Move the defclass to the top and things should work. 18:50:56 McMAGIC-1Copy [~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy] has joined #lisp 18:52:47 im gonna kick myself if it was that simple 18:53:52 -!- Neban [~neban@177.Red-79-156-36.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Neban] 18:54:13 -!- Ralith [~ralith@S010600221561996a.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:56:36 yeah, it worked 18:56:47 thanks :) 18:59:25 alexzin [~alex@ppp85-141-134-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 19:00:05 chp [~user@c-68-45-180-238.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:00:52 ``Erik_ [erik@c-69-140-109-104.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:01:44 -!- nitro_idiot [~nitro_idi@EM1-114-78-226.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:21 -!- ``Erik [~erik@BRLCAD.ORG] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:03:33 -!- ``Erik_ is now known as ``Erik 19:07:03 -!- ikki [~ikki@189.247.116.252] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:09:07 -!- EyesIsServer [~eyes@WiseOS/Founder/EyesIsMine] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:10:08 -!- nha [~prefect@5-74.104-92.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:10:45 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:16:02 -!- osa1 [~sinan@141.196.101.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:18:15 -!- Snaffu [~Snaffu@oh-69-34-16-39.sta.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:21:43 -!- anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:23:39 nha [~prefect@5-74.104-92.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #lisp 19:24:08 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 19:26:19 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:43 -!- realitygrill_ [~realitygr@76.226.204.55] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:53 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 19:26:59 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.204.55] has joined #lisp 19:28:59 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:29:55 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 19:30:47 -!- tali713 [~user@c-76-17-236-129.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 19:30:47 -!- tali713` is now known as tali713 19:30:53 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:35:15 -!- lispmeister [~fix@AStDenis-551-1-22-57.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:35:17 -!- nowhereman [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-24-189.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:35:46 _0bitcount [~0bitcount@81.61.35.235.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #lisp 19:37:48 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.113.9] has joined #lisp 19:40:55 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-24-189.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 19:41:09 -!- duomo [~duomo@cpe-67-248-14-24.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:41:11 ejbs [~user@d83-183-51-82.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 19:41:38 gabnet [~gabnet@ACaen-257-1-150-137.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 19:41:49 -!- alexzin [~alex@ppp85-141-134-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:43:39 -!- gabnet [~gabnet@ACaen-257-1-150-137.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 19:44:49 anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has joined #lisp 19:45:53 wanderingelf [4817e03b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.23.224.59] has joined #lisp 19:46:49 -!- benny [~benny@i577A86AA.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:48:09 anvandare [~anvandare@dD5770DCD.access.telenet.be] has joined #lisp 19:49:15 -!- EmmanuelOga [~emmanuel@190.244.19.108] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7-dev] 19:50:33 EarlGray^ [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has joined #lisp 19:52:57 benny [~benny@i577A1602.versanet.de] has joined #lisp 19:53:36 LiamH [~healy@pool-108-18-171-26.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 19:55:06 madalu [~user@unaffiliated/madalu] has joined #lisp 19:58:19 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #lisp 20:00:07 -!- anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:01:28 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Client Quit] 20:02:09 ApeShot [~user@cpe-076-182-098-158.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 20:02:24 I notice that CL has some idiosyncracies with respect to the filesystem 20:02:33 Is there a library that covers these up a bit? 20:02:39 Or is it every man for himself? 20:02:45 cl-fad, mostly. 20:03:11 Thanks 20:03:30 What is the licenses thereon? 20:03:54 -!- pareidolia [~michaelk@voncosel.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:04:00 bsd 20:04:02 Good to know 20:04:05 Thanks a ton. 20:04:51 You know, Common Lisp is actually pretty nice. 20:05:09 When you have to get something done and you don't want to bother with asinine academic questions about features 20:05:22 Ordinarily I agonize over stupid things 20:07:35 -!- LiamH [~healy@pool-108-18-171-26.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11:08 modern mode, what a brilliant idea! 20:12:07 brilliant! 20:12:32 Xach: dozens of (intern (formats in ironclad, but i think i got them all fixed. 20:12:51 not that the result is very pretty. i'm curious as to see whether nathan accepts the pull request. 20:13:15 ah 20:14:36 -!- replore [~replore@ntkngw268248.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15:20 anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has joined #lisp 20:18:42 -!- _0bitcount [~0bitcount@81.61.35.235.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #lisp 20:19:02 gilligan_ [~gilligan@p57974D2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 20:19:35 -!- spearalot [~spearalot@c83-248-111-48.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 20:22:12 LiamH [~healy@pool-108-18-171-26.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 20:22:17 xcv [~xcv@dsl-225-28.hive.is] has joined #lisp 20:23:27 -!- anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:23:50 madalu` [~user@c-71-201-77-24.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:24:23 Hm. `ensure-directories-exist` seems to not be creating the directory I requested, but it is also not signalling and error. 20:24:47 -!- madalu [~user@unaffiliated/madalu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:24:47 -!- chp [~user@c-68-45-180-238.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:25:04 ApeShot: Let me guess... you forgot the trailing slash on the directory name, so it's leaving off the last one you wanted? 20:25:21 aha! 20:25:33 that is rather a strange behavior 20:25:46 ApeShot: it is not. :) 20:26:05 ApeShot: it is very consistent with common lisp's understanding of path names. 20:26:20 Right, an understanding that was current 20 years ago 20:26:25 -!- chenbing` [~user@115.192.192.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:26:31 But whatevs 20:26:32 ApeShot: if you have trouble understanding the mind set of common lisp, you may find reading the unix-haters handbook illustrative. 20:26:35 Simple enough to deal with 20:28:05 Ok, so what is the most Lisp friendly way to deal with this 20:28:25 I'd like to ensure that if the user passes in a descriptor that isn't terminated with a slash, then it appends one 20:28:28 you specify a trailing slash in all pathnames that designate a directory. 20:28:37 But the slash may be different on different systems 20:28:46 i believe cl-fad has something in the lines of pathname-as-directory or so 20:29:23 So it does 20:29:24 Thanks 20:29:38 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.181] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:32:36 What is the idiom for dynamically shadowing a function rather than lexically doing so, as with flet and labels? 20:33:21 Does anyone know how to work through CL-PPCRE so as to make it context sensitive? 20:33:21 ApeShot: there is no idiomatic way 20:33:26 Or is there a better way? 20:33:45 -!- Salamander [~Salamande@ppp118-210-21-69.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: G'bye] 20:33:48 H4ns: is there any sensible way to do it? 20:33:54 Cosman246: there is the irregular expressions post, which i found helpful. 20:34:02 Ah 20:34:06 CL-irregexp? 20:34:18 Cosman246: hold. 20:34:28 ApeShot: no idiom. Good implementations of that trick use special variables to know which functions to call, and have a (defun shadowed-foo (...) (funcall *foo-function* ...)) 20:34:57 Phoodus: interesting. Probably not worth the hassle 20:35:58 bad implementations do it with unwind-protect and (setf fdefinition), but that's a very nice way to get threads to stomp on one another. 20:36:34 mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.130] has joined #lisp 20:39:23 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:39:27 H4ns: Is hold the name of something, or should I hold? 20:39:57 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 20:40:58 Cosman246: http://russ.unwashedmeme.com/blog/?p=27 20:41:03 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:41:10 Cosman246: there is also an extension that generalizes on that 20:41:51 Thanks 20:42:11 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-178-230.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42:35 -!- c_arenz [~arenz@HSI-KBW-109-193-252-079.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:43:08 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 20:43:32 That hack looks it defines visibly-pushdown automata. 20:46:27 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:46:48 urandom__ [~user@p548A5175.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 20:48:54 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #lisp 20:53:43 add^_^ [~add^_^@m90-141-44-211.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 20:55:26 H4ns: Where's the extension? 20:55:55 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #lisp 20:56:45 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@h178n4c1o838.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:56:45 -!- add^_^ is now known as add^_ 20:57:54 -!- gilligan_ [~gilligan@p57974D2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:57:58 kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-67-249-228-147.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 20:59:26 Cosman246: use the googlez. i think it was something in the lines of irregular expressions 20:59:28 anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has joined #lisp 20:59:44 OK, but that just brings me pictures of "nerd" jewlery 21:02:11 Thanks, though 21:02:45 mishoo_ [~mishoo@79.112.112.130] has joined #lisp 21:04:23 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:05:28 -!- ivan-kanis [~user@89.83.137.164] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:33 Ah! 21:05:40 found it? 21:05:44 So I pass a parse tree to regex-replace-all 21:06:03 and insert :filter ? 21:07:32 pnq [~nick@AC810B83.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 21:07:34 to make sure it will match in between env-before and env-after 21:07:55 -!- Guest46528 [~Kron@69.166.20.62] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:08:19 Kron_ [~Kron@69.166.20.62] has joined #lisp 21:08:47 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:08:57 -!- madalu` [~user@c-71-201-77-24.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:09:13 nowhereman [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-103-50.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 21:10:57 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-24-189.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:11:04 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #lisp 21:13:47 hmmmmm 21:14:48 ikki [~ikki@189.247.116.252] has joined #lisp 21:15:30 Nope, that doesn't seem right 21:16:05 Maybe I should implement a regex inside of a regex 21:16:55 First scan for a concatenation of env-before, expression, and env-after 21:17:17 then, within that scan, use regex-replace 21:17:25 and loop through the file 21:23:19 -!- ISF_ec09 [~ivan@201.82.172.81] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6] 21:26:55 -!- ThePawnBreak [~quassel@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:28:00 -!- anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:28:24 -!- nyef [~nyef@c-174-63-105-188.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: G'night all.] 21:28:48 Nope, that doesn't work 21:28:59 I can't go "within the scan" 21:31:00 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 21:31:20 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 21:34:20 But something else I thought of *does* 21:34:25 -!- sacho_ [~sacho@90.154.201.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:34:25 compmstr [~compmstr@cpe-74-68-138-100.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 21:34:42 -!- compmstr [~compmstr@cpe-74-68-138-100.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #lisp 21:35:47 spearalot [~spearalot@c83-248-111-48.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 21:38:13 Cosman246: If you have to resort to these types of techniques, have you considered that maybe REGEX are not the best tool for the job? 21:38:14 Cosman246: FWIW if your using regular expressions apropos your query yesterday for phonemes your probably "doing it wrong"... 21:38:25 ThomasH: heh. beat me to it 21:38:41 mon_key: That was kinda funny 21:38:46 I expect that this will be a temporary solution 21:39:07 Cosman246: to quote JWZ: "Now you have two problems" 21:39:16 When I can understand better the other tools, I shall substitute that in 21:39:21 So what is there to say about initializing complex CLOS instances? My tendency is to write a function `make-` but then I find that I need to rewrite all the code when I subclass. 21:39:26 Cosman246: Temporary solutions become permanent if you get them to work. 21:39:32 Trues 21:39:34 *True 21:39:52 prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c0a37.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 21:40:00 -!- urandom__ [~user@p548A5175.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:40:01 ApeShot: See INITIALIZE-INSTANCE 21:40:07 Thanks 21:40:10 ApeShot: ...or SHARED-INITIALIZE 21:41:22 Cosman246: http://regex.info/blog/2006-09-15/247 21:41:29 Thanks 21:41:35 Cosman246: I'm battling the "temporary solution" problem with a lot of my code at the moment. Really trying to excise all of my "temporary solutions". 21:41:46 Ah 21:44:00 Thanks 21:44:04 hi 21:44:21 Hey 21:46:02 At first blush its difficult to figure out which I should define a method for, initialize-instance or shared-initialize 21:46:16 What is the deal? 21:47:27 Rather, any insight would be appreciated 21:48:11 ApeShot: CHANGE-CLASS, UPDATE-INSTANCE-FOR-REDEFINED-CLASS etc. 21:48:13 ApeShot: I use INITIALIZE-INSTANCE. Do you have a copy of "Object-Oriented Programming in Common Lisp", by Keen. 21:48:27 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-148-131.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 21:49:39 *Keene* 21:50:13 No. 21:50:36 ApeShot: That's a good CLOS refrence. 21:50:57 I'll buy it on the company dime! 21:51:08 They won't begrudge 10 bucks for a used copy 21:51:37 anonus [~anonymous@88.80.28.189] has joined #lisp 21:51:43 Never mind, the library has it 21:52:04 ApeShot: If you can get a copy for $10, it's nice to have. 21:52:22 jacius [~jacius@c-24-13-89-230.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:52:49 pro-tem, is there is an online example someplace? I'm a bit confused whether I must specify each initarg by hand for each method definition and about a few other things. 21:53:20 how about 'practical common lisp'? I thought it had a good clos section... 21:53:52 Maybe, I've haven't used PCL for reference in a while. 21:54:20 -!- mishoo_ [~mishoo@79.112.112.130] has quit [Quit: (save-lisp-and-die)] 21:54:36 http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/object-reorientation-classes.html 21:54:48 That covers using INITIALIZE-INSTANCE 21:55:00 Thanks a ton! 21:56:17 ThomasH: how's you CFD solver going? 21:57:48 -!- ApeShot [~user@cpe-076-182-098-158.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58:21 prxq: I was working on structural FEA. Mainly bogged down with job related things and haven't been able to work on advancing the state of the art. 21:58:27 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.113.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:58:55 prxq: I'm actually at a point where I have a fairly complete library in CL for feeding input to a commercial FEA code. I feel like about over the hump. 21:59:54 mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.130] has joined #lisp 22:01:14 ThomasH: did you ever look at femlisp? 22:02:26 EyesIsServer [~eyes@WiseOS/Founder/EyesIsMine] has joined #lisp 22:03:26 ThomasH: the 'ever' is not supposed to sound in any specific way :-) 22:03:36 just curious if you looked at it 22:04:16 prxq: Yes. It is very specialized. The problems I'm solving are applied and general. 22:09:00 -!- EyesIsServer is now known as EyesIsAsleep 22:09:23 Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-34-78.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 22:10:22 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10:53 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 22:11:39 sirvaliance [~sirvalian@gateway/tor-sasl/sirvaliance] has joined #lisp 22:12:06 What would be the best lisp for opengl programming? 22:12:07 gilligan [~gilligan@p57974D2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 22:12:25 -!- drwho [~drwho@c-68-81-125-196.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 22:13:19 Anyone know why evaluationg this bogus format string in SLIME doesn't land one in the debugger: (format nil "e~8,0s" 12395) 22:16:28 drwho [~drwho@c-68-81-125-196.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:17:26 Or from the command line for that matter? 22:18:38 on SBCL 22:19:28 FWIW Clisp returns a division division by zero error. 22:22:45 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:23:38 wildnux_ [~wildnux@68-191-210-76.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has joined #lisp 22:23:41 what does that do in sbcl for you 22:24:24 here it hangs 22:24:28 same here 22:24:48 tensorpudding: nice nick :-) 22:25:06 thanks? 22:25:47 -!- wanderingelf [4817e03b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.23.224.59] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:25:58 -!- mstevens [~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:26:35 -!- nepnux [~wildnux@68-191-210-76.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:26:50 mon_key: it looks like you have found a bug 22:27:54 prxq: Maybe. I guess... I have no idea what I should expect though. What would you expect? 22:29:47 mon_key: at least not that it stupidly goes into an infinite loop, printing 0 pad caracters over and over, hoping ever to get somewhere this way. 22:30:15 OK. Thanx. 22:32:22 from the clhs page, I seem to get that the behavior is undefined. I have in front of me the piece of code where the whole thing hangs in sbcl, and yes, it's a classic infinite loop, where a counter is incremented by zero over and over. 22:32:35 -!- nha [~prefect@5-74.104-92.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:34:26 prxq: i filed a bug. feel free to elaborate: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sbcl/+bug/905817 22:34:42 It errors out nicely in CCL. 22:35:04 Neban [~neban@177.Red-79-156-36.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 22:35:08 gilligan_ [~gilligan@84.19.178.6] has joined #lisp 22:35:25 -!- pnq [~nick@AC810B83.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:36:05 askatasuna [~askatasun@190.97.34.146] has joined #lisp 22:36:23 -!- gilligan_ [~gilligan@84.19.178.6] has quit [Client Quit] 22:36:27 mon_key: ok! 22:38:26 -!- gilligan [~gilligan@p57974D2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:39:38 urandom__ [~user@p548A5175.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 22:40:53 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:41:25 -!- ericeatsbrains [~ericeatsb@173-164-222-106-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:43:09 ericeatsbrains [~ericeatsb@173-164-222-106-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lisp 22:43:21 lars_t_h [~lars_t_h@002129082097.mbb.telenor.dk] has joined #lisp 22:46:18 tcr [~tcr@84-72-21-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 22:46:40 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@m90-141-44-211.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 22:47:37 -!- nicdev [~user@c-76-24-21-219.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:47:38 -!- airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 22:49:15 -!- cyrillos [~cyrill@188.134.33.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:50:40 duomo [~duomo@cpe-67-248-14-24.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 22:51:36 -!- Guthur [~user@host86-147-205-221.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:57 i thought the iterate manual contained some information on how to write generators. but i can't find it anymore 22:53:55 series 22:54:34 Nauntilus [~Benji@ip68-231-176-93.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #lisp 22:55:03 -!- rjj [~rjj@cpe-76-90-79-73.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:55:12 -!- Nauntilus [~Benji@ip68-231-176-93.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:55:37 Nauntilus [~Benji@ip68-231-176-93.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #lisp 22:56:19 -!- Nauntilus [~Benji@ip68-231-176-93.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:56:22 -!- naeg [~naeg@194.208.239.170] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6] 22:56:46 HG` [~HG@dsbg-4db5bcd6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 22:57:07 -!- ericeatsbrains [~ericeatsb@173-164-222-106-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:57:40 h0x00 [~h0x00@91.207.42.52] has joined #lisp 22:58:20 -!- HG` [~HG@dsbg-4db5bcd6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:00:01 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:00:12 -!- ejbs [~user@d83-183-51-82.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:29 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-148-131.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:00:31 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 23:01:37 -!- CaZe [~CaZe@unaffiliated/y354c] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:44 CaZe [~CaZe@unaffiliated/y354c] has joined #lisp 23:03:27 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-148-131.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 23:05:02 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c0a37.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:07:08 ericeatsbrains [~ericeatsb@173-164-222-106-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lisp 23:07:21 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-2.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10:20 -!- LiamH [~healy@pool-108-18-171-26.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:12:45 -!- Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@242.Red-88-24-175.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Did you hear that ?] 23:14:12 mon_key: i always imagined series to be less flexible 23:14:18 mon_key: i may be wrong though 23:14:19 mensch [~mensch@c-67-189-241-178.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:14:37 series does something different. 23:14:48 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:15:00 it is not so much about iteration than about sequences 23:15:11 it is pretty advanced, actually. a bit too advanced maybe 23:15:14 H4ns: yes, but in some situations they could be used to solve similar problems 23:15:39 madnificent: right. they all are do on steroids if you want to see it like that :) 23:16:05 H4ns: i suddenly appreciate them more :) 23:16:14 the stereoids? 23:16:26 H4ns: on yesterday bug... after checking out CCL trunk, the bug is already fixed. I suppose rme commited new binaries. 23:16:27 also, if anyone has a clue about the speed of iterate vs loop (if there are cases where there is a noticable difference), then that would be interesting. i doubt it though. 23:16:56 Neban: great. complaining actually helps :) 23:17:05 H4ns: it sounds awesome, no? iterate, it's like do* on steroids! 23:21:38 -!- gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-24-216-21.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:23:18 nicdev [~user@c-76-24-21-219.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:26:04 -!- dima_f [~dima_f@170.251.255.70] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:26:17 -!- CaZe [~CaZe@unaffiliated/y354c] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26:27 dima_f [~dima_f@170.251.255.70] has joined #lisp 23:27:05 CaZe [~CaZe@unaffiliated/y354c] has joined #lisp 23:30:21 -!- h0x00 [~h0x00@91.207.42.52] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:30:50 h0x00 [~h0x00@91.207.42.52] has joined #lisp 23:32:01 -!- h0x00 [~h0x00@91.207.42.52] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33:16 h0x00 [~h0x00@91.207.42.52] has joined #lisp 23:36:41 -!- h0x00 [~h0x00@91.207.42.52] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:36:58 h0x00 [~h0x00@91.207.42.52] has joined #lisp 23:41:47 -!- h0x00 [~h0x00@91.207.42.52] has quit [Client Quit] 23:46:02 -!- ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:56:38 davazp`` [~user@89.100.226.133] has joined #lisp 23:57:50 Bike [~Glossina@71-214-98-252.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #lisp