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Sounds like a really good list :) 04:25:09 hi plage 04:25:32 phadthai [mmondor@ginseng.pulsar-zone.net] has joined #lisp 04:26:32 minion: memo for p_l: yes, the ToC contains all the libs I have actually tested and used, at least across two platforms .. including the ones that didn't work ;-) 04:26:33 Remembered. I'll tell p_l when he/she/it next speaks. 04:27:31 fusss: cool :-) 04:27:32 p_l, memo from fusss: yes, the ToC contains all the libs I have actually tested and used, at least across two platforms .. including the ones that didn't work ;-) 04:31:26 -!- kleppari [~spa@bitbucket.is] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:31:47 now, I'm going to try and execute a crazy financial manuever in those two weeks... 04:31:59 and hopefully fund a CL company in the end 04:34:05 tcr [~tcr@203.82.92.84] has joined #lisp 04:34:05 Khisanth [~Khisanth@pool-96-246-7-135.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 04:34:25 sepult [~levgue@xdsl-78-34-236-232.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 04:35:21 kleppari [~spa@bitbucket.is] has joined #lisp 04:35:44 iPac2 [~bubble@p54AA4C51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 04:36:09 -!- WePac [~bubble@p54AA4C51.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:36:19 bojovs [~bojovs@202.209.91.169] has joined #lisp 04:36:37 -!- SandGorgon [~OmNomNomO@122.163.216.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:36:59 -!- bojovs [~bojovs@202.209.91.169] has quit [Client Quit] 04:37:15 bojovs [~bojovs@202.209.91.169] has joined #lisp 04:38:11 sellout [~greg@c-24-128-48-180.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 04:39:21 (or at least cl-using one) 04:39:31 p_l: i did that 11 days ago; all $10 of it for the domain name :-) 04:39:31 -!- bojovs [~bojovs@202.209.91.169] has left #lisp 04:41:30 fusss: I'm pulling wool over bank's eyes to get two accounts with £500 overdraft each (though I plan to be careful with overdraft, only minimal costs, but there's some I'll have to pay) 04:42:32 and there's a possibility that I could arrange funding for a certain idea I've got (Android-related, low level stuff including crunching on Dalvik bytecode and ARM assembly) 04:43:23 abugosh [~Adium@216-164-114-53.c3-0.tlg-ubr3.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #lisp 04:45:50 -!- abugosh [~Adium@216-164-114-53.c3-0.tlg-ubr3.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Client Quit] 04:51:29 hohoho [~hohoho@EM114-48-80-125.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lisp 04:52:29 hohoho_ [~hohoho@2002:7230:507d:6:21e:c2ff:feb4:2a5d] has joined #lisp 04:54:31 -!- hohoho_ [~hohoho@2002:7230:507d:6:21e:c2ff:feb4:2a5d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56:52 -!- hohoho [~hohoho@EM114-48-80-125.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:11:21 vng [~user@123.20.54.104] has joined #lisp 05:12:11 Good morning! 05:12:14 hi 05:12:26 hello Oddity 05:21:34 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:24:12 enthymeme [~kraken@cpe-76-168-152-229.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 05:30:03 vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@164.164.250.10] has joined #lisp 05:39:06 -!- iPac2 [~bubble@p54AA4C51.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:39:20 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 05:45:00 dysinger [~dysinger@cpe-66-8-173-142.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 05:45:11 hello vng! 05:48:24 -!- ramus [~ramus@adsl-99-136-192-129.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:50:13 -!- vng [~user@123.20.54.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:52:03 -!- dysinger [~dysinger@cpe-66-8-173-142.hawaii.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:58:53 lhz [~shrekz@c-dba672d5.021-158-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #lisp 06:00:39 dysinger [~dysinger@cpe-66-8-173-142.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 06:02:27 -!- mdj [~user@apnonl.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03:17 vng [~user@123.20.97.234] has joined #lisp 06:03:38 hello plage 06:06:44 leo2007 [~leo@cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #lisp 06:08:55 benny` [~benny@i577A7997.versanet.de] has joined #lisp 06:11:05 -!- benny` is now known as benny 06:11:10 jewel [~jewel@196-210-134-109-rhwh-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 06:12:33 abeaumont [~abeaumont@84.76.48.250] has joined #lisp 06:13:15 nostoi [~nostoi@227.Red-80-39-157.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 06:17:13 HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-51-162.dip.osnanet.de] has joined #lisp 06:20:54 -!- nostoi [~nostoi@227.Red-80-39-157.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 06:22:14 nunb [~nundan@59.178.220.151] has joined #lisp 06:22:25 -!- TR2N [email@89.180.157.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:25:53 I would like to open the slime debugger interface for a remote repl running inside of tmux. The exception's already been thrown, and the debugger's been invoked, but slime was not connected when it happened. 06:26:28 Is there a way using slime to see which sbcl debugger's were invoked when slime was disconnected? 06:26:38 Kolyan [~nartamono@89-178-191-167.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lisp 06:26:38 -!- fusss [~chatzilla@60-241-1-206.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:27:06 "which"? 06:27:19 also, slime-list-threads shows lots of threads with descriptions like: 1: initial thread RUNNING INVOKE-INTERRUPTION <- INVOKE-INTERRUPTION <- (FLET RUN-HANDLER) <- (FLET RUN-HANDLER) 06:27:25 Can I attach a debugger to these somehow? 06:27:55 using `d' 06:28:44 cool. 06:28:51 To your former question: In the SBCL debugger, get hold on the condition that was thrown, and then do (swank::invoke-slime-debugger condition) 06:29:13 -!- mtd [~martin@ops-13.xades.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:29:56 -!- plage [~user@91.113.251.139] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:32:13 tcr: d works great, slime-thread-debug doesn't seem to be in the manual. I'm a happy camper :-) 06:33:36 -!- skeledrew [~skeledrew@0008-27-27-72-DYNAMIC-dsl.cwjamaica.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:33:38 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-134-109-rhwh-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:34:20 tcr: ah, but there is no command line sbcl debugger? however, I can list the thread in slime and attach with d, and that let's me pinpoint where the error occurred. 06:34:38 Athas [~athas@82.211.209.162] has joined #lisp 06:34:47 plage [~user@91.113.251.139] has joined #lisp 06:36:05 mvilleneuve [~mvilleneu@LLagny-156-36-4-214.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 06:36:19 good morning 06:36:46 ramus [~ramus@adsl-99-23-146-151.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 06:37:36 hello mvilleneuve 06:37:49 mvilleneuve: Aren't you supposed to have a holiday today? 06:38:51 plage: we actually chose to work today :) 06:39:15 Ah, but trams and buses run like a holiday? 06:41:15 ASau` [~user@77.246.231.119] has joined #lisp 06:47:39 plage: yes, but with the same schedule as on sundays 06:50:50 Right! 06:53:49 mvilleneuve: I haven't done anything about SICL for a few days because it is not very practical to code at breakfast in the hotel on this very small screen. But I read some documentation, and identified another "module" namely the strign functions, which mostly require only that the corresponding character functions exist. 06:54:46 I am not sure that such a module will be fast enough. I guess it depends on how good a job the compiler can do. 06:55:29 Nevertheless, it seems worthwhile to do, and it doesn't require much energy. 06:55:52 -!- enthymeme [~kraken@cpe-76-168-152-229.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 23.1.1] 06:56:17 Time to go wake up my wife! 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In C I'd be using threads 07:40:56 I see something about sdl:sdl-init-eventthread in the docs but I'm not sure what it does. 07:42:47 vtl [~user@nat/redhat/x-uojhvjpxukadjdoe] has joined #lisp 07:52:19 anyone? 07:53:52 -!- bombshelter13b [~bombshelt@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: bombshelter13b] 07:54:49 p0a: sorry, I never used lispbuilder-sdl. 07:55:22 On irc, not only you have to know how to ask the right question, but you have to ask it WHEN the right people are here to answer it! 07:55:36 Do you know where I can find the source for a simple game that uses it? 07:55:44 For asynchronous support, try news:comp.lang.lisp 07:56:01 Or Google. 07:56:20 p0a: try #lispgames too 07:56:21 Perhaps even google code. 07:58:46 pjb, I need either a news server or a google mail and I have neither (google mails require sms activation) 07:58:53 You can look at sdl-init-eventthread's source. 07:59:21 gravicappa, it's a constant mentioned in the docs. it's the only result searching for 'thread' 07:59:36 I used lisbbuilder-sdl, but employed ordinary main-loop without multithreading. 07:59:37 p0a: I use individual.net ; I heard about eternal-september.org too. 08:00:34 gravicappa, and how did you manage to have both the game loop running and waiting for keys? 08:01:01 i think it's a bad idea to seek support on c.l.l, using lispbuilder maillist 08:01:07 would be better 08:01:23 pjb, I'll see into these 08:01:56 In general this is done with select(2) or poll(2) on linux. These syscalls are often wrapped by higher level lisp functions. Try to identify the one in lispbuilder-sdl. 08:02:26 select is blocking 08:02:42 non-blocking select could be implemented with the :POLL functionality in WITH-INIT. Is that the only solution? 08:02:44 Something like: (progn (do-sdl-events) (do-game-loop-step)) 08:02:51 or in your implementation. (in clisp, it's hidden in socket:socket-status). 08:02:59 select has timeout 08:03:46 yes it does but that's beyond the point 08:04:07 merl15 [~merl@188-22-165-0.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #lisp 08:05:21 gravicappa, doesn't do-sdl-events pause until an event occurs? 08:06:41 Harag [~Harag@wbs-41-208-202-249.wbs.co.za] has joined #lisp 08:06:41 -!- Athas [~athas@82.211.209.162] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:08:23 zomgbie [~jesus@h081217133138.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #lisp 08:10:42 I am mysteriously getting this error from time to time. http://paste.lisp.org/display/100339 08:11:07 plage [~user@91.113.251.139] has joined #lisp 08:11:38 I can't seem to find any background ccl running and pretty sure I am the only one using the port number 4007. 08:12:15 man netstat 08:12:15 http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/netstat.1.html 08:16:44 p0a, there is :idle event for game loop cycles. 08:18:21 stassats: both 4007 and 9 are listening but I have no ccl running. 08:18:40 gravicappa, :POLL and :IDLE then? So the input subsystem is separated by other subsystems (audio, video, networking, etc) 08:19:26 and you're right that way it works. fps is also managed by lispbuilder-sdl (I had forgotten) 08:20:25 -!- Bobrobyn [~rsmith05@CPE0015e9d40d4f-CM001ac30e9df0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:25:32 OmniMancer [~OmniMance@122-57-24-10.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #lisp 08:30:20 kpreid [~kpreid@cpe-72-228-72-196.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 08:34:07 kuwabara [~kuwabara@cerbere.qosmos.net] has joined #lisp 08:41:32 -!- pizzledizzle [~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 08:41:45 ignas [~ignas@ctv-79-132-160-221.vinita.lt] has joined #lisp 08:42:05 -!- mbohun [~mbohun@202.124.73.155] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:42:59 grouzen [~grouzen@91.214.124.65] has joined #lisp 08:48:02 -!- p0a [~user@athedsl-373176.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Quit: bye] 08:50:11 xan_ [~xan@216.Red-217-125-15.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 08:50:27 -!- dysinger [~dysinger@cpe-66-8-173-142.hawaii.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: dysinger] 08:54:00 -!- Paraselene_ [~Not@79-67-148-135.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56:17 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #lisp 08:56:30 Paraselene [~Not@79-67-148-135.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #lisp 08:59:24 ClaudiaS [~user@mail2.siscog.pt] has joined #lisp 08:59:31 Hi everybody 09:00:31 -!- Axioplase is now known as Axioplase_ 09:00:41 anyone seeing this error when compiling ccl? http://paste.lisp.org/display/100340 09:01:34 hello ClaudiaS 09:01:49 ve [~a@guava.vm.bytemark.co.uk] has joined #lisp 09:02:11 mstevens [~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has joined #lisp 09:02:18 simplechat [~simplecha@unaffiliated/simplechat] has joined #lisp 09:02:55 leo2007: something else, have a look at http://www.mundell.ukfsn.org/native/ 09:05:21 pjb: the speed hasn't seen much improvement. 09:05:56 pjb: but the patch seems small 09:06:59 leo2007: it's more a question of principle ;-) 09:07:09 mcsontos [~mcsontos@hotspot8.rywasoft.net] has joined #lisp 09:07:53 how do you mean? 09:08:44 Blkt [~user@dynamic-adsl-94-37-230-215.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #lisp 09:13:35 -!- potatishandlarn [~potatisha@79.102.11.220] has quit [] 09:14:13 -!- SandGorgon [~OmNomNomO@122.160.41.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:15:19 mbohun [~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 09:16:06 pavelludiq [~quassel@91.139.195.7] has joined #lisp 09:16:14 -!- plage [~user@91.113.251.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:16:37 SandGorgon [~OmNomNomO@122.160.41.129] has joined #lisp 09:23:47 -!- HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-51-162.dip.osnanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:23:55 -!- randa [~randa@94.99.50.84.sta.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:24:01 plutonas [~plutonas@port-92-195-43-3.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #lisp 09:24:05 OmniMancer1 [~OmniMance@122-57-24-10.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #lisp 09:24:55 plage [~user@91.113.251.139] has joined #lisp 09:26:21 -!- OmniMancer [~OmniMance@122-57-24-10.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:26:29 -!- lat [~lat@125.167.140.159] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 09:27:43 SandGorgon_ [~OmNomNomO@122.160.41.129] has joined #lisp 09:29:36 -!- plage [~user@91.113.251.139] has left #lisp 09:29:48 -!- neoesque [~neoesque@210.59.147.232] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31:24 -!- SandGorgon [~OmNomNomO@122.160.41.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:31:31 b4|hraban [~b4@a83-163-41-120.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #lisp 09:33:06 how to force ccl into using single thread? 09:34:16 HET2 [~diman@cpc1-cdif12-2-0-cust125.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 09:35:08 getting this SWANK::PRIN1-TO-STRING-FOR-EMACS Undefined function 09:35:58 mpasternacki [~user@pd95cb4c4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 09:36:09 -!- mpasternacki [~user@pd95cb4c4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #lisp 09:36:37 it's swank-rpc::prin1-to-string-for-emacs 09:37:17 sth wrong upstream? 09:37:43 just nobody uses ed-in-emacs 09:38:04 i dont know why it shows up. 09:41:33 -!- zomgbie [~jesus@h081217133138.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:44:15 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@80.90.116.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:44:41 because it wasn't updated 09:45:36 just did that yesterday. 09:45:57 not you, ed-in-emacs wasn't updated 09:48:32 -!- xyxxyyy [~xyxu@58.41.59.220] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:53:20 -!- xan_ [~xan@216.Red-217-125-15.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 09:54:49 (parse "x , y , z" (op% [xyz] #\,) wsp) => # 09:54:58 not bloody bad 09:55:55 [xyz] is a reader for character classes like: [a-zA-Z0-9_] 09:58:13 -!- ignas [~ignas@ctv-79-132-160-221.vinita.lt] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:03:10 Yuuhi [benni@p5483C7D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 10:03:24 -!- spearalot [~spearalot@192.165.126.74] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 10:04:42 -!- QinGW1 [~wangqingw@60.247.26.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:06:05 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@89.135.204.215] has joined #lisp 10:08:01 ve_ [~a@smith.xen.tardis.ed.ac.uk] has joined #lisp 10:10:58 billitch [~billitch@men75-12-88-183-197-206.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 10:12:23 -!- ve_ [~a@smith.xen.tardis.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 10:12:27 -!- SandGorgon_ [~OmNomNomO@122.160.41.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:13:13 SandGorgon_ [~OmNomNomO@122.160.41.129] has joined #lisp 10:15:33 spearalot [~spearalot@192.165.126.74] has joined #lisp 10:18:24 Guthur [~michael@host86-150-202-161.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 10:20:24 skeledrew [~skeledrew@0008-27-27-72-DYNAMIC-dsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #lisp 10:20:44 potatishandlarn [~potatisha@c-4f663e74-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined #lisp 10:21:55 any idea why sbcl failed to compile this file? http://paste.lisp.org/display/100344 10:23:15 leo2007: encoding issues. 10:23:22 ignas [~ignas@78-60-73-85.static.zebra.lt] has joined #lisp 10:23:39 leo2007: it's possible your sbcl is trying to read the file as utf-8 encoded but it's iso-8859-1 encoded, or vice versa, or some other similar mismatch. 10:24:09 xan_ [~xan@80.31.20.248] has joined #lisp 10:24:21 oh, :ascii, eh? 10:24:44 leo2007: the file does not contain only ascii-encoded characters. 10:25:36 *Xach* is excited about ILC 2010 potential 10:32:45 -!- dstatyvka [ejabberd@pepelaz.jabber.od.ua] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:40:14 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.31.20.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:50:11 -!- dto [~dto@pool-96-252-62-25.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:50:25 WePac [~bubble@p54AA4C51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 10:52:12 -!- SandGorgon_ [~OmNomNomO@122.160.41.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:52:23 xan_ [~xan@80.31.20.248] has joined #lisp 10:53:16 SandGorgon_ [~OmNomNomO@122.160.41.129] has joined #lisp 10:55:32 OsamaBinWOG [~OsamaBinW@24-177-10-101.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #lisp 10:57:03 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.31.20.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:57:59 -!- WOG [~OsamaBinW@24-177-10-101.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:00:40 gravicappa [~gravicapp@80.90.116.82] has joined #lisp 11:01:59 -!- HET2 [~diman@cpc1-cdif12-2-0-cust125.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:02:03 Xach: will there be an ILC 2010? 11:02:51 alama [~user@193.136.122.17] has joined #lisp 11:03:24 xan_ [~xan@80.31.20.248] has joined #lisp 11:04:15 ejs [~eugen@tarelka.tenet.odessa.ua] has joined #lisp 11:04:29 dto [~dto@pool-96-252-62-25.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 11:08:24 Xach: thanks. that's correct. The file is in utf-8 because of a name in the doc-string. 11:08:34 can sbcl 1.0.34 read utf-8 files? 11:08:37 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.31.20.248] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:08:51 I have '(swank:create-server :dont-close t :port 4011 :coding-system "utf-8-unix")' 11:08:56 but it still fails 11:09:11 -!- ejs [~eugen@tarelka.tenet.odessa.ua] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:09:38 ejs [~eugen@nat.ironport.com] has joined #lisp 11:11:09 -!- grouzen [~grouzen@91.214.124.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:12:37 -!- kenjin2201 [~kenjin@163.152.84.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12:41 luis: Yes, as part of SPLASH (née OOPSLA), somewhere near Lake Tahoe, Nevada. 11:12:59 pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@42.Red-217-125-2.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 11:14:44 luis: yes, in Reno, NV 11:14:50 jgracin [~jgracin@dh111-186.xnet.hr] has joined #lisp 11:14:58 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@89.135.204.215] has left #lisp 11:15:02 anyway I make the file ascii. 11:16:12 slash_ [~Unknown@whgeh00014.cip.uni-regensburg.de] has joined #lisp 11:21:48 -!- nunb [~nundan@59.178.220.151] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:22:23 nunb [~nundan@59.178.213.192] has joined #lisp 11:32:14 leo2007: it would be better to set up your environment to deal with unicode... 11:32:17 -!- alama [~user@193.136.122.17] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32:46 -!- schmx [~marcus@sxemacs/devel/schme] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:32:53 pjb: yeah, ccl has not problem reading that file. don't why sbcl failed. 11:32:54 schmx [~marcus@c83-254-196-101.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 11:32:54 -!- schmx [~marcus@c83-254-196-101.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Changing host] 11:32:54 schmx [~marcus@sxemacs/devel/schme] has joined #lisp 11:32:56 stassats: sometimes, I do use ed, in shell in emacs. Am I crazy? 11:33:37 (Usually, because I'm thru ssh in shell in emacs). 11:33:38 pjb: but that's not what ed-in-emacs means 11:33:52 WOG [~OsamaBinW@24-177-10-101.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #lisp 11:33:53 What is ed-in-emacs? 11:34:12 hooking emacs into cl:ed 11:34:41 -!- smanek [~smanek@cpe-98-14-140-77.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:34:44 Oh! This. Well, yes of course, I've got my CL:ED hooked to emacs. Well, emacsclient in fact. 11:34:56 jdz [~jdz@85.254.211.133] has joined #lisp 11:35:18 But it's true that it's not often used. Only when I try out IBCL :-) 11:35:22 zomgbie [~jesus@mk090152154055.a1.net] has joined #lisp 11:36:02 -!- OsamaBinWOG [~OsamaBinW@24-177-10-101.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:37:18 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@89.135.204.215] has joined #lisp 11:40:54 -!- SandGorgon_ [~OmNomNomO@122.160.41.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:41:46 SandGorgon_ [~OmNomNomO@122.160.41.129] has joined #lisp 11:45:23 OsamaBinWOG [~OsamaBinW@24-177-10-101.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #lisp 11:46:31 nixie [~nixie@121.227.50.98] has joined #lisp 11:46:53 grouzen [~grouzen@91.214.124.2] has joined #lisp 11:47:42 -!- cisticola [~daddy@202.134.251.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:47:54 I got some code that if run in the terminal of the lisp repl works fine. but causes segment fault running in emacs through slime 11:47:59 pmd [~user@2001:690:2100:4:200:1aff:fe19:daa8] has joined #lisp 11:48:01 -!- WOG [~OsamaBinW@24-177-10-101.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] 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joined #lisp 13:19:32 mtd [~martin@82.68.80.108] has joined #lisp 13:21:17 dlowe [~dlowe@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #lisp 13:23:23 -!- jdz [~jdz@85.254.211.133] has quit [Quit: Damn cable pluggers] 13:23:43 jdz [~jdz@85.254.211.133] has joined #lisp 13:23:55 -!- OmniMancer1 [~OmniMance@122-57-24-10.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:26:28 SpinDoctor [~chatzilla@ppp-69-230-120-63.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #lisp 13:28:20 LiamH [~none@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has joined #lisp 13:29:12 newbie question for CL: why does (member '(a) '((a))) return nil? I'm trying to look for the single item list '(a) in a list of lists 13:29:34 SpinDoctor: use :test 'equal 13:30:08 -!- kenjin2201 [~kenjin@163.152.84.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:30:20 clhs member 13:30:20 http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/a_member.htm 13:30:53 xyxxyyy [~xyxu@222.65.69.14] has joined #lisp 13:31:55 i looked in the hyperspec to see what the default test for member was, but didn't see it. is it eql? 13:31:58 huh ? I though there was a standard default value for :test 13:32:10 SpinDoctor: yes, it is eql 13:32:10 but yeah, I think it's usually eql 13:32:31 see http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/17_ba.htm 13:32:43 carlocci [~nes@93.37.204.39] has joined #lisp 13:33:25 oh, there it is :P 13:34:04 ah, perfect. thanks. 13:34:42 -!- nixie [~nixie@121.227.50.98] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:34:52 nixie [~nixie@121.227.50.98] has joined #lisp 13:35:05 -!- nixie [~nixie@121.227.50.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35:10 nixie [~nixie@121.227.50.98] has joined #lisp 13:35:38 *Xach* had to get there via http://l1sp.org/search/satisfy - can't remember the section like 11.1.2.1.2 13:36:53 gospch [~gospch@unaffiliated/gospch] has joined #lisp 13:37:22 ejs [~eugen@241-117-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #lisp 13:38:21 -!- gospch [~gospch@unaffiliated/gospch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38:34 lichtblau [~user@port-92-195-31-218.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #lisp 13:39:51 -!- zomgbie [~jesus@mk090152154055.a1.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:41:26 -!- Blkt [~user@dynamic-adsl-94-37-230-215.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:41:47 Blkt [~user@dynamic-adsl-94-37-230-215.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #lisp 13:43:45 skeledrew1 [~skeledrew@0213-54-27-72-DYNAMIC-dsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #lisp 13:45:48 -!- skeledrew [~skeledrew@0008-27-27-72-DYNAMIC-dsl.cwjamaica.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:45:56 Xach: didn't know about l1sp.org, thanks ... and it looks like it's run by you ;) useful service, thanks for doing it 13:46:26 aw [~aw@ip-90-187-114-43.web.vodafone.de] has joined #lisp 13:47:02 skeledrew [~skeledrew@0162-58-27-72-DYNAMIC-dsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #lisp 13:48:01 -!- SandGorgon_ [~OmNomNomO@122.160.41.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:48:01 -!- skeledrew1 [~skeledrew@0213-54-27-72-DYNAMIC-dsl.cwjamaica.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:48:07 -!- ryepup [~user@216.155.97.1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:48:27 -!- legumbre_ [~leo@r190-135-4-90.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49:17 no problem 13:49:30 i find it helpful when i'm at a browser that doesn't have my "smart" bookmarks for clhs lookup set up 13:50:17 morphling [~stefan@gssn-5f756dd1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 13:50:42 legumbre_ [~leo@r190-135-19-76.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #lisp 13:51:05 parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #lisp 13:55:09 HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-51-162.dip.osnanet.de] has joined #lisp 13:58:28 felideon [~user@12.228.15.162] has joined #lisp 13:58:53 tritchey [~tritchey@c-98-226-81-194.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 13:59:06 -!- jgracin [~jgracin@dh111-186.xnet.hr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59:45 -!- ejs [~eugen@241-117-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:00:15 -!- felideon [~user@12.228.15.162] has quit [Client Quit] 14:04:24 smanek [~smanek@cpe-98-14-140-77.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 14:07:59 -!- jdz [~jdz@85.254.211.133] has quit [Quit: Boot me gently] 14:09:58 ejs [~eugen@241-117-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #lisp 14:09:58 -!- sbahra [~sbahra@c-68-48-66-31.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11:11 -!- grouzen [~grouzen@91.214.124.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:13:50 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@80.90.116.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:14:13 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #lisp 14:21:42 -!- nixie [~nixie@121.227.50.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28:00 ska` [~user@110.164.137.205] has joined #lisp 14:28:42 -!- ska` [~user@110.164.137.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:30:17 lisppaste: url 14:31:19 minion: tell Guthur about lisppaste 14:31:30 they're dead! 14:31:42 Botcide 14:32:13 -!- Ginei_Morioka [irssi_log@78.112.57.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:32:38 http://paste.lisp.org/display/100351 14:32:52 I'll had to just to it the manual way 14:33:19 Any idea why those would be causing a arithmetic error FLOATING-POINT-INVALID-OPERATION signalled 14:33:31 On SBCL 14:33:31 Ginei_Morioka [irssi_log@78.115.197.129] has joined #lisp 14:33:38 Its from sb-cga 14:33:46 because floating point traps are set 14:34:05 ah, nyef is working on them as well 14:34:22 -!- legumbre_ is now known as legumbre 14:34:31 sb-int:with-float-traps-masked 14:37:08 -!- spearalot [~spearalot@192.165.126.74] has quit [Quit: -arividerchi] 14:38:21 -!- dialtone_ [~dialtone@unaffiliated/dialtone] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:40:24 postamar [~postamar@x-132-204-253-57.xtpr.umontreal.ca] has joined #lisp 14:43:46 <_3b> Guthur: (declare (notinline sb-kernel:make-single-float)) in single-float-quiet-nan (and same for s/single/double/) 14:45:18 Hun [~hun@95-90-225-75-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 14:45:41 Ah, that done the trick 14:45:50 cheers _3b 14:46:17 nyef was doing something with fp-traps, I wonder if it is related 14:46:50 -!- smanek [~smanek@cpe-98-14-140-77.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:47:06 <_3b> no, this is a compiler bug, the trap is just a symptom 14:47:07 <_3b> https://bugs.launchpad.net/sbcl/+bug/486812 14:47:09 He was fixing at something for next release 14:47:40 ska` [~user@110.164.137.205] has joined #lisp 14:49:22 <_3b> alternately, i suppose you could arrange to mask the trap while compiling the code or something 14:51:39 -!- ASau` [~user@77.246.231.119] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52:33 grouzen [~grouzen@91.214.124.2] has joined #lisp 14:53:06 stray_hound__ [~stray@c-24-245-50-140.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 14:54:17 -!- tcr [~tcr@203.82.92.84] has left #lisp 14:55:01 I have this setup to automatically connect to swank http://paste.lisp.org/display/100352. 14:55:07 hi there! 14:55:53 but every time when the connection is established it pops up the repo and switch to it. 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Otherwise I'd look at emacs impls and beach's Vietnamese Clim thingy 18:02:12 okay splittist 18:02:12 me [~user@94.188.39.210] has joined #lisp 18:02:37 -!- me is now known as ost 18:03:06 myrkraverk [~johann@unaffiliated/myrkraverk] has joined #lisp 18:03:12 splittist: I don't think so? 18:03:48 :) 18:03:57 i was thinking google was broken for a second ;) 18:05:23 pkhuong: well, that solves that one (: 18:06:33 redline6561 [~redline@adsl-190-191-78.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #lisp 18:07:44 -!- ost [~user@94.188.39.210] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:07:55 -!- ejs [~eugen@241-117-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:08:50 bombshelter13b [~bombshelt@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #lisp 18:09:17 asarch [~asarch@189.188.155.191] has joined #lisp 18:12:27 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-141-167-54.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:13:29 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-140-144-243.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 18:14:12 fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has joined #lisp 18:14:43 merl15 [~merl@188-22-27-140.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #lisp 18:15:36 lisppaste [~lisppaste@common-lisp.net] has joined #lisp 18:18:12 gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-17-204-7.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 18:18:35 SandGorgon [~OmNomNomO@122.163.216.98] has joined #lisp 18:18:36 -!- fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:18:44 Xach: so, you going to ILC-2010? 18:19:58 gigamonkey: My wife has two nursing conferences in October, I have my fingers crossed against a scheduling conflict. 18:20:15 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-140-144-243.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:20:21 gigamonkey: If there is no conflict, I will go. 18:20:22 Heh, it's at the Nugget. I've stayed there before  Amazon has a warehouse nearby. 18:20:23 I've been invited to speak. We may meet IRL at last. 18:20:32 nice! 18:20:37 gigamonkey: Cool :) 18:21:08 Have to work out the deets of traveling with, or leaving wife home alone with a five-month-old and a four-year-old. 18:21:27 Sorry, four-month-old. 18:21:38 (If all goes according to plan in the next few weeks.) 18:21:53 My wife said she wants to go, and leave the kids with the grandparents. Dunno if that will be feasible. 18:22:04 gravicappa [~gravicapp@91.78.231.188] has joined #lisp 18:22:15 -!- Zephyrus [~emanuele@unaffiliated/zephyrus] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:23:17 Phoodus [foo@174-22-241-233.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 18:24:08 Assuming I'm actually going to speak, I'll be accepting topic suggestions. 18:24:35 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@89.135.204.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:24:49 -!- aw [~aw@p5DDA9042.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev] 18:26:49 daniel_ [~daniel@p5082C462.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 18:28:11 potatishandlarn [~potatisha@79.102.7.72] has joined #lisp 18:28:34 -!- daniel [~daniel@p5082E0DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:29:51 slyrus_ [~slyrus@dsl092-019-253.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #lisp 18:30:51 netytan [~netytan@85.211.16.208] has joined #lisp 18:31:05 Assuming I'm actually going to speak, I'll be accepting topic suggestions. 18:31:10 Ooops, sorry. 18:31:18 M-p in the wrong buffer. 18:32:44 fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has joined #lisp 18:37:08 _3b`: thx. 18:37:13 -!- fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:38:45 -!- WePac [~bubble@p54AA7630.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:39:40 -!- vng [~user@123.20.97.234] has quit [Quit: go to bed] 18:40:30 Xach: I sent djb an email last week. Still no answer. 18:42:49 -!- bombshelter13b [~bombshelt@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: bombshelter13b] 18:46:33 Xach: Cool, I'm looking forward to it. 18:47:48 -!- Kolyan [~nartamono@89-178-191-167.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [] 18:50:10 _3b` any suggestion what to read then? I only had a lecture once telling a few basics about opengl but dont really know anything ... and the code if cl-opengl is not very ... readable. 18:51:17 fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has joined #lisp 18:51:39 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:51:58 <_3b`> stuff about C opengl should be reasonably usable, cl-opengl adds stuff to simplify things, so you can pass multiple args to gl:enable at once, pass lists of keywords instead of ORing bit flags, with-foo macros, stuff like that 18:52:56 <_3b`> cl-glut wraps glut stuff in CLOS stuff, so that is a bit more of a change from C, but you can still use C style, or look at the examples and work from them for the CLOS stuff 18:52:59 -!- HET2 [~diman@w220.engin.cf.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:53:21 <_3b`> or you can use some other lib (sdl bindings, cl-glfw, glop, etc) to open the windows, just need to tell cl-opengl how to get extension pointers 18:55:39 -!- fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:56:03 -!- asarch [~asarch@189.188.155.191] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:44 -!- morphling [~stefan@gssn-5f756dd1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:57:05 WePac [~bubble@p54AA7630.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 18:59:17 out of curiosity, why does (string= ) work? that is, why does it handle symbols and not numbers, lists, etc. 18:59:53 udzinari [~user@209.158.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #lisp 19:00:42 _3b` actually I am currently turning away from sdl ... because its too slow for what I want to do. 19:01:48 egn: symbols are designators for the string that is their name 19:02:05 http://l1sp.org/search/designator has some useful links 19:02:41 Xach: thanks 19:03:02 Odin- [~sbkhh@s121-302.gardur.hi.is] has joined #lisp 19:05:27 Xach do you mean symbols as in any identifier or as in 'x 19:05:45 or does that reveal my noobishness 19:07:27 aledge: a symbol is a well-defined kind of object in Common Lisp. 19:07:58 when i write "symbol", i mean objects that are instances of that system class. 19:08:39 ok 19:08:46 i think i might have answered my question as well 19:08:57 since (string= 'asdf 'adsf) is t but (string= ''asdf ''asdf) is not 19:09:00 Bobrobyn [~rsmith05@CPE0015e9d40d4f-CM001ac30e9df0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #lisp 19:10:01 fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has joined #lisp 19:10:01 aledge: i'd expect the latter to be an error. 19:10:05 yes, it is 19:10:13 (QUOTE ASDF) is a list, not a string designator. 19:10:42 so the precise reason why the former is t is because 'asdf evaluates to the symbol asdf 19:11:04 grouzen [~grouzen@91.214.124.2] has joined #lisp 19:11:08 which you said is the designator for the string of its name 19:11:18 so i just need to read what a designator is precisely 19:12:42 http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/26_glo_s.htm#string_designator 19:12:55 that l1sp.org search has links to all the designators supported directly by CL 19:13:01 <_3b`> schoppenhauer: i mean using sdl just for opening the window (and handing input, etc if needed), it doesn't affect the speed of the opengl part 19:13:18 _3b` ah ok. 19:13:20 HET2 [~diman@w220.engin.cf.ac.uk] has joined #lisp 19:13:34 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@catv-89-133-171-82.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #lisp 19:13:48 aledge: the glossary page says that a string designator is a character, symbol, or string 19:14:13 yeah i just found that 19:14:14 thanks 19:14:42 -!- fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:14:55 attila_lendvai1 [~attila_le@apn-89-223-143-35.vodafone.hu] has joined #lisp 19:14:55 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@catv-89-133-171-82.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:14:57 -!- attila_lendvai1 is now known as attila_lendvai 19:15:04 I've seen some confusion about expecting (string= "foo" '()) to signal an error. 19:15:21 () designates the string "NIL" 19:20:30 enthymeme [~kraken@130.166.209.7] has joined #lisp 19:22:31 Fare [~Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #lisp 19:23:11 OK. 19:23:22 I'll give a lightning talk on ASDF2 tonight. 19:27:05 Edward__ [~Ed@AAubervilliers-154-1-80-203.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 19:27:49 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-134-109-rhwh-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:28:05 Fare: I got a function that only runs on single-threaded lisp. Otherwise it crashes the whole thing. 19:28:15 Do you have a cure for single threaded ccl? 19:28:34 fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has joined #lisp 19:28:42 leo2007, look on the qitab homepage 19:28:56 the answer is yes. 19:29:13 we use it at ITA. 19:30:06 I have tried that one and it has errors during startup. 19:32:16 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@88.103.132.186] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 19:33:11 -!- fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:34:19 if that's the best option, i will give it another go later on. 19:34:35 what errors do you get? 19:34:39 which CCL are you using? 19:34:45 eugu [~Miranda@212.1.246.237] has joined #lisp 19:35:09 works for me, but I haven't tested the latestest CCL trunk. 19:35:27 CCL 1.5 I didn't record the error when trying this morning. but it is about module path. 19:35:59 Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-30-161.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 19:36:02 -!- schoppenhauer [~christoph@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:39:00 -!- hdurer__ [~holly@home.sinclair-durer.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:39:00 hdurer__ [~holly@pdpc/supporter/active/hdurer] has joined #lisp 19:39:45 -!- bgs000 is now known as bgs100 19:41:51 stepnem [~stepnem@88.103.132.186] has joined #lisp 19:42:00 skeledrew [~skeledrew@0162-58-27-72-DYNAMIC-dsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #lisp 19:42:52 module path? 19:43:07 oh - maybe you need to export CCL_DEFAULT_DIRECTORY=/path/to/ccl 19:43:13 or something 19:43:24 or else, many things will suck 19:43:38 alternatively, put your stccl binary in the same directory as the rest of CCL 19:43:47 and it will autodetect 19:43:52 this ought to be documented... 19:47:05 -!- lat [~lat@125.167.140.159] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:47:07 fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has joined #lisp 19:47:32 *Fare* pushes updated comments. 19:47:37 lat [~lat@125.167.140.159] has joined #lisp 19:47:38 -!- mattrepl [~mattrepl@208.78.149.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:49:12 -!- lat [~lat@125.167.140.159] has quit [Client Quit] 19:49:32 OmniMancer [~OmniMance@122-57-24-10.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #lisp 19:49:39 lat [~lat@125.167.140.159] has joined #lisp 19:50:56 m4dnificent [~madnifice@83.101.62.132] has joined #lisp 19:51:15 -!- fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:53:15 -!- madnificent [~madnifice@83.101.62.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:54:45 Fare: thanks. 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Looks like "yes": "The value of a slot that is specified as shared both in the old class and in the new class is retained.") 21:17:11 -!- _mathrick [~mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:17:22 -!- Hun [~hun@95-90-225-75-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19:24 -!- xan_ [~xan@83.32.114.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:19:40 mathrick [~mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk] has joined #lisp 21:19:46 slyrus__ [~slyrus@dsl092-019-253.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #lisp 21:21:24 -!- slyrus_ [~slyrus@dsl092-019-253.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:21:50 -!- Nshag [user@lns-bzn-44-82-249-252-221.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:21:58 Nshag [user@lns-bzn-52-82-65-101-37.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 21:22:31 Thomas_H [~Thomas_H@d207-6-77-199.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #lisp 21:22:47 -!- tritchey 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No it does not... 22:42:19 -!- Sumpen [~Sumpen@81-232-77-93-no46.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Planned down time ^^] 22:43:17 merl15 [~merl@188-22-27-140.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #lisp 22:44:13 -!- rpg [~rpg@216.243.156.16.real-time.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45:32 rpg- [~rpg@216.243.156.16.real-time.com] has joined #lisp 22:46:28 -!- merl15 [~merl@188-22-27-140.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:46:52 TeMPOraL [~user@188.146.197.152.nat.umts.dynamic.eranet.pl] has joined #lisp 22:50:56 -!- silenius [~silenius@rrcs-64-183-24-50.west.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:51:29 fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has joined #lisp 22:53:08 OmniMancer1 [~OmniMance@202.36.179.65] has joined #lisp 22:53:25 parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #lisp 22:54:58 -!- OmniMancer [~OmniMance@202.36.179.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:55:29 OmniMancer [~OmniMance@202.36.179.65] has joined #lisp 22:56:11 -!- fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:56:19 silenius [~silenius@rrcs-64-183-24-50.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #lisp 22:56:29 mindCrime [~chatzilla@cpe-075-189-213-049.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 22:56:46 -!- udzinari [~user@209.158.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:57:05 ltriant [~ltriant@lithium.mailguard.com.au] has joined #lisp 22:57:22 cisticola [~daddy@202.134.251.153] has joined #lisp 22:57:27 -!- OmniMancer1 [~OmniMance@202.36.179.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:02:08 -!- cisticola [~daddy@202.134.251.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:02:35 -!- tritchey [~tritchey@c-98-226-81-194.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: tritchey] 23:07:06 abend [~alx@076-076-146-016.pdx.net] has joined #lisp 23:08:03 sword [~sword@c-76-115-88-63.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:12:06 HET4 [~diman@w220.engin.cf.ac.uk] has joined #lisp 23:12:09 Fruktsoda [~EchoB@unaffiliated/fruktsoda] has joined #lisp 23:14:52 -!- HET2 [~diman@w220.engin.cf.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:15:40 -!- Ralith [~ralith@216.162.199.202] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:16:20 Ralith [~ralith@216.162.199.202] has joined #lisp 23:16:42 -!- milanj [~milanj_@93.87.166.29] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:17:45 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 23:18:04 fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has joined #lisp 23:19:41 -!- zomgbie [~jesus@mk090152219231.a1.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:21:10 cisticola [~daddy@202.134.251.153] has joined #lisp 23:22:07 mattrepl [~mattrepl@pool-72-83-118-99.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 23:22:19 -!- fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:22:49 sepult [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-185-166.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 23:23:10 -!- mattrepl [~mattrepl@pool-72-83-118-99.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:26:37 -!- Yuuhi [benni@p5483C7D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:27:37 Dawgmatix [~dman@c-76-124-9-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:29:02 tritchey [~tritchey@c-98-226-81-194.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:30:42 -!- grouzen [~grouzen@91.214.124.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:33:22 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #lisp 23:35:16 fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has joined #lisp 23:39:38 -!- fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:40:05 benny` [~benny@i577A8411.versanet.de] has joined #lisp 23:43:05 -!- benny [~benny@i577A7997.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:43:17 -!- tritchey [~tritchey@c-98-226-81-194.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: tritchey] 23:47:48 DerGuteMoritz [~syn@85.88.17.198] has joined #lisp 23:48:58 -!- t3eblinder [~wolfgang@p5B200E6A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:49:35 -!- marioxcc-AFK is now known as marioxcc 23:49:59 powerje [~powerje@adsl-75-49-18-32.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 23:52:33 fgtech [fgtech@193.219.39.203] has joined #lisp 23:53:29 -!- netytan [~netytan@85.211.16.208] has quit [Quit: netytan] 23:54:15 guys, parentheses, what's the deal! 23:56:20 Linuxiano [~BjornLope@201.160.239.146.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #lisp 23:56:37 abugosh [~Adium@216-164-114-53.c3-0.tlg-ubr3.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #lisp 23:56:53 -!- mindCrime [~chatzilla@cpe-075-189-213-049.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:57:34 -!- benny` is now known as benny