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sbcl's extensible sequences are "standardized", though i think sbcl is the only implementation supporting it "so far" (though that's been the case since 2007 or so) http://www.doc.gold.ac.uk/~mas01cr/papers/ilc2007/sequences-20070301.pdf 2016-12-09T20:45:22Z fiddlerwoaroof: phf thanks 2016-12-09T20:46:47Z fiddlerwoaroof: I've read that paper, I've been working on a library for wrapping up the pattern where you have one class that's essentially a collection of another class + some metadata in slots and I was wondering if I could get my class to behave like sequences on most implementations. 2016-12-09T20:46:49Z phf: i looked at implementing them back when chrodes did that write up, but at the time it was beyond my abilities. it's pretty easy to hook into the error cases of corresponding methods, but i'm not sure how that properly ties into type system 2016-12-09T20:48:23Z phf: yeah, unfortunately nobody's supporting it, even the progressive implementations like ecl. ccl would've actually benefited from the spec, because of all the foreign cocoa/objc interop, where treating objc arrays as sequences would've been quite handy 2016-12-09T20:53:39Z fiddlerwoaroof: That's too bad, what would the issue on ccl with the type system be? 2016-12-09T20:56:05Z phf: oh it's not an issue, just somebody who knows how ccl's type system works needs to look at it. 2016-12-09T20:56:32Z schjetne joined #ccl 2016-12-09T20:57:34Z fiddlerwoaroof: I gues, I'm wondering how much work it would be to add it and, if I implemented it, how much work it would be to get the changes accepted. 2016-12-09T21:02:52Z phf: so it's really no work at all to add it on the obvious level. you extract relevant mit licensed bits out of sbcl, and wire them as last clauses in corresponding functions (they all follow basically same pattern: typecase on sequence, it's either list, array, or ... finally error out). what you need to figure out is how to make the type system make correct decisions about this change to sequences. it might be a non issue, might be a fair 2016-12-09T21:02:53Z phf: bit of understanding required. 2016-12-09T21:03:24Z phf: when i mentioned it to gbyers one time he was open to the idea, so i suspect that if you make a patch it would go in pretty smooth, but then i can't talk for maintainers 2016-12-09T21:24:13Z phf: fiddlerwoaroof: actually let me know if you decide to tackle it or not. i wouldn't mind taking a stab at it again 2016-12-09T21:24:50Z fiddlerwoaroof: phf: I'm not sure, if you want to take a stab at it, I'd go ahead 2016-12-09T21:25:01Z fiddlerwoaroof: I'm a bit busy at the moment 2016-12-09T21:26:15Z phf: likewise. sort of the bane of opensource, when you have enough time to contribute you probably don't know enough, but when you know enough you probably don't have time to contribute. 2016-12-09T21:26:59Z fiddlerwoaroof: Is anyone behind ccl interested in doing something like bountysource.com? 2016-12-09T21:27:00Z phf: anyway, i'll see how far i get 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