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When the Hunchentoot is under high load CCL breaks with failure. I've attached the GDB to the Lisp kernel the problem in bits.c:44. 2016-10-03T23:26:58Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-03T23:31:41Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2016-10-03T23:37:08Z hhdave_ quit (Quit: hhdave_) 2016-10-03T23:47:55Z gbyers: Im having problems with my eyesight now but will try to look when i can 2016-10-03T23:50:33Z dmitigr quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-10-04T00:07:26Z sjl quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-10-04T02:25:13Z pierpa quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-10-04T03:14:43Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-04T03:19:05Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-10-04T05:40:28Z edgar-rft quit (Quit: edgar-rft) 2016-10-04T07:16:33Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-04T07:21:13Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-10-04T07:55:47Z hhdave joined #ccl 2016-10-04T10:14:46Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-04T10:19:21Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-10-04T10:34:55Z sjl joined #ccl 2016-10-04T10:52:16Z aries_liuxueyang quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 2016-10-04T10:53:35Z aries_liuxueyang joined #ccl 2016-10-04T11:23:09Z edgar-rft joined #ccl 2016-10-04T11:30:30Z rudolfochrist joined #ccl 2016-10-04T11:51:58Z rudolfochrist quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-10-04T12:15:48Z aries_liuxueyang quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-10-04T12:16:45Z sigjuice quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2016-10-04T12:16:48Z aries_liuxueyang joined #ccl 2016-10-04T12:21:00Z sigjuice joined #ccl 2016-10-04T13:05:38Z nzambe joined #ccl 2016-10-04T13:11:36Z pierpa joined #ccl 2016-10-04T13:31:12Z pierpa` joined #ccl 2016-10-04T13:32:32Z pierpa` quit (Client Quit) 2016-10-04T13:42:49Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-04T13:48:26Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-10-04T14:00:03Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-10-04T14:14:33Z pierpa quit (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 2016-10-04T14:14:51Z pierpa joined #ccl 2016-10-04T14:47:09Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-04T14:57:49Z rudolfochrist joined #ccl 2016-10-04T15:06:29Z rudolfochrist quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2016-10-04T15:29:57Z sjl joined #ccl 2016-10-04T15:31:36Z rudolfochrist joined #ccl 2016-10-04T15:34:35Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-10-04T15:52:09Z rudolfochrist quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2016-10-04T16:24:35Z ddp joined #ccl 2016-10-04T16:24:36Z rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-04T16:24:51Z ddp quit (Client Quit) 2016-10-04T16:25:02Z ddp joined #ccl 2016-10-04T16:25:18Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-04T16:31:59Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2016-10-04T16:43:06Z hhdave quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2016-10-04T16:44:26Z nzambe quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-10-04T17:03:18Z edgar-rft quit (Quit: edgar-rft) 2016-10-04T18:55:58Z edgar-rft joined #ccl 2016-10-04T19:19:45Z schjetne quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-04T19:21:08Z schjetne joined #ccl 2016-10-04T19:28:59Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-04T19:45:05Z rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-04T19:46:15Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-04T19:53:22Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-10-04T19:55:13Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-04T22:00:00Z rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-04T22:33:58Z edgar-rft quit (Quit: edgar-rft) 2016-10-04T23:02:51Z LahlStephan joined #ccl 2016-10-04T23:03:31Z StephanLahl quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-10-04T23:06:36Z LahlStephan is now known as StephanLahl 2016-10-05T00:20:26Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-05T00:25:00Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-10-05T00:37:18Z gendl: This is a bit of a long shot, but does anyone remember the discussion from several months back about portable aserve with CCL 1.11? 2016-10-05T00:38:28Z gendl: I believe there was an issue with IPv6, where forcing something to IPv4 could be at least a workaround. 2016-10-05T00:39:25Z gendl: I see the logs here: http://ccl.clozure.com/irc-logs/lisp/ but is there a way to do a search without knowing the exact date or month? 2016-10-05T00:39:49Z |3b|: google for site:http://.../lisp/ term ? 2016-10-05T00:49:17Z |3b|: http://ccl.clozure.com/irc-logs/ccl/ccl-2015-10.txt ? 2016-10-05T00:50:47Z |3b|: (helps if you don't search logs for #lisp when looking for things on #ccl :p ) 2016-10-05T01:03:22Z gendl: |3b|: you mean go through and search one month at a time? 2016-10-05T01:04:11Z |3b|: no, i just didn't want to type in the whole url 2016-10-05T01:04:43Z gendl: Oh, you found the month for me! 2016-10-05T01:05:01Z gendl: 2015-10 is the correct month. How did you know? 2016-10-05T01:05:02Z |3b|: in google (and some other search engines) site:URL limits the search to (subdirectories) of URL 2016-10-05T01:06:00Z |3b|: search google for site:http://ccl.clozure.com/irc-logs/ccl/ aserve ipv6 2016-10-05T01:06:36Z |3b|: 2015-10 is only hit here 2016-10-05T01:44:40Z gendl: Ok got pretty much back up to speed on the CCL/paserve issues, from 2015-10 and 2015-11. There are a couple seemingly unrelated issues. 2016-10-05T01:45:33Z gendl: One of them is that acl-compat clobbers ccl:socket-error. I'm about to prepare a portableaserve patch for that one -- adding a (:shadow ccl:socket-error) in the package definition seems to fix it. 2016-10-05T01:48:16Z gendl: The second issue is that aserve doesn't survive a shutdown & restart, but as hhdave noted, that can be worked around by doing 2016-10-05T01:48:33Z gendl: (setq net.aserve:*wserver* (net.aserve :start :port 9000 :server :new)) 2016-10-05T01:48:47Z gendl: for the restart. Should be fixed deeper than that, but that's the workaround for now... 2016-10-05T01:51:47Z gendl: The third thing (and only remaining issue I'm aware of), is the client call (net.aserve:do-http-request ...) ends up calling ccl:make-socket, which tries IPv6 when that protocol isn't supported by the aserve server (as discussed in http://ccl.clozure.com/irc-logs/ccl/ccl-2015-10.txt). Barring any other ideas from here, I'll look for a workaround for that 2016-10-05T01:51:47Z gendl: now... 2016-10-05T02:08:46Z ekinmur joined #ccl 2016-10-05T02:39:59Z pierpa quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2016-10-05T03:19:33Z ekinmur quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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But I'm unsure how do I create the stat object that %%stat expects? Is my impression correct? 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I compiled a file, and it errors with Serious errors encountered during compilation of "/Users/xach/src/aserve/proxy.cl" 2016-10-27T20:09:13Z Xach_: How can I tell which the serious errors are? 2016-10-27T20:09:42Z Xach_: There are plenty of problems with undefined functions and lambda list mismatches and things. 2016-10-27T20:19:10Z ddp quit (Quit: ddp) 2016-10-27T20:28:13Z carvite quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-10-27T20:52:52Z carvite joined #ccl 2016-10-27T21:13:32Z carvite quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-27T21:13:41Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2016-10-27T21:48:04Z carvite joined #ccl 2016-10-27T22:10:55Z carvite quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2016-10-27T22:26:38Z carvite joined #ccl 2016-10-27T22:41:43Z rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-27T22:47:12Z carvite quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-10-27T23:10:48Z ddp joined #ccl 2016-10-27T23:22:21Z carvite joined #ccl 2016-10-27T23:26:04Z fUD joined #ccl 2016-10-27T23:36:10Z carvite quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-10-27T23:36:46Z ddp quit (Quit: ddp) 2016-10-28T00:03:55Z carvite joined #ccl 2016-10-28T01:44:00Z pierpa quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-10-28T01:50:18Z DavidGu joined #ccl 2016-10-28T01:59:49Z ddp joined #ccl 2016-10-28T02:11:33Z DavidGu quit (Quit: DavidGu) 2016-10-28T02:12:53Z DavidGu joined #ccl 2016-10-28T02:17:26Z DavidGu1 joined #ccl 2016-10-28T02:17:52Z DavidGu quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-28T02:17:53Z DavidGu1 is now known as DavidGu 2016-10-28T02:23:41Z DavidGu quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-28T02:25:12Z DavidGu joined #ccl 2016-10-28T02:25:40Z ddp quit (Quit: ddp) 2016-10-28T02:31:52Z fUD quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2016-10-28T02:42:07Z DavidGu quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-28T02:47:23Z DavidGu joined #ccl 2016-10-28T03:43:20Z DavidGu quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-28T03:43:35Z DavidGu joined #ccl 2016-10-28T03:45:30Z fUD joined #ccl 2016-10-28T04:03:04Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-28T04:07:32Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-28T04:46:42Z ddp joined #ccl 2016-10-28T05:12:38Z ddp quit (Quit: ddp) 2016-10-28T07:49:24Z edgar-rft joined #ccl 2016-10-28T08:12:16Z rudolfochrist joined #ccl 2016-10-28T08:31:29Z jdz quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-28T08:34:01Z DavidGu quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-10-28T08:36:12Z hhdave joined #ccl 2016-10-28T08:37:11Z DavidGu joined #ccl 2016-10-28T08:37:14Z jdz joined #ccl 2016-10-28T08:45:18Z hhdave_ joined #ccl 2016-10-28T08:45:18Z hhdave quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-10-28T08:45:18Z hhdave_ is now known as hhdave 2016-10-28T08:48:11Z loke joined #ccl 2016-10-28T08:48:18Z loke: Hello CCL 2016-10-28T08:49:14Z hhdave_ joined #ccl 2016-10-28T08:50:16Z hhdave quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2016-10-28T08:50:16Z hhdave_ is now known as hhdave 2016-10-28T08:59:08Z rudolfochrist quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-28T10:39:47Z rjid joined #ccl 2016-10-28T12:01:00Z sjl joined #ccl 2016-10-28T12:53:29Z DavidGu quit (Quit: DavidGu) 2016-10-28T12:56:05Z rjid quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-28T13:06:30Z DavidGu joined #ccl 2016-10-28T13:12:32Z arbv quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-28T13:13:02Z arbv joined #ccl 2016-10-28T13:20:48Z Xach_: loke: hello 2016-10-28T13:26:37Z DavidGu quit (Quit: DavidGu) 2016-10-28T13:36:10Z DavidGu joined #ccl 2016-10-28T14:20:30Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-28T14:50:38Z rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-28T14:54:59Z rudolfochrist joined #ccl 2016-10-28T15:17:00Z DavidGu quit (Quit: DavidGu) 2016-10-28T15:28:18Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-28T15:28:48Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-28T15:30:20Z rudolfochrist quit (Quit: ERC (IRC client for Emacs 25.1.1)) 2016-10-28T15:43:42Z pierpa joined #ccl 2016-10-28T15:56:44Z akkad: aserve? 2016-10-28T15:57:42Z akkad: Xach_ is it all to the same stderr/stdout? or are they split? 2016-10-28T16:10:45Z rjid joined #ccl 2016-10-28T16:10:48Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-28T16:12:31Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-28T16:40:04Z mjl quit (Write error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-10-28T16:42:10Z eschatologist quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2016-10-28T16:43:56Z mjl joined #ccl 2016-10-28T16:45:11Z eschatologist joined #ccl 2016-10-28T16:46:37Z hhdave quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-10-28T17:07:06Z Xach_: akkad: I don't know. 2016-10-28T17:07:22Z Xach_: akkad: I worked through and fixed up all argument mismatches and a few other things and it compiles now. 2016-10-28T17:09:55Z akkad: thought all that aserve portable got fixed from the franz .cl nomenclature 2016-10-28T17:11:14Z Xach_: This is a more general question about what makes ccl issue the "Serious errors encountered" error. 2016-10-28T17:58:55Z gz__: As I recall, compile-time warnings are classified into style warnings and non-style warnings, and it gives that error at the end if there were any non-style warnings. 2016-10-28T18:02:29Z gz__: No, actually, it’s not style vs non-style. It’s non-program-error’s vs program-error’s. 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I asked if there was a way to get a sub-second-resolution current time, and I turned away empty handed. Then yesterday I found CCL:CURRENT-TIME-IN-NANOSECONDS, which is exactly what I was looking for. Yay! 2016-10-29T17:43:12Z pierpa: (for the benefit of people reading in the logs my previous question and who got the idea that there wasn't such a function) 2016-10-29T17:54:30Z sjl joined #ccl 2016-10-29T20:11:30Z rjid754 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-29T21:25:23Z rudolfochrist quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-10-29T21:44:54Z ddp quit (Read error: No route to host) 2016-10-29T21:45:07Z ddp joined #ccl 2016-10-29T23:13:22Z hhdave_ joined #ccl 2016-10-29T23:40:25Z fiddlerwoaroof_ joined #ccl 2016-10-29T23:43:01Z fiddlerwoaroof quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-30T00:09:58Z hhdave_ quit (Quit: hhdave_) 2016-10-30T00:15:02Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-10-30T00:24:15Z PuercoPop: I've found a bug in ccl (and ecl). The destructuring bind in loop should bind variables to nil if there are more values than variables (as per 6.1.1.7). 2016-10-30T00:25:03Z PuercoPop: This is the reduced case is someone is interested in hunting the bug down. (loop :with (a b) := '(nil) :for i :upto 2 :collect t) 2016-10-30T00:26:06Z PuercoPop: (After I started reading library/loop I got discouraged) 2016-10-30T00:42:12Z |3b|: looks like ccl and sbcl loop are still close enough that you might be able to use sbcl fix https://github.com/sbcl/sbcl/commit/c42076a971dab88d6b25a3b9a9723aff1465153e 2016-10-30T00:43:19Z |3b|: adding &optional to the destructuring-bind in loop-build-destructuring-bindings 2016-10-30T00:43:23Z PuercoPop: |3b|: nice! 2016-10-30T00:44:16Z |3b| thought that problem sounded familiar, https://bugs.launchpad.net/sbcl/+bug/695286 :) 2016-10-30T00:51:39Z |3b|: looks like differences in that function are doing same thing different ways, so &optional is probably equally valid there for CCL 2016-10-30T00:56:50Z PuercoPop: |3b|: unfortunately ccl has a different implementation in that part (which I suspect is the older version as a similar version of loop-build-destructuring-bindings is in ABCL) 2016-10-30T00:59:50Z |3b|: yeah, but close enough 2016-10-30T01:00:21Z |3b|: `((destructuring-bind (&optional ,@(subst-gensyms-for-nil (car crocks))) ... 2016-10-30T01:01:02Z |3b|: sbcl just factored some of it out into separate function, but seems to do same thing 2016-10-30T01:02:34Z |3b|: that refactoring was added at same time as subst-gensyms-for-nil, which fixed some other problem with the bindings, looks like CCL added same fix just without the refactoring 2016-10-30T01:03:01Z |3b|: but as far as i can tell they are still equivalent 2016-10-30T01:09:28Z |3b|: https://github.com/sbcl/sbcl/commit/731bc63e2e5c9bac2799c299e37d7654579b0716 is the sbcl refactor/fix, ccl history doesn't seem to go back far enough, but result seems like same fix just without the refactor 2016-10-30T01:16:26Z pierpa: what a pity all this duplicate work :( 2016-10-30T01:17:12Z PuercoPop: pierpa: beach's sicl loop can be loaded in any implemetation 2016-10-30T01:17:13Z |3b|: well, lots of the other divergence probably is less duplicated, like impl specific optimization 2016-10-30T01:17:57Z pierpa: puercopop: yes, but it has not happened that there's one implementation used by all 2016-10-30T01:18:36Z |3b|: MIT loop was used by most 2016-10-30T01:18:48Z |3b|: clisp i think is notable exception 2016-10-30T01:18:55Z PuercoPop: pierpa: but you can always load it in your application code. clsql distributes its own loop code to allow extending the clause extension by the user (and doing so for sql queries) 2016-10-30T01:19:00Z pierpa: yes, because of licence reasons 2016-10-30T01:19:12Z pierpa: clisp ^ 2016-10-30T01:19:27Z |3b|: just was used too long ago, so didn't have time to accumulate enough fixes :) 2016-10-30T01:25:40Z pierpa: someone happens to know what is the epoch of CCL:CURRENT-TIME-IN-NANOSECONDS in various OSes? is it 1970-01-01 un *all* the unixes? or what? 2016-10-30T01:26:58Z pierpa: *in 2016-10-30T01:32:19Z pierpa: ok, in apple seems to be 1970-01-01 2016-10-30T02:31:52Z fUD quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2016-10-30T03:30:18Z macdavid313 joined #ccl 2016-10-30T03:55:26Z macdavid313_ joined #ccl 2016-10-30T03:55:30Z macdavid313_ quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-30T04:40:10Z rjid joined #ccl 2016-10-30T04:42:37Z macdavid313 quit (Quit: macdavid313) 2016-10-30T05:58:41Z pierpa quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-10-30T06:03:40Z macdavid313 joined #ccl 2016-10-30T06:45:39Z macdavid314 joined #ccl 2016-10-30T06:47:06Z macdavid313 quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-10-30T06:47:07Z macdavid314 is now known as macdavid313 2016-10-30T06:51:44Z macdavid313 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-30T06:53:05Z macdavid313 joined #ccl 2016-10-30T07:05:38Z macdavid314 joined #ccl 2016-10-30T07:08:53Z macdavid313 quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-10-30T07:08:54Z macdavid314 is now known as macdavid313 2016-10-30T08:37:31Z rudolfochrist joined #ccl 2016-10-30T09:47:00Z rjid quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-30T09:55:46Z rudolfochrist quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-10-30T11:39:27Z sjl joined #ccl 2016-10-30T12:52:01Z rudolfochrist joined #ccl 2016-10-30T12:56:36Z rudolfochrist quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-10-30T12:59:24Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-30T13:03:56Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-30T13:28:04Z rjid joined #ccl 2016-10-30T14:19:10Z edgar-rft quit (Quit: edgar-rft) 2016-10-30T14:26:52Z rjid quit (Quit: Page closed) 2016-10-30T14:36:27Z rudolfochrist joined #ccl 2016-10-30T15:28:30Z macdavid313 quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-10-30T15:52:24Z pierpa joined #ccl 2016-10-30T16:03:29Z rudolfochrist quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-30T16:37:39Z sjl quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-10-30T17:27:54Z sjl joined #ccl 2016-10-30T18:53:40Z rjid joined #ccl 2016-10-30T19:43:51Z arbv quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-10-30T19:44:13Z arbv joined #ccl 2016-10-30T20:26:55Z rjid quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-30T22:55:44Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-30T23:25:29Z sjl quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-10-30T23:42:31Z macdavid313 joined #ccl 2016-10-30T23:47:02Z macdavid313 quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2016-10-31T00:19:53Z macdavid313 joined #ccl 2016-10-31T00:24:40Z edgar-rft joined #ccl 2016-10-31T00:46:44Z macdavid313 quit (Quit: macdavid313) 2016-10-31T00:46:52Z macdavid313 joined #ccl 2016-10-31T00:58:37Z macdavid313 quit (Quit: macdavid313) 2016-10-31T01:01:23Z rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-31T01:25:43Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-31T01:52:13Z pierpa` joined #ccl 2016-10-31T01:53:52Z pierpa quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-10-31T02:04:06Z loke left #ccl 2016-10-31T02:04:10Z loke joined #ccl 2016-10-31T03:10:31Z pierpa` is now known as pierpa 2016-10-31T03:20:00Z rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-31T03:20:14Z pierpa: If anybody could test this code on OSes other than Windows and confirm it works as intended, it would be great https://github.com/olopierpa/CCL-UTime 2016-10-31T03:21:57Z loke: pierpa: You need to test on a non-windows system? 2016-10-31T03:23:06Z pierpa: yes, it would be great 2016-10-31T03:23:50Z pierpa: what it needs to be tested is if the epoch is correct. 2016-10-31T03:24:03Z loke: Sure. Can you give me a test case, and I'll run it for you 2016-10-31T03:24:15Z loke: Preferably a .lisp file I can load in my CCL and I can send you the output. 2016-10-31T03:25:10Z pierpa: compare the result of the functions with what get-universal-time returns. The integer part should be the same 2016-10-31T03:25:43Z loke: pierpa: I'm a bit busy now, and while I'm happy to run a test for you, I don't want to look at functions and do manual comparisons. 2016-10-31T03:25:53Z pierpa: oki 2016-10-31T03:26:00Z loke: Sorry about that. 2016-10-31T03:26:26Z pierpa: (defun test () (values (get-universal-time) (utime:get-universal-time-ii))) 2016-10-31T03:26:51Z loke: What is utime? 2016-10-31T03:26:54Z pierpa: this should return two equal values, or two values differing by 1 in extremely rare cases :) 2016-10-31T03:27:00Z pierpa: is a package 2016-10-31T03:27:16Z loke: Sno such package 2016-10-31T03:27:45Z loke: Oh, it's in the github 2016-10-31T03:27:54Z pierpa: that is the code which be tested, I pasted the link above. If you are busy it doesn't matter. 2016-10-31T03:28:03Z pierpa: thank you anyway 2016-10-31T03:28:09Z loke: let's see... 2016-10-31T03:30:08Z loke: They are not equal on my Arch Linux system 2016-10-31T03:30:16Z loke: 3686873396 and 2209599296 2016-10-31T03:30:40Z pierpa: ok. thank you. 2016-10-31T03:30:43Z loke: The two last digits seems to be always identical. 2016-10-31T03:31:09Z pierpa: what does (ccl:current-time-in-nanoseconds) returns? 2016-10-31T03:31:52Z loke: The difference between the values are always exactly the same: 1477274100 2016-10-31T03:32:08Z pierpa: ok. thank you 2016-10-31T03:32:23Z loke: I guess your UNIVERSAL-TIME-EPOCH-IN-PRECISE-TIME is incorrect for Linux 2016-10-31T03:32:53Z loke: I hope that helps 2016-10-31T03:32:53Z pierpa: yes, exactly 2016-10-31T03:33:00Z pierpa: I assumed 1970-01-01 2016-10-31T03:33:05Z pierpa: sure it helps. ty 2016-10-31T03:33:10Z loke: I would have assumed that too 2016-10-31T03:33:26Z loke: Why don't you just use LOCAL-TIME. That one seems to have this stuff giured out. 2016-10-31T03:33:44Z pierpa: hmmm 2016-10-31T03:33:57Z pierpa: these are function 2 lines each 2016-10-31T03:34:57Z pierpa: and anyway local-time does not support windows 2016-10-31T03:35:22Z loke: pierpa: You should contribute a fix then :-) 2016-10-31T03:35:34Z pierpa: maybe. but it's not easy. 2016-10-31T03:43:26Z fUD joined #ccl 2016-10-31T03:48:32Z pierpa: the epoch for your system is 1900-01-01. Maybe ccl does the conversion to universal time epoch, but then why does it do it for linux and not for windows? it's a mistery! 2016-10-31T03:58:52Z loke: pierpa: I can't help you there. :-) 2016-10-31T04:00:31Z pierpa: :) 2016-10-31T04:01:15Z pierpa: the code for linux uses clock_gettime and afaiu does no conversion 2016-10-31T04:08:13Z pierpa: aha! ok. got it. 2016-10-31T04:51:27Z rjid joined #ccl 2016-10-31T07:12:40Z rjid quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-31T07:46:48Z pierpa quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-31T08:13:33Z edgar-rft quit (Quit: edgar-rft) 2016-10-31T08:20:48Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-31T08:25:04Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-31T09:47:09Z edgar-rft joined #ccl 2016-10-31T11:17:36Z arbv quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2016-10-31T11:20:50Z arbv joined #ccl 2016-10-31T12:07:38Z sjl joined #ccl 2016-10-31T12:21:23Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-31T12:25:52Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2016-10-31T12:30:06Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-31T12:46:31Z rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-31T12:50:27Z sjl quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-10-31T12:51:21Z sjl joined #ccl 2016-10-31T13:47:38Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-31T13:48:37Z rudolfochrist joined #ccl 2016-10-31T13:52:29Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2016-10-31T13:57:34Z rumbler31 joined #ccl 2016-10-31T15:55:34Z mordocai quit (Quit: ZNC 1.6.2+deb1 - http://znc.in) 2016-10-31T15:58:24Z mordocai joined #ccl 2016-10-31T15:59:13Z mordocai quit (Client Quit) 2016-10-31T16:00:59Z mordocai joined #ccl 2016-10-31T16:35:16Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-10-31T17:07:44Z sjl joined #ccl 2016-10-31T17:17:08Z rudolfochrist quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-10-31T17:57:40Z rudolfochrist joined #ccl 2016-10-31T18:37:54Z eschatologist quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-10-31T18:38:14Z eschatologist joined #ccl 2016-10-31T18:51:30Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-10-31T19:16:51Z rudolfochrist quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2016-10-31T19:17:03Z rudolfochrist joined #ccl 2016-10-31T20:01:30Z pierpa joined #ccl 2016-10-31T21:32:31Z sjl joined #ccl 2016-10-31T21:38:10Z rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-10-31T23:30:45Z rudolfochrist quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2016-10-31T23:56:34Z john-mcaleely quit (Quit: Coyote finally caught me) 2016-10-31T23:57:05Z john-mcaleely joined #ccl