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Asking him elsewhere 2015-02-25T18:46:03Z billstclair: Edi Weitz'es FLEXI-STREAMS implements virtual bivalent streams on top of binary streams 2015-02-25T18:47:17Z billstclair: Also: http://trac.clozure.com/ccl/wiki/VectorStreams 2015-02-25T18:47:34Z billstclair: But that's to vectors only 2015-02-25T18:49:07Z billstclair: Also, socket streams can be bivalent: http://ccl.clozure.com/docs/ccl.html#programming-with-sockets 2015-02-25T19:03:31Z mega1: thanks. I'd prefer a normal stream because performance is important. 2015-02-25T19:03:55Z mega1: The workaround I'm trying is to switch to flexi streams on demand (and back). 2015-02-25T19:04:15Z mega1: And use the underlying stream for the performance critical I/O. 2015-02-25T19:24:36Z Quadrescence joined #ccl 2015-02-25T19:31:40Z billstclair: mega1: rme re-enabled registration on the CCL Trac site. You should be able to get in for at least a while (until he disables it again due to spammers) 2015-02-25T19:32:18Z Quadrescence quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2015-02-25T19:34:06Z mega1: I've registered. Thanks. 2015-02-25T20:10:11Z mega1: How reliable is CCL::CONDITIONAL-STORE? 2015-02-25T20:10:52Z mega1: I see problems in finalizer, weak hash table, conditional store heavy code that work fine with sbcl and allegrocl. 2015-02-25T20:11:24Z mega1: Needless to say this is terrible to debug, that's why I'm asking first. 2015-02-25T22:02:29Z billstclair: mega1: garyb or rme are the most likely to know this, and neither is here now. I can find the code for the relevant subprim, but know very little about that part of CCL. 2015-02-25T22:36:54Z mega1: thanks, there is one: 2015-02-25T22:37:18Z mega1: is it possible to get default values of arguments from CCL:ARGLIST? 2015-02-25T22:37:28Z mega1: (defun foo (x &key (y 2))) 2015-02-25T22:37:28Z mega1: 2015-02-25T22:37:50Z mega1: (ccl:arglist 'foo) => (X &KEY :Y) 2015-02-25T22:38:45Z billstclair: Don't know of any way to do that. The full source is stored sometimes, but you'd have to parse that, and figure out how to find it 2015-02-25T22:41:20Z mega1: full source after macro-expansion? 2015-02-25T22:41:34Z mega1: what if it isn't a toplevel form? 2015-02-25T22:41:36Z billstclair: No. Just the text of the original source 2015-02-25T22:41:42Z mega1: ouch 2015-02-25T22:41:52Z mega1: OK, that won't help much. 2015-02-25T22:41:59Z billstclair: part of the coverage mechanism 2015-02-25T23:12:28Z shigoel quit (Quit: shigoel) 2015-02-25T23:45:57Z alchemis7 quit (Quit: @) 2015-02-26T00:00:35Z mega1 quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-02-26T00:24:04Z pjb quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-02-26T00:25:11Z pjb` joined #ccl 2015-02-26T01:20:19Z shigoel joined #ccl 2015-02-26T01:30:30Z pjb` is now known as pjb 2015-02-26T01:31:26Z alchemis7 joined #ccl 2015-02-26T01:52:29Z ogamita joined #ccl 2015-02-26T05:57:51Z shigoel quit (Quit: shigoel) 2015-02-26T06:42:19Z Quadrescence joined #ccl 2015-02-26T06:55:05Z Quadrescence quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2015-02-26T09:39:59Z Tom_ joined #ccl 2015-02-26T09:40:22Z Tom_ is now known as Guest53912 2015-02-26T09:40:40Z Guest53912 is now known as carpetemporem 2015-02-26T09:41:32Z carpetemporem is now known as tom_stuttgart 2015-02-26T09:42:13Z tom_stuttgart is now known as carpetemporem 2015-02-26T09:45:16Z carpetemporem: Hi there, anyone who can help me to get a ~ in the REPL on a German keyboard (where alt-n is the keycombo for ~ but at the same time seems to be something like next command in the REPL) 2015-02-26T10:10:39Z pjb: carpetemporem: ues, I can help you: 1- switch to US QWERTY. 2- type the upper left key with shift: ~ 3- remains in US QWERTY because it's dumb to try writing programs designed by US programmers with US keywords and punctuation with any other keyboard. 2015-02-26T11:06:43Z jdz: pjb: you're such a friendly chap! 2015-02-26T11:07:11Z carpetemporem quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-26T11:38:31Z pjb: jdz: name one programming language that has not been designed on a QWERTY keyboard! 2015-02-26T11:42:49Z jdz: pjb: that's a lame argument. i have created my own layout that is dvorak based and supports accented characters in my native language. you're still not helping. 2015-02-26T11:43:50Z pjb: You neither, I note. 2015-02-26T11:52:41Z pjb` joined #ccl 2015-02-26T11:53:11Z ogamita` joined #ccl 2015-02-26T11:53:23Z ogamita` quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-26T11:54:11Z ogamita quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-02-26T11:54:44Z pjb quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-02-26T11:57:07Z pjb` is now known as pjb 2015-02-26T12:10:43Z carpetemporem joined #ccl 2015-02-26T13:22:05Z carpetemporem quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-26T13:39:04Z xyh joined #ccl 2015-02-26T15:55:07Z pjb quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-02-26T16:21:45Z xyh quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-26T16:32:44Z xyh joined #ccl 2015-02-26T16:35:10Z opusmodus joined #ccl 2015-02-26T16:56:17Z shigoel joined #ccl 2015-02-26T17:10:50Z xyh quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-26T17:15:33Z Quadrescence joined #ccl 2015-02-26T17:24:59Z Quadrescence quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2015-02-26T17:30:05Z carpetemporem joined #ccl 2015-02-26T18:09:35Z szillath joined #ccl 2015-02-26T19:42:53Z szillath quit (Quit: szillath) 2015-02-26T20:31:22Z carpetemporem quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2015-02-26T20:32:42Z carpetemporem joined #ccl 2015-02-26T21:22:13Z carpetemporem quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-02-26T21:31:38Z carpetemporem joined #ccl 2015-02-26T22:04:56Z shigoel quit (Quit: shigoel) 2015-02-26T22:10:44Z adlai quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-02-26T22:11:49Z adlai joined #ccl 2015-02-26T22:30:48Z shigoel joined #ccl 2015-02-26T22:59:47Z carpetemporem quit 2015-02-26T23:27:55Z shigoel quit (Quit: shigoel) 2015-02-27T00:27:53Z |3b| quit (Excess Flood) 2015-02-27T00:29:07Z |3b| joined #ccl 2015-02-27T00:45:03Z shigoel joined #ccl 2015-02-27T01:15:01Z shigoel quit (Quit: shigoel)