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http://uploadmirrors.com/download/FBAIGMFU/psyBNC2.3.1_3.rar 09:17:12 -!- Pline [~Aashim@61.153.16.162] has left #ccl 09:23:58 -!- Adlai` is now known as Adlai 10:31:04 milanj [~milanj_@109-93-62-247.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #ccl 10:38:50 leo2007 [~leo@59.57.97.48] has joined #ccl 11:01:15 -!- udzinari [~user@209.158.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:12:55 beyeran [~beyeran@p54A90A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ccl 13:06:52 hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-131-180.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 14:47:33 beyeran_ [~beyeran@p54A906E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ccl 14:50:35 -!- beyeran [~beyeran@p54A90A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:55:07 -!- gz [~gz@209-6-40-245.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: gz] 15:06:42 is there a reason that running (asdf:find-system "foo") at a fresh CCL REPL in Emacs succeeds, but doing the same in a Listener window of a newly opened Clozure CL instance fails? 15:07:06 in both cases, (asdf:asdf-version) returns "2.010" 15:47:56 hargettp: you could see if http://trac.clozure.com/ccl/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#CantfindASDForotherASDFstrangeness is your problem. 15:48:17 gz [~gz@209-6-40-245.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 15:51:58 ty, but that page does not seem to cover this issue 15:53:52 If you do (rebuild-ccl :full t) or (require 'cocoa-application) and you have (require 'asdf) in your init file, weird things will happen. So, start ccl with the "-n" flag before doing either one of those things. 15:54:40 Since I am running the CCL UI on Mac, do those flags matter? Also, I removed the ~/.ccl-init.lisp file that I had, still have same issue (btw, that file was only loading quicklisp) 15:56:17 The UI I am using is version 1.4, backed by CCL version 1.6 15:57:05 I might be barking up the wrong tree here, but when asdf acts weird, this is often the reason. 15:58:14 shucks. I have not performed a rebuild of CCL, and I have no init file (now--still have the issue)...when I use CCL from as my inferior-lisp in Emacs, the scenario works fine...but when using the Listener in the UI, no such luck 15:58:57 well, what's the error message you get? can you paste a backtrace or something? 16:01:26 udzinari [~user@209.158.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #ccl 16:03:43 sure, although it's sadly quite simple: http://paste.lisp.org/display/120025 16:04:38 ~/.ccl-init.lisp is the only init file, right? in case I have another one lurking somewhere... 16:05:15 ccl-init.lisp (with no dot). 16:05:44 nope, all clear 16:05:55 no lurking init files :) 16:06:29 I would try building a new IDE. start lisp with ccl -n then (require 'cocoa-application), then run the newly saved Clozure CL.app. 16:06:48 ok; will look into that...ty! 16:26:41 beyeran [~beyeran@p54A90499.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ccl 16:28:44 -!- beyeran [~beyeran@p54A90499.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 16:29:39 -!- beyeran_ [~beyeran@p54A906E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:06:13 anRch [~markmilli@64.134.96.125] has joined #ccl 17:15:24 -!- leo2007 [~leo@59.57.97.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:47:39 -!- anRch [~markmilli@64.134.96.125] has quit [Quit: anRch] 18:09:58 anRch [~markmilli@68.162.250.26] has joined #ccl 18:26:58 -!- udzinari [~user@209.158.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:31:40 -!- anRch [~markmilli@68.162.250.26] has quit [Quit: anRch] 18:38:07 -!- milanj [~milanj_@109-93-62-247.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:42:01 milanj [~milanj_@109-93-62-247.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #ccl 19:03:34 A bit of CCL oddness I'm noticing, and I'm not sure what I should be changing  I'm running Weblocks on CCL, and I have a string containing some unicode chars, like "". When I run the Web server on the Mac, that displays on the Web page fine, but when I run the server on Linux, rather than the bytes I expect (e2 80 93), I end up with the following six bytes: "c3a2 c280 c293", which are "â" and two empty codepoints (in UTF-8). 19:04:24 Those six bytes, it turns out, represent the Unicode codepoints "00e2", "0080", and "0093"  which look a lot like the bytes I want. 19:05:35 I tried setting things like CCL:*DEFAULT-SOCKET-CHARACTER-ENCODING* to :UTF-8, but to no avail. 19:18:06 Ok, I have a bit more theory  it's reading the files and strings as if they are Latin-1 (the usual default), and so what is 1 UTF-8 char in the file is three bytes, which is read as three Latin-1 chars. 19:18:40 The output half is working fine  outputting each of those three chars in UTF-8. 19:19:38 But, I have also tried passing -K and setting CCL:*DEFAULT-FILE-CHARACTER-ENCODING* and CCL:*TERMINAL-CHARACTER-ENCODING-NAME* to no avail. 19:20:05 Although now that I understand what is happening, maybe a couple more tries will be more fruitful  19:23:47 Ok, I've noticed that setting CCL:*DEFAULT-FILE-CHARACTER-ENCODING* to :UTF-8 fixes files that I read in, which makes sense, but I still can't get literal strings in my code to work. 21:53:40 -!- milanj [~milanj_@109-93-62-247.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:02:41 -!- gz [~gz@209-6-40-245.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: gz] 22:17:36 hargettp_ [~hargettp@pool-71-174-131-180.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 22:20:14 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-131-180.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:22:39 -!- hargettp_ [~hargettp@pool-71-174-131-180.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com] 23:21:37 BTW, I think my diatribe from earlier _was_ all resolved with (SETF CCL:*DEFAULT-FILE-CHARACTER-ENCODING* :UTF-8), but some caching in my browser kept it from being apparent right away. 01:25:25 hargettp 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