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2018-01-12T13:48:29Z kolb: Heya (: , so I managed to install snow leopard via USB, and played around with the OS and a few MCL IDE descendants good stuff! MCLIDE which appears to be a SWANK compatible adaption of MCL’s IDE seems interesting!
2018-01-12T13:49:56Z kolb: Right now I have the first attack of the beach ball of despair, it appears I have managed to hang the Finder, which I think is also the window manager?
2018-01-12T13:50:13Z kolb: Gotta find out how you deal with that on OSX
2018-01-12T13:50:43Z kolb: "Marble of Doom" hah that’s a good one
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2018-01-12T15:22:39Z pjb: kolb: the Finder is a normal application, it's not the window manager.
2018-01-12T15:22:46Z hhdave: kolb: The finder is *not* also the window manager. You can force quit the Finder and the window manager will continue on. Finder should restart. (command-option-escape for force quit). I downloaded 10.6 from the Apple Developer site yesterday and got MCL running in that. I haven’t had chance to play with it much, but it basically works. I might try some of the MCL GUI (toolbox) stuff from the manual. Looks quite straightforward.
2018-01-12T15:22:53Z hhdave: (pjb: you just beat me to it!)
2018-01-12T15:22:56Z pjb: kolb: if the Finder is hung or crashed, you can relaunch it.
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2018-01-12T15:30:58Z kolb: seems it was something more fundamental that got stuck then, I had no other choice but to coldboot it
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