01:39:27 -!- rme [rme@EFDB049.34CA369F.699BA7A6.IP] has quit [Quit: rme] 01:39:27 -!- rme [~rme@50.43.185.124] has quit [Quit: rme] 03:20:36 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.129.44.157] has joined #ccl 03:25:23 alms_ [~alms_@vtelinet-66-220-249-28.vermontel.net] has joined #ccl 03:34:46 -!- alms_ [~alms_@vtelinet-66-220-249-28.vermontel.net] has quit [Quit: alms_] 03:51:51 -!- DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.129.44.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:52:09 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.129.44.157] has joined #ccl 05:29:13 pnpuff [~l@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #ccl 05:29:21 -!- pnpuff [~l@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #ccl 06:04:19 -!- DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.129.44.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:23:00 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.130.117.134] has joined #ccl 06:59:38 -!- DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.130.117.134] has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:09:48 ogamita [~t@AMontsouris-651-1-54-119.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ccl 08:44:28 -!- ogamita [~t@AMontsouris-651-1-54-119.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:44:40 ogamita [~t@AMontsouris-651-1-54-119.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ccl 09:24:53 -!- ogamita [~t@AMontsouris-651-1-54-119.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:36:35 ogamita [~t@AMontsouris-651-1-54-119.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ccl 10:24:10 -!- ogamita [~t@AMontsouris-651-1-54-119.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:11:53 segv- [~mb@95-91-243-189-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #ccl 15:05:46 alms_ [~alms_@vtelinet-66-220-249-28.vermontel.net] has joined #ccl 16:09:16 pnpuff [~l@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #ccl 16:13:00 hi folks... I need some help because of I want understand possibly how is defmacro defined in ccl. Now I'm using the version 1.9-r15765 and when I do M-. in Emacs/Slime i get something like this: "(defmacro defmacro (name arglist ...))" from the macros.lisp file. So my question is : where is defined defmacro? Thanks a lot. 16:19:46 Oh, that's where it's defined, but you need a working lisp to compile that definition. At some point, a lower-level definition must have existed somewhere, but once you've got a bootstrapping image, you can use that defmacro to redefine itself. I think. gbyers will correct me if I got it wrong 16:27:16 Ok, at the moment I've only decompressed the ccl archive and I'm simply using the executable in the ccl directory. so I need to build ccl from its source code to see a lower-level definition of macro? 16:27:43 s/macro/defmacro/ 16:31:13 wws-ubuntu [~wws@p-68-237-141-149.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has joined #ccl 16:31:31 -!- pnpuff [~l@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #ccl 16:31:36 You can look at the source of DEFMACRO (or anything else) in a text editor. DEFMACRO's source is in "ccl/lib/macros.lisp", around line 660. 16:37:35 pnpuff: what I was saying is that there IS no lower-level definition of DEFMACRO 16:37:55 Unless you want to see the machine code it compiles into 16:41:10 -!- wws-ubuntu [wws@clozure-D8D53F0C.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has quit [Ping timeout] 16:42:24 -!- wws-ubuntu [~wws@p-68-237-141-149.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:00:52 pnpuff [~l@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #ccl 17:13:47 -!- pnpuff [~l@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:57:37 -!- alms_ [~alms_@vtelinet-66-220-249-28.vermontel.net] has quit [Quit: alms_] 17:58:13 alms_ [~alms_@vtelinet-66-220-249-28.vermontel.net] has joined #ccl 18:58:40 nopro [~nopro@ks-67-239-121-19.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ccl 19:24:51 wws-ubuntu [~wws@p-68-237-141-149.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has joined #ccl 21:02:42 moorhead [~moorhead@host-231-244.dhcp.pdx.edu] has joined #ccl 21:26:08 -!- alms_ [~alms_@vtelinet-66-220-249-28.vermontel.net] has quit [Quit: alms_] 21:46:21 -!- nopro [~nopro@ks-67-239-121-19.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48:52 -!- wws-ubuntu [wws@clozure-D8D53F0C.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has quit [Ping timeout] 21:50:24 -!- wws-ubuntu [~wws@p-68-237-141-149.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:52:39 nopro [~nopro@ks-67-239-121-19.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ccl 22:44:25 -!- nopro [~nopro@ks-67-239-121-19.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51:47 nopro [~nopro@ks-67-239-121-19.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ccl 23:01:19 jangle_ [~jimmy1984@c-98-233-111-131.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 23:52:33 Kenjin [~kenjin@180.189.170.78] has joined #ccl