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(or have a look at cl-fad if it has something like that but I don't remember). 14:55:11 I don't think CL-FAD has a function for this. At least I can't find 14:55:11 it. But I thought about sending Edi a patch. 14:55:36 Seems like something that would fit into CL-FAD. 14:56:34 do you by any chance know how it 14:56:53 is handled in other implementations? 14:57:52 you could use pathname readers to build the unix path I guess. 14:59:12 but this could be a problem with some implementation on path with a final dot. 14:59:30 Also, some implementation map the .~n~ suffix to version n. 14:59:38 i believe it should be the implementations matter of what a native 14:59:39 pathname looks like 14:59:56 Yes. So if it doesn't return the right string, it should be a bug. 15:00:12 Whats "it"? 15:00:20 namestring ? 15:00:45 Yes but then CCL would be considered buggy 15:01:20 with wich I somewhat agree, because I don't know what the escaped 15:01:20 output of CCL's NAMESTRING is used for. 15:02:44 Because it doesnt matter if you feed the output NAMESTRING or 15:02:45 NATIVE-TRANSLATED-NAMESTRING into PATHNAME. 15:03:43 That makes me think about cocoa that has -[NSURL fileReferenceURL] and -[NSURL isFileReferenceURL], using a trick with a prefix on the url path, that could possibly exist in a real file system (if improbable). 15:04:26 AFAIK, the only constrain on the output of namestring is that it should be acceptable input for parse-namestring, and return an equalp pathname. 15:04:36 I have zero clue about cocoa (Im using CCL for its ARM port) 15:05:06 The implementation could add the constrain that namestring on a physical pathname on a POSIX system is the POSIX path. 15:05:38 wakeup: well, ok, Cocoa is not necessarily a reference in how to do things right, even if it's not too bad in general :-) 15:05:54 I have heard good things about ObjC 15:06:13 well, all is relative, until you make lisp enter the picture. :-) 15:06:19 like that its a lot like C with a rather sane OO system 15:06:46 Well yeah we're spoiled ;) 15:08:20 I think I'll ignore the problem for now, and ask for opinions on 15:08:20 comp.lang.lisp. See how other implementations do it, what others would 15:08:20 expect... 15:10:18 I'm sorry I can't use clall right now, I switched to debian and I've not recovered all the installation yet. 15:10:35 I tried defining NAMESTRING to be NATIVE-TRANSLATED-NAMESTRING in 15:10:35 order to avoid the problem with a dirty trick... as deserved eveyrthing 15:10:35 locked up after that, maybe I'll try again harder 15:14:28 mc40 [~mc@host86-148-141-128.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ccl 15:14:29 Use packages to define your own versions of operators. 15:15:01 (defpackage :mine (:export :namestring)) (defun mine:namestring () ) 15:20:30 -!- wakeup [~user@xdsl-89-0-180-92.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:28:45 -!- mdc_mobile [mdc@clozure-95EBCF81.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 15:28:47 -!- mdc_mobile [~mdc_mobil@c-67-188-115-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:29:26 mdc_mobile [~mdc_mobil@c-67-188-115-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 15:36:56 -!- mc40 [~mc@host86-148-141-128.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: mc40] 15:40:21 -!- mdc_mobile [mdc@clozure-95EBCF81.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout] 15:42:06 -!- mdc_mobile [~mdc_mobil@c-67-188-115-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:42:29 mdc_mobile [~mdc_mobil@c-67-188-115-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 15:59:33 mc40 [~mc@86.148.141.128] has joined #ccl 16:21:58 -!- mc40 [~mc@86.148.141.128] has quit [Quit: mc40] 18:09:17 bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 18:56:51 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: bhyde] 19:01:47 sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 19:01:49 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:03:10 sellout [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 19:18:24 mc40 [~mc@host86-148-141-128.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ccl 19:47:51 -!- mdc_mobile [mdc@clozure-95EBCF81.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 19:48:17 mdc_ [~mdc_mobil@c-67-188-115-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 19:48:18 -!- mdc_mobile [~mdc_mobil@c-67-188-115-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:18 -!- mdc_ is now known as mdc_mobile 20:04:39 bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 20:12:29 -!- mdc_mobile [~mdc_mobil@c-67-188-115-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13:31 mdc_mobile [~mdc_mobil@c-67-188-115-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 20:50:27 -!- mc40 [~mc@host86-148-141-128.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: mc40] 21:07:32 -!- mdc_mobile [mdc@clozure-95EBCF81.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 21:07:45 mdc_ [~mdc_mobil@c-67-188-115-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 21:07:45 -!- mdc_mobile [~mdc_mobil@c-67-188-115-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07:46 -!- mdc_ is now known as mdc_mobile 21:40:48 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: bhyde]