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I see there is now a 1.9 directory in release. 16:32:51 (http://svn.clozure.com/publicsvn/openmcl/release/1.9/source/) 16:33:30 gbyers has been working on it. I think he's almost done, so I'd expect it to be a matter of days. 17:27:10 pnpuff [~pnpuff@gateway/tor-sasl/pnpuff] has joined #ccl 17:50:56 -!- pnpuff [~pnpuff@gateway/tor-sasl/pnpuff] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:56:35 pnpuff [~dioxirane@gateway/tor-sasl/pnpuff] has joined #ccl 18:21:25 Fare [~fare@146.94.106.109.dynamic.sat.abo.nordnet.fr] has joined #ccl 18:35:32 rme: ok. thanks. 18:37:17 faheem: To explain further, we usually first produce a "release candidate", and ask users to try it out for a couple of weeks. After we fix problems found during that time, we do the "official" release. 18:39:22 rme: will I have time to issue an asdf 2.29 during that time frame? Looks like I need to improve compatibility somewhat more. 18:40:05 although upgrade compatibility is less important for the asdf delivered with the implementation itself. 18:41:06 rme: ok, so, where are you in this cycle? has the release candidate been released yet? 18:41:41 rme: in other words, please predict the future. (And stop trying to get other work done!) 18:42:07 Should we even be bundling ASDF? We have been including it because we hope that it makes life easier on users, but is that still the case? 18:42:07 rme: the reason i ask is that we're planning to get ccl in to debian, so it sounds like we should probably wait on the 1.9 release. 18:42:24 Oh. 18:42:26 faheem: no rc yet. watch openmcl-devel for the announcement. 18:42:35 rme: ok 18:44:33 rme: interesting users do not like an easy life. :( 18:46:00 rme: if asdf is not bundled, would this not raise compatability issues? 18:46:02 Fare: I'd prefer not to change the included asdf after the release candidate goes out. 18:46:26 faheem: I'm just being a little bit cranky. I'm not seriously proposing to leave it out right now. 18:46:48 rme: ok 18:51:08 rme: no problem, you won't need to 18:59:40 faheem: debian market is large.. that is true. maybe the debian user is the only for which a .deb is explicitly required ;) 19:06:20 pnpuff : hmm? 19:07:16 "towards massification and.. beyond" 19:07:30 rme: if we are packaging 1.9 prerelease, should be be using http://svn.clozure.com/publicsvn/openmcl/release/1.9/source? This will eventually become the 1.9 release, right? 19:07:38 pnpuff: massification? debian? 19:08:09 "should be be" -> "should we be" 19:08:14 faheem: that is correct 19:08:29 rme: great. will do, thanks. 19:18:10 faheem: I do not understand the reason for which a "package" is required. is the averege debian user unable to build from sources and manage dependencies? I do not think so. 19:19:15 maybe to economize time.. I do not know. 19:19:39 pnpuff, building from source is a pain, even on debian 19:20:20 is even a pain to spend so many words on #lisp? 19:20:22 :) 19:24:43 pnpuff: you should ask that question on a debian channel. :-) 19:25:16 a fedora, gentoo, and any other free *nix channel will probably also work... 19:26:40 but you're speaking of deby here. 19:26:54 pnpuff: deby? 19:28:38 yes, the uby-like distro. 19:29:17 ops.. really is uby deby-like.. 19:42:26 need ... sleep ... will try to finish release after nap time. 19:51:55 faheem: sorry for the digression ... anyway my was a sincere curiosity that still remains. even after the nap time. 20:02:09 svs_ [~svs@209.140.97.25] has joined #ccl 20:23:35 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [*.net *.split] 20:23:39 -!- svs_ [~svs@209.140.97.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:30:31 ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #ccl 20:30:31 -!- zelazny.freenode.net has set mode +o ChanServ 20:36:22 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [*.net *.split] 20:37:53 ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #ccl 20:37:53 -!- zelazny.freenode.net has set mode +o ChanServ 20:38:32 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [*.net *.split] 20:39:43 ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #ccl 20:39:43 -!- zelazny.freenode.net has set mode +o ChanServ 20:41:24 -!- pnpuff [~dioxirane@gateway/tor-sasl/pnpuff] has left #ccl 20:41:39 segv-_ [~mb@dslb-088-075-150-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ccl 20:41:39 -!- segv- [~mb@dslb-088-075-150-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:41:40 -!- segv-_ is now known as segv- 20:47:54 svs_ [~svs@209.140.97.25] has joined #ccl 21:15:23 -!- alms_ [alms@clozure-FDAAE900.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: alms_] 21:15:27 alms__ [~alms_@173-162-137-153-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #ccl 21:15:27 -!- alms__ [~alms_@173-162-137-153-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:18:44 -!- alms_ [~alms_@173-162-137-153-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:42:41 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [*.net *.split] 21:45:22 alms_ [~alms_@209-6-130-32.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 21:46:29 ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #ccl 21:46:29 -!- zelazny.freenode.net has set mode +o ChanServ 22:42:49 -!- svs_ [~svs@209.140.97.25] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]