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20:45:34 You have to use retain/release. 20:45:50 -!- rme_ is now known as rme 20:46:02 :-( 20:46:41 The problem being of course that it means we either can't use GC on those lisp objects, or have to use finalizers 20:47:19 Objective C garbage collection is deprecated starting in Mac OS X 10.8. 20:47:33 rme: Apple's really going on a bad slope 20:50:59 pjb: switch to qt/gtk 20:53:45 I'd expect it to be worse. 20:53:54 Do they use garbage collectors? 21:09:03 -!- alms_ [~alms_@173-162-137-153-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: alms_] 21:09:14 alms_ [~alms_@173-162-137-153-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #ccl 21:09:24 -!- alms_ [~alms_@173-162-137-153-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:23:37 -!- milanj [~milanj_@79-101-196-85.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:26:48 -!- DataLinkDroid [~David@1.140.248.170] has quit [*.net *.split] 21:36:46 -!- mdc_mobile [~mdc_mobil@indigo.entity.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:22:40 dnm [~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com] has joined #ccl 22:23:04 -!- dnm is now known as Guest76193 22:29:36 -!- dnm_ [~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:28:44 DataLinkDroid [~David@1.140.249.79] has joined #ccl