01:34:01 -!- alms_ [~alms_@209-6-130-32.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms_] 01:35:45 pirateking-_- [~piratekin@c-107-3-142-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 01:47:26 rme [~rme@50.43.187.220] has joined #ccl 02:56:53 -!- rme [~rme@50.43.187.220] has quit [Quit: rme] 05:47:44 rme [~rme@50.43.187.220] has joined #ccl 06:12:27 -!- rme [rme@591A099.BE4DF583.699BA7A6.IP] has quit [Quit: rme] 06:12:27 -!- rme [~rme@50.43.187.220] has quit [Quit: rme] 07:09:12 kmcorbett [~kmcorbett@173-9-35-41-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #ccl 07:23:03 kmcorbett_ [~kmcorbett@173-9-35-41-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #ccl 07:23:19 -!- kmcorbett [~kmcorbett@173-9-35-41-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:23:20 -!- kmcorbett_ is now known as kmcorbett 07:37:15 -!- kmcorbett [~kmcorbett@173-9-35-41-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:38:03 kmcorbett [~kmcorbett@173-9-35-41-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #ccl 07:40:25 -!- kmcorbett [~kmcorbett@173-9-35-41-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:15:40 kmcorbett [~kmcorbett@173-9-35-41-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #ccl 08:18:16 -!- kmcorbett [~kmcorbett@173-9-35-41-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:42:09 -!- pirateking-_- [~piratekin@c-107-3-142-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: pirateking-_-] 09:21:38 pirateking-_- [~piratekin@c-67-169-182-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 20:30:51 ccl-logbot [~ccl-logbo@setf.clozure.com] has joined #ccl 20:30:51 20:30:51 -!- names: ccl-logbot rme peccu1 pirateking-_- billstclair emit gbyers pjb gz- ivan`` dsp_ mdc gz fe[nl]ix kanru dnm Fade jasom |3b| @ChanServ 20:56:51 sellout [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 21:38:39 -!- rme [rme@591A099.BE4DF583.699BA7A6.IP] has quit [Quit: rme] 21:38:39 -!- rme [~rme@50.43.187.220] has quit [Quit: rme] 22:55:41 rme [~rme@50.43.187.220] has joined #ccl 23:29:58 Something strange. ccl-1.8 on Mac OS X 10.5.3 cannot compile cocoa applications because it says Error: the Objective-C bridge needs at least Mac OS X 10.6; but I can run on that system cocoa applications compiled with ccl-1.8 on Mac OS X 10.7.3! 23:29:58 23:30:18 What would the cocoa bridge need at compilation time that it doesn't need at run-time? 23:32:36 err, s/10.5.3/10.5.8/ actually, but same principle. 23:35:12 http://trac.clozure.com/ccl/wiki/ReleaseNotes/1.7 23:52:22 As I said, I'm running a cocoa IDE compiled on Mac OS X 10.7.3 with ccl 1.7-r14925M on a Mac OS X 10.5.8 system. 23:52:51 That is, I'm running on a Mac OS X 10.5.8 system, a cocoa IDE compiled on Mac OS X 10.7.3 with ccl 1.7-r14925M. 23:53:21 Perhaps they made a back upgrade on 10.5.8 of the 10.6 headers? 23:53:26 and libraries. 23:58:24 As I said, the Cocoa/ObjC stuff hasn't been supported on 10.5 by the last few CCL releases. If we did a better job of enforcing that at runtime, we wouldn't be having this conversation now, which certainly makes me wish we'd done so,