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16:54:40 <clop> are there good reasons to think mixup-hash-code is good and does a good job of distributing things?  (i don't know much about hashing)
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20:01:08 <billstclair> clop: no idea. I use /dev/urandom or /dev/random for randomness
20:01:25 <billstclair> There's an equivalent on windows, but I've forgotten it
20:04:41 <billstclair> https://github.com/billstclair/cl-crypto/tree/master/source
20:04:46 <billstclair> ffi.lisp and random.lisp
20:04:55 <billstclair> They know how to do it in windows
20:05:11 <billstclair> thought I'd figured that out once
20:06:48 <rme> billstclair: ccl uses the Windows way in an obscure fashion.  see ccl::random-mrg31k3p-state.  you can just M-. on make-random-state, and it's right above it in l1-numbers.lisp.
20:07:13 <billstclair> k
20:07:28 <billstclair> Does CCL use /dev/urandom on unix?
20:07:34 <rme> yes
20:07:38 <billstclair> cool
20:08:04 <rme> When making a random random-state, that is.
20:08:28 <billstclair> Right. After that it's all psedo-random. No more entropy added
20:08:38 <billstclair> pseudo-random
20:08:48 <billstclair> As per the CL spec
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