00:02:21 Hmm. got clsql to work. ccl rocks! 00:19:58 everything's great, except for the crash http://paste.lisp.org/display/117447#1 00:44:13 oconnore [~eric@ip68-225-113-244.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ccl 01:42:50 -!- oconnore [~eric@ip68-225-113-244.mc.at.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:59:18 oconnore [~eric@ip68-225-113-244.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ccl 02:00:07 -!- oconnore [~eric@ip68-225-113-244.mc.at.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:13:54 -!- bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:10:57 Congratulations for CCL 1.6 ! 03:11:20 *rme* waits for the bug reports to pour in. 03:11:40 it sucks! it doesn't work for me! 03:11:46 :) 03:11:58 I want my money back! 04:14:41 oconnore [~eric@ip68-225-113-244.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ccl 04:51:45 -!- oconnore [~eric@ip68-225-113-244.mc.at.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:47 -!- sellout [~greg@c-24-61-13-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: sellout] 07:40:29 -!- Fare [~Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:52:13 DanLentz [~danlentz@c-68-32-54-29.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 08:03:33 -!- DanLentz [~danlentz@c-68-32-54-29.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 08:09:41 e-user [~akahl@nat/nokia/x-aakywngfuenifsfe] has joined #ccl 08:20:42 DanLentz [~danlentz@c-68-32-54-29.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 08:32:04 -!- DanLentz [~danlentz@c-68-32-54-29.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 11:00:40 -!- leo2007 [~leo@cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:12:21 leo2007 [~leo@cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #ccl 11:57:31 sellout [~greg@c-24-61-13-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 12:59:58 ivan4th [~ivan4th@smtp.igrade.ru] has joined #ccl 13:01:03 hi. I've posted results of my research of ARM FFI problems: http://trac.clozure.com/ccl/ticket/788 I didn't manage to fix everything this time (though some things were fixed), but I honestly tried 13:03:20 tfb [~tfb@92.40.106.58.sub.mbb.three.co.uk] has joined #ccl 14:03:11 bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ccl 14:49:02 JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-72-228-177-92.buffalo.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 15:48:17 -!- tfb [~tfb@92.40.106.58.sub.mbb.three.co.uk] has quit [Quit: sleeping] 15:55:52 thanks for all your help yesterday rme, i've solved all the problems i was hitting... my fault in each case, as per usual :) 16:06:49 ivan4th: thanks, will look at it soon. 16:20:27 anRch [~markmilli@64.134.96.143] has joined #ccl 16:31:38 chandler [~bem@opendarwin/developer/chandler] has joined #ccl 16:32:00 Congrats on the release of 1.6. 16:32:46 As expected, it won't run on my Palm Pixi Plus (SIGILL). Hopefully I'll pick up something with a new enough ARM core that runs a decent enough version of Linux in the near future. 16:34:31 Do you know offhand what architecture version the Palm Pixi uses ? 16:37:36 gbyers: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7627&c=qualcomm_msm7627 16:37:37 16:39:02 gbyers: It's a ARM1137EJ-S, which looks like it's an ARMv6 plain. 16:39:35 Oh, /proc/cpuinfo says "CPU architecture: 6TEJ" 16:39:56 Features: swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp java 16:40:52 Maybe this is the incentive I need to pick up a Pre 2. :-) 16:42:06 Any thoughts on Android? Cortex-A8 based Android devices are startlingly cheap these days. 16:44:42 Also, are you aware of the Pandaboard? It looks like an excellent platform for CCL on ARM. http://pandaboard.org/ 16:45:16 I have a Pandaboard on order; it should arrive next week. 16:45:49 Cool. I missed it when it was first announced and by the time I found out about it, they were already quoting January. 16:46:50 There are (at least) two ways to do things on Android: as a native app, or as a shared library with a little Java app to load it. The latter's harder, but might be better in the long run. 16:48:30 I'm currently trying to use CCL on N900... Will also try it out on debian or ubuntu on a BlueShark (Russian remake of BeagleBoard) 16:49:53 ivan4th: do you cross-compile the kernel ? compile it natively on N900 ? Or not compile the kernel ? 16:52:31 gbyers: I compile it natively on N900 using sdk chroot environment. Had to change -mfpu=vfpv2 to -mfpu=vfp in lisp-kernel/linuxarm/Makefile though 16:52:45 (gcc 4.2.1) 16:55:39 IIRC, vfpv2 offers more double-precision FPRs. I doubt if we really need that in the kernel, and don't remember if there's any other reason for wanting v2. 17:22:23 switching it to plain vfp may indeed help as it's hard to use newer gcc on the device and cross-compilation doesn't seem to be trivial thing to do... And Maemo Fremantle may not be the only ARM Linux OS with old gcc. 17:25:40 -!- sellout [~greg@c-24-61-13-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:33:24 -!- anRch [~markmilli@64.134.96.143] has quit [Quit: anRch] 17:48:34 -!- e-user [~akahl@nat/nokia/x-aakywngfuenifsfe] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:29:42 Modius_ [~Modius@cpe-70-123-158-125.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 18:31:17 -!- Modius [~Modius@cpe-70-123-158-125.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:37:07 m7d [~lriley@pool-71-102-212-31.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 18:51:25 setting up ccl 1.6 and having a bit of trouble with helping ccl find asdf 18:51:40 i have quicklisp installed, but without asdf it, of course, won't work 18:52:01 I thought that quicklisp came with its own asdf. 18:52:12 i have a (require 'asdf) in my .ccl-init.lisp which doesn't blow up 18:52:49 rme: hmm, that would be great, executing (ql:quickload "vecto") for instance complains that find-system is not available 18:53:32 i had 1.5 working fine 18:53:47 When you run (rebuild-ccl :full t), be sure to start up ccl with the -n option. If you load the current asdf in your init file, weird things will happen. 18:54:21 rme: ok, i'll try that, thanks 18:56:57 rme: that worked, thanks a bunch 18:57:03 no problem 19:00:34 looks like quicklisp and clozure are clashing on a redefinition of delete-directory - which i saw as being newly exported by clozure in 1.6 19:01:29 you see it with (ql:quickload "hunchentoot") for instance; choosing to :GO seems to resolve the conflict and install hunchentoot 19:01:52 That's a bug in cl-fad. You can type ":go" to continue and it should work. Or, you can update to the latest quicklisp, which has a newer cl-fad. 19:02:52 rme: yeah it worked to :GO, i have the latest quicklisp though i think, i used the new (load "http://beta.quicklisp.org/quicklisp.lisp") http client stuff to get it 19:03:34 -!- Modius_ [~Modius@cpe-70-123-158-125.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: "Object-oriented design" is an oxymoron] 19:03:46 You might try (ql:update-all-dists) then. 19:04:01 rme: good idea, still getting used to quicklisp 19:05:34 rme: yeah, that did it, thanks 20:08:35 sellout [~greg@c-24-61-13-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 20:09:48 anRch [~markmilli@64.134.243.240] has joined #ccl 20:12:22 -!- bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:21:30 -!- leo2007 [~leo@cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:24:31 milanj [~milanj_@93-87-168-129.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #ccl 20:32:57 gbyers: thanks for the fix! Now there's just 9 unexpected failures of cffi tests on Maemo. 20:38:08 something with long long, some problems with callbacks and this defcfun.bff thing that uses a function with large number of arguments of different types 20:52:18 long long memory references, or calls/callbacks ? 21:01:05 seems like both IIRC... I've already closed down everything, sorry, will look a bit closer tomorrow 21:02:33 Thanks. 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