00:47:13 -!- gigamonkey [~user@c-98-248-194-46.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:36:31 bfulgham_ [~brent@adsl-69-234-103-230.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ccl 02:38:36 -!- bfulgham_ [~brent@adsl-69-234-103-230.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:54:16 Modius [~Modius@cpe-24-28-30-165.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 02:58:07 gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-24-217-149.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ccl 04:50:58 -!- rme [rme@clozure-12127D16.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: rme] 04:50:58 -!- rme [~rme@pool-70-105-87-127.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: rme] 07:02:35 jdz [~jdz@193.206.22.97] has joined #ccl 07:08:22 -!- gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-24-217-149.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:12:59 gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-24-217-149.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ccl 07:32:43 -!- gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-24-217-149.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:47:24 Modius_ [~Modius@cpe-24-28-30-165.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 09:51:02 -!- Modius [~Modius@cpe-24-28-30-165.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:06:52 tfb [~tfb@92.41.98.201.sub.mbb.three.co.uk] has joined #ccl 12:14:02 -!- sellout [~greg@c-24-61-13-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: sellout] 12:18:25 yakov [~yzaytsev@183.49.62.92.nienschanz.ru] has joined #ccl 12:18:26 hey 12:31:58 rme [~rme@pool-70-105-87-127.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 12:36:44 -!- tfb [~tfb@92.41.98.201.sub.mbb.three.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08:30 sellout [~greg@64.134.67.12] has joined #ccl 13:15:25 is there a way to find out declartions currently in effect (in the global environment)? 13:15:40 SBCL has sb-ext:describe-compiler-policy 13:15:54 i'm interested in optimization declarations in particular 13:16:04 and not a programmatic interface, but just for my information 13:21:16 so far i have found *nx-{debug/speed/safety}* variables in ccl package 13:21:40 and *nx-cspeed* 13:44:21 gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-24-217-149.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ccl 13:55:04 jdz: try (ccl:declaration-information 'optimize) 13:58:00 rme: that's exactly what i was looking for, thanks! 14:18:47 milanj [~milanj_@93-86-186-230.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #ccl 14:41:16 -!- sellout [~greg@64.134.67.12] has quit [Quit: sellout] 14:54:06 sellout [~greg@c-24-61-13-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 15:57:36 -!- jdz [~jdz@193.206.22.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:17:07 -!- gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-24-217-149.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:23:10 gz_ [~gz@209-6-40-245.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 16:23:29 -!- gz` [gz@clozure-93943513.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout] 16:24:35 -!- gz [Clozure@clozure-93943513.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout] 16:25:11 -!- gz` [~gz@209-6-40-245.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:26:04 -!- gz [~gz@209-6-40-245.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:26:04 -!- gz_ is now known as gz 16:52:48 -!- yakov [~yzaytsev@183.49.62.92.nienschanz.ru] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:03:12 Fare [~Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #ccl 17:03:50 Hum. Does anyone know what this :default-name-function used to do? 17:08:14 We totally ignore it. I can't imagine that changing callers not to pass it could possibly hurt anything. 17:10:04 ok. 17:13:51 gigamonkey [~user@c-98-248-194-46.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 17:29:06 looks like it works. 18:20:43 gz` [~gz@209-6-40-245.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 18:25:17 How do I force home: to point to some la-la land? 18:26:04 otherwise, all my source location information is wrong. 18:26:23 or - can I somehow get the source location to be relative to some qrsroot: instead of home: ? 18:30:51 -!- milanj [~milanj_@93-86-186-230.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:31:20 What about setting the logical-pathname-translations for "home" to go to the right place? 18:32:16 sure. 18:32:38 How do I make it so qrsroot: is used, too? 18:32:44 instead of home? 18:33:01 that might help debugging in production or semi-production environments. 18:35:25 Source locations are heurestically "back translated" into a logical pathname before being saved. It sounds like yours got saved as home: when you wanted them saved as qrsroot:. 18:35:33 milanj [~milanj_@178-223-156-118.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #ccl 18:35:47 There's a function called back-translate-pathname...what gz said. 18:36:05 Perhaps back translation should only use home: or ccl: as last resort when no other logical pathname will do. 18:36:48 *Fare* tries (replace-base-translation "qrsroot:" *qrsroot*) and hopes for the best 18:42:30 how do I plainly delete a logical pathname? 18:43:02 gz: there didn't use to be a qrsroot: but now I want to make one 18:43:30 and since home: is buggy and/or irrelevant for qres, I'd like to delete the home: mapping while compiling. 19:08:28 What aspects of ccl are implemented in C? 19:08:45 i was hoping to try and integrate openmp into a lisp implementaion 19:17:41 so somehow, I divert home: to a different location, and it shows in ccl::%logical-host-translations% but still it will back-translate pathnames to use home: as / 19:17:59 wth? 19:22:31 PuffTheMagic: the gc, low-level OS exception handling, some thread support 19:22:32 ok, so when I manually try to (ccl::back-translate-pathname "/ita/x2/qres/lisp/foo.lisp") it correctly says #P"qrsroot:lisp;foo.lisp" but when I describe a function, it says "home:ita;x2;qres;lisp;foo.lisp.newest" 19:22:37 I'm confused 19:22:58 back-translation happens at compile time. 19:24:50 if you can't recompile, the only thing you can do is redefine home: 19:25:44 no, this is from a fresh recompile 19:25:54 where I do redefine home 19:27:49 (setf (logical-pathname-translations "home") ...) 19:31:06 I did that before the compilation 19:32:20 (logical-pathname-translations "home") 19:32:21 ((#P"home:**;*.*" #P"/ita/x2/qres/lisp/cache/**/*.*")) 19:32:33 (Can I simply delete the translations?) 19:33:10 is there some cache somewhere that is not invalidated when I setf the lpt ? 19:34:10 Ok, the way it works is this: when you compile, the compiler takes the actual source file pathname and tries to translate it into something more relocatable. That's back-translate-pathname. It uses the set of logical pathname translations at compile time to do this. Then this translated pathname gets saved, and at load time, the dev. env. will use it based on whatever set of logical pathname translations are in effect then. 19:36:48 is there some local rebinding / shadowing of %logical-host-translations% that prevents the compiler from seeing my modifications? 19:38:10 I'm pretty sure there isn't. But the back translation is heuristic, so maybe it's picking the "wrong" host. 19:38:55 I can't understand how it's picking home at all. 19:40:49 *Fare* can't plainly delete the home: mapping because ccl relies on it existing. 19:41:09 *Fare* can't have an empty mapping either, for the same reason 19:41:31 *Fare* tries diverting the mapping to a cache directory, but it doesn't work 19:43:17 If you point it somewhere where the source file is not, then it won't get picked. 19:45:43 *Fare* failed to clean the fasls after his latest fix. DOH. 19:47:02 *Fare* unbangs head from against the wall. 19:47:32 so whatever I was doing, the source location kept being as wrong as before. Now it's working. Thanks. 19:53:48 all working. 19:53:53 cool 19:54:56 -!- Modius_ [~Modius@cpe-24-28-30-165.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: I'm big in Japan] 19:55:18 Modius [~Modius@cpe-24-28-30-165.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 22:06:37 fe[nl]ix [~lacedaemo@pdpc/supporter/professional/fenlix] has joined #ccl 22:06:50 -!- fe[nl]ix [~lacedaemo@pdpc/supporter/professional/fenlix] has left #ccl 22:11:26 -!- milanj [~milanj_@178-223-156-118.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:52:31 kingless [~kingless@adsl-242-215-95.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ccl 22:54:17 -!- kingless [~kingless@adsl-242-215-95.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:35 -!- gigamonkey [~user@c-98-248-194-46.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:47:24 -!- PuffTheMagic [~PuffTheMa@unaffiliated/puffthemagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]