00:56:36 Phoodus [foo@174-17-116-185.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ccl 01:01:58 bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ccl 01:35:40 vmmenon [~vmmenon@c-67-183-8-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 01:35:55 hi 01:36:09 facing a problem getting cl-opengl working with ccl 01:36:11 need some help 01:36:52 the system just crashes when i do (asdf:load-system :cl-opengl) ... 01:37:17 it seems to crash when its loading trivial-features .. thats what the console output indicates 01:37:44 though trivial-features does work for me when i use the closure-html package 01:37:46 any help 01:37:48 ? 01:40:09 Can you paste a backtrace to paste.lisp.org? 01:40:27 sure 01:41:19 If you're on Mac OS X, there might be problems with OpenGL needing to run on the initial thread; see ccl:examples;opengl-ffi.lisp for a hacky workaround. 01:42:44 yes im on osx 01:44:20 the trace is here http://paste.lisp.org/+2ERQ 01:46:21 how do i get to that link ? 01:46:29 the workaround u mentioned 01:47:44 That means /path/to/your/ccl/examples/opengl-ffi.lisp. 01:48:31 I see that you're using Slime too; if you look in the *inferior lisp* buffer, I would guess you'll see that you're in the lisp kernel debugger. 01:49:03 no, it just exits and doesnt get me into the debugger 01:50:38 let me run it in a console, and see if get any more messages 01:53:55 have pasted the console o/p here http://paste.lisp.org/+2ERR 02:09:05 That Trace/BPT trap is a symptom of trying to do something (load certain shared libraries, other things) from a thread that is not the initial thread. 02:10:09 It'd be nice if there was a special variable *make-gui-stuff-work-on-multiple-threads* that we could just set to T, but there's no easy solution. 02:13:09 hmm, so in effect cant use cl-opengl in ccl ? 02:14:51 seems like the same problem exists for lispbuilder .. http://code.google.com/p/lispbuilder/wiki/DownloadInstallationIntro 02:14:52 -!- Arelius [~user@208.80.117.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:17:32 You could try the Cocoa-based IDE and the native FFI. http://trac.clozure.com/ccl/wiki/SimpleOpenGL is a simple example. 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