01:02:08 *nurv* good night. 01:02:35 -!- nurv [nurv@83.231.23.128] has quit [] 01:09:41 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:10:47 billstclair [~billstcla@dsl-65-219-212-221.taconic.net] has joined #ccl 01:10:47 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@dsl-65-219-212-221.taconic.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:10:47 billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl 01:18:39 -!- FareWell [~Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:19:09 FareTower [~Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #ccl 02:22:49 -!- palter [~palter@2002:4b44:b1e1:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has quit [Quit: palter] 02:35:17 hypercube31 [~hypercube@253.240.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 03:01:58 rme_ [~rme@pool-70-106-128-93.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 03:02:34 -!- rme [~rme@pool-70-105-94-51.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:02:34 -!- rme_ is now known as rme 03:03:08 -!- rme [rme@clozure-8BCA4BE1.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout] 03:35:31 -!- rme [rme@clozure-780074C7.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: rme] 03:35:31 -!- rme [~rme@pool-70-106-128-93.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: rme] 05:33:11 gmlk [~gmlk@2001:888:10f4:0:217:f2ff:fe52:35d8] has joined #ccl 09:23:49 -!- hypercube31 [~hypercube@253.240.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:58:32 nurv [nurv@83.231.89.156] has joined #ccl 09:58:40 Morning. 10:06:33 tfb [~tfb@212.183.140.34] has joined #ccl 11:58:29 -!- alms [alms@clozure-AD075F06.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms] 12:02:44 -!- alms [~alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:33:17 -!- tfb [~tfb@212.183.140.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:39:58 tfb [~tfb@212.183.140.34] has joined #ccl 12:41:02 leo2007 [~leo@cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ccl 12:41:27 I am fighting for space in a remote machine. 12:42:42 The ccl repo is 303M is it possible to trim it down? My quota is only 500M. sbcl on the other hand is only 57M 12:44:44 leo2007: You don't need the whole repo. That contains binaries for every platform, etc. If you check out http://svn.clozure.com/publicsvn/openmcl/release/1.5/darwinx86/ccl, it uses externals to get all the bits you need. You can also replace release/1.5 with trunk if you want bleeding edge. 12:45:28 leo2007: (Oh, and that URL is for intel OS X, it'd be slightly different if you're on linux, windows, or PPC) 12:45:54 in any platforms it includes both x86 and x86-64 12:46:11 i think it will be difficult to cut down. but I'm not sure. 12:47:24 leo2007: Oh, yeah, somehow I figured you checked out all of the trunk, but I realize now that that's pretty unlikely. 12:48:42 leo2007: You can definitely just delete the arch that you're not using  that should cut at least like 80M. 12:49:00 ok 12:49:09 (svn rm, so that an svn up doesn't restore them) 12:49:39 sellout: so i've to hand pick what I want to delete, right? 12:50:20 leo2007: Yeah. Assuming you're on a 64-bit box, delete darwin-x86-headers, dx86cl, and dx86cl.image. 12:51:04 There may be other bits you can toss, but gb or rme would be the guys to tell you. 12:51:22 ok, let me ask on the mailing list. 12:54:36 sellout: the remote machine is linux 86-64, does that change things? 12:56:00 leo2007: Oh, yeah  dx86cl* should be lx86cl* and darwin-x86-headers should be -headers 12:56:15 ok 12:56:20 Sorry 12:56:27 -!- sellout [~greg@c-24-128-48-180.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: sellout] 13:26:46 sellout [~greg@2002:4855:eb9a:0:21d:4fff:fefe:c504] has joined #ccl 13:30:42 -!- nurv [nurv@83.231.89.156] has quit [] 13:54:09 gz [~gz@209-6-40-245.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 13:55:07 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:56:09 billstclair [~billstcla@gw3.tacwap.org] has joined #ccl 13:56:09 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@gw3.tacwap.org] has quit [Changing host] 13:56:09 billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl 14:02:21 palter [~palter@2002:4855:eb9a:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has joined #ccl 14:23:32 alms [~alms@2002:4855:eb9a:0:219:e3ff:feda:a4c0] has joined #ccl 15:11:39 nurv [nurv@62.32.131.141] has joined #ccl 15:11:52 Hi. 15:21:57 anRch [~markmilli@64.134.69.171] has joined #ccl 15:29:32 tfb_ [~tfb@212.183.140.16] has joined #ccl 15:31:29 -!- tfb [~tfb@212.183.140.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:56:38 rme [~rme@pool-70-105-114-192.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 16:17:54 -!- anRch [~markmilli@64.134.69.171] has quit [Quit: anRch] 17:02:26 -!- tfb_ [~tfb@212.183.140.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:30:32 anRch [~markmilli@64.134.71.109] has joined #ccl 17:53:19 -!- gmlk [~gmlk@2001:888:10f4:0:217:f2ff:fe52:35d8] has quit [Quit: gmlk] 17:56:08 -!- nurv [nurv@62.32.131.141] has quit [] 18:12:51 -!- Phoodus [foo@174-22-192-234.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:37:06 -!- anRch [~markmilli@64.134.71.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:45:00 anRch [~markmilli@63.112.62.27] has joined #ccl 18:49:35 nurv [nurv@62.32.129.138] has joined #ccl 20:11:13 -!- lisppaste5 [~lisppaste@common-lisp.net] has quit [Quit: Want lisppaste5 in your channel? Email lisppaste-requests AT common-lisp.net.] 20:11:16 lisppaste5 [~lisppaste@common-lisp.net] has joined #ccl 20:41:30 -!- anRch [~markmilli@63.112.62.27] has quit [Quit: anRch] 20:48:00 -!- alms [~alms@2002:4855:eb9a:0:219:e3ff:feda:a4c0] has quit [Quit: alms] 20:52:41 hello 20:54:39 leo2007: By the way, regarding reducing ccl disk space usage, note that subversion keeps a duplicate of all the files in the working copy in .svn directories. If you delete those, you'll reduce space requirements by 50%, but you won't be able to svn up any more from that copy. 20:58:27 rme: that's excellent. 20:59:23 I am trying to fix a crash which is likely caused by the library I'm using. 21:00:04 .svn is about 40M 21:01:04 quotas suck :( 21:02:32 -!- palter [palter@clozure-CDE684CB.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: palter] 21:02:33 -!- palter [~palter@2002:4855:eb9a:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has quit [Quit: palter] 21:03:22 palter [~palter@2002:4855:eb9a:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has joined #ccl 21:03:57 There are .svn directories scattered all over the place, not just in the top-level directory. But the one in the top-level directory will probably be the largest. 21:04:24 i see. 21:04:45 clop: i know but that's the reality here. but the machine is reasonable fast though. 21:05:26 cd ccl; find . -name .svn 21:05:48 -!- sellout [~greg@2002:4855:eb9a:0:21d:4fff:fefe:c504] has quit [Quit: sellout] 21:07:20 I had a 1 MB quota for my home directory at one point in grad school, but that was ludicrously small, even for the time. (You were supposed to use your home directory just for dot files.) 21:07:26 perhaps 'svn export' instead of checkout skips those by default? 21:07:39 daang 21:08:28 As you can imagine, I rarely used the school computers. My NeXT box at home was more congenial. 21:09:52 *rme* tells the kids to get off his lawn. 21:11:05 my program has got to the point where my laptop may burn if I keep running it ;) 21:11:23 Hot enough to fry an egg on. 21:11:36 80degree 21:11:48 Great, it might get used as a benchmark. 21:13:40 I find cl-plplot can crash lisp easily. 21:17:55 SBCL crashes consistently if you write a scheme inefficient interpreter (for example the one in PAIP) and try to run (fib 30) in it. (at least on Win32) 21:22:31 sellout [~greg@c-24-128-48-180.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 21:30:51 leo2007 pasted "crash" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/98883 21:31:00 any cure for a crash like this? 21:32:23 -!- palter [~palter@2002:4855:eb9a:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has quit [Quit: palter] 21:33:28 Without knowing what cl-plplot is and what it's doing, or seeing a backtrace: no, there's no cure. 21:35:25 bt or bt full says no stack 21:38:14 anyway I can obtain more info? 21:38:49 cl-plplot pops up a plot window under X, if I close it by clicking the close button, this crash happens. 21:50:29 anRch [~markmilli@64.134.243.163] has joined #ccl 21:59:31 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:33 billstclair [~billstcla@dsl-65-219-212-221.taconic.net] has joined #ccl 22:00:33 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@dsl-65-219-212-221.taconic.net] has quit [Changing host] 22:00:33 billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl 22:39:41 alms [~alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 22:44:43 -!- anRch [~markmilli@64.134.243.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:17:48 palter [~palter@2002:4b44:b1e1:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has joined #ccl