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IIRC, it's based on some combination of env var settings, and it's different on different Windows releases. 02:06:04 palter [~palter@2002:4b44:b1e1:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has joined #ccl 02:09:02 -!- palter [~palter@2002:4b44:b1e1:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:27 palter [~palter@c-75-68-177-225.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 03:02:10 -!- palter [palter@clozure-78A0C567.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: palter] 03:02:10 -!- palter [~palter@c-75-68-177-225.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: palter] 03:02:28 palter [~palter@2002:4b44:b1e1:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has joined #ccl 03:02:31 -!- palter [palter@clozure-78A0C567.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: palter] 03:02:31 -!- palter [~palter@2002:4b44:b1e1:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has quit [Client Quit] 03:03:04 palter [~palter@2002:4b44:b1e1:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has joined #ccl 03:03:47 -!- palter [~palter@2002:4b44:b1e1:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has quit [Client Quit] 04:37:41 -!- alms [alms@clozure-AD075F06.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms] 04:37:41 -!- alms [~alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms] 04:41:47 -!- nunb [~nundan@59.178.219.120] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:42:05 -!- rme [rme@clozure-621E22E.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: rme] 04:42:05 -!- rme [~rme@pool-70-106-142-32.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: rme] 04:42:31 nunb [~nundan@59.178.73.211] has joined #ccl 08:19:43 tfb [~tfb@212.183.140.18] has joined #ccl 08:49:45 -!- tfb [~tfb@212.183.140.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:22:58 tfb [~tfb@212.183.140.4] has joined #ccl 09:57:37 nurv [nurv@83.231.63.237] has joined #ccl 09:57:48 Morning. 09:58:54 It certainly is. 10:02:10 Correct. 10:24:11 -!- nunb [~nundan@59.178.73.211] has quit [*.net *.split] 10:24:31 nunb [~nundan@59.178.73.211] has joined #ccl 10:43:00 -!- nunb [~nundan@59.178.73.211] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:43:26 nunb [~nundan@59.178.199.245] has joined #ccl 11:01:30 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12:51 alms [~alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 11:17:52 billstclair [~billstcla@dsl-65-219-212-221.taconic.net] has joined #ccl 11:17:52 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@dsl-65-219-212-221.taconic.net] has quit [Changing host] 11:17:52 billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl 12:01:39 -!- alms [alms@clozure-AD075F06.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms] 12:01:39 -!- alms [~alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms] 12:10:09 palter [~palter@2002:4b44:b1e1:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has joined #ccl 12:11:32 -!- palter [~palter@2002:4b44:b1e1:0:5ab0:35ff:fe78:6749] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:12:03 palter [~palter@c-75-68-177-225.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 12:17:18 alms [~alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 12:31:33 supposing I already have a hash table, is there a way to force it to grow, or would I need to copy its members into a new hash table? 12:33:49 clop: (setf (gethash ...) value) 12:34:47 clop: Or am I misunderstanding the question? 12:34:58 sellout, er, ah, right... i guess what I meant was, is there a way to explicitly tell the hash table i want to resize it 12:35:16 like, maybe I know it needs to have about 1000x the size it currently has 12:35:26 and I would like to just resize it instead of letting it grow on its own 12:36:46 clop: Ah  yeah, at least there's no portable way to do that. 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CVS slime, when i try to edit a function definition through 'slime-edit-function-definition i always get an error about slime-enclosing-form-specs being undefined, am i doing anything wrong or slime is just broken on Clozure? 20:36:54 Lots of people use slime with ccl. 20:37:18 Maybe ask on slime-devel or over on #lisp; sometimes there are Slime hackers there. 20:37:44 yes, you're right, i'll drop by in there and see if someone knows what this is all about 20:37:58 i don't know cl enough to be able to hack slime to get this to work 21:01:34 nurv [nurv@83.231.19.240] has joined #ccl 21:01:43 Hi. 21:08:28 hi nurv 21:09:43 rme: are you clozure people all into emacs/slime too or do you use the IDE or ELI or something else? 21:16:50 It varies. If I'm working on a Linux system, I use emacs and slime. 21:17:53 I see. 21:20:48 Other Clozure people probably do different things. 21:33:10 rme: hi 21:33:35 there are some swank features unsupported by ccl. 21:37:32 leo2007: I believe that the missing features are for stepping (ccl doesn't have a stepper), and for some other swank communication style that isn't used with ccl. 21:37:52 i see. thanks for that info. 21:39:05 do you think the edebug for elisp nice? 21:40:37 I'm not familiar with edebug. 21:47:53 if you use C-u C-M-x to eval it lets you step through the function. 22:00:41 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:23 billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl 22:04:23 Relatively recent summing-up of the matter of STEP in ccl: http://www.clozure.com/pipermail/openmcl-devel/2010-January/010873.html 22:08:55 -!- Phoodus [foo@174-22-192-228.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:42:10 -!- nunb [~nundan@59.178.211.20] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:42:40 nunb [~nundan@59.178.192.82] has joined #ccl 22:43:39 -!- Kickaha [~Adium@bl14-21-69.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #ccl 23:17:18 -!- nurv [nurv@83.231.19.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:22:42 rme: thanks 23:40:04 nurv [nurv@83.231.16.166] has joined #ccl